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November 30, 2022, 02:34:34 AM |
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good research, but I think even though many users are Russian, I don't think satoshis are Russian. because Satoshi's identity is very hidden, and I think the graph you made is very good. and seen in the graph that you made, it shows that many bitcointalk users are Russians.
and that reassures me if Satoshi wasn't Russian.
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November 30, 2022, 02:59:58 AM |
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Dan Pena explained Putin is Satoshi lol Yeeep Putin is playing a long game and crushing all economies in the world! He doesn't sound like joking, you can find it on youtube.
Russians are more active on thier local board because they speak Russia there. But who's to say after all Satoshi has not revealed himself so maybe he is Russian. But the stats in the forum is not proof.
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November 30, 2022, 04:03:23 AM |
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If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum? Very personal idea: Russia is a country with a lot of very rich people, and is also one of those countries where one day you have everything and the next one, if you do something wrong to the wrong person, well, things could go south very quickly because not everybody probably made money without some kind of favor so, my idea, is that people are well aware of these risks and having bitcoin, or knowing how they work, is just smart.
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November 30, 2022, 04:28:05 AM |
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There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?
I do not think that Satoshi Nakamoto is a Russian, as you stated there is no concrete evidence that he is a Russian national. One thing I know, Vitalik Buterin is a Russian, see his wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalik_ButerinIn addition from that there are also lots of cryptocurrency developers and crypto company founders that are Russian[1] Aleksander Ivanov, founder of the Waves Platform; Vasiliy Suvorov, a senior executive at Luxoft and one of the founders behind the Crypto Valley Association being built in Switzerland; Alex Fork, CEO of fintech firm Humaniq; Alex Fedoseev, CEO of 1World Online; Siberian-turned-Australian Sergei Sergienko, the CEO of ChronoBank; Igor Barinov, the blockchain priest at POA Network in San Francisco; Sergei Ponomarev, CEO of SONM, to name a few. Sergei Chekriy and his partner Yury Mukhin are two Russian entrepreneurs behind I-chain Aside from that the government is also into integrating cryptocurrency in their finance system. They are developing CryptoRuble under the commision of Russian President Vladimir Putin[1] That said, I think that is one of the major reason why Russian board is very active in this forum. They are inspired by crypto developers especially Vitalik Buterin who published ETH launch announcement in this forum[3].
[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2018/04/29/meet-the-russians-behind-your-blockchain-and-cryptocurrency-too/?sh=3ce068a33b86[2] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cryptoruble.asp[3] [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning
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November 30, 2022, 04:36:13 AM |
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I think you forgot to add some important information in your OP, one factor to be considered is that Russian local board was the first local board on bitcointalk. Which means they have been around for the longest time, and also considering their affinity for speaking their own language in IRL and on every online platform. Other local boards That alone is enough reason for their local board to be more active over the years than the others in the forum.
Thank you for adding an exciting piece of information about the forum that I didn't know about before. OP's findings are commendable but unfortunately 2 pieces of evidence are not convincing enough that Satoshi is Russian, if he has some activity in the local boards of Russia, we will have more convincing evidence. But in the end, we didn't have any clue about his identity, and I found that to be a great thing. I don't know what people think but for me, his anonymity is the right thing and good for bitcoin, him and all of us.
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November 30, 2022, 05:56:44 AM |
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until now I never thought who satoshi was and where he came from. but all i think is satoshi is the one who created bitcoin for the future.
don't assume if the local russian board is more active you think if the satoshis are from russia, that is a mistake. all of us who are here will also never know where the satoshi comes from. because the existence of satoshi is very private which must be maintained from several factors. and what I know is that the reason Russian local boards are more active is because Russia has great interest in bitcoin and other crypto
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November 30, 2022, 06:38:03 AM |
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The reason may be that Russian people do not speak English, so they can only write in their local board. People from europa, Africa or America can mostly understand English and write in all other places. So you're guessing Satoshi is a Russian because Russian board has a lot post and active members among other local board in this forum?
If I create 300 alt accounts and then make 3000 post on Turkish board, would you say Satoshi is from Turkish? If I create 400 alt accounts and then make 6000 post on new local board e.g. Nepal, would you say Satoshi is from Nepal?
Your assumption isn't make sense and there's 0% correlation about it.
