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January 18, 2023, 09:45:30 PM
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I must say that I'm now a Bitcoin addict and an ardent fan/supporter of Satoshi Nakamoto and the good initiative Bitcoin technology has brought to the world. But there are these questions that have been ringing in my head day and night as I continue to be curious about this man/men that brought this revolution to the financial space.

I would like people to furnish me with their views even though I personally believe that he would have been haunted by the world governments at the initial stage.

What could have been his fate if he made himself known from the beginning? And later after Bitcoin is recognized?
He might be a target of all scammers all over the world, especially now that they are aware that bitcoin is very valuable and that Satoshi must have the highest amount of bitcoin hodlings. However, with government opposition even at the present, Satoshi may also face a lot of accusations as he could also be a target of authorities. Although the spotlight is on him, but let’s say not all people would be happy for him.
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January 18, 2023, 09:54:18 PM
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I honestly never know what Satoshi thought about his privacy in bitcoin's early years [when bitcoin was not yet valuable]. We're only speculating about him right now, but he's too smart to keep that up until now. Whether he was male or female, we never really knew until recently.

Making himself famous only put him in danger, but I don't think Satoshi really thought about it in the first place, but quickly changed after bitcoin was in huge demand. Of course this is just my opinion, no need to argue because I'm just a bit logical.
No one would expect that bitcoin will go this far and maybe Satoshi is not an exception. His only goal by then was just to have freedom from fiat currency that’s why he end up inventing bitcoin. But let’s say if he’s known today, not all people will acknowledge him especially those government officials as they will question Satoshi why he invented bitcoin. And since it’s against the law, Satoshi might face his popularity inside the jail.

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January 18, 2023, 09:56:37 PM
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I must say that I'm now a Bitcoin addict and an ardent fan/supporter of Satoshi Nakamoto and the good initiative Bitcoin technology has brought to the world. But there are these questions that have been ringing in my head day and night as I continue to be curious about this man/men that brought this revolution to the financial space.

I would like people to furnish me with their views even though I personally believe that he would have been haunted by the world governments at the initial stage.

What could have been his fate if he made himself known from the beginning? And later after Bitcoin is recognized?
Definitely, he is putting himself in danger. Despite of the acknowledgement and well praises from the bitcoin enthusiasts, the government officials will also be eyeing on him and if they see that Satoshi should be given proper sanction because of bitcoin, then he might stay the rest of his lives being imprisoned. For us, Satoshi is a hero, but for the people from authorities, he’s a threat.

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January 21, 2023, 01:38:03 AM
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If Satoshi was known then there's no doubt that Government would really be trying out their best to get a hold of him and trying to convince or even force him out to stop on what he had created.
It is really that no brainer on what they would do or even kill satoshi to break down the morale of Bitcoin supporters but pretty sure it wont really be that something simple to happen.
It is really good to have on this way on which he decided to remain that anonymous and never tend to come out on the shadows.

Even if they catch Satoshi now, they won't be able to stop Bitcoin because of the way it was designed. The cryptocurrency has a lot of nodes and miners supporting it worldwide, so it would take a lot of time and effort to shut it down for good. Not even Satoshi would be able to do anything about it, as it's all about consensus.

Because Bitcoin is open source, any compromise on the Blockchain could easily trigger a new chain with its own set of rules. It's virtually unstoppable. They only chance governments would've had to stop Bitcoin was back in its very beginnings. Kudos to Satoshi remaining anonymous since day one. I hope he stays that way for the good of Bitcoin and the whole crypto/Blockchain space. Just my thoughts Grin

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January 21, 2023, 03:46:12 AM
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For sure he/she would already taken by government or someone has a bad intention on him. There are a lot of negative aspects if he  reveal his identity before that is why he is very smart to not disclosed any information as it is not only his life would be affected also with his relatives and it was catastrophe on them. I am just also curious right now if the possibility that he is just lurking here in the forum or how old si he now and what he is doing. But where ever satoshi was I am thankful of him
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January 21, 2023, 04:16:11 AM
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If Satoshi was known then there's no doubt that Government would really be trying out their best to get a hold of him and trying to convince or even force him out to stop on what he had created.
It is really that no brainer on what they would do or even kill satoshi to break down the morale of Bitcoin supporters but pretty sure it wont really be that something simple to happen.
It is really good to have on this way on which he decided to remain that anonymous and never tend to come out on the shadows.

