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December 13, 2022, 09:31:57 PM
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I learned pretty early on in life to make your own decisions so that if things go wrong you don’t seek to blame others. Sometimes involving others is inevitable in life, and personally this is where I tend to run into problems because nobody is as passionate about your ideas as you. Same thing with your decisions. Nobody has as much on the line for your decisions as you do, so take responsibility for them and don’t look to blame others regardless of the situation.

taking responsibility for our own decisions is the best way to go in life
taking the blame before blaiming others, not complaining, so forth and so on.
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December 14, 2022, 10:09:09 AM
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It is not ideal to make an all-in with a one-pot game because its just an all-or-nothing game and we know the possible odds with the game mostly with this kind of game, at the end get the courage and make a risky still decision of the player to make it with this large amount it will really test your friendship if you will make it continue or not well if you decision will become tough because its a battle against friendship vs the money situation and trust is really the big deal.

Well, to do an all-in seems like something very risky, at this point I wouldn't take a risk like that, unless it's at a time when I have so much money that I wouldn't care if I lose or not. , but really betting and leaving the money like this is something that you have to have nerves of steel, I think that this type of thing should be thought about very well, in which case this is something each person has in themselves to make their decision, to my are things that when one is in a period of emotion one must have a lot of restraint, a lot of control and above all that the reason is the one that prevails, in a casino game one can very easily lose control, that is where our willpower and responsibility.


Yolo is something that is common inside casinos. Most of the time, those who are desperate are the ones who practice this thing, thinking that if luck permits them, they will win and recover or win more.

Big difference with OP's hypothetical case. If you do Yolo and a friend change it up, then
the original bet wins. You cannot say what emotions you can have learning that you are
not earning that huge amount of money because of the mistake you didn't commit.
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December 14, 2022, 01:33:30 PM
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It is not ideal to make an all-in with a one-pot game because its just an all-or-nothing game and we know the possible odds with the game mostly with this kind of game, at the end get the courage and make a risky still decision of the player to make it with this large amount it will really test your friendship if you will make it continue or not well if you decision will become tough because its a battle against friendship vs the money situation and trust is really the big deal.

Well, to do an all-in seems like something very risky, at this point I wouldn't take a risk like that, unless it's at a time when I have so much money that I wouldn't care if I lose or not. , but really betting and leaving the money like this is something that you have to have nerves of steel, I think that this type of thing should be thought about very well, in which case this is something each person has in themselves to make their decision, to my are things that when one is in a period of emotion one must have a lot of restraint, a lot of control and above all that the reason is the one that prevails, in a casino game one can very easily lose control, that is where our willpower and responsibility.


Yolo is something that is common inside casinos. Most of the time, those who are desperate are the ones who practice this thing, thinking that if luck permits them, they will win and recover or win more.

Big difference with OP's hypothetical case. If you do Yolo and a friend change it up, then
the original bet wins. You cannot say what emotions you can have learning that you are
not earning that huge amount of money because of the mistake you didn't commit.

I have seen personalities who put all the money in their pocket in one bet and watch the reactions on thier faces when they lose it. I actually sympathize a bit seeing the regret on thier faces while just watching us play and him on the corner. But you know they are back the next day.  Addiction I guess but they are conscious about what they do.

But you know when I see them win after yoloing, I'm actually amazed at how happy this guy with the absence of strategy can make it if he continues to do it. then you learn he bet it all again. It's just that our neighborhood gambling house is full of unimaginable characters.

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December 14, 2022, 02:31:04 PM
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I learned pretty early on in life to make your own decisions so that if things go wrong you don’t seek to blame others. Sometimes involving others is inevitable in life, and personally this is where I tend to run into problems because nobody is as passionate about your ideas as you. Same thing with your decisions. Nobody has as much on the line for your decisions as you do, so take responsibility for them and don’t look to blame others regardless of the situation.

taking responsibility for our own decisions is the best way to go in life
taking the blame before blaiming others, not complaining, so forth and so on.
makes life much better.
Taking responsibility for our own decisions can be a process of how we can act wisely and deal with all situations that might occur. And if we accidentally make mistakes after making decisions, we can also learn from those mistakes. This will also make us understand that the decision-making process continues and will mature us later. We will not complain about what we will receive because we are aware of the risks so we will think about reducing the risks that might occur later.

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December 14, 2022, 02:37:28 PM
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It is not ideal to make an all-in with a one-pot game because its just an all-or-nothing game and we know the possible odds with the game mostly with this kind of game, at the end get the courage and make a risky still decision of the player to make it with this large amount it will really test your friendship if you will make it continue or not well if you decision will become tough because its a battle against friendship vs the money situation and trust is really the big deal.

