Is Roshtein fake money streamer or not?

[dothebeats]

Most gambling streamers are paid every stream, so there is a possibility that Roshtein has the same deal as the others that are doing the said content on their channels. You simply won't down a lot of money in something that you are endorsing, because that is counter-intuitive. Instead, you'll want to get money from that endorsement while creating content for them. That is the most logical thing to do, and it would be no surprise if this is the case. They just want to show you how 'good' it is to play on these platforms, but they don't want to put their money on the line—especially if they are known personalities already.

[seoincorporation]

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I don't feel like Train is 100% honest man. Sure, he might use his own money, but if he is 100% reimbursed then he isn't really risking anything. It would be much different if he was not reimbursed for all of his losses. I don't think he would sit back max betting for 3 days high on drugs if he was incurring the losses.

He plays with his own money, that's a fact, but he get a huge amount from the casino just by promoting it, i don't doubt he is one of the guys with the bigger pay check each month because his streams are for long periods, and apart from the deal with the casino for sure he gets another huge income from the affiliates. So, he can lose some millions but that doesn't mean bankruptcy for him.

[ultrloa]

AFAİK, Roshtein like other slot streamers have special contract with gambling platforms to promote the casino and they get only some percentage of winnings back. Depending on contact conditions, some streamers like Trainwreckstv are paid over mln dollar per contract. Undoubtedly Roshtein has used balance funded by Stake team, otherwise he should be billionaire spinning slots with $2500 per round.

Streamers are taking advantage of their followers, so most probably most of them already have contract with the site but after this recent update with Twitch, maybe the site terminated the contract and to avoid any further promotions, that streamer deleted all the videos to be fair for both parties. Well, what can we expect from the streamer? Most of them are doing it for money you’re lucky enough if you see real streamer and not the biased streamer.

No streamers will stream for free so its undeniable that they do that for money. And they just smart guy using their influence to gain more money, but what most important for their followers is not to take much what those streamers doing since if they live on fantasy that they can earn huge money because they could mess around. Streamers are doing there job and  that is to make money also to became more famous in the industry so that more promotion will come to them.

Latest twitch updates hurt them really bas but I guess they can find ways to continue their business and they will just find alternative platform to do that.

[Desmong]

Guys, what u think about it?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

I think you need to check your because I have had about him before and I believe he is a smart gambler with some skills when playing bets. Although it is too obvious that most of the these streamers are mostly linked a casino that pays them some percentages for their streaming lifestyle. You can check many of his videos so you can have more convictions.

[mak013]

The opinion depends on do you like him or not As for me, i don`t follow Roshtein and can`t say anything about him but i know that some streamers use real money for their streams and even if they lose, they get much more - some of them have contracts with casinos, so it is possible that they don`t want to stream for free if the casino stopped payments.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

  - I've been watching Roshtein, there's a lot of content that's been done on Facebook and other social media platforms. I once watched some of his live streaming on the Facebook platform, as far as I know, he has more than 800k followers on Facebook, I don't know about other social media platforms.

Now about your question in the title here if he is a fake streamer or not? This is just from my research, I think he is a fake streamer because according to what I watched on his Livestream if you look at everything, the bet he places wins, he doesn't even lose, even if he only loses 1%, then the lowest bet its 300$ and up.

So sometimes I think, maybe in every casino that he does live streaming he is paid, the casino owner may have talked to him that they will release a house edge that he will always win so that they can attract more gamblers to their platform. Then the ones he won are not really what he can bring home but only at the price they just negotiated. It's like common sense because you're a casino owner and then the house edge doesn't even do anything to beat Roshtein often, it's not realistic for me, let's just talk real.

But in fairness, many people still believe in what he does. Except for me, I don't believe and I doubt, that's why I said that he is just a fake streamer.

[virasisog]

The opinion depends on do you like him or not As for me, i don`t follow Roshtein and can`t say anything about him but i know that some streamers use real money for their streams and even if they lose, they get much more - some of them have contracts with casinos, so it is possible that they don`t want to stream for free if the casino stopped payments.

I have watched some of his video streams and I actually admire his skills in gambling. A part of me still doubts his winnings but I feel entertained with it. It's possible that he uses fake bets and just streams to promote the casino. We all know that most streamers focus on earning but for sure, there will also be times when they use their own funds. It's a bad thing for them that a huge platform like Twitch has banned gambling streamers but they can still stream through other platforms and promote casinos.