Even if they catch Satoshi now, they won't be able to stop Bitcoin because of the way it was designed. The cryptocurrency has a lot of nodes and miners supporting it worldwide, so it would take a lot of time and effort to shut it down for good. Not even Satoshi would be able to do anything about it, as it's all about consensus.

Because Bitcoin is open source, any compromise on the Blockchain could easily trigger a new chain with its own set of rules. It's virtually unstoppable. They only chance governments would've had to stop Bitcoin was back in its very beginnings. Kudos to Satoshi remaining anonymous since day one. I hope he stays that way for the good of Bitcoin and the whole crypto/Blockchain space. Just my thoughts Grin

Now it's too late to stop bitcoin because it has become too big to stop. But if at that time the government catches him, then I think it will be easier for them, it will be a lot easier to stop bitcoin. And I don't think they'll kill him, that's a negative thought. He is a genius, so the government will use his brilliant mind to work for them rather than kill him because if he dies, bitcoin will still live and thrive. In short, no matter what they say, it's too late to stop bitcoin Grin Grin.

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January 21, 2023, 04:36:25 AM
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If he shows up in the first place, he will attract the attention of the government and I am pretty sure they will find a way to get him to stop bitcoin, and most likely, we will not see bitcoin and crypto like nowadays. Or potentially a centralized and government-controlled version of bitcoin. But luckily, that didn't happen, and the government is having a lot of headaches when there is no way to stop bitcoin.

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January 21, 2023, 11:45:49 PM
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If Satoshi was known then there's no doubt that Government would really be trying out their best to get a hold of him and trying to convince or even force him out to stop on what he had created.
It is really that no brainer on what they would do or even kill satoshi to break down the morale of Bitcoin supporters but pretty sure it wont really be that something simple to happen.
It is really good to have on this way on which he decided to remain that anonymous and never tend to come out on the shadows.

Even if they catch Satoshi now, they won't be able to stop Bitcoin because of the way it was designed. The cryptocurrency has a lot of nodes and miners supporting it worldwide, so it would take a lot of time and effort to shut it down for good. Not even Satoshi would be able to do anything about it, as it's all about consensus.

Because Bitcoin is open source, any compromise on the Blockchain could easily trigger a new chain with its own set of rules. It's virtually unstoppable. They only chance governments would've had to stop Bitcoin was back in its very beginnings. Kudos to Satoshi remaining anonymous since day one. I hope he stays that way for the good of Bitcoin and the whole crypto/Blockchain space. Just my thoughts Grin
The government cannot do anything anymore to stop bitcoin because its usage and adoption will be here for good already as even Satoshi don't have its full control anymore. So even if authorities will take on hold to Satoshi and accuse him of how bitcoin destroy fiat and central banks, that won't create any positive result because the bitcoin miners and owners now are now in full control with bitcoin, and not those third party or entities.

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January 22, 2023, 02:05:05 AM
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If satoshi did not stay anonymous from the beginning he would be either dead or imprisoned today, because the threat his invention represent to those in authoritarian positions of power and because his wealth.

There was also the possibility he could have gotten held at gun point by some intelligence agency to undermine Bitcoin's purpose by creating backdoors, etc.
In the end, he showed a big wisdom by staying in the shadows.  

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January 25, 2023, 03:05:28 PM
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If he shows up in the first place, he will attract the attention of the government and I am pretty sure they will find a way to get him to stop bitcoin, and most likely, we will not see bitcoin and crypto like nowadays. Or potentially a centralized and government-controlled version of bitcoin. But luckily, that didn't happen, and the government is having a lot of headaches when there is no way to stop bitcoin.

