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November 28, 2022, 02:42:59 PM
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I got this very topic phrase"Not A Religion from one of my favourites in the community (Bitcointalk forum).
This very topic rang a bell in my heart because I had to read her response on a topic over and over again and I really do agree with her that Bitcoin isn't a religion
Most people see Bitcoin as a religion and a must to believe in it and and feel left out if they aren't.
One of the reasons people who believe so much in Bitcoin is the possibility of making money with minimal effort.
Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?

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November 28, 2022, 02:56:31 PM
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Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?

I guess that you're referring to Bitcoin price here, since technically it works on proven math/IT/cryptography with easy to reach source code, nothing "untouchable" people have to "believe in".

So back to price. Bitcoin has scarcity and very well thought tech, but in order to have good price there's a need at least for demand. Hence a degree of trust is still needed.
Now, I see two group of "believers":
* those who understand fairly well the math and relationships behind this and will say "it's not a religion"
* those who don't grasp all this and just see the price go sky high now and then; they keep their fingers crossed or even pray to get rich (quick)

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November 28, 2022, 03:11:30 PM
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To think more simply, bitcoin is just an investment, a store of assets as well as a means of payment, it serves our lives, we do not serve it as a god.
Bitcoin is not as godly as you think, you should remember that we didn't have bitcoin before and we still live well and everything is normal. But if you are religious, you know how important religion is.

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November 28, 2022, 03:25:42 PM
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Most people see Bitcoin as a religion and a must to believe in it and and feel left out if they aren't.
One of the reasons people who believe so much in Bitcoin is the possibility of making money with minimal effort.
Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?
Is that not just you only believe in Bitcoin, it's just because the utility of Bitcoin is the reason I trust and believe in this digital currency.
Though it's a valuable asset, you can't treat this the same as your religion, it's a different thing because you never think it's religion when someone owns gold or a bunch of money.  You can't pray to Bitcoin itself to increase the price quickly so that you can get your profit, that's not how it will work.

It needs worldwide adoption so that the demand will increase that makes the price will increase too.  It's simple to think that the price was based on the demand and the supply which makes the price grow up, with minimal effort but it needs your patience which for sure it's time-consuming.

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November 28, 2022, 03:32:17 PM
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Yes, bitcoin is an asset you can invest with the hope of earning something good in the future which many bitcoiners nvestors has tested it in the bear season and bull season to have so much believe on Bitcoin. Bitcoin is different from other assets you can predict and it will come to pass according to your prediction. I don't think, people just believed in Bitcoin because of money only but money is part of it, but many people believe Bitcoin just because is not manage by government.

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November 28, 2022, 03:43:14 PM
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One of the reasons people who believe so much in Bitcoin is the possibility of making money with minimal effort.
It's been true all along. People only want to hear beautiful fairy tales.

Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?
Sounds like too much.
I prefer to think that bitcoin as a commodity and treat it like gold (physically); however maybe others will say that I'm stupid. Don't care.
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November 28, 2022, 04:05:50 PM
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Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?
No, and no one should.
Religion mostly involves blind Faith in the existence of something which is not physical, Bitcoin does not involve faith or trust, rather you should try to verify everything about the network. Hence the phrase; "Do not trust, verify"

If you use a less extreme word than 'religion', it could be argued that there are many who feel that Bitcoin has no flaws and can never be usurped by newer or 'better' technologies, hence they already have a closed mindset to any innovation.

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I got this very topic phrase"Not A Religion from one of my favourites in the community (Bitcointalk forum).
This very topic rang a bell in my heart because I had to read her response on a topic over and over again and I really do agree with her that Bitcoin isn't a religion
Most people see Bitcoin as a religion and a must to believe in it and and feel left out if they aren't.
One of the reasons people who believe so much in Bitcoin is the possibility of making money with minimal effort.
Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?
Thinking up and saying realistically on which Bitcoin isnt a religion but a digital currency.It is really just people are really that overthinking too much or being that too optimistic which do really comes into a point that
they are really that treating it as a God.
Some are really just too obsessed on how to make or earn money on fastest way as possible which they do really see crypto dealing is they key.People do really comes into a point on which they
really believe  that this would really be saving up from their hardship in terms of finances.
People would just realize that this is just a currency and not something which is really connected with some divine things.It is really just stupid.
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Most people see Bitcoin as a religion and a must to believe in it and and feel left out if they aren't.
One of the reasons people who believe so much in Bitcoin is the possibility of making money with minimal effort.

