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But actually unexpected things may happen due to media action, they can say that millions of bitcointalk users have to plan withdrawals on crypto exchanges. But that's just something that doesn't seem to worry too much.
Do you think that the mainstream media take this forum as a relevant place for their source of information? In addition, the number of active users, including all beginners, is several thousand, and the number of registered users is completely irrelevant - here you can view the statistics for the past 7 days. I cannot say how many more people visit the forum as guests, but even if it is a few thousand regular visitors, it is still very far from a number that would have a significant impact on some global changes.
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November 20, 2022, 03:14:07 PM |
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But actually unexpected things may happen due to media action, they can say that millions of bitcointalk users have to plan withdrawals on crypto exchanges. But that's just something that doesn't seem to worry too much.
Do you think that the mainstream media take this forum as a relevant place for their source of information? In addition, the number of active users, including all beginners, is several thousand, and the number of registered users is completely irrelevant - here you can view the statistics for the past 7 days. I cannot say how many more people visit the forum as guests, but even if it is a few thousand regular visitors, it is still very far from a number that would have a significant impact on some global changes. No matter how many planned to do so, banks has no right to stop you from withdrawing your funds unless you have a contract with telling that you cannot. That is your money in the first place. But however, this is just a manifestation of worries from what happened. There's no need to pani, just be mindful of your holdings and actions to avoid being a victim of phising sites or fake applications or wallets. Also, not all people would pull their fiat assets to put it in this industry because that will also mean that they have risked those amounts already from the possibility of losng. The idea of OP is there which is to take full accountability of your money. But no matter how you secure it on cold and even physical wallet, if you'd be somehow negligent, it can still be got from you.
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November 20, 2022, 03:31:53 PM |
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The dependecy of CEX will never fade away. No matter how things screed people will use CEX again. How people can resist so much service getting from one place. Its human nature that they wants everything in a easy way and secure way. It's also human nature that they forget their past experience very quickly. So just stop panicking and be more focused on the market.
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November 22, 2022, 10:03:24 AM |
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The dependecy of CEX will never fade away. No matter how things screed people will use CEX again. How people can resist so much service getting from one place. Its human nature that they wants everything in a easy way and secure way. It's also human nature that they forget their past experience very quickly. So just stop panicking and be more focused on the market.
The heavy dependancy of CEXs will exist as long as fiat currencies exist — which is, pretty much forever. Our only hope is that hopefully the reliance on CEXs will decrease significantly as Bitcoin/crypto adoption growns in the long-term.
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The dependecy of CEX will never fade away. No matter how things screed people will use CEX again. How people can resist so much service getting from one place. Its human nature that they wants everything in a easy way and secure way. It's also human nature that they forget their past experience very quickly. So just stop panicking and be more focused on the market.
The heavy dependancy of CEXs will exist as long as fiat currencies exist — which is, pretty much forever. Our only hope is that hopefully the reliance on CEXs will decrease significantly as Bitcoin/crypto adoption growns in the long-term. I think that as crypto becomes more popular, the popularity of cex will grow. After all, you can exchange any coins there without any commission and use fiat money. For the user, it does not really matter whether it is dex or cex. For him the main thing is convenience. And dex is still very far behind. Especially when the cunning Binance is the monopoly in the industry.
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November 22, 2022, 10:17:42 AM |
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So you're saying nothing changed! Exchanges were never safe, cold storage was always the best to hodl. No need to panic, some people just have to learn the hard way.
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November 23, 2022, 04:17:33 PM |
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So you're saying nothing changed! Exchanges were never safe, cold storage was always the best to hodl. No need to panic, some people just have to learn the hard way.
If you love your hard earned money, then yes you need to follow these steps. Exchanges were defamed earlier due to the exit scams. This time it wasn’t different also. So yes if you have good amount of Cryptos and really care about it, then at first you should think of moving it to a cold storage or hardware wallet. Electrum will be best according to me, as it’s features and security are great. This suggestion is for everyone present out there. Now to follow or not, it’s completely a user’s choice.
