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November 30, 2022, 01:21:26 PM |
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I did not know that Russia had blocked access to this forum, because the huge amount of people from there who participate here in Bitcointalk, sounds counter productive for the Russian government to try to ban something they can't enforce, imo. Also, I never fully understood why some people unironically believe Satoshi is dead or was assassinated, he seemed to be clever enough to stay fully anonymous and left the forum early enough, I assume he foresaw the attention that was coming towards him and left. I like to think he is alive and enjoying an early retirement somewhere.
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November 30, 2022, 02:14:43 PM |
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Until now, Satoshi's identity or privacy is still very guarded and I think that we, as active members in this forum, also need to maintain that privacy, even though I myself do not know where Satoshi came from.
Regarding the Russian local board posting matrix, it is very high compared to other countries, we cannot make it as an assumption that Satoshi is from there. The level of activity of members on the local board depends on the personal comfort of each member of this forum although being more active on the local board is also better for the progress of the local board itself.
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November 30, 2022, 02:24:34 PM |
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Well, if you have drawn these statistics when Satoshi were still active on this forum, it would still mean nothing. You cannot extrapolate any individual activity from the "activity" statistics of a group of users to identify him/her. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) There has been several vocabulary experts trying to identify him/her through their posts that was done on this forum and their finding was not that he or she were Russian. (They even looked at the time of the posts to try and determine on what timezone Satoshi were) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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November 30, 2022, 02:37:08 PM |
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Your points are nice. If the local board carry the highest score the same users are also in the main board. But I would not take that points to say Satoshi is from Russia because 3 or more countries in geo-political zone can form one board. Just like in West Africa, there is Nigerians Local Thread for Pidgin English, and if any other country in the West Africa that can speak Pidgin English can make comments in the thread, and that will also increase the activities of the local thread. And probably that is what has happened to the Russian board. Therefore, I can not say Satoshi is from Russia. But my presumption is that, He, Satoshi is from America. But someone said, Russians were the first to join the forum, and if that is true then what OP is saying is not far from the truth.
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November 30, 2022, 03:46:27 PM |
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This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. The creator, Satoshi Nakamoto might be also British, American, Japanese or whoever he wanted. My point is that no one really knew his exact identity or where did he live or where was he born. There's a lot of speculation that might be connected to his identity but up to this point, nobody was able to prove about his whereabouts. The fact that he is already clever enough to create bitcoin means that he's also clever enough to conceal his identity. There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum? You already said it yourself, the evidence you laid is not really concrete. The Russians may have been in the forum since 2010 but that is not proof to say that SN is Russian. My theory why the Russian Board is very active is because not all of them can understand and talk English which is the universal language, they are just all congested in one board.
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November 30, 2022, 08:12:42 PM |
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I think you forgot to add some important information in your OP, one factor to be considered is that Russian local board was the first local board on bitcointalk. Which means they have been around for the longest time, and also considering their affinity for speaking their own language in IRL and on every online platform. Other local boards That alone is enough reason for their local board to be more active over the years than the others in the forum.
The logic still holds, which is why Russia becomes the first people to get their local board. It should be because they were the most populated. Why were they the most populated? It still revolves around the topic in OP. I have been reading other people's suggestions and it shows that no one is supporting the idea of Satoshi being from Russia. Well it profits us nothing if he is from there. But the fact is that Satoshi is a human and he is from somewhere but we in this community are not interested in knowing where.
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November 30, 2022, 08:31:01 PM |
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I think he is an alien. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) How did you connect the local board activity with Satoshi Nakamoto? I don't see any connection at all. Russian people loves bitcointalk so they are making more posts than other local boards and that can be the only reason.
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November 30, 2022, 10:21:07 PM |
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Where did your data come from? 21 active Indians? I think you are about 1000 short. Same goes for the other languages. I assume you got data based on the number of users that post in these boards, but that does not mean people of those countries are not posting in other sections and avoiding their local boards. Most campaigns do not accept local board posts which is why they would avoid those sections.
I have no clue what ethnic background satoshi was, but there are some OG users who may have more knowledge on the subject. It may also be something that satoshi tried keeping hidden idk.
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The logic still holds, which is why Russia becomes the first people to get their local board. It should be because they were the most populated. Why were they the most populated? It still revolves around the topic in OP.