[darkangel11]

The opinion depends on do you like him or not As for me, i don`t follow Roshtein and can`t say anything about him but i know that some streamers use real money for their streams and even if they lose, they get much more - some of them have contracts with casinos, so it is possible that they don`t want to stream for free if the casino stopped payments.

Same here. Don't watch him, don't follow him. I know who he is though. Probably everybody who had anything to do with gambling streams does because he's very popular there, but if you don't watch streams at all you won't ever get to see this guy. Gambling streaming is still a niche within the streaming community, which itself is a niche in the social media.

I agree with the video and think he's not doing it with his own money, but does it make him fake? The plays are real, you can see him winning or losing for real, just not his own money, or not 100% his money. He can agree to bet x amount of money in a contract and if he loses the casino covers loss up to a certain point.

[Eureka_07]

Now about your question in the title here if he is a fake streamer or not? This is just from my research, I think he is a fake streamer because according to what I watched on his Livestream if you look at everything, the bet he places wins, he doesn't even lose, even if he only loses 1%, then the lowest bet its 300$ and up.

Fake streamer? Only loses by 1%? Can you tell me how have you done your research?

I have seen a lot of losing streaks of Rosh for many days. In fact, he does lose a lot more than he is winning. Now, if you only have seen those CLIPS that he is winning, then that's not enough to support your analogy.
I do not claim that Roshtein is not funded by Stake for his casino streams, in fact, I'm open to knowing more about the truth. However, regardless if he uses his own money or uses the casino's fund, he's still the best gambler-steamer on Twitch

I don't get people here that just tell others to not watch him.
Well, it's your opinion, I do respect that.

[ryzaadit]

Fake streamer? Only loses by 1%? Can you tell me how have you done your research?

Depends on the deal between casinos.

Most of streamer/YouTuber offering their service because they have influencer power, and how the deal is made is depends by both of them. Here a few deals casino:
- Fully funded balance by casino (You cannot withdraw the money you're won, or there has some system from the casino to make it real they allowed withdraw the balance only to address has been whitelist & give to the streamer. If you withdraw to other address, is not getting process)

- Paid by % you're win from the casino balance already give

- Streamer/youtuber deposit with their money & casino give more balance (Just like Deposit Promotion), the different only they have less waggering amount comparing to normal user.


By the way, not gonna lie "ALL STREAMER WHO ESPECIALLY BETTING WITH MILLION MONEY" is a fake. It's really simple, they don;'t care how much money they bet & roshtein getting caught during stream with fake money.

Look this for Roshtein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LvuCfBJX0Y the fake money & his real money balance is the same. After he realized doing a mistake, he try to be dumb for the moment.

[Flexystar]

Guys, what u think about it?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

A good number of streamers who are playing with big money are playing on fills and paid either a % of the profit they make per stream or paid a set amount per stream. Each streamer has a different deal. IMO Rosh is a fake money guy. Fact is, we will never 100% know.

I think this matter is about every casino and changes case by case. When we used to play on the Roobet party night on the Twitch, it was all real money. Why would it matter if the money was fake or real considering the fact that streamer was anyway hired by the casino itself and they are going to pay him/her their share of pie as per contract?

I mean whether he loses or wins the money was supposed to go into the hands of casino and in addition to this casino gets huge publicity and engagement right after such steams.

Like in the Roobet, they used to host actual competition during the streaming and had real winners with real money. Definitely they invested for real.

[yahoo62278]

Guys, what u think about it?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

A good number of streamers who are playing with big money are playing on fills and paid either a % of the profit they make per stream or paid a set amount per stream. Each streamer has a different deal. IMO Rosh is a fake money guy. Fact is, we will never 100% know.

I think this matter is about every casino and changes case by case. When we used to play on the Roobet party night on the Twitch, it was all real money. Why would it matter if the money was fake or real considering the fact that streamer was anyway hired by the casino itself and they are going to pay him/her their share of pie as per contract?

I mean whether he loses or wins the money was supposed to go into the hands of casino and in addition to this casino gets huge publicity and engagement right after such steams.

Like in the Roobet, they used to host actual competition during the streaming and had real winners with real money. Definitely they invested for real.

In the long run, it doesn't matter whether it's real or fake. I think it's a bit more enjoyable when it's real money and real emotions shown by the streamer. I enjoy watching the smaller streamers way more than the guys betting 50k on a hand of blackjack.

[serjent05]

In the long run, it doesn't matter whether it's real or fake. I think it's a bit more enjoyable when it's real money and real emotions shown by the streamer. I enjoy watching the smaller streamers way more than the guys betting 50k on a hand of blackjack.