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Also, remember we're in a recession, and the last time we had a recession some banks had to get bailed out, and some just collapsed. So, check whether your government covers you for a certain amount of money in a bank account, otherwise I wouldn't trust your bank any more than an exchange, and I'd prefer to have Bitcoin controlled by myself. Most Western countries I believe have some sort of protection for banks going bust. I believe it's either £75,000 or £85,000 in the UK. That's for each bank, unless they're controlled by the same company.
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Stop this panic, everyone should be aware that the exchange is not a safe depository for their assets. Therefore, they don't have to withdraw their funds because of FTX, but rather the safety of their assets.
Somehow I think the impact of FTX will continue to spread, but don't let it turn into FUD for crypto. I will be making withdrawals not because of FTX or anything else going wrong, but purely because I care about the safety of my assets in the long term.
You are right, panic is not appropriate here. It has always been known that exchanges are not a safe place to store crypto currencies, which was warned many times, but most ignored it until the crash of FTX. Now all of a sudden everyone is fussing about it. This is another hype, but if earlier it was hype for the growth of the price of crypto currencies, now it is a hype for the withdrawal of crypto currencies from exchanges. It was necessary to prepare for this in advance, and not when exchanges freeze funds and block withdrawals. Yes I agree, when I started to buy my crypto this year, I constantly read the recommendations from people here to not store any crypto on an exchange. I made sure to remove my crypto right away but I may not have done it if I didn't read all the people warning about it. This is after I lost 2 bitcoin on the mtgox exchange.
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November 24, 2022, 11:20:03 PM |
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So you're saying nothing changed! Exchanges were never safe, cold storage was always the best to hodl. No need to panic, some people just have to learn the hard way.
Majority had already been aware about the risk but they cant just resist nor avoid on not to make use of these platforms as we do know that there's no other way specially when you are dealing with fiat conversions which means that you do really need up these platforms or service for you to do so.One thing is also having that p2p transactions but we cant just really ignore the fact that exchange service is way more convenient. Even we do say that lots had already been aware of those sayings but still we do decide and choose up to continue to make use of it.
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Also, remember we're in a recession, and the last time we had a recession some banks had to get bailed out, and some just collapsed. So, check whether your government covers you for a certain amount of money in a bank account, otherwise I wouldn't trust your bank any more than an exchange, and I'd prefer to have Bitcoin controlled by myself.
Bear market affects cryptocurrency market and crypto exchanges. The global recession makes all things worse not only cryptocurrency that means we are in a very bad period in history of Bitcoin. It was created after Goldman Sach collapse and that recession and has grown very strong in the past more than one decade. Now it has to be tested in a first recession in its history. I agree that withdraw cryptocurrency to own wallet is great but doing the same for fiat currency into bank accounts is bad idea. Banks can be collapsed too and not all users who store their savings in banks will be compensated or compensated in full.
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Were people really following the proof of keys event each year this wouldn't have happened, but people are lazy and they always prefer to trust others with their money and security. They're used to knowing that there's someone who knows things better and that person should be doing this or that job for you, the way your plumber or electrician fix stuff around the house. The problem with cryptocurrencies is that once you give it away it belongs to someone else. It's not your car that you can park on someone else's yard and come back later.
I've kept my coins on my computer for the last 8 years and I haven't lost a single satoshi.
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I agree that withdraw cryptocurrency to own wallet is great but doing the same for fiat currency into bank accounts is bad idea. Banks can be collapsed too and not all users who store their savings in banks will be compensated or compensated in full.
The risk involving fiat in exchange's hands is that there is a possibility that the exchange becomes insolvent and your money will remain in their possession when they go down or worse when they run away. In other words there isn't really that much difference in this case between cryptocurrencies and fiat when they are both in your exchange account.
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From the beginning we already know that the stock exchange is not a safe place to store assets, but only now have we been preoccupied with this kind of thing. It shouldn't be because FTX or any other exchange is withdrawing assets, but to protect against the eventuality that might happen. We recommend storing assets in a private wallet, as we have access to store private keys, whereas crypto exchanges are wallets provided by exchanges so the private keys are held by them. Personal Wallet- Access is fully controlled by the owner
- The private key is held by itself without being known by other people
- Can do staking and farming through decentralized exchanges
- If the private key is lost, it cannot be used or accessed forever
- Wallet security is the full responsibility of the owner.