Could be for multiple reasons, some of which might not be very easy to verify. It could be that the ideals of Bitcoin appealed more to Russia, because of the political situation they found themselves in at the time. Russian is also a pretty popular language on the internet, I do believe it's Russian, Chinese, and English that pretty much dominate most of the internet. I might be wrong in that, though. Also, I don't know this off the top of my head, but when was the Russian section created exactly? Once we know that, you'd have a better idea of what might have led to that becoming the first local section.
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November 30, 2022, 11:37:27 PM |
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The reason why I asked this question is because I have been following local boards activities posted monthly by Rikafip. Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.
It's obvious that largest countries in the world will have biggest activity in their local boards, and that doesn't mean that Satoshi is coming from that area but they have a lot of blockchain developers. If United States/United Kingdom/Australia would have local board for some weird reason, they would probably have the most activity in forum. However, I never understood why China and Japan never had any big activity here. Back to Satoshi, according to all of his written posts and messages, most likely he (or they) have British origin.
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This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian.
I always thought it wasn't important for me to know who Satoshi was. or where did Satoshi come from. he/she has decided to remain anonymous and it should be that way for us too. no need to find out what the associated truth is. although it will always cause any of us to be interested in topics like this, the OP, you have a thought that probably no one would ever agree with. including the Russian people in the forum.
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Satoshi is impossible to do something that is impossible to do, I mean Satoshi's capacity is impossible to make brochures or invitations to invite people around where he lives to join the Bitcointalk site. There is not the slightest gain for him if people around him join Bitcointalk and he has nothing to lose if people choose to ignore this forum. The increasing population of Russians means that they are very enthusiastic about new technologies that can provide them with many advantages. Russian people are very aware that this forum is very useful for them to get all information about Cryptocurrencies, especially Bitcoin. Their love for Bitcoin has earned them more and more here and some of them have contributed a lot to the forum.
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I always thought it wasn't important for me to know who Satoshi was. or where did Satoshi come from. he/she has decided to remain anonymous and it should be that way for us too. no need to find out what the associated truth is. although it will always cause any of us to be interested in topics like this, the OP, you have a thought that probably no one would ever agree with. including the Russian people in the forum. It may not matter to people like me and you, but some other people will find it important regardless of their reasons. After all, satoshi remains anonymous today even though many people are eager to find out his identity in various ways. Satoshi will remain anonymous, and always will be. I would prefer if the satoshi never got exposed I would believe if it did there would be a lot of drama being made just to go against bitcoin especially from the government. Bitcoin remains strong without satoshi.
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December 01, 2022, 06:18:16 AM |
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This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary.
There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?
We have so many speculations about the nationality of Satoshi but you are the only one that thinks that he is Russian, can you give us an example of Satoshi's works written in Russian I may be ignorant if he has works written in Russian, but there's no evidence also of a specific nationality where he asks or gets support he always speaks in general and does not mention any hint of his nationality, many thinks that is a Japanese because Satoshi Nakamoto sounds like a Japanese name.
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December 01, 2022, 11:57:31 AM |
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Could be for multiple reasons, some of which might not be very easy to verify. It could be that the ideals of Bitcoin appealed more to Russia, because of the political situation they found themselves in at the time. Russian is also a pretty popular language on the internet, I do believe it's Russian, Chinese, and English that pretty much dominate most of the internet. I might be wrong in that, though.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-most-used-languages-on-the-internet/I was interested to know the accuracy of your opinion about the most popular languages used on the Internet. This statistic is not exactly up to date, as it is dated 2021, but I believe it is still relevant. Likewise, I am also very surprised that the Russian language is very popular and is in second place after the English language, which is so widely used all over the world. But what is remarkable is that I also found a lot of information indicating that Russian-speaking people began to massively learn other languages. Since not all Russians reacted positively to the mobilization, they were forced to leave the country, which forced them to start learning the languages of the countries to which they moved. https://holod.media/2022/12/01/na-fone-vojny-rossiyane-stali-bolshe-izuchat-inostrannye-yazyki/
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December 01, 2022, 02:10:13 PM |
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The reason why I asked this question is because I have been following local boards activities posted monthly by Rikafip. Every month Russia activity is always more than double of the other countries. This means that the population of Russians in this forum is higher than other countries by large portion.