Exactly
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November 30, 2022, 06:55:48 AM |
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(...) satoshi is everywhere, watching us somewhere (...)
So, like a god? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Could you spare a coin, almighty? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) lastly, there is also a possibility that not only Russians are active on the Russian board locally but from neighboring countries that have the same language maybe.
Good point. Georgians, Moldovans, and so on would fall into the same subforum. Bulgarians also don't have their own forum, but use the same alphabet, so they could be contributing. i just remember the best word on bitcointalk advertising -- no god, no king, only Bitcointrue, the countries that were once part of the soviet union and surrounding countries still use the Russian language a lot (cmiiw), which makes Russian one of the most widely used languages in the world. I think you forgot to add some important information in your OP, one factor to be considered is that Russian local board was the first local board on bitcointalk. Which means they have been around for the longest time, and also considering their affinity for speaking their own language in IRL and on every online platform. Other local boards That alone is enough reason for their local board to be more active over the years than the others in the forum.
good point!
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November 30, 2022, 07:01:47 AM |
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Do you really think that Satoshi's nationality is that important? Would it make a difference, if he was really a Russian? Is Satoshi Nakamoto one person? What if he is a team of developers? The Russian Local board is quite active and there are many crypto companies founded in Russia, even though the Russian government isn't crypto-friendly at all. However, that doesn't mean anything. Even if Satoshi was a Russian, there's no way to prove this theory. I don't think that he is Russian, because his English was pretty good.
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November 30, 2022, 07:15:36 AM |
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Forgive me OP, but I don't see any logic in the connection between Satoshi and the number of active users in the russian local board. The predominance of Russian users can only mean that they are more interested in bitcoin, crypto currencies and related technologies. Compared to other countries. The manifestation of activity is not an indicator that the founder of the bitcointalk belongs to them. Therefore, I believe that your arguments don't confirm anything, just as it don't refute anything. Satoshi can be a citizen of any country in the world, but we will not know anything about it.
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November 30, 2022, 07:47:21 AM |
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Forgive me OP, but I don't see any logic in the connection between Satoshi and the number of active users in the russian local board. The predominance of Russian users can only mean that they are more interested in bitcoin, crypto currencies and related technologies. Compared to other countries. The manifestation of activity is not an indicator that the founder of the bitcointalk belongs to them. Therefore, I believe that your arguments don't confirm anything, just as it don't refute anything. Satoshi can be a citizen of any country in the world, but we will not know anything about it.
What is certain is that Satoshi is a resident of Earth who has a superior brain by building Bitcoin technology to date. The OP only saw from the very active Russian user Domination and that really won't prove anything. As you said, Russians are probably more interested in cryptocurrencies and their technology than other countries which are lagging behind on the new technologies that are being talked about. My country alone Indonesia has little activity, because only a few people are really interested in bitcoin and are in this forum. About satoshi's identity, no need to guess anything just let him stay in his Privacy, it will be better.
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November 30, 2022, 08:15:46 AM |
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There is no correlation between the highest number of members and Satoshi Nakamoto coming from Russia. It's hard to even identify the extent of Satoshi Nakamoto's closest ties to the Russian state, personally I'm not that close to people in the Russian community, but I don't think there is any connection at all regarding the identity of Bitcoin's creator to the Russians. Moreover, there is no more accurate source, to justify your assumptions, and I don't think there is a need to find out more about who the real Satoshi is.
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November 30, 2022, 08:42:35 AM |
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maybe Russian people are more aware of technology and progress of the times, maybe that's what caused many BTT members from Russia.
satoshi Nakamoto, from the name alone it looks like a name from Japan, why do you mention Russians, just because there are more members from Russia. and I think this Satoshi is a group, not an individual. because making programs like bitcoin/crypto is a very complicated thing, especially since bitcoin was created when the technology was not as sophisticated as it is now. therefore I believe that this satoshi is a group not an individual, because if it's an individual, it's too difficult.
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November 30, 2022, 09:01:46 AM |
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Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.
