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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?
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November 08, 2022, 03:30:45 AM |
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There are at least 2 ways I can think of for rigging a roulette wheel. If you alter how the table balances (such as putting something small and unnoticeable under two of the legs) then you'll probably find there is a greater chance the ball ends up on one side of the wheel than the other (or clusters around certain specific numbers) - there could even be a way to do this with two opposite legs out of alignment (on the diagonal) so a host or someone off camera can change the lean of the table every so few spins without being noticed.
There's also a possibility grooves could be added to parts of the wheel where the ball spins so its course changes as it roles (if you think of the bounce of a ball that hits a corner then it's a lot more predictable). There's probably a lot of people on both sides of a casino trying to look for these sorts of things though because it can hurt the house's edge if the wheel is a bit more predictable.
These both don't guarantee a specific number is hit though so it'll still make the outcome seem random (if not done in a way that's noticeable - someone stretching across the table to do more than pick up the ball would likely be perceived as weird at best).
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November 08, 2022, 03:57:57 AM |
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There are at least 2 ways I can think of for rigging a roulette wheel. If you alter how the table balances (such as putting something small and unnoticeable under two of the legs) then you'll probably find there is a greater chance the ball ends up on one side of the wheel than the other (or clusters around certain specific numbers) - there could even be a way to do this with two opposite legs out of alignment (on the diagonal) so a host or someone off camera can change the lean of the table every so few spins without being noticed.
There's also a possibility grooves could be added to parts of the wheel where the ball spins so its course changes as it roles (if you think of the bounce of a ball that hits a corner then it's a lot more predictable). There's probably a lot of people on both sides of a casino trying to look for these sorts of things though because it can hurt the house's edge if the wheel is a bit more predictable.
These both don't guarantee a specific number is hit though so it'll still make the outcome seem random (if not done in a way that's noticeable - someone stretching across the table to do more than pick up the ball would likely be perceived as weird at best).
This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in
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November 08, 2022, 04:14:58 AM |
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This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in
You are right to blame something external rather than yourself. Was that the revenge you were talking about yesterday? Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revengeIt looks like you didn't get your revenge very well, but you're right, it's not your fault. Maybe the roulette wheel is rigged or something.
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November 08, 2022, 04:18:14 AM Last edit: November 08, 2022, 04:42:31 AM by Fishy001 |
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This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in
You are right to blame something external rather than yourself. Was that the revenge you were talking about yesterday? Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revengeIt looks like you didn't get your revenge very well, but you're right, it's not your fault. Maybe the roulette wheel is rigged or something. Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time.. The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won. Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me
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November 08, 2022, 05:18:22 AM |
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This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in
You are right to blame something external rather than yourself. Was that the revenge you were talking about yesterday? Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revengeIt looks like you didn't get your revenge very well, but you're right, it's not your fault. Maybe the roulette wheel is rigged or something. Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time.. The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won. Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me if you want a lot of money you don't have to play roulette you can invest anything to get a return on your investment, basically everyone already knows casinos will not give you a lot of money even if you play with hundreds or thousands of dollars, they have their own ways to take your money its hard to find a fair game unless maybe you bet on sports because it won't be easy to cheat, to be honest i'm not a roullete lover but it looks like you made the right decision to leave the casino before your money runs out ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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November 08, 2022, 08:06:05 AM |
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There are at least 2 ways I can think of for rigging a roulette wheel. If you alter how the table balances (such as putting something small and unnoticeable under two of the legs) then you'll probably find there is a greater chance the ball ends up on one side of the wheel than the other (or clusters around certain specific numbers) - there could even be a way to do this with two opposite legs out of alignment (on the diagonal) so a host or someone off camera can change the lean of the table every so few spins without being noticed.
There's also a possibility grooves could be added to parts of the wheel where the ball spins so its course changes as it roles (if you think of the bounce of a ball that hits a corner then it's a lot more predictable). There's probably a lot of people on both sides of a casino trying to look for these sorts of things though because it can hurt the house's edge if the wheel is a bit more predictable.
These both don't guarantee a specific number is hit though so it'll still make the outcome seem random (if not done in a way that's noticeable - someone stretching across the table to do more than pick up the ball would likely be perceived as weird at best).
But the fact is that casinos, be it online or physical casinos do not have to manipulate the roulette table before they make huge amount of money. I will say Fishy001 is only getting it not right and the day might not be a lucky day for him and he lost. Is there any good reason the table should be manipulated? To me, no good reason because any number can be taken by the gamblers. But we should know that casinos do have house edge advantage which makes more games to favour them than the gamblers.
