Is Roshtein fake money streamer or not?

[rodskee]

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

Let your friend said that and let your feeling believe on it , but the thing here is that He already stopped streaming so what is the main concern here ? considering that he is fake money streamer , what would you wanted to stablish here?
its already off so better leave it that way, and besides this is a trend in online casino , fake money using and fake people advertising for the site what we could get even worst?

[dezoel]

Fake streamer? Only loses by 1%? Can you tell me how have you done your research?

I have seen a lot of losing streaks of Rosh for many days. In fact, he does lose a lot more than he is winning. Now, if you only have seen those CLIPS that he is winning, then that's not enough to support your analogy.
I do not claim that Roshtein is not funded by Stake for his casino streams, in fact, I'm open to knowing more about the truth. However, regardless if he uses his own money or uses the casino's fund, he's still the best gambler-steamer on Twitch

I don't get people here that just tell others to not watch him.
Well, it's your opinion, I do respect that.

It could be that the moment he watch the stream, rosh is on its lucky day therefore most of his bets are a win. This is something that is possible but can happen rarely. I am not a fan of watching gambling streams but I am curious on why can you say that roshtein is the best streamer?

When I think all of them are just the same, they will just place a bet and push that roll button but maybe you find this streamer not boring and he is also sharing some of his blessing in the stream. There are streamers who are also not boring but I think they ended up overacting about their losses and their winnings. Something tells me that these streamers are fake.

[uneng]

Streamers work for money. If he get not enough money from stream - he get them from company. He can use money that he get due to contract, possible that casino gives him some money for gambling but i can`t call it "fake money" if he win - he got real money. How did he get it - it is another question and it isn`t about "fake money" as for me.

Or he use his referrals' income to gamble. Since there are million of subscribers and even more views, I believe he must make a huge amount of money reffering gamblers to casinos. In the end he uses this money to gamble on his videos without risking money from his own pocket. It's more like "free money" than "fake money". It's just a possibility, though. We can't confirm anything, because all the informations at our reach are purely speculative.

[mak013]

Streamers work for money. If he get not enough money from stream - he get them from company. He can use money that he get due to contract, possible that casino gives him some money for gambling but i can`t call it "fake money" if he win - he got real money. How did he get it - it is another question and it isn`t about "fake money" as for me.

Or he use his referrals' income to gamble. Since there are million of subscribers and even more views, I believe he must make a huge amount of money reffering gamblers to casinos. In the end he uses this money to gamble on his videos without risking money from his own pocket. It's more like "free money" than "fake money". It's just a possibility, though. We can't confirm anything, because all the informations at our reach are purely speculative.

Oh, i just forget about the referrals. Surely he has huge quantity of referrals and big money from their gambling. And you right that it is "free" money. Or, possible, money that helps to increase income.
Anyway, i think, that it is out of my business where he gets money. And i prefer to think that it is real money until i see proves that it isn`t so.

[boltz]

There have been rumors about this guy since 2019 that is a fake money streamer and was a big thread on reddit about him so I don't know ...the guy is pure entertaining but super mega shady. I have on rule on guys like him ...I don't trust anyone who wears a hat like that ...looks like a wizard and sometimes his charisma will get you so I preferred to never watch him again. Regarding Train...I have no respect for that guy whatsoever. , simply because there are tons of kids watching his stream that can also subscribe to him , when Rosh , doesn't have that feature implemented and I don't think Twitch will ever implement the subscribe button to his channel.

[ethereumhunter]

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

Let your friend said that and let your feeling believe on it , but the thing here is that He already stopped streaming so what is the main concern here ? considering that he is fake money streamer , what would you wanted to stablish here?
its already off so better leave it that way, and besides this is a trend in online casino , fake money using and fake people advertising for the site what we could get even worst?

The casinos may pay those who promote online casinos to attract more people to their casinos. People who see the stream may not know about it and end up visiting the casino because they see the streamer can easily earn money. They think that they can also earn big winnings.

He may just want to ask our opinion about whether it is fake money, money from referrals, or even his own money. We don't need to know that; what is certain is that we are playing with our money. And if we lose, it's our money.