Well, to do an all-in seems like something very risky, at this point I wouldn't take a risk like that, unless it's at a time when I have so much money that I wouldn't care if I lose or not. , but really betting and leaving the money like this is something that you have to have nerves of steel, I think that this type of thing should be thought about very well, in which case this is something each person has in themselves to make their decision, to my are things that when one is in a period of emotion one must have a lot of restraint, a lot of control and above all that the reason is the one that prevails, in a casino game one can very easily lose control, that is where our willpower and responsibility.


Yolo is something that is common inside casinos. Most of the time, those who are desperate are the ones who practice this thing, thinking that if luck permits them, they will win and recover or win more.

Big difference with OP's hypothetical case. If you do Yolo and a friend change it up, then
the original bet wins. You cannot say what emotions you can have learning that you are
not earning that huge amount of money because of the mistake you didn't commit.

a little bit of YOLO (you only live once) mindset can be good in life to give us energy and initiative, but too much can kill us
it's better to find some sort of balance between present focusing and future focusing

and always manage risk and avoid ruin

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December 14, 2022, 02:38:25 PM
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I believe alot of gamblers would have learnt their life time lessons from depending their trust with friends, there's no extent of how you can go without being disappointed by your friend (s) and this has made many people assume themselves to be responsible to the outcome of what they've been through than been influenced by friends which will end up turning a disappointments, trust is only confided on self and not with a third party or friend as the case may be.


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December 14, 2022, 02:41:47 PM
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I will be angry and disappointed of course but he or she doesn't have the right to move or do anything with it because he or she didn't own it in the first place and I think that shouldn't be valid as it was not my friends bet and it was mine. I just hope that it wouldn't happen to anyone because it would really destroy friendship.

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I learned pretty early on in life to make your own decisions so that if things go wrong you don’t seek to blame others. Sometimes involving others is inevitable in life, and personally this is where I tend to run into problems because nobody is as passionate about your ideas as you. Same thing with your decisions. Nobody has as much on the line for your decisions as you do, so take responsibility for them and don’t look to blame others regardless of the situation.
You are absolutely correct, always looking for someone to blame for any and every situation is a sign of low self esteem and lack of confidence in your self and your decision, one have to have confidence in themselves first before trusting their own decisions, and when a person end up blaming some one else for his or her own mistakes, then that shows the person never trusted in his decision and as well lack self confidence.

I also agree that there are times when blaming somebody for some thing that has to do with us is inevitable, but in such a situation, then person should remember the other person he wants to or he's blaming didn't force him to do what he did with a gun pointed to his head.
If one decided to follow another person's advice, the keyword there is "decided" which simply means you were not forced, so what ever be the outcome of following that person's advice, should be on you, if following the advice was a mistake, don't blame the person that gave the advice, but blame yourself for following the advice.

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December 14, 2022, 05:45:47 PM
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I believe alot of gamblers would have learnt their life time lessons from depending their trust with friends, there's no extent of how you can go without being disappointed by your friend (s) and this has made many people assume themselves to be responsible to the outcome of what they've been through than been influenced by friends which will end up turning a disappointments, trust is only confided on self and not with a third party or friend as the case may be.
If there are many gamblers, who can learn from what they have got, of course, there will not be many gamblers who experience gambling addiction problems. And if it is trust in a friend, they may be disappointed if the friend has made a mistake and will not be able to trust him again fully. It is difficult to accept mistakes made by other people but only forgiving is what we can do so that he can also learn from mistakes while supporting him so he doesn't repeat them. After all, many of them made mistakes unintentionally, and we should be able to forgive them.

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December 14, 2022, 06:01:03 PM
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I will be angry and disappointed of course but he or she doesn't have the right to move or do anything with it because he or she didn't own it in the first place and I think that shouldn't be valid as it was not my friends bet and it was mine. I just hope that it wouldn't happen to anyone because it would really destroy friendship.
If I am not mistaken this is not allowed at a casino, if you make a bet on a specific number of the roulette no other player is even allowed to touch your bet, so I doubt it will be allowed that another person other than the owner of that money can move the bet, however you never know, I suppose there are some casinos out there that may consider not paying the bet in the case it won a huge mount of money, but in that case you have bigger problems than your friend as you should probably not be in that casino gambling your money away.
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If I am not mistaken this is not allowed at a casino, if you make a bet on a specific number of the roulette no other player is even allowed to touch your bet, so I doubt it will be allowed that another person other than the owner of that money can move the bet, however you never know, I suppose there are some casinos out there that may consider not paying the bet in the case it won a huge mount of money, but in that case you have bigger problems than your friend as you should probably not be in that casino gambling your money away.

