Types Of Online Casinos To Avoid..

[Slow death]

well, about this community issue, in parts you are right, when a new casino doesn't have a community it starts to selectively scam and that makes it very difficult for people to find out early to avoid using the casino, and unfortunately there are many casinos all over the internet that has no community and they pay certain sites that have added casinos to get referrals, and these sites write good things about these scam casinos, unfortunately most people don't do research on other sites to see how reliable X casino is or not , people just rush to create an account at the first casino they find

[RealMalatesta]

A dedicated community is a representation of reputation which is being built over the years. It means you cannot have a community in your beginning days but only by showing honest practice and good support, you may able to build a strong community hence checking for active community must be a basic criteria, we must need to look up before starting a journey with a casino.

I simply follow the casinos which are active on this forum with campaigns and support topics before testing any casino. After months long testing, I do start depositing my funds to bet/play.

The addition to that is the fact that if a place has thousands of people liking it, do you really think that it would be possible if they just scammed people? It means that if they have thousands who like it and not a single proven scam, that means it's good.

It is not just about thousands of people liking a place, it is also about proven that they are not scamming. No casino in the world who scams their customers could possibly have that many people following and enjoying them, it would be impossible. That is why a big follower count matters, and even topics here matters, because in here, we get to see complaints and if there is a proof, we would know about it.

[panganib999]

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...

Like for example, if a casino have a community on bitcointalk, and you are a user of that casino, at any time you have an issue with that casino and the customer support is not helping, bringing such issue to their community on bitcointalk will force the casino to find solution(s) immediately so that they don't lose their other customers in the case where they are the ones at fault..

But a casino without any kind of community anyway, if as a user, you encounter any problems and the customer refuse to help you, you are absolutely helpless, and complaining on forums where the casino is not even known won't help because it does not affect the casino on their business, they probably won't see your complaints, neither would their other customers do, so certainly, they won't answer and their other customers also don't know what is going on.. So it is best to avoid such casinos in my best opinion..

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

I get where you are coming from but let me play the devil's advocate here. Trust rating should always be taken at face value and not be interpreted any other way. The matter with whether these ratings are manipulated or not is out of the question because if that is so then there's a good possibility that all gambling sites out there with an extensive community may as well skew the ratings to their favor. What I would highly suggest you look out for in a gambling casino is their customer service. A customer service that is subpar or non-existent is a telltale sign that something awry is afoot. Meanwhile like a post I saw here back then, if their customer service is great enough that even in forums like these they can help you once a complaint is made then that is a surefire sign you're in a fair and legit casino.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...

Like for example, if a casino have a community on bitcointalk, and you are a user of that casino, at any time you have an issue with that casino and the customer support is not helping, bringing such issue to their community on bitcointalk will force the casino to find solution(s) immediately so that they don't lose their other customers in the case where they are the ones at fault..

But a casino without any kind of community anyway, if as a user, you encounter any problems and the customer refuse to help you, you are absolutely helpless, and complaining on forums where the casino is not even known won't help because it does not affect the casino on their business, they probably won't see your complaints, neither would their other customers do, so certainly, they won't answer and their other customers also don't know what is going on.. So it is best to avoid such casinos in my best opinion..

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

I get where you are coming from but let me play the devil's advocate here. Trust rating should always be taken at face value and not be interpreted any other way. The matter with whether these ratings are manipulated or not is out of the question because if that is so then there's a good possibility that all gambling sites out there with an extensive community may as well skew the ratings to their favor. What I would highly suggest you look out for in a gambling casino is their customer service. A customer service that is subpar or non-existent is a telltale sign that something awry is afoot. Meanwhile like a post I saw here back then, if their customer service is great enough that even in forums like these they can help you once a complaint is made then that is a surefire sign you're in a fair and legit casino.

Well, in as much as I agree with you, I think you didn't get the original point of the whole discussion, me making reference to online trust rating is just as a corner stone laying foundation to the actual point I am trying to expose to the community.

Online casino without online presence simply means an online casino that have no community online where you and me and every users of that casino can interact with each other.

For example,
Stake.com have an announcement thread on bitcointalk, this ann thread also serves as a place where stake users can interact with each other.