We have to admit that Bitcoin is unstoppable. Governments can't do anything about it even if they find who Satoshi really is. My guess is that they will try to force Satoshi to sell all of is Bitcoins to cause a huge decline in market prices. After that, most people will lose confidence in BTC as a store of value (especially when they're only focused on making money with it). It will take a long time before BTC recovers back to its original market prices.

While the odds of governments finding Satoshi are slim, we cannot discard this from happening sometime in the future. Bitcoin has been going strong for 14 years now, so I'm confident it will last for generations. Just my thoughts Grin

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February 03, 2023, 05:46:58 PM
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He might be a target of all scammers all over the world, especially now that they are aware that bitcoin is very valuable and that Satoshi must have the highest amount of bitcoin hodlings.
The target by scammers is not even in my head and will not be an issue because the BTC would still be new then. No scammer would dare to steal such, and it's dangerous as it was highly traceable by the inventor since there was no much patronage then. Also, it has a low value at that time, so scammers will not look in his direction.

No one would expect that bitcoin will go this far and maybe Satoshi is not an exception. His only goal by then was just to have freedom from fiat currency that’s why he end up inventing bitcoin.
I don't think his goal is freedom from fiat because no one would be free from fiat, and if that is his goal, then the goal is not yet realized. I believe his goal is privacy and to reduce the dominance of fiat, not to curb it, and it's being actualized with low transaction fees and anonymity of transactions.

We have to admit that Bitcoin is unstoppable. Governments can't do anything about it even if they find who Satoshi really is.
Are you kidding me? You better don't think about it this way, thank goodness that Satoshi was wise enough in his plan. If the whole world government wants to disapprove of crypto today, it will just go to zero patronage immediately. They will block all access points and that ends it.

Now it's too late to stop bitcoin because it has become too big to stop. But if at that time the government catches him, then I think it will be easier for them, it will be a lot easier to stop bitcoin. And I don't think they'll kill him, that's a negative thought. He is a genius, so the government will use his brilliant mind to work for them rather than kill him because if he dies, bitcoin will still live and thrive. In short, no matter what they say, it's too late to stop bitcoin
No government will be after him anymore, and even if they dare to, am sure that world protests would erupt because of him. Bitcoin is not a threat, and other blockchains have evolved and no government is threatening them and their developers, so satoshi is not the bone of contention anymore. It might have been the issue initially, but technology has advanced beyond that.

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February 03, 2023, 07:45:08 PM
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For sure he/she would already taken by government or someone has a bad intention on him. There are a lot of negative aspects if he  reveal his identity before that is why he is very smart to not disclosed any information as it is not only his life would be affected also with his relatives and it was catastrophe on them. I am just also curious right now if the possibility that he is just lurking here in the forum or how old si he now and what he is doing. But where ever satoshi was I am thankful of him
Threats would be waiting for Satoshi if he made himself known from the beginning. Not just from the people who want to take advantage on him, but most likely the government which is very triggered by his own invention that made fiat right now in a negative shape, making bitcoin the top favorite of crypto enthusiasts. But I believe he’d known already that this is going to happen that’s why he chose to stay away from spotlight. Otherwise, he might not be living at peace and satisfaction right now.
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Threats would be waiting for Satoshi if he made himself known from the beginning. Not just from the people who want to take advantage on him, but most likely the government which is very triggered by his own invention that made fiat right now in a negative shape, making bitcoin the top favorite of crypto enthusiasts. But I believe he’d known already that this is going to happen that’s why he chose to stay away from spotlight. Otherwise, he might not be living at peace and satisfaction right now.
The threat is definitely there though I don't think Satoshi has really thought about it. I don't know if Satoshi actually had any special plans to maintain his anonymity in the first place, but the odds ratio seems low since I can assume that maybe 1 or 2 users on this forum know him. Besides, I didn't expect only Satoshi to be involved in this big project, and that's why some assumptions say that Satoshi is the group of people behind bitcoin.