Has become a general rule. If in a physical casino, obviously it will not allow someone to take bets that you have previously made. moreover, if this roulette game has been played. something that is highly discouraged, and not allowed. besides breaking casino rules, someone will also have problems with their friendship.

But yes, fortunately this only happened in a movie show. imagine, if this really happened. to be sure, there will be a little commotion at the casino that attracts attention while disturbing the comfort of other visitors. the effect will vary widely, but one thing is certain. a friendship is also at stake because experiencing this unpleasant incident. but again, luckily this is just a movie.

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December 14, 2022, 11:30:07 PM
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I will be angry and disappointed of course but he or she doesn't have the right to move or do anything with it because he or she didn't own it in the first place and I think that shouldn't be valid as it was not my friends bet and it was mine. I just hope that it wouldn't happen to anyone because it would really destroy friendship.
If I am not mistaken this is not allowed at a casino, if you make a bet on a specific number of the roulette no other player is even allowed to touch your bet, so I doubt it will be allowed that another person other than the owner of that money can move the bet, however you never know, I suppose there are some casinos out there that may consider not paying the bet in the case it won a huge mount of money, but in that case you have bigger problems than your friend as you should probably not be in that casino gambling your money away.
This is why lot of people been saying that it isnt really a realistic scenario which someone could really make out those changes of bets when it is already closed.The dealer or agent wont really be allowing such

alteration which in this case then you would really be that sure that it would really be that final.If in case that this one happens then you can sue them out on why letting other people do changed up their bets.

As for your friend, then you do know his concern which its not bad but if we do speak on something about winning huge then this is where relationship might end up.
You cant just let past that missing 300k win just because of such sudden change.

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I will be angry and disappointed of course but he or she doesn't have the right to move or do anything with it because he or she didn't own it in the first place and I think that shouldn't be valid as it was not my friends bet and it was mine. I just hope that it wouldn't happen to anyone because it would really destroy friendship.
You must be angry and disappointed when you see him do it but what if he did it by accident and had no intention of doing it?
Everyone can make mistakes unintentionally, moreover, we can also make those mistakes ourselves.
And we can only forgive him and try to come to terms with what he did.
And when we can accept and forgive it, it won't ruin the friendship we have made for a while and it might even strengthen our friendship.

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I will be angry and disappointed of course but he or she doesn't have the right to move or do anything with it because he or she didn't own it in the first place and I think that shouldn't be valid as it was not my friends bet and it was mine. I just hope that it wouldn't happen to anyone because it would really destroy friendship.
If I am not mistaken this is not allowed at a casino, if you make a bet on a specific number of the roulette no other player is even allowed to touch your bet, so I doubt it will be allowed that another person other than the owner of that money can move the bet, however you never know, I suppose there are some casinos out there that may consider not paying the bet in the case it won a huge mount of money, but in that case you have bigger problems than your friend as you should probably not be in that casino gambling your money away.

Yes that is the rule, but sometimes if a roulette machine is very busy the dealer can't identify who bet who in the game. If this is a baccarat or blackjack yeah, the dealer can identify it. Probably there is casino that are not going to pay when someone touches you besides the bettor. But this example could have happened in many casinos and it's really up to the individual involved how they are going to settle it, specially their friendship.

 
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December 15, 2022, 09:56:03 AM
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I learned pretty early on in life to make your own decisions so that if things go wrong you don’t seek to blame others. Sometimes involving others is inevitable in life, and personally this is where I tend to run into problems because nobody is as passionate about your ideas as you. Same thing with your decisions. Nobody has as much on the line for your decisions as you do, so take responsibility for them and don’t look to blame others regardless of the situation.
But that was not a small amount of money, it might be small to some people, but according to the movie, it was not a small amount to the bettor. Although if I am his friend, I may not just do anything and leave it like that, just because of what you said to be the reason. If I make mistake, I will not become the enemy of myself and I will move on in life, but if a friend make a mistake that could have helped me, that if he did not involve himself at all I would have been lucky, I will always put the blame on him.

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I believe alot of gamblers would have learnt their life time lessons from depending their trust with friends, there's no extent of how you can go without being disappointed by your friend (s) and this has made many people assume themselves to be responsible to the outcome of what they've been through than been influenced by friends which will end up turning a disappointments, trust is only confided on self and not with a third party or friend as the case may be.

trust walks in a delicate balance
it's hard to build up and easy to destroy

it's usually better to keep friendships separate of money matters, imo
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December 15, 2022, 01:31:53 PM
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It is not ideal to make an all-in with a one-pot game because its just an all-or-nothing game and we know the possible odds with the game mostly with this kind of game, at the end get the courage and make a risky still decision of the player to make it with this large amount it will really test your friendship if you will make it continue or not well if you decision will become tough because its a battle against friendship vs the money situation and trust is really the big deal.
I think that was the motto of most gambler. It is better for them to go home empty than winning only small amounts so they just bet huge and accept if it's a loss.