I very rarely see people calling Bitcoin a religion, most commonly its when someone calls Bitcoin a cult when they are suggesting that it has no value and the community is based on pure belief.

You could draw some parallels between Bitcoin and religion, because Bitcoin community tends to be messianic - there's a lot of people who believe that Bitcoin is here to change the world, get rid of the evil banking system and fiat money. But such comparison isn't really productive, because that's just some aspect of Bitcoin community. At its core Bitcoin has nothing to do with religion, which is belief in supernatural forces.

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No, Bitcoin is not a religion whatsoever.
However, there are elements within the Bitcoin community that could  make it seem like a "religion", those are mantras or phrases that many (myself included) tend to repeat now and then:

"Not your keys, not your coins"

"Vires in numeris"

Bitcoin is about technology, economy and political ideals, the latter can be interpreted in a personal way, but in the end, most of the people in Bitcoin believe in the same ideas on decentralization, self custody, deflation, etc. Whenever you join a community where most of people seem to agree on the same, it may look like a cult, but make no mistake, Bitcoin is not a cult: anyone here is free to enter and quit whenever they want. 

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November 28, 2022, 06:26:39 PM
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Most people? Isn't it too excessive in the choice of words so that more people think Bitcoin is a religion? Most people mean more than half of the bitcoin user population. Maybe it's not right, you have to correct it. Only a few people think bitcoin is a religion. Belief in bitcoin has nothing to do with religion, believing in bitcoin means accepting technology and its use is not a matter of religion.

"Religion is a system that regulates the belief and worship of God as well as rules related to customs, and a worldview that connects humans with the order of life, the implementation of religion can be influenced by local traditions."

Don't overestimate the trust in bitcoin, it will be very different from economics and religion.

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November 28, 2022, 06:35:22 PM
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Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?

Nope! Because it is not a religion! I am not sure how you came to the conclusion that many bitcoiners considered it a religion because I have never got that vibe to be very honest! You will definitely find bitcoin maximalists here who truly believes in bitcoin and its power to break free censorship. This belief must not be mixed with religious kind of beliefs.

Bitcoin is a disruptive innovation that disrupted the traditional payments market significantly! But it still has a long way to go. Also, it is not right to entrust any single asset class blindly. It will make you suffer losses in an unimaginable way. When it comes to making money out of bitcoin, just keep your eyes and ears open and diversify every single time! And it is better to leave this religious thought out of bitcoin please! 

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I can't fathom what relationship between bitcoin and religion, and u always see those that make such statements as being confused about what Bitcoin really is and what is at stake here. Bitcoin is an alternate currency and also an asset with a great value which reflects in the price of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is trustless and verifiable on the network. And I can relate religion to any of this Bitcoin primary usage and purpose, so it will be a wasted effort trying to debate on this subject matter and we have seen similar topics like this before, it will not generate any serious discussion and in no time the topic will become in active since there will be no discussion due to the nature of this topic. Bitcoin vs Religion is a no comparable.

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Bitcoin is not a religion, if you can classify Bitcoin as a religion what about fiat currency, is fiat currency also a religion from your understanding, the answer should be No, because i believe that religion is something a particular environment do accept but Bitcoin is cryptocurrency that is generally accepted by anyone we know across the country, because every country do accept Bitcoin not the government but the people living in the country both different religions, because religion is a culture.
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I'm not sure what you mean by religion in this scenario. Bitcoin is neither for nor against any particular religion. Bitcoin is for everyone, as well as Bitcointalk. Whether it's Bitcoin or Bitcointalk, we're a community. We all love Bitcoin because it is peer-to-peer electronic money that allows us to make borderless payments. However, some people believe it is a quick way to make money.

