Trustdice: Terrible sportsbook, 5x! wager to withdraw

[Yogee]

Majority of players probably do not read TOS but a reasonable bettor would at least check what is in the terms for clarification before opening a thread attacking their wager requirement. Would you still complain if you already knew that only your first deposit require 5x wager?

Their wagering requirement deserves to be attacked though in this manner. If anything, this thread actually provides more clarity to gamblers who are thinking of investing in this particular site.

Also, no wagering requirement after the first deposit makes zero sense since it turns the site into heaven for money launderers. There are way better alternatives out there.

OP isn't attacking from that angle though. He is coming from a place of ignorance and then complains later which is the whole basis of my question. OP would probably appreciate the one-time wagering requirement since he seems to be one that doesn't want to be bothered too much every time he gambles.

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[arwin100]

Majority of players probably do not read TOS but a reasonable bettor would at least check what is in the terms for clarification before opening a thread attacking their wager requirement. Would you still complain if you already knew that only your first deposit require 5x wager?

Their wagering requirement deserves to be attacked though in this manner. If anything, this thread actually provides more clarity to gamblers who are thinking of investing in this particular site.

Also, no wagering requirement after the first deposit makes zero sense since it turns the site into heaven for money launderers. There are way better alternatives out there.

OP isn't attacking from that angle though. He is coming from a place of ignorance and then complains later which is the whole basis of my question. OP would probably appreciate the one-time wagering requirement since he seems to be one that doesn't want to be bothered too much every time he gambles.

He clearly said to this thread that this is not a scam accusation so we can conclude that he don't have any intention to attack but rather he want to burst out his frustration towards Trustdice.

But since to many people in this thread give their opinion plus one of their representative create a thread that clarify regarding on their wager requirements I guess OP is now been cleared out towards this issue.

Also its normal to commit this mistake especially if you are new to their platform or even on gambling scene so right now we can really say that its important to read the TOS of the casino so that we will not be called those unwanted words and we have some idea about those implementations they have done.

[yudi09]

So if you like sports, dont deposit here. Any other bookie in here has a more functional sportsbook.

I've never played so I don't know what the situation would be like if you played on Trustdice that you mean. We as players want a betting site that is fast to access and hassle-free when making deposits and withdrawals.
If the betting site you mean is bad and you are uncomfortable playing because of the problems mentioned, there are many other big and reputable betting sites that you can play on.

THIS IS NOT A SCAM ACCUSATION.

When you create this topic, you are conveying bad things about this betting site to the public.

[Haunebu]

If the betting site you mean is bad and you are uncomfortable playing because of the problems mentioned, there are many other big and reputable betting sites that you can play on.

When you create this topic, you are conveying bad things about this betting site to the public.

Don't you think he knows any of this stuff since it's all common sense? He clearly created this thread to vent out his frustrations and helped provide more clarity regarding Trustdice's wagering requirements intentionally or unintentionally.

He did convey bad stuff about the site, but they are all facts that their team acknowledged themselves.

[Hispo]

If the betting site you mean is bad and you are uncomfortable playing because of the problems mentioned, there are many other big and reputable betting sites that you can play on.

When you create this topic, you are conveying bad things about this betting site to the public.

Don't you think he knows any of this stuff since it's all common sense? He clearly created this thread to vent out his frustrations and helped provide more clarity regarding Trustdice's wagering requirements intentionally or unintentionally.

He did convey bad stuff about the site, but they are all facts that their team acknowledged themselves.

Yes. I mean, creating a thread for anyone user to express their feelings and their reviews on any specific casino seems like a quite valid use of this section to me.
We could argue that those threads which are supposed to discuss punctual things we do not like about an specific casino and which could be improved and let others to know about them  may be posted in that casino's ANN instead, however, to me that would not have the same impact of creating a brand new thread to discuss the topic. People would not pay as much as attention of the issue as expressed in a single post within the ANN and the frustration will end up being ignored or displaced by the regular talk of the members of the forum interested on the casino's activities and events.
Threads like this one are not supposed to be Scam accusation or direct attacks against a service, it is about transparency and improving the standards of this industry, so in the future we won't continue to see new casinos with quite good games and features being spoiled by high wager requirements before withdrawals.  

[terciduk123]

New trustdice users seem to need to thank you, thanks to your refiew Trustdice team has changed their policy.

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In order to make a withdrawal you must wager 5x from the deposit amount

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Hi GxSTxV and everyone else,


TrustDice official rep here!

We’d love to bring it to your attention that we have recently amended the related terms. The 5x wagering requirement currently only applies to the first deposit made by a new player. For all the other deposits, there is literally no wager requirement at all.

To put this in context, let's say I'm a new player at TrustDice and I made a 400 USDT 1st deposit, which I soon lost to the house. I then made a second deposit of 1000 USDT, wagered it 1.6 times, and hit some winnings. At this point, say there is 2000 USDT in the balance. Now I made the decision to withdraw these 1400 USDT.