[Hispo]

My rule of thumb is that most of streamers use fake money or a mix of actual funds and bonuses provided by the casino.
If the streamer favors an specific casino over others, it would be easy to assume there is some deal going on behind the scenes, it is the same with those webpages to gamble with Counter Strike skins and cosmetic objects. I have read about cases where very popular youtubers record themselves gambling on platforms they personally ownership over, of course, they do not disclose this fact to their viewers.

[serjent05]

The casinos may pay those who promote online casinos to attract more people to their casinos. People who see the stream may not know about it and end up visiting the casino because they see the streamer can easily earn money. They think that they can also earn big winnings.

It is obvious, when a streamer and a casino had a deal, the casino will provide the bankroll while the streamer promote the gambling platform.  Streamer even flash their affiliate link to track people who signed up under them.  This is also one way for the casino to determine if the marketing is a success.

He may just want to ask our opinion about whether it is fake money, money from referrals, or even his own money. We don't need to know that; what is certain is that we are playing with our money. And if we lose, it's our money.

I think we must know the facts behind the streamers' bankrolls.  Because more often than not, those who are watching the stream will try to emulate the action of the streamer.  Knowing that the money used by streamers is sponsored, then the idea of viewers imitating the streamer will die down.

My rule of thumb is that most of streamers use fake money or a mix of actual funds and bonuses provided by the casino.
If the streamer favors an specific casino over others, it would be easy to assume there is some deal going on behind the scenes, it is the same with those webpages to gamble with Counter Strike skins and cosmetic objects. I have read about cases where very popular youtubers record themselves gambling on platforms they personally ownership over, of course, they do not disclose this fact to their viewers.

True, if a streamer favors a casino or always plays on the same casino in his stream, there is a huge possibility that the streamer is sponsored and that the money he is using to wager is from the casino and not from his own pocket. Those who are not sponsored by casino will play in different casino in order to search for his lucky platform where he can win easily.

[ethereumhunter]

The casinos may pay those who promote online casinos to attract more people to their casinos. People who see the stream may not know about it and end up visiting the casino because they see the streamer can easily earn money. They think that they can also earn big winnings.

It is obvious, when a streamer and a casino had a deal, the casino will provide the bankroll while the streamer promote the gambling platform.  Streamer even flash their affiliate link to track people who signed up under them.  This is also one way for the casino to determine if the marketing is a success.

Yes, it will be an advantage for both parties because the streamer can freely play with the casino's money. In contrast, the casino benefits from visitors who come through the streamer. Through this promotion, both of them can develop and streamers can become even more popular while casinos will also feel it.

He may just want to ask our opinion about whether it is fake money, money from referrals, or even his own money. We don't need to know that; what is certain is that we are playing with our money. And if we lose, it's our money.

I think we must know the facts behind the streamers' bankrolls.  Because more often than not, those who are watching the stream will try to emulate the action of the streamer.  Knowing that the money used by streamers is sponsored, then the idea of viewers imitating the streamer will die down.

The viewing given by the streamer will attract curious people to try playing at the casino where the streamer plays. And they will use more money, especially if they lose at gambling. They will be even more curious about the results and make more deposits. This is an advantage for the casino because the promotion carried out by the streamer has succeeded in attracting these people.

[South Park]

Streamers work for money. If he get not enough money from stream - he get them from company. He can use money that he get due to contract, possible that casino gives him some money for gambling but i can`t call it "fake money" if he win - he got real money. How did he get it - it is another question and it isn`t about "fake money" as for me.

Or he use his referrals' income to gamble. Since there are million of subscribers and even more views, I believe he must make a huge amount of money reffering gamblers to casinos. In the end he uses this money to gamble on his videos without risking money from his own pocket. It's more like "free money" than "fake money". It's just a possibility, though. We can't confirm anything, because all the informations at our reach are purely speculative.

Oh, i just forget about the referrals. Surely he has huge quantity of referrals and big money from their gambling. And you right that it is "free" money. Or, possible, money that helps to increase income.
Anyway, i think, that it is out of my business where he gets money. And i prefer to think that it is real money until i see proves that it isn`t so.

If those are your views then that is fine with me, however I do care about the source of the funds of those streamers and that is because anyone that has ever gambled with play money knows, it is simply not the same, and that also is true when it comes to the person you are watching how they gamble, if they are given all of that money by a casino then all of that excitement they are supposedly feeling when they win or that sadness when they lose is fake, and if that is the case I might as well watch something else.