This is heavy, and the question now would be, isn't this a bad gambling habit?.
Less say for example, a gambler with this mindset and attitude towards gambling keeps betting huge amount of money and keep going home empty everyday for atleast a week, this is not easy way into depression?.
I am not a professional gambler and might likely never know what it feels like to be one, but morals teach us to always gamble with funds we can afford to loss on daily, weekly or monthly basis, though many other times, greed has pushed many of us into gambling away far more than we can afford to loose all because we wanted to hit it big, but eventually lost all and end up struggling to cope with the loss - this is coiled from my personal experience.

Such a motto is a wrong motto is you ask me, I would rather go to the casino with an amount I can afford to lose-(learnt in the hard way), and if I must not return home with big amount, then let me return with small amount instead of returning with absolutely nothing.


It is a very intelligent way of thinking, money should always be given the value it deserves and it deserves that we know how to use it at the moment of fun, sometimes for just a moment of adrenaline you can lose everything and it is worse, because it would stay out of the game and without money, if the strategy you say is applied it is much better, because only one can afford the amount of money that can be lost and the other amount will always be intact for personal or family expenses, that is knowing how to think and to do things, if a person cannot take these preventive measures very easily, they can become addicted if they lose their money and have no way to support such losses.


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December 15, 2022, 01:50:24 PM
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I believe alot of gamblers would have learnt their life time lessons from depending their trust with friends, there's no extent of how you can go without being disappointed by your friend (s) and this has made many people assume themselves to be responsible to the outcome of what they've been through than been influenced by friends which will end up turning a disappointments, trust is only confided on self and not with a third party or friend as the case may be.
Friends and money are the most dangerous things, where trust will be lost if our friends know that we have a lot of money and events often occur in several environments. I've had the same experience, but this is a different bet from what the OP mentioned, where when I bet on a football match, I usually leave the betting money with my friends because at that time I didn't have a smartphone to access the betting site, so I always came to his house to give the betting money.

At that time I won around $500 that was one of the biggest wins, some of the wins I actually wanted to buy a smartphone so it wouldn't bother him anymore and when I asked for my money he just disappeared and no one knows where he is now, even though every time I win I often tipped him around $5 to $10. As a life lesson for me, we can't always trust friends even though I consider them like brothers and this is quite a bitter experience for me.
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December 16, 2022, 06:16:43 AM
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I learned pretty early on in life to make your own decisions so that if things go wrong you don’t seek to blame others. Sometimes involving others is inevitable in life, and personally this is where I tend to run into problems because nobody is as passionate about your ideas as you. Same thing with your decisions. Nobody has as much on the line for your decisions as you do, so take responsibility for them and don’t look to blame others regardless of the situation.
But that was not a small amount of money, it might be small to some people, but according to the movie, it was not a small amount to the bettor. Although if I am his friend, I may not just do anything and leave it like that, just because of what you said to be the reason. If I make mistake, I will not become the enemy of myself and I will move on in life, but if a friend make a mistake that could have helped me, that if he did not involve himself at all I would have been lucky, I will always put the blame on him.
I agree that trust is something that is easily lost, and that is something I have to deal with everyday as a person with mental doubt at all times. It's not something I ignore, I work on it everyday, but I know that one bad word, one terrible situation, one big mistake and I can lose my wife, my friends, everyone I love, because I said the wrong thing or did the wrong thing.

Not everyone lives with the fear of this, I do, and that is why I would never do something like the video showed, impossible, I would just let them lose their money completely, and that way I would be watching them make a mistake if I have to but I still wouldn't be able to intervene.
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December 16, 2022, 01:29:33 PM
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I believe alot of gamblers would have learnt their life time lessons from depending their trust with friends, there's no extent of how you can go without being disappointed by your friend (s) and this has made many people assume themselves to be responsible to the outcome of what they've been through than been influenced by friends which will end up turning a disappointments, trust is only confided on self and not with a third party or friend as the case may be.
trust walks in a delicate balance
it's hard to build up and easy to destroy

it's usually better to keep friendships separate of money matters, imo
even when it comes to business partnerships.
This is true. Have you heard the issue with stake last time? Their business partner which I think it was also their friend, sue them. This of course because of the money. Money create problems. The only downside of being solo is it can be boring but this is better than losing a friend.

We can still hang out with our friends once we are done with our business. Some of my friends have disappointed me before but it was from a different thing, not money or gambling. Good thing I can control my temper and I can extend my patience so me and my friends are still solid even until today. Sometimes it only has to do with our emotions. We should think about the consequences before taking an action.
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