This withdrawal will be approved, unless of course, other red flags or other violations appear - but in that case it will have nothing to do the wager requirement clause.


Thank you,
TrustDice Team

Because the requirement to make wager 5x from the deposit amount before making a withdrawal is quite troublesome, if lucky we get a profit otherwise our money is hanging out

[Coinbox1]

This is gonna be our last reply to this thread. We would like to point out that some misinformation is being spread here and we have made a clarification separately.

Our ToS reads:
5.10 In order to make a withdrawal, a player must wager at least 5x the 1st deposit amount from deposits.

Some people are being misled to believe that x5 wager requirement applies to all deposits. This is simply false and many have debunked it after reading our actual ToS. This 5x wager requirement only applies to the first deposit. Players will have no wager requirement at all for the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 100th deposit.

We would appreciate if any forum admin can intervene and lock this thread where people are being misled to believe in something totally false here.

Thank you.
TrustDice Team

[yudi09]

If the betting site you mean is bad and you are uncomfortable playing because of the problems mentioned, there are many other big and reputable betting sites that you can play on.

When you create this topic, you are conveying bad things about this betting site to the public.

Don't you think he knows any of this stuff since it's all common sense? He clearly created this thread to vent out his frustrations and helped provide more clarity regarding Trustdice's wagering requirements intentionally or unintentionally.

He did convey bad stuff about the site, but they are all facts that their team acknowledged themselves.

It's up to him whether he wants to put together any words to tell what he experienced about the casino site. A simple thought that makes sense for a professional gambling player to vent all his frustrations is to do it on the casino's ANN thread because the casino in question has representatives on this forum.
I only invite you to put forward wise thoughts.

I can understand the content written by the OP, but in the part marked in bold he says this is not an accusation of scam.
That's why I don't want to comment more on casinos that I have never played, including responding to your post. 

[Fivestar4everMVP]

If the betting site you mean is bad and you are uncomfortable playing because of the problems mentioned, there are many other big and reputable betting sites that you can play on.

When you create this topic, you are conveying bad things about this betting site to the public.

Don't you think he knows any of this stuff since it's all common sense? He clearly created this thread to vent out his frustrations and helped provide more clarity regarding Trustdice's wagering requirements intentionally or unintentionally.

He did convey bad stuff about the site, but they are all facts that their team acknowledged themselves.

It's up to him whether he wants to put together any words to tell what he experienced about the casino site. A simple thought that makes sense for a professional gambling player to vent all his frustrations is to do it on the casino's ANN thread because the casino in question has representatives on this forum.
I only invite you to put forward wise thoughts.

I can understand the content written by the OP, but in the part marked in bold he says this is not an accusation of scam.
That's why I don't want to comment more on casinos that I have never played, including responding to your post. 

I think in matters like this, some or most will always prefer to create a new thread instead of post their complaint as a comment on the casino's thread,  and this I personally believe is for visibility purposes, a post on casinos official ann thread won't get as much visibility and arouse as much interest as possible from gamblers, compared to when the post is posted as a thread of its own, example is that, this thread already has 4 pages and still counting, which tells us that, alot of people have seen this thread and commenting.
But assume the op posted this on the casinos official ann thread, not many users would have seen it and by now, gamblers would have moved one with other discussions that is completely different from this.

So, in the nutshell, I think that, even though casinos have their ann thread for users to complain about anything on, it is still not a bad idea for a user to choose to create a new thread for their complaints, depending on the gravity of the complain and how much visibility the users wants his complain to get.

[redsun114]

the fact that the max withdrawal each day is $5,000 and $15,000/weeks is another rape for users, if you get a big win you will not even be able to take the money, so, there are multiple reasons to avoid this casino.

Do they have a levelling system where users with more overall wagers have a higher level or something? If that is the case, the $5,000 per day requirement might be for lower levels and it might increase as you go higher in levels. However, even if that is the case, I also don't think it's fair because a person on the first level might hit a big win if they make a high bet and there is no point in winning big if you can't withdraw the whole amount if it's above $5,000.

Most platforms would simply ask for extra verification or something when you try to withdraw a large amount and if you do that successfully, you can withdraw the funds without any issues. They should also do the same thing. For someone who tries to withdraw higher than $5,000, they should ask them for more verification and stuff.

[Wiwo]

This is gonna be our last reply to this thread. We would like to point out that some misinformation is being spread here and we have made a clarification separately.

I think you guys have done noble enough and we all respect the decision to make this comment the last comment on this issues,  to be honest with you,  trusdice have one of the most friendly and unique wagering requirement and only those who may have not likely read through the tos will fine it confusing just like the ops who is creating a case out of what I can say a lack of ability to understand a simple set rules by a company.

Why many see the wagering requirement as high when the see 5x is because they may believe that,  they will have to do a 5x wagering on each and all of they deposites along the way but that is not the case and only a one time 5x on first deposits is much more likely to be ok with any players who really understand how the system works by reading through the tos.