[Zackgeno96]

In the end, streamers get paid so much money for a reason to view certain websites and/or products. But I think there is also some truth to it and what they say. Depending on the industry in which they are involved, of course. I can't imagine a gambling site wanting to pay eur 10,000 for an honest review of a streamer, for example. Nowadays that is with streaming and extremely effective marketing method.

[goldkingcoiner]

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

He may very well be. Unless we have evidence there is no way of finding out. I do not think that the policy update on twitch is somehow meant for Roshtein alone. There has to be a better reason for their new rules. They allow some streaming of some betting but not other types. They also allow some casinos but not the ones mentioned in the list. Makes you wonder what exactly they are looking to avoid.

As far as the streamer Roshtein goes, I do not think there are any laws against him streaming for "entertainment purposes" as long as he does not give financial advice or promise returns on investments.

Never heard of gambling streamers getting in trouble with any regulators...

[serjent05]

Searching for clues on the internet about whether Roshtein is a fake money streamer or not produces conflicting articles.  There are articles that states that Roshetein is not a fake streamer and even enumerates the myth belief of people. It is kinda interesting but the article sounds like a release specifically to justify Roshtein actions.  If you are interested on the article you can click it here.

So what are these myth belief that the article is talking about?  To list it here:

Myth #1: Roshtein plays with fake money
Source: Is Roshtein Fake? Debunking Myths About the Most Popular Casino Streamer of 2021 | Gambling News Stories and Latest Online Casino News
Issue why Roshtein is labeled using fake money

All discussions of Roshtein’s alleged fake money playing start with the Practice mode video.  In 2019, during a regular stream, a Twitch viewer asked Roshtein if he was playing for real cash or in the slot’s free demo mode using fake money.  In reply, Roshtein said he was playing for real money. In order to prove this, he decided to open one of the casino slots in demo mode.  Then the unexpected happened.  His balance in the demo mode was equal to 22k euros, the same as when he played for real cash.

Sadly the video on this is taken down.

Explanation of the writer:

Is the Practice mode video proof of Roshtein being fake? Let’s think critically for a second. If Roshtein was a fake blogger, would he risk losing his entire audience in a few seconds? After all, no one forced him to open the free demo mode. He simply decided to show one of the viewers what it looks like. What did Roshtein say about the Practice mode video? Roshtein commented on the Practice mode situation in the same VOD. He said he did not understand what happened and that it was some kind of an error.

That is the first myth and the one we are discussing in this thread.  The reason why people believe that Roshtein is a fake money streamer is that he was caught surprised that his account balance is the same in both Demo and Real gameplay.  That is really one huge piece of evidence that the balance of Roshtein is coming from the casino.  I think the casino later explain that it was just a glitch but in my point of view, it is impossible to have such a glitch unless the Casino has done something to meddle with the balance.  The article writer's explanation is a bullcrap IMO. 

[rodskee]

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

Let your friend said that and let your feeling believe on it , but the thing here is that He already stopped streaming so what is the main concern here ? considering that he is fake money streamer , what would you wanted to stablish here?
its already off so better leave it that way, and besides this is a trend in online casino , fake money using and fake people advertising for the site what we could get even worst?

The casinos may pay those who promote online casinos to attract more people to their casinos. People who see the stream may not know about it and end up visiting the casino because they see the streamer can easily earn money. They think that they can also earn big winnings.

don't worry mate becuase gamblers nowadays knows what the story behind this kind and will never fell from their stupid streaming .

and how come that they keep winning and very few that they lose? that is something unbelievable if you understand gambling that deep.

He may just want to ask our opinion about whether it is fake money, money from referrals, or even his own money. We don't need to know that; what is certain is that we are playing with our money. And if we lose, it's our money.

it is given that this streamer uses fake money as he have connection with those casinos.

[gunhell16]

I can only say with Roshtein's live streaming, the chances are high that before he does a live stream, what he is going to do is scripted, the money he is using may be actually from the casino owner, and it is possible that the owner went through it. fund in Roshtein's bank account, then what the house edge will do on the platform he will play on is they will control how much money Roshtein will win. And after streaming, Roshtein can return the money and the only thing that will be given to him is the amount that they just negotiated.