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The threat is definitely there though I don't think Satoshi has really thought about it. I don't know if Satoshi actually had any special plans to maintain his anonymity in the first place, but the odds ratio seems low since I can assume that maybe 1 or 2 users on this forum know him. Besides, I didn't expect only Satoshi to be involved in this big project, and that's why some assumptions say that Satoshi is the group of people behind bitcoin.
You never can tell, this is a matter of extreme privacy and anyone on the forum might not know him, not even @theymos. And truly, Satoshi can never be a single person, and yet the pseudonym is worth it and will always represent the group well no matter how many members they have.

For sure he/she would already taken by government or someone has a bad intention on him. There are a lot of negative aspects if he  reveal his identity before that is why he is very smart to not disclosed any information as it is not only his life would be affected also with his relatives and it was catastrophe on them. I am just also curious right now if the possibility that he is just lurking here in the forum or how old si he now and what he is doing. But where ever satoshi was I am thankful of him
Threats would be waiting for Satoshi if he made himself known from the beginning.
I'm very sure that banks will be part of what would be sponsoring the threat, that is even as the government of many countries would kick against it. Bitcoin was never suspected much at first, but the clampdown would have been much as it gains traction among people. Still, I give the US kudos for staying with cryptocurrency, it would have been a different story if they didn't.

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April 06, 2023, 12:05:34 PM
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Threats would be waiting for Satoshi if he made himself known from the beginning. Not just from the people who want to take advantage on him, but most likely the government which is very triggered by his own invention that made fiat right now in a negative shape, making bitcoin the top favorite of crypto enthusiasts. But I believe he’d known already that this is going to happen that’s why he chose to stay away from spotlight. Otherwise, he might not be living at peace and satisfaction right now.

It is not easy to create an alternative to the existing banking system without facing prosecution from the government or banks themselves. Satoshi knew the risks beforehand, which explains why he never disclosed his identity in the first place. It was a good decision to leave the Bitcoin project in the hands of the community to ensure it remains decentralized and censorship-resistant. Other coins won't be that lucky, especially when most of their founders/creators are widely known by the public. I'm talking about Ethereum's Vitalik Buterin, Cardano's Charles Hoskinson, and Polkadot's Gavin Wood. These projects don't stand a chance against government prosecution in the future.

At any moment, mainstream governments can hunt these founders to try to harm the aforementioned projects for good. Besides, the vast majority of altcoins are centralized. Therefore, it's likely Bitcoin will survive while the rest of the coins will become history. Who knows where Satoshi is right now? Just my opinion Smiley

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April 06, 2023, 01:36:15 PM
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It is not easy to create an alternative to the existing banking system without facing prosecution from the government or banks themselves.
Governments do want to control their citizens and do everything to protect their systems. Even in world of freedom with democracy, governments will not let their citizens to do everything they want and create things to challenge power of governments.

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Satoshi knew the risks beforehand, which explains why he never disclosed his identity in the first place.
Because Satoshi did had a vision that Bitcoin will be able to challenge traditional central bank systems and when it is big enough, governments will try figuring out who is Satoshi Nakamoto.

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It was a good decision to leave the Bitcoin project in the hands of the community to ensure it remains decentralized and censorship-resistant.
His departure gives Bitcoin to community. Nobody can individual affect Bitcoin protocol or can impact community with a single tweet. If Satoshi Nakamoto tweet, his tweets can lift market up and down a lot.

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Other coins won't be that lucky, especially when most of their founders/creators are widely known by the public. I'm talking about Ethereum's Vitalik Buterin, Cardano's Charles Hoskinson, and Polkadot's Gavin Wood. These projects don't stand a chance against government prosecution in the future.
Altcoins are fully controlled by their founders, core teams and technically, those coins can be decided by internal guys. DAO votes are non sense if most of vote powers belong to founders and core teams.