Exchange- If the exchange is hacked, the assets we have have the potential to be lost
- Potential for phishing and personal data leakage
Therefore it's not because of FTX or other exchanges, but this is a step to secure the assets that we have, so it's better to choose a personal wallet compared to the Exchange. As has been said theymos Re: Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts
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November 25, 2022, 09:58:30 PM |
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I agree that withdraw cryptocurrency to own wallet is great but doing the same for fiat currency into bank accounts is bad idea. Banks can be collapsed too and not all users who store their savings in banks will be compensated or compensated in full.
The risk involving fiat in exchange's hands is that there is a possibility that the exchange becomes insolvent and your money will remain in their possession when they go down or worse when they run away. In other words there isn't really that much difference in this case between cryptocurrencies and fiat when they are both in your exchange account. As long as you don’t control your money, there’s always a risk on that and that’s why many are rushing to get their hard wallet now because it seems to be the safe option, all you have to do is protect your private keys. Exchanges are not safe even the big one, they are slowly becoming centralized and if the government started to regulate it, you can expect another panic. Store your holdings safely, don’t be a victim of those failed exchanges, i know that feeling and I don’t want to experience it again, buying hard wallet is really worth it.
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November 26, 2022, 08:11:21 AM |
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Honestly I dislike to react to situations by panicking. BUT OP is pretty accurate and his suggestion is very valuable. I was using my money through Binance last year. At least like %90 of my coins were on it. Its dangerous game to play in my opinion. That's why I went with buying Ledger Nano X. Even Binance cannot guarantee my assets will always be safe. I obviously love their "earn" section generating money. I also love to react quickly to ever changing markets. But I feel lot safer since I got my Ledger.
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November 26, 2022, 03:25:56 PM |
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We are fine if we can control our coins and not keep them in the exchanges. I agree with the suggestion from @OP to save it in the cold wallet because that is the safest way to protect our coins from a bad things that can happen with the exchanges. But I am trying not to panic because of much bad news. We need to figure out how to protect our coins. Buying a hardware wallet may help us protect the coins. But you can use an old computer or phone that you don't use and send your coins on that device. You can use the multi wallet to store the coins.
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November 26, 2022, 03:48:52 PM |
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I think this Option is for those who don't trust crypto exchanges. The safest way to store crypto is to keep the currency in a cold wallet. It may not be the most convenient solution, but it is a safe one, given the prevalence of hacks and scams in the world of cryptocurrencies. I think it's a good time to start testing the cold storage and semi-cold storage features found on some popular exchanges and wallets.
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November 26, 2022, 11:58:24 PM |
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Do you think that the mainstream media take this forum as a relevant place for their source of information?
The funny thing is I recently was reading a big News org website, might have been CNN or similar but a massive mainstream place front page news I always scan the popular stories to catch general sentiment and they went through the details of somebody caught laundering stolen exchange funds. It did reference this forum because the person caught posted here and on reddit also; both those places can be relevant when we're talking in terms of billions then it starts be an issue the whole of society might reference somewhere fairly specific even here. In fact this forum is significant and associated with the beginnings of Bitcoin probably forever, I agree most of the population might not realize that but it is the case its relevant for any discussion for crypto historically and probably going forward also.
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November 27, 2022, 11:34:51 AM |
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~snip~ In fact this forum is significant and associated with the beginnings of Bitcoin probably forever, I agree most of the population might not realize that but it is the case its relevant for any discussion for crypto historically and probably going forward also.
I agree that this forum is an extremely valuable source of information and a very important part of Bitcoin history, but that the concept of a forum is not something that today's generations are happy to accept. Unfortunately, they seek information and get advice on various social networks where it is much easier to manipulate information, and therefore many have a very distorted image of Bitcoin. What I tried to say is that it is unlikely that a post on this forum will affect anything important in the sense that it will move millions in a certain direction, as some mainstream media can do. If you look at the proof-of-reserve data published by various CEXs these days, it turns out that millions of BTC are still in their possession, which means that even after everything that happened, most of their users did not react - or they are not telling the truth.
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