Your presumption here is inaccurate because you can't because of a particular locale population on the forum concluded that Satoshi himself is a Russian, as to the best of my knowledge i think that alone should be one of the reasons why Russian locale shouldn't have been one of the highest population on the forum because most times people tend not to believe or adopt an invention that comes from their country citizens while other countries do appreciate such, am yet to still believe the statistics that Russia has the highest population on the forum since it's a choice to be identified by a locale you belong to. We have a large number of users on this forum not participating in the locale, since it it believed that the English not speaking countries have their each language they could better experience their participation on bitcointalk, and we we are to talk by global ranking of countries with highest population of bitcoiners, Russia is not one of the first three, consider US to an extent since it is by default an English speaking country, most of its citizens sees locale as less needed because they have no language barrier.
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I do not why there are some many people from Russia here on Bitcointalk, I do not mind, at all. I have just assumed to this day that people from Russia have a natural attraction towards technology, cryptography and computer science. I may be completely wrong though. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Citizens of Russia and Ukraine actively communicate in the Russian-language section of the Bitcointalk forum. In Russia, access to the forum is blocked, but the citizens of the Russian Federation are used to various bans from the Government, so they use VPN technology to visit the forum. Russian-speaking users are very fond of IT technologies, many of them have a higher technical education, in addition, they really like to communicate with other people (including on the Internet). I don't think Satoshi Nakamoto is Russian or Ukrainian.... But even if this is true, it does not explain why there are many Russian-speaking users on the forum. It is unlikely that these are the children or grandchildren of Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi Nakamoto remained the anonymous inventor of bitcoin. Perhaps he died or was killed by representatives of the special services.
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You misunderstand. If a person speaks Russian, it is not at all necessary that he be Russian. Also, for those interested in history, the USSR consisted of republics whose language was predominantly Russian. Later, when the USSR was divided into separate republics and the CIS appeared, the language of communication, albeit to a lesser extent, remained Russian. Therefore, not all people in the Russian-speaking section belong to Russia. From this, you can conclude that it is absolutely not necessary for some to bypass the blocking that Russia has for this forum. As for Satoshi, I like your idea ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . There's a lot to like here. A lot of brilliant discoveries were created by Russian-speaking people.
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1. I am not Russian, however, russian is one of the languages I speak and I often check there. 2. There are a lot of people who are not Russian, however, russian language is de facto first language for them. Lots of them. 3. I think people in Russian section of this site (and I think everywhere generally) tend to argue a lot. Those who speaks russian they know :-) that creates a lot of content.
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Satoshi being from a particular country wouldn't make this country more into Bitcoin or more active on the forum (or specifically on local boards), especially since nobody knows Satoshi's identity and country of origin. Moreover, local board activity doesn't mean that 'the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries'. It might just mean that while other nations tend to speak English and take part in the main sections of the forum, fewer Russians speak English well and/or are willing to communicate in it and prefer the local board. Furthermore, it's a big exaggeration to count all who speak Russian as Russians. Ukrainians are often fluent Russian speakers, Belarusians as well, and there are very sizeable numbers of Russian speakers in other countries like Kazakhstan or Estonia. Which can again significantly contribute to the local board posting while not meaning that there are more Russians here than everyone else. So the data on local board doesn't even say that Russians dominate the local board sections, let alone that Russia is huge on Bitcoin adoption or that Satoshi is Russian.
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November 30, 2022, 11:43:00 AM |
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This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.
If Nigerians one day become dominant on the forum, will that mean that Satoshi is perhaps from Nigeria? Such pointless discussions lead nowhere, because the real name and nationality of the person behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto is completely irrelevant. Satoshi didn't invent Bitcoin just for Russians or Nigerians or anyone else in particular, and that's why he decided to remain anonymous. Perhaps Satoshi was an alien whose spaceship crashed on Earth, and while repairing his spaceship he invented Bitcoin along the way - and is gone because he returned to his home planet in the constellation Taurus ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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November 30, 2022, 11:59:22 AM |
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They only block any url related to bitcoin? But I think this one can be bypassed easily either by just using some tools that change the url like url shortener or they can also use a VPN. No wonder why the post on the Russian local boards of this forum is still high but it's not enough evidence to say that satoshi is Russian.
The claim can be more valid if you saw that most of satoshi's post are from Russian boards. There are many Russians in the forum because Russia is a big country and then Russians are into bitcoin even if btc on them isn't totally legal but I think the status of btc had changed during the war and Russia have been sanctioned because their government started using btc that time.
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