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November 08, 2022, 06:37:25 PM
Last edit: November 09, 2022, 06:25:32 PM by Blawpaw
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casinos can find a way to have a mathematical advantage but there is no way to get the roulette rigged without someone noticing. And in fact that is what casinos do with every game. they try to get the advantage to have a profit.

You can learn more about how casinos work the roulette game out here: https://www.casinonewsdaily.com/roulette-guide/rig-roulette-wheel/
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November 08, 2022, 06:42:29 PM
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Go to youtube and you will know.

Even "card-game" with the information around 6-8 deck we don't know is the card are fully completed or not. But from my perspective, rouelte can be rigged comparing to other game because we don't know inside the wheel

+ with a video from youtube about how rigged is rouelete can be control.

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November 08, 2022, 06:48:05 PM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

Yes, it can be rigged.
A roulette is not more than a mechanical device and it is supposed to be random according some some variables, like the angular momentum and the friction between the wheel and its surroundings. However, there are mechanisms which could be implemented in a concealed way to increase the chances to get an specific number or color.

They could increase the friction in specific section of the shaft and even make use of weak magnets to attract the ball or marker.
There are no boundaries when it is about getting new ways to scam people in front of their eyes.

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November 08, 2022, 07:08:24 PM
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Go to youtube and you will know.

Even "card-game" with the information around 6-8 deck we don't know is the card are fully completed or not. But from my perspective, rouelte can be rigged comparing to other game because we don't know inside the wheel

+ with a video from youtube about how rigged is rouelete can be control.

Yes, there are a lot of videos on Youtube about how they can cheat when playing roulette, but that even if you're sure that you're being cheated it will be quite problematic to prove it.

To be honest I don't understand gamblers who bet on a certain number because the probability of winning is negligible (even if the casino plays fair). I'd rather play slots or dice.

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November 08, 2022, 07:14:07 PM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

You can't be sure of anything other than what you create yourself, if the institution values its reputation, then they will not resort to illegal ways to cheat, and so there was even a case when a croupier with accomplices used a radio-controlled ball back in 1973, it's hard to imagine what is possible in our time.
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November 08, 2022, 08:01:07 PM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

Yes, of course, an experienced croupier can influence the outcome of a roulette game. 

An experienced croupier can throw the ball into the desired sector of the roulette with amazing accuracy.  Hit accuracy is about 2 sectors.  Also, casinos often use balls of different weights, balls with a displaced center of gravity, etc. These are well-known tricks. 

Experienced offline casino players sometimes set up group round-the-clock monitoring of one or another croupier in order to fix patterns in the launch of the ball.  By setting up such a pattern, you can secure a big win.

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November 08, 2022, 08:47:31 PM
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Why need to prove it? just avoid it.

If people want a game without any cheated, from my perspective "POKER" is the answer. You're playing against other player not the house, and the house only provided you a table for all-player without any taken fee.

POKER is the game without being rigged.

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November 08, 2022, 08:52:44 PM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

There are many ways that a roulette wheel could be rigged to favor the house, but in reality they are destined to win over the long run so it doesn't make much sense for them to cheat as long as they can tolerate the variations in player bets. Some examples of fixing a roulette wheel could be - having a slight tilt on the wheel along with using some sort of weighting system to make it end up in a certain area more often, using magnets within the bed of the roulette wheel to gently guide it to a stop in the desired location or even the rotation mechanics themselves being carefully engineered to slow to a stop at the most favorable outcome on a specific bet.

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November 08, 2022, 09:00:27 PM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?
Of course it can be rigged but it is not on the best interest of casino to do this, you need to understand the greatest advantage that casinos have is the randomness of the games themselves, the fact you cannot predict what number is going to come up next plus the house edge allows them to make a lot of profits, if they rigged the roulette then someone with enough patience could discover some numbers appear more often than others and this will give the player an edge but not the casino, so the casinos want the roulette and any other game to work precisely as intended.
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?
Pretty much any game on a live casino can be rigged. Even the roulette. There are multiple ways this could be done. For some putting some weight on one side of the spinning wheel could favor a certain spot on the wheel, while depriving all the other sides, effectively rigging the game. But licensed casinos wouldn't be able to do this since as far as I know quality checks are being made to their equipment to make sure that no game is rigged in favor of the house. That being said, if you're scared that a particular casino could rig the game against your favor, might as well choose a different casino or refrain from playing in the game you are most afraid about.
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November 08, 2022, 09:29:31 PM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

Be it rigged or not, there's no way to tell it honestly. To minimize the risk though, expect that these casinos won't ruin their reputation because of the rigged game possibilities. However, you have to accept that the house was designed in favor of the casinos that's why you are "gambling" against them.

It doesn't mean that you are losing, the casino is cheating on you right away. That's not gambling anymore if there's a 100% win rate. There's no special gambler there that can always turn the table upside down.

Why not the casino just give free money to all if there's no such thing as gambling there?

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November 08, 2022, 10:44:10 PM
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Roulette tables have been rigged in pop culture fiction. Movies and TV series have depicted there being an electromagnetic positioned underneath the roulette wheel which pulls the roulette ball in a direction to rig games.