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Bitcoin isn't a religion
Most people see Bitcoin as a religion and a must to believe in it and and feel left out if they aren't.
One of the reasons people who believe so much in Bitcoin is the possibility of making money with minimal effort.
I really dont get that word religion to bitcoin relations. Its not something we can compared like God or some form of deity right. First of all its a digital asset which is far from the context of Religious.

Maybe if some people thought of that is because they earn money from it by trading but the meaning is totally out of line.

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Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?

Religion could mean several things based on the perspective of people. It could be an avenue to worship or reference a Superhuman that controls the affairs of men. This is where we have religion like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and so on. It could also mean commitment or devotion to a certain course or interest. Some inventors were committed to make new discoveries and they were very dedicated to achieve them.
 
Based on the first definition Bitcoin is not a religion because it doesn't promote any belief about a particular God, gods or deity. Everybody regardless of your religion is welcomed to the Bitcoin space and nobody is promoting any form of religion, I am not sure Satoshi's religion is known or whether he belongs to any religion.

We have heard phrases like this 'Humanity is my religion or freedom is my new religion'. This could entail that you are committed to a particular course because you believe it is worthwhile. It means devotion to promote a particular product or idea because you believe it would have a positive effect on the people. Relating Bitcoin as a religion in this aspect might not be wrong because their are individuals that are working hard and dedicating their time and resources because they want to promote Bitcoin. Their number one desire or task is to do everything possible to add value to the Bitcoin space. Bitcoin is not their religion because it promotes a certain religious belief, it is their religion because they are dedication or devoting resources to it.  

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November 28, 2022, 08:12:18 PM
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Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?
Lol, it is really childish for anyone to see or believe Bitcoin to be a religion, if to them, Bitcoin be a religion, then i would like to ask..
- Where do they worship it?
    -Is here on Bitcointalk or the cryptocurrency exchanges?
Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency that is spendable the same way fiat is a currency we all spend, they both have their pros and cons, just that in Bitcoin, the pros seems to be far more than the cons, while with fiat, the cons are far more than the pros.
Believing in Bitcoin does not make it a religion, the same way those who still believe in fiat does not see it as a religion.\\
Believing in something is as a result of it power to solve a problem or problems, we believe in Bitcoin because it solve a lot of monetary problems, the same way those who still believe in fiat believe in it because they can spend it to solve their personal issues.
The day Bitcoin or fiat loses its power to solve problems, trust me, people will stop believing in it.

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all phrases (not only in the crypto world) are a product of senseless euphoria. most often forced by some small thing that accidentally became viral. For me, the worst is "to the moon" and BS about bitcoin religion taking second place in that frenzy.
a large number of people interested in bitcoin and things around it are mostly IT geeks, and they are prone to exaggeration and imagination. that's where these phrases and hype come from.

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a religion is a belief in an entity that you cant see or touch or punish. where you belief that it will make your life better due to pure belief


bitcoin does not need belief. it has code. it has real asics and real utility. if the code does something bad there is punishment for the system(forks get orphaned)

over centuries. ministers/priests set some rules for a community. but them pretend to be just janitors/messengers. where the vapour entity they invent  takes all the blame of the affects of the entity on the community.

bitcoin is not some vapour entity though.
smart people know to hold developers accountable and watch and review the developers instead of pretending bitcoin is a system with no creator of its own

bitcoin is no self created AI. its code made by devs. yes they dont like to be interrogated and yes devs wish to pretend to only be ministers/messengers/priests of a vapour entity no one can harm.. but thats not how bitcoin works.. devs are responsible for code changes. its how code changes/evolves after all

decentralising the dev group can ensure no (ad)minister can have outright control of code changes. which ensures bitcoins elegance survives and does its job. as oppose to those administrators of a central dev group pretending that bitcoin is some religious system where they are just messengers promoting new religious law

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