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November 08, 2022, 08:09:15 AM |
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I have an idea of my own that any thing can be rigged,yes even the US elections that put Trump to power.Coming back here,while a roulette can be rigged but why should anyone do that as it does not make a lot of sense,roulette is a game of luck and in the end a huge portion of winnings in offline casinos come from roulette tables so I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to rig a game which is guaranteed to bring to the house profits over the long run.
Online is a different story as everything is controlled by a program or algorithm which can be changed so I don't know what to say here,my idea was for the offline roulette which makes no sense to rig it when it guarantees profits to the house.
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November 08, 2022, 08:11:19 AM |
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I'm not sure if it is really possible, but I saw a movie wherein the staff who is in charge to run the game for the players has a button to move the wheel as well as the ball without the players' notice. If this really happens on land based casino or even with online platforms, that would be unfair. I'm not into slots and roulettes, but because of these tendencies, I'm not into 'pure luck' gambling games. In sportsbetting, there is also a tendency for result manipulation depending on the fighters or teams. Money rules and money talks, right? Since we cannot easily determined if the house is manipulating the game, be observant. As other players suggest, if you often lose, try playing on other platform to somehow calibrate your losses. This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in
You are right to blame something external rather than yourself. Was that the revenge you were talking about yesterday? Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revengeIt looks like you didn't get your revenge very well, but you're right, it's not your fault. Maybe the roulette wheel is rigged or something. Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time.. The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won. Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me if you want a lot of money you don't have to play roulette you can invest anything to get a return on your investment, basically everyone already knows casinos will not give you a lot of money even if you play with hundreds or thousands of dollars, they have their own ways to take your money its hard to find a fair game unless maybe you bet on sports because it won't be easy to cheat, to be honest i'm not a roullete lover but it looks like you made the right decision to leave the casino before your money runs out ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But that's another story to tell. We are in gambling dection so what could we expect? People here are into this activity and are just sharing informations and possibilities about their experiences and thoughts about the games they are playing. This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in
You are right to blame something external rather than yourself. Was that the revenge you were talking about yesterday? Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revengeIt looks like you didn't get your revenge very well, but you're right, it's not your fault. Maybe the roulette wheel is rigged or something. Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time.. The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won. Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me Luck itself is not constant. Things tend to change, that's what gambling is about.
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Online is a different story as everything is controlled by a program or algorithm which can be changed so I don't know what to say here,my idea was for the offline roulette which makes no sense to rig it when it guarantees profits to the house.
That is just it, there is possibility that online casinos can rig compare to land based ones, yet is there a reason for it? People will later likely know and this can damage the reputation of the gambling site. But why rigging anything when they set a hedge that makes them have better chance to win. Even in sport that bettors have more chance to win, gambling sites set odds in a way more gamblers will lose and they will gain, it is like that in casinos too, while even that the chance to lose more are in casinos compared to sport betting. So no good reason for casinos to manipulate anything because they will always grow and become more established.
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November 08, 2022, 09:33:28 AM |
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There are at least 2 ways I can think of for rigging a roulette wheel. If you alter how the table balances (such as putting something small and unnoticeable under two of the legs) then you'll probably find there is a greater chance the ball ends up on one side of the wheel than the other (or clusters around certain specific numbers) - there could even be a way to do this with two opposite legs out of alignment (on the diagonal) so a host or someone off camera can change the lean of the table every so few spins without being noticed.
There's also a possibility grooves could be added to parts of the wheel where the ball spins so its course changes as it roles (if you think of the bounce of a ball that hits a corner then it's a lot more predictable). There's probably a lot of people on both sides of a casino trying to look for these sorts of things though because it can hurt the house's edge if the wheel is a bit more predictable.
These both don't guarantee a specific number is hit though so it'll still make the outcome seem random (if not done in a way that's noticeable - someone stretching across the table to do more than pick up the ball would likely be perceived as weird at best).
This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in I am assuming that your "revenge" and plan to "bankrupt" them didn't go as planned? also, you don't have any evidence that the roulette game was rigged. it seems to me that you agreed with jackg to justify your thoughts that you were cheated and is denying the fact that you lost twice in a row fair and square.