I agree, it feels more connecting when we see streamers that use their own money to gamble in their streams.  We feel the intensity of joy when they hit huge wins and the frustration when the result of the bonus round isn't satisfying, even cursing the slot game where they got nothing  .

I think this matter is about every casino and changes case by case. When we used to play on the Roobet party night on the Twitch, it was all real money. Why would it matter if the money was fake or real considering the fact that streamer was anyway hired by the casino itself and they are going to pay him/her their share of pie as per contract?

I mean whether he loses or wins the money was supposed to go into the hands of casino and in addition to this casino gets huge publicity and engagement right after such steams.

Like in the Roobet, they used to host actual competition during the streaming and had real winners with real money. Definitely they invested for real.

I think it is more about the shown reaction of the streamer.  We know when it was a fake money, almost no reaction at all whenever they hit huge multiplier or no frustration when they get nothing of the most important bonus buy where the situation can turn the game session into a profit. 

It is more like when the streamer uses fake money, there seems to be lacking on the show while those who use their own money on their stream, the stream is filled with emotion that some make the viewer feel what it is like when gambling.

The opinion depends on do you like him or not As for me, i don`t follow Roshtein and can`t say anything about him but i know that some streamers use real money for their streams and even if they lose, they get much more - some of them have contracts with casinos, so it is possible that they don`t want to stream for free if the casino stopped payments.

I have watched some of his video streams and I actually admire his skills in gambling. A part of me still doubts his winnings but I feel entertained with it. It's possible that he uses fake bets and just streams to promote the casino. We all know that most streamers focus on earning but for sure, there will also be times when they use their own funds. It's a bad thing for them that a huge platform like Twitch has banned gambling streamers but they can still stream through other platforms and promote casinos.

Which skill in gambling does he show?  I watched his videos but it looks like an ordinary streaming to me.  Since he is always into a slots, I believe there is no skill to see there.

[Porfirii]

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I am a follower of Roshtein. From my perspective, I can say that he is a genius at his craft. I actually want to see more of him streaming. So I know the fact that there are various deals between casino and the streamer. Regardless, based from my conclusion everytime I watch his streams, I believe that the money that he is spending to play on Stake came from his own pocket.

I know it is hard to believe it. In my case, at first I did not believed that it is a "real" money, but then later on, I am convinced that the money is not fake.  You can see how genuine his reactions are and how he behave on his next day stream almost everytime he had a big loss from his previous stream(s).

This guy, Roshtein, is different from other streamers.

Maybe he is just a better actor than the others. Reactions seem credible, but there is very professional people out there that can make the public believe what they want.

Chances are that we'll never know whether he was a fake streamer or not. But fake or not, it seems that some public enjoyed his content.

[cabron]

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I am a follower of Roshtein. From my perspective, I can say that he is a genius at his craft. I actually want to see more of him streaming. So I know the fact that there are various deals between casino and the streamer. Regardless, based from my conclusion everytime I watch his streams, I believe that the money that he is spending to play on Stake came from his own pocket.

I know it is hard to believe it. In my case, at first I did not believed that it is a "real" money, but then later on, I am convinced that the money is not fake.  You can see how genuine his reactions are and how he behave on his next day stream almost everytime he had a big loss from his previous stream(s).

This guy, Roshtein, is different from other streamers.

Maybe he is just a better actor than the others. Reactions seem credible, but there is very professional people out there that can make the public believe what they want.

Chances are that we'll never know whether he was a fake streamer or not. But fake or not, it seems that some public enjoyed his content.

I wasn't really aware of him until this thread. I just watch one of his videos and he seems a showman focusing more on crypto casinos. Highrollers in crypto are not very odd, we've seen users betting thousands. But it is not also hard to believe they were hired because like they said, a casino like Stake benefits from his show by promoting them and streaming flow of money to the casino while Roshtein earns as well.

[ralle14]

I have watched some of his video streams and I actually admire his skills in gambling. A part of me still doubts his winnings but I feel entertained with it. It's possible that he uses fake bets and just streams to promote the casino. We all know that most streamers focus on earning but for sure, there will also be times when they use their own funds. It's a bad thing for them that a huge platform like Twitch has banned gambling streamers but they can still stream through other platforms and promote casinos.

Even though it feels fake I also find them entertaining at the very least and some streamers still do gambling streams on Twitch but they're only limited to Poker and sports betting which aren't that enjoyable for most viewers unlike the slots and table games.

- Streamer/youtuber deposit with their money & casino give more balance (Just like Deposit Promotion), the different only they have less waggering amount comparing to normal user.