But this is just my opinion and observation that it is possible that my guess about Roshtein may or may not be correct.

[Kakmakr]

So, what I can say is this :

Every Saturday Eddie from Stake.com host a $50 000 giveaway, which is based on 1 ticket for every $1000 wagered for entry into the giveaway. He then draws the tickets live and when he reads out the 10 x $5000 winners... he indicates if the winner drawn..are an affiliate or not.

The rules of the Giveaway is, if you receive affiliate benefits, then you do not qualify for the $5000 ....and I have seen him draw Roshtein's tickets and then he re-draw that ticket, saying that Roshtein is an affiliate of Stake.com. (He does not specifically say, what those affiliate bonuses are)  

[mak013]

Streamers work for money. If he get not enough money from stream - he get them from company. He can use money that he get due to contract, possible that casino gives him some money for gambling but i can`t call it "fake money" if he win - he got real money. How did he get it - it is another question and it isn`t about "fake money" as for me.

Or he use his referrals' income to gamble. Since there are million of subscribers and even more views, I believe he must make a huge amount of money reffering gamblers to casinos. In the end he uses this money to gamble on his videos without risking money from his own pocket. It's more like "free money" than "fake money". It's just a possibility, though. We can't confirm anything, because all the informations at our reach are purely speculative.

Oh, i just forget about the referrals. Surely he has huge quantity of referrals and big money from their gambling. And you right that it is "free" money. Or, possible, money that helps to increase income.
Anyway, i think, that it is out of my business where he gets money. And i prefer to think that it is real money until i see proves that it isn`t so.

If those are your views then that is fine with me, however I do care about the source of the funds of those streamers and that is because anyone that has ever gambled with play money knows, it is simply not the same, and that also is true when it comes to the person you are watching how they gamble, if they are given all of that money by a casino then all of that excitement they are supposedly feeling when they win or that sadness when they lose is fake, and if that is the case I might as well watch something else.

It`s so, the emotions matter, but what purpose of watching these streams? If you are just getting fun - it doesn`t matter what money it is, just get fun. When you watch the film, you know that all actors playing the role, but you still like the film, isn`t it? And if you want to bet as the streamer - it is bad idea anyway.

[rahmad2nd]

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

In essence, we do not know for sure that he is playing fake money or not. I'm not a Twitch user, so I can't make any conclusions or assumptions based on your story or from the YouTube views that you share. after Twitch bans casinos and streamers from showing their content, the streamers will automatically delete all videos and content containing gambling. so naturally, if he did the same.

I'm not a twitch user, so I don't really know about those streamers. actually on YouTube there are also many streamers who create gambling content, be it slots, dice, roulette, or whatever it is, we cannot conclude that they are playing with fake casino money.  there is no hard evidence to support it. I have a friend, he make his content on youtube channel. his content is gambling, he often streams live when he plays slots, and he uses his own money. so, the conclusion. not all streamers, play with fake money.

[Fortify]

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

Frankly you should assume that anyone who is streaming gambling related content is going to be compensated by a gambling operation in some way. The commissions that gambling companies can afford to pay are some of the highest advertising rates you'll find. If you picture gambling sites are pure money making machines, because players pay so much in and very rarely take anything back out again, every new depositing customer they can get from any source is super valuable. There are lots of different ways it can be "faked" as well, credits simply added to the account so they're never playing with their own money or even an external contract where they get paid a sum to their bank for the service, then deposit it to make it look entirely natural.

[alegotardo]

Guys, what u think about it? Is Roshtein streaming on fake money or not?

I am sure in 101% that he plays fake money, but a lot of friends of mine - said the opposite.

After twitch banned stake and other casinos, he deleted all videos and dont even stream anymore, so its 100% proof they he had deal with stake and use free money to play, what do u think?

https://youtu.be/9X5eSMS_Uow

Most streamers have some "rotten", as it is difficult to do lives frequently and have so many hits to the point of overcoming the risks.
Either with fake money or "sponsored" by the casinos themselves, I don't kid myself with that kind of people anymore and I prefer to place my bets on my own.

If Roshtein plays with counterfeit money? Probably yes, but we'll never know for sure until he makes some oversight or mistake that is noticeable by those watching.