Aside from that, I can't remember allegations or accusations of roulette being rigged anywhere. It is possible that roulette is one of the more fair casino games out there. Roulette has a very good reputation. Which is part of the reason why they are so popular for gamblers and have survived for so long inside casinos.
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November 08, 2022, 11:20:04 PM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

It might be but we will never know. Depending on the reputation of the physical casino, I think the reputable ones are following gambling standard procedures on how the roulette should be. Besides, let's accept the fact that winning big here is really hard no matter how's fairness applied here.

No way it will be designed to give most of their customers a good win always.

If ever you asked that question because you lose playing roulette, that's gambling and you have to move on.
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if you want a lot of money you don't have to play roulette you can invest anything to get a return on your investment, basically everyone already knows casinos will not give you a lot of money even if you play with hundreds or thousands of dollars, they have their own ways to take your money its hard to find a fair game unless maybe you bet on sports because it won't be easy to cheat, to be honest i'm not a roullete lover but it looks like you made the right decision to leave the casino before your money runs out  Grin
And you think investing is safe? There is also a risk there and it can still be considered as gambling. It's hard to earn lots of money in investing and it may take you a long time for you to do it. I think doing a business can yield you better returns or we can also do trading but again there are still risks on here.

Casinos are not built for the people to be rich but they are only built to give them entertainment so we should only treat it this way. I think you're right that it's hard to find a fair game offline but not online because we can verify each of our bets but we can also judge if they are legit or not based on the duration of their existence and based on the feedback of other gamblers.

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November 09, 2022, 10:52:34 AM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

I think everything is physical casino can be rigged, so in roulette, maybe it's not balance, and could favor certain numbers. But it's going to be very difficult to spot as casinos are also known for shuffling their roulette machine.

And that is the odds for a single number to be hit is very high payout because the chances are very small. And depending what kind of roulette you are playing, whether it's single or double zeroes, the odds will always be against you.

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November 09, 2022, 01:24:19 PM
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Again, I mentioned before that roulette can be intentional or not-intentional being rigged by casinos. You can find a machine that is biased for certain numbers, but it's that because of how the machines are set up by the casinos themselves without knowing that is is not balance, hence it is biased due to some  imperfections.

On the other hand, if they know this before hand, then obviously, they can set it up to trap gamblers and give them more house edge. But that is hard to proved, unless you will do what they call clocking, wherein putting hours after hours of recording the winning numbers.

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Even if you spend hours writing down the numbers that fall out at the roulette wheel is not the fact that it will give any result because most likely in order to improve safety casino owners change their strategy to avoid falling under suspicion.

It seems to me that it is almost impossible to prove foul play at the roulette table. Therefore, after several losses I bypass this game of chance and I do not quite understand gamblers who play roulette.

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November 09, 2022, 02:23:09 PM
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There are at least 2 ways I can think of for rigging a roulette wheel. If you alter how the table balances (such as putting something small and unnoticeable under two of the legs) then you'll probably find there is a greater chance the ball ends up on one side of the wheel than the other (or clusters around certain specific numbers) - there could even be a way to do this with two opposite legs out of alignment (on the diagonal) so a host or someone off camera can change the lean of the table every so few spins without being noticed.

There's also a possibility grooves could be added to parts of the wheel where the ball spins so its course changes as it roles (if you think of the bounce of a ball that hits a corner then it's a lot more predictable). There's probably a lot of people on both sides of a casino trying to look for these sorts of things though because it can hurt the house's edge if the wheel is a bit more predictable.

These both don't guarantee a specific number is hit though so it'll still make the outcome seem random (if not done in a way that's noticeable - someone stretching across the table to do more than pick up the ball would likely be perceived as weird at best).


This why i lose 2 days in a row thiefs. New casino iwas in
I am assuming that your "revenge" and plan to "bankrupt" them didn't go as planned? also, you don't have any evidence that the roulette game was rigged. it seems to me that you agreed with jackg to justify your thoughts that you were cheated and is denying the fact that you lost twice in a row fair and square.

I think he still wants to get revenge so he wants to justify what he thinks that he was cheated on that is why he lost,  this is gambling no guarantee of winning don't look for loopholes to justify why you lose, if a gambler keeps justifying why he losses and he only expect winning you will likely get addicted and keeps on winning because he thinks he cannot lose and he only wins everytime he plays.

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November 09, 2022, 02:29:29 PM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?
Of course, you can because we can cheat on anything humans make.
But I don't know how to cheat the roulette machine; obviously, only people who know how a roulette machine works will know.
And maybe they are the ones who can cheat it so that victory still comes to them.
And if that happens, I think the casino will suspect him and investigate the person and arrest him if he is proven to have cheated the roulette machine.

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November 09, 2022, 02:48:35 PM
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I talk on live roullete in physical casino can it be rigged?

Of course. Almost any casino game can be rigged and roulette isn’t an exception. But casinos don’t really need to cheat on their games because the math is already on their side and it is the only friend they need. Cheating on their own games would damage their reputation very badly and they will lose whatever player base they got very quickly. Why risk it when they already make money without cheating? If a casino cheats, people will notice that eventually.

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