Owl.games, Blackjack.fun, Freebitco.in all have announcements threads here on bitcointalk which also serves as a place where their users interact with each other..
On the hand, there are online casinos out there that do not provide this kind of means or facility for their users, which means their users don't know or interact with each other, such a casino can easily scam a user and other users of that same casino won't know about it because there is no means or place for the scam victim(s) to alert other users of that casino to be aware of leave the casino before they fall victim too.

I hope with the above explanation, you are able to understand the context of this topic.

[uneng]

On the hand, there are online casinos out there that do not provide this kind of means or facility for their users, which means their users don't know or interact with each other, such a casino can easily scam a user and other users of that same casino won't know about it because there is no means or place for the scam victim(s) to alert other users of that casino to be aware of leave the casino before they fall victim too.

I tend to avoid these websites, not only because I fear they are scam casinos, but also because I suspect they are phishing websites which can attempt to steal your personal informations, accounts or put virus on your device. It's easy to spot these services: you search on google and there are only reviews websites talking about them. The informations disponible are scarce as are the reviews given by users. From the few reviews, some will say these casinos are great (probably employees of the casino posting as users), while others will say they are complete and blatant scams. When you see there is a big imbalance between reviews, without any consistent replies from the casino official support itself, stay away.

[Cryptomultiplier]

Before one gets to choose a casino, I think they may have heard a testimony(s) or seen their name pop up severally on search engines during research on a choice online casino to stick with.
For this to happen, it means, there is an efficient system to ensure customer feedback either by having an active customer care service or a community/forum where interaction concerning such a casino site is open and most importantly, active.  In a case where one doesn't seem to observe this kind of system in place when trying to make the choice of joining a reputable online casino, it is better to look for one that does have the right active system in place, so as to avoid negative stories which might result from having no voice or platform to air complains or grievance.

[Fatunad]

Before one gets to choose a casino, I think they may have heard a testimony(s) or seen their name pop up severally on search engines during research on a choice online casino to stick with.
For this to happen, it means, there is an efficient system to ensure customer feedback either by having an active customer care service or a community/forum where interaction concerning such a casino site is open and most importantly, active.  In a case where one doesn't seem to observe this kind of system in place when trying to make the choice of joining a reputable online casino, it is better to look for one that does have the right active system in place, so as to avoid negative stories which might result from having no voice or platform to air complains or grievance.

Majority of us would be definitely be searching up with some relevant information or any feedbacks on a certain site that we are tending to make a deposit but mind bogglingly that there are still people
who do really end up on getting scammed just because they have dealt up on a site which is new and ends up on being a scam, and on the time that happens then this is where they do learn their
lesson that they should have at least put up some effort on making up some research before making any deposit which they should have done it earlier.So that they do able to save up their
asses on getting scammed but well this is where some people do make learnings which it does really come with a cost.

[Jemzx00]

On the hand, there are online casinos out there that do not provide this kind of means or facility for their users, which means their users don't know or interact with each other, such a casino can easily scam a user and other users of that same casino won't know about it because there is no means or place for the scam victim(s) to alert other users of that casino to be aware of leave the casino before they fall victim too.

I tend to avoid these websites, not only because I fear they are scam casinos, but also because I suspect they are phishing websites which can attempt to steal your personal informations, accounts or put virus on your device. It's easy to spot these services: you search on google and there are only reviews websites talking about them. The informations disponible are scarce as are the reviews given by users. From the few reviews, some will say these casinos are great (probably employees of the casino posting as users), while others will say they are complete and blatant scams. When you see there is a big imbalance between reviews, without any consistent replies from the casino official support itself, stay away.

I don't think that there are any relations between gambling platforms that don't have a community like a thread here on the forum to phishing websites. Phishing websites are one way for scammers to scam people with their account and information by copying legitimate websites but differ in the website links. In short, all websites can have a phishing website and it depends on the scammer itself whether what website they'll copy.