The truth about this data given above is that it varies from month to month, its never constant, so it can't be a criterion for judging where Satoshi might have come from because I can remember Germany and Turkey ones took the lead as the country with the most traffic on the forum. So would you have said Satoshi is from Germany or Turkey back then? Moreover, you are slightly close to the answer of the country with the most traffic on the forum, because according to the statistics I got from "similarweb.com" which is an A.I online tool that can be used to check the country with the most traffic on any given website in the World, I was able to find out that Ukraine happens to be the number one country with the most traffic on the Bitcoinntalk forum for the past 30 days, followed by the United States as 2nd and Russia as 3rd on the list, as you can see below. But I think since Ukraine doesn't have a local board on the forum, they joined in using the Russian local board, which is why you have had such high post counts for the past 30 days. Note: This figure varies from month to month Check this... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2Fr2NZNc9%2FScreenshot-20221201-142711.jpg&t=665&c=eKVYe9tR6zLjsg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FGT9ggcP%2FScreenshot-20221201-143013-2.jpg&t=665&c=ZcFZPW566gM7kw)
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December 01, 2022, 02:40:56 PM |
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But the fact is that Satoshi is a human and he is from somewhere but we in this community are not interested in knowing where.
How is that a fact? Can you provide some evidence to support that claim? A lot of people believe that "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a pseudonym for an individual or team of individuals, but no one has yet confirmed that he is a human being, as far as I know. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 01, 2022, 02:42:43 PM |
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There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?
I try to understand logically in my mind, according to the quote above, from the data I have seen, it is reasonable and rational, why the Russians are more active in this forum than other countries. That reason can be matched based on what I observed in this source: DIGITAL 2022: THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, there are several points that I can logically conclude. 1. It makes sense that the activity on this forum, greater in Russia, is the reason. Russia's internet penetration rate stood at 89.0 percent of the total population at the start of 2022. Kepios analysis indicates that internet users in Russia increased by 5.8 million (+4.7 percent) between 2021 and 2022.
2. Another reason that makes sense to me, is below. At the start of 2022, 75.2 percent of Russia’s population lived in urban centres, while 24.8 percent lived in rural areas.
6.1 percent of Russia’s population is between the ages of 0 and 4. 10.2 percent of Russia’s population is between the ages of 5 and 12. 5.5 percent of Russia’s population is between the ages of 13 and 17. 6.5 percent of Russia’s population is between the ages of 18 and 24. 13.1 percent of Russia’s population is between the ages of 25 and 34. 16.1 percent of Russia’s population is between the ages of 35 and 44. 12.8 percent of Russia’s population is between the ages of 45 and 54. 13.4 percent of Russia’s population is between the ages of 55 and 64. 16.5 percent of Russia’s population is aged 65 and above.
Conclusion: From the analysis of the data above, it's no wonder that Russia has the most activity & users on the Bitcointalk forum, nearly 129.8 million Russians use the internet, it is very likely that they also use this forum. Quite clear from my point of view, that Satoshi is not in Russia, which for sure we can't see from most users & activity, different understanding, if it is associated with Satoshi.
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December 01, 2022, 05:15:53 PM |
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This has made me think that Satoshi is a Russian. I said so because I am a Nigerian. If I am able to develop something like because, I will bring my people in to take early spot and they will also support me when necessary. If Satoshi thought like you and got his "people early on" to get an early start, I don't think that Bitcoin would become what it is today. There is no other evidence apart from what I presented above which is not concrete. If I am not correct can somebody explain to me why there are many Russians in the forum?
I wouldn't even call it a evidence, as those charts that I made about most active local boards have no correlation to Satoshi's nationality. However, I never understood why China and Japan never had any big activity here.
As a matter of fact, Chinese local board used to be among the most active ones and then in the mid 2018 their numbers fell down drastically. Japanese used to be active as well, but around the same time their numbers went down as well.
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December 01, 2022, 09:43:06 PM |
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As a matter of fact, Chinese local board used to be among the most active ones and then in the mid 2018 their numbers fell down drastically. Japanese used to be active as well, but around the same time their numbers went down as well.
I didn't know that, but I usually didn't check activity in other local boards, until you started posting your regular monthly reports. Do you have some stats about that, or could you maybe create special end of the yearly report for all local boards from the time of their creation? For example you can show what local board was most active in 2014, 2015, 2016 ... right up until 2022. Interesting topic about history of local boards in forum, first one created in 2010 was Russian, Spanish and German: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205448.0
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