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November 08, 2022, 09:37:59 AM |
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This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in
You are right to blame something external rather than yourself. Was that the revenge you were talking about yesterday? Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revengeIt looks like you didn't get your revenge very well, but you're right, it's not your fault. Maybe the roulette wheel is rigged or something. Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time.. The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won. Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me Maybe you are just expecting to much then didn't quit immediately once you are on winning side and then bad luck came then you lose all your money. This happen always especially when you became greedy and want to earn more money since you are not contended on what you are receiving at that time. Maybe next time best solution to gain from roullete is to quit immediately and comeback tommorrow or the other day since if you came back in an hour or the same day you might lose all your money.
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November 08, 2022, 09:55:18 AM |
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I knew a croupier who worked in one of the biggest casinos in my city until gambling was moved to a separate area. He said that they were taught all sorts of tricks to save the casino money. He said that there were such croupiers who could throw the ball in the right sector of the roulette wheel. Believe it or not, it's up to you, but I guess he had no reason to lie to me. Personally, I believe that the main purpose of a croupier is to beat the casino goer and not lose a smile on his face.
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About 10 years ago, a casino opened in my city, we don’t have many of them, and the news about this quickly spread around the city that the casino was looking for a croupier. My friend decided to go to work at roulette, he was accepted and after some time he noticed that if you twist the ball with a certain force, then the ball stops in approximately one area. He told the owner about it and showed how he does it. So yes, it's possible, maybe it was discovered by accident by my friend, but it happens.
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November 08, 2022, 01:18:18 PM |
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The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won.
Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me
Just go home when you've won already a lot and spend the money right away if you can't stop that itch you've got on your hand. Because that will happen again whenever you feel that you have to spin or bet and go back again in that casino. Forget about blaming the casino as they're not going to just giveaway money to the gamblers. And stop that mindset of taking revenge on them as if you'll really going to bankrupt them, look, you're the one now on the opposing side from your own words.
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November 08, 2022, 01:33:18 PM |
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Yes it was rigged in casini near my house i hit all the time..
The solution is to get out fast from one casino if you see too many loses and go to casino you won.
Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me
I am confused. You said you will get your revenge so it was you who did lose the funds in the first place. You went back when it opened again because you said it was closed yesterday. Now you are lucky this sh*t did not happen to you? Or are we lucky this doesn't happen to us? Anyway, maybe it's rigged, or maybe it's not. Just always remember the house will always win. Not in a literal way, but they always have a higher chance to win than yours. 60-40 or maybe more. Considering the "rigged" accusations, it will shoot up to an 80 percent win chance.
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November 08, 2022, 01:40:18 PM |
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Anyway i feel like thr casino is rigged or cursed cuase i am a lucky guy this shit not happen to me
I feel like you have to grow up and read a bit more. While there's always the chance some games are rigged here and there, you seem to completely ignore the math that tells that the casino has always better chances than you on long term. As I said from start: keep it at fun level (and money you afford to lose). You decided to go past that and lose some nice money. Too bad...
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November 08, 2022, 01:52:59 PM |
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I don't believe it can be "rigged" in the sense that it has to be because the games are designed to make the house money over the long run, so they don't have to be. However, if you're going to gamble, be sure you know what you're going to wager on and how much you're willing to lose before you start. Never play a game for more than 30 minutes to an hour while hoping to get lucky. It never occurs. Most importantly, when things get tough, know when to call it quits.
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November 08, 2022, 02:06:49 PM |
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Of course Roullete can be rigged but I doubt an outsider can do that without being caught. Only the croupier could successfully rig the game in their own way because they know the tricks or table very well. We all know the casino wants you to always lose no matter how much they let one win, so it is best to just enjoy the thrills of the moment with cash you can lose and time you sure can let go. Otherwise, the thought of winning if it was played like so and not like so , might hunt one for a long time.
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November 08, 2022, 03:19:32 PM |
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Of course Roullete can be rigged but I doubt an outsider can do that without being caught. Only the croupier could successfully rig the game in their own way because they know the tricks or table very well. We all know the casino wants you to always lose no matter how much they let one win, so it is best to just enjoy the thrills of the moment with cash you can lose and time you sure can let go. Otherwise, the thought of winning if it was played like so and not like so , might hunt one for a long time.
That's why the odds are always favoring the casino, they didn't even need to rig the wheel considering that the 0 and 00 will already be making money for them. But croupiers can do it with incentives from casinos is possible. The thing is that if you caught a casino rigging, you can't do anything about it even if you report it to the police. But if we players get caught, you'd be punished.
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