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Bitcoin could have not been presented with different approach just as the way other cryptocurrencies appears being centralized, traceable to a particular entity or group of people, bitcoin is decentralized and serve the only cryptocurrency being decentralized , Satoshi Nakamoto understand the need for privacy and so he begin with maintaining that same privacy with himself being unidentified to the public, if he doesn't, then bitcoin with altcoins couldn't have been on this margin of differences so far.



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April 07, 2023, 08:35:49 PM
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It is not easy to create an alternative to the existing banking system without facing prosecution from the government or banks themselves. Satoshi knew the risks beforehand, which explains why he never disclosed his identity in the first place. It was a good decision to leave the Bitcoin project in the hands of the community to ensure it remains decentralized and censorship-resistant. Other coins won't be that lucky, especially when most of their founders/creators are widely known by the public. I'm talking about Ethereum's Vitalik Buterin, Cardano's Charles Hoskinson, and Polkadot's Gavin Wood. These projects don't stand a chance against government prosecution in the future.

At any moment, mainstream governments can hunt these founders to try to harm the aforementioned projects for good. Besides, the vast majority of altcoins are centralized. Therefore, it's likely Bitcoin will survive while the rest of the coins will become history. Who knows where Satoshi is right now? Just my opinion Smiley
I think he did that not only because he knew it would be illegal, but also the betterment of the project itself as well. If he ousted himself and talked about it, then it would have been pulled from one side to another and there would have been arguments. But since he never disclosed who he is, we will always think of him as nobody, and we will never consider him in our purchases.

I do not buy because of anything satoshi said, he is a mute point for me and that is why it was a good decision. Of course law was another reason, probably a big reason as well because he would probably be jailed by now, but I think bitcoins better future was the main reason.

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April 07, 2023, 09:42:01 PM
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If he shows up in the first place, he will attract the attention of the government and I am pretty sure they will find a way to get him to stop bitcoin, and most likely, we will not see bitcoin and crypto like nowadays. Or potentially a centralized and government-controlled version of bitcoin. But luckily, that didn't happen, and the government is having a lot of headaches when there is no way to stop bitcoin.
Yes, he would have been accused of different criminals charges in the court of law. The government would have been on his neck to terminate the project because the project is against their will. Their will is to suffer the citizens while the will of bitcoin is to liberate the citizens from poverty. And another thing would have done is to force him to centralized the project for their benefits. But God knows how to liberate the poor. And now because bitcoin is decentralized and no government can control it from States and discovering the massive adoption by their citizens, they also introduced their CBDC which ignored by the citizens and focusing on bitcoin alone.









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Last edit: April 07, 2023, 11:18:05 PM by AmoreJaz
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If he shows up in the first place, he will attract the attention of the government and I am pretty sure they will find a way to get him to stop bitcoin, and most likely, we will not see bitcoin and crypto like nowadays. Or potentially a centralized and government-controlled version of bitcoin. But luckily, that didn't happen, and the government is having a lot of headaches when there is no way to stop bitcoin.
Yes, he would have been accused of different criminals charges in the court of law. The government would have been on his neck to terminate the project because the project is against their will. Their will is to suffer the citizens while the will of bitcoin is to liberate the citizens from poverty. And another thing would have done is to force him to centralized the project for their benefits. But God knows how to liberate the poor. And now because bitcoin is decentralized and no government can control it from States and discovering the massive adoption by their citizens, they also introduced their CBDC which ignored by the citizens and focusing on bitcoin alone.

we may not be enjoying the benefits of the existence of crypto market. if the government has known his identity, they may have thrown a lot of legal issues to him. so yeah, better it this way. as he won't be accused of issues such as money laundering, and other conspiracy theories. better leave his identity a mystery so people won't think that he is taking advantage of being the creator of this currency. we don't even know if he is still alive or not. but for sure, a lot of people are trying to locate his whereabouts and all.

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