I remember Train mentioned this in one of his streams but he was vague about it and only said that whenever he'd put in a certain amount of money the casino would double or triple that amount.

[gunhell16]

Now about your question in the title here if he is a fake streamer or not? This is just from my research, I think he is a fake streamer because according to what I watched on his Livestream if you look at everything, the bet he places wins, he doesn't even lose, even if he only loses 1%, then the lowest bet its 300$ and up.

Fake streamer? Only loses by 1%? Can you tell me how have you done your research?

I have seen a lot of losing streaks of Rosh for many days. In fact, he does lose a lot more than he is winning. Now, if you only have seen those CLIPS that he is winning, then that's not enough to support your analogy.
I do not claim that Roshtein is not funded by Stake for his casino streams, in fact, I'm open to knowing more about the truth. However, regardless if he uses his own money or uses the casino's fund, he's still the best gambler-steamer on Twitch

I don't get people here that just tell others to not watch him.
Well, it's your opinion, I do respect that.

As you said, that's just his opinion, Yes, I agree with him that he often watches Rosh live streaming winning, but maybe he was just wrong that Rosh only loses 1%. The beauty of what you said is that you still respect his opinion.

Now, let's go back to Rosh, isn't this what Rosh is doing, maybe before he opened live streaming, the owner of the casino or his teams talked about what Rosh should do. Rosh can show that it's his money, but is it the money of the casino platform he's promoting? There's a big possibility that he's real and it's just a scripted one, where at the end of the day the money he's talking about isn't real and he won't admit it because he's paid by the casino owner, what do you think? this is just based on my observation and analogy.

Good day to you

[ethereumhunter]

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I am a follower of Roshtein. From my perspective, I can say that he is a genius at his craft. I actually want to see more of him streaming. So I know the fact that there are various deals between casino and the streamer. Regardless, based from my conclusion everytime I watch his streams, I believe that the money that he is spending to play on Stake came from his own pocket.

I know it is hard to believe it. In my case, at first I did not believed that it is a "real" money, but then later on, I am convinced that the money is not fake.  You can see how genuine his reactions are and how he behave on his next day stream almost everytime he had a big loss from his previous stream(s).

This guy, Roshtein, is different from other streamers.

Maybe he is just a better actor than the others. Reactions seem credible, but there is very professional people out there that can make the public believe what they want.

Chances are that we'll never know whether he was a fake streamer or not. But fake or not, it seems that some public enjoyed his content.

There are still many possibilities, whether he is a better actor or just acting, to entice gamblers to follow him to gamble. We will never know about this unless he deliberately goes public that he uses his own money to gamble and wants to provide a stream that entertains his audience. Apart from all that, those of us who watch it must be able to act wisely and don't need to immediately follow it and use our money because we have to be careful in using the money for gambling.

[mak013]

The opinion depends on do you like him or not As for me, i don`t follow Roshtein and can`t say anything about him but i know that some streamers use real money for their streams and even if they lose, they get much more - some of them have contracts with casinos, so it is possible that they don`t want to stream for free if the casino stopped payments.

Same here. Don't watch him, don't follow him. I know who he is though. Probably everybody who had anything to do with gambling streams does because he's very popular there, but if you don't watch streams at all you won't ever get to see this guy. Gambling streaming is still a niche within the streaming community, which itself is a niche in the social media.

I agree with the video and think he's not doing it with his own money, but does it make him fake? The plays are real, you can see him winning or losing for real, just not his own money, or not 100% his money. He can agree to bet x amount of money in a contract and if he loses the casino covers loss up to a certain point.

Streamers work for money. If he get not enough money from stream - he get them from company. He can use money that he get due to contract, possible that casino gives him some money for gambling but i can`t call it "fake money" if he win - he got real money. How did he get it - it is another question and it isn`t about "fake money" as for me.

[swogerino]

Guys, what u think about it?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

A good number of streamers who are playing with big money are playing on fills and paid either a % of the profit they make per stream or paid a set amount per stream. Each streamer has a different deal. IMO Rosh is a fake money guy. Fact is, we will never 100% know.

I also believe to be a fake money streamer but he is not bold enough to acknowledge it while for example Bigwinboard which is another streamer of slot machines playing in the streams they do they say that this session was played with FUN money just to show you what this x slot is capable of paying,they play at maximum bet which anyone can do in FUN mode but at least they say it to you.

So I believe Roshtein must be sponsored by the slot providers or different casinos which I highly believe to be the case,nevertheless he is one of those guys who instill confidence to people watching his streams,so despite him being sponsored or fake it is useful for at least one thing.