When it comes to lack of community of some gambling platforms, they can still be trusted as there are various review sites out there that provides definite reviews whether they are trustworthy or not. Also, even if the casino won't start a community, the users or gamblers can make it on their own on various platforms such as discord and bitcointalk. For me, lack of community doesn't really decide whether the casino is good or not but it's a good to have.

[uneng]

On the hand, there are online casinos out there that do not provide this kind of means or facility for their users, which means their users don't know or interact with each other, such a casino can easily scam a user and other users of that same casino won't know about it because there is no means or place for the scam victim(s) to alert other users of that casino to be aware of leave the casino before they fall victim too.

I tend to avoid these websites, not only because I fear they are scam casinos, but also because I suspect they are phishing websites which can attempt to steal your personal informations, accounts or put virus on your device. It's easy to spot these services: you search on google and there are only reviews websites talking about them. The informations disponible are scarce as are the reviews given by users. From the few reviews, some will say these casinos are great (probably employees of the casino posting as users), while others will say they are complete and blatant scams. When you see there is a big imbalance between reviews, without any consistent replies from the casino official support itself, stay away.

I don't think that there are any relations between gambling platforms that don't have a community like a thread here on the forum to phishing websites. Phishing websites are one way for scammers to scam people with their account and information by copying legitimate websites but differ in the website links. In short, all websites can have a phishing website and it depends on the scammer itself whether what website they'll copy.

When it comes to lack of community of some gambling platforms, they can still be trusted as there are various review sites out there that provides definite reviews whether they are trustworthy or not. Also, even if the casino won't start a community, the users or gamblers can make it on their own on various platforms such as discord and bitcointalk. For me, lack of community doesn't really decide whether the casino is good or not but it's a good to have.

There isn't a direct relation on every cases, but there are higher chances you will fall at a scam casino if you only stick to random reviews on the internet. I've already signed up in theoretically legit crypto websites and suffered phising and hacking attempts from them later. What I mean is that those sites collect your email and password, so what they do next is to try logging in your another accounts in exchanges, emails and more using those same credentials. They also send phising emails to your mailbox from the most diverses themes and subjects.

The problem with random reviews is that you don't know the history of those people, for how long they have been active on this niche, if they are legit gamblers or members of the casino itself or even haters from a rival company. With the forum it's more guaranteed, because you know the reviews here are legit are are posted in real time. There is more activity and as soon something shady happens at a crypto casino promoted on the forum, it's going to be immediately posted here. It's a more efficient platform for checking legitimacy of casinos, I mean.

[irsykes]

have experienced, many cases have happened like this, with big advertisements for the first person to get a big bonus just bullshit. I have experienced something similar and out there I have to be careful in choosing a gambling site. This is important to correct, whether the site is good or not. maybe there is a risk when we have deposited money but can't withdraw it just for some unclear reasons

Just don't believe those too good to be true ads that you see. Because at most times, they're just there to attract anyone that it can attract with the numbers that it projects. Well, most of them are successful because of the sign ups that they get but they're unreal offers and bonuses.
That's why if you want to play, just go somewhere else and even if there are no bonuses but they're a legit casino that's been operating and you have the confidence that they won't fool their customers.

the past, certainly won't repeat the same thing, but today there are still many founders doing such marketing to target newbies who lack knowledge. now I only believe in legal and trusted gambling

[serjent05]

There must be an online casino that doesn't have a community but it doesn't mean that all of them are a scam. Maybe they are not just a fan of those. They created an online casino for the sole purpose of earning a money. Nothing else.

Online casino has a community but they just don't create a forum or an extra site for these community to discuss the casino.  It is reasonable because it is just an extra expenses and needs extra man power to moderate that outside the casino community platform when they have the chat room on the site.

And, not all casinos that are rated high were automatically mean legit because ratings can also be faked out easily. The only way for us to confirm if the casino is truly legit or not it is by playing with them using some amounts which we can afford to lose easily. A legit high rated casino must have a gaming license. If we have a concern, I think it's possible to report them in their license issuer. Also I heard that a licensed casino can be reported in askgamblers.com

We don't actually need to spend money to check if the casino is legit.  We just need to look for a legit review platform that does not modify the players' feedback.  There are lots of platforms like this on the internet so gathering information if a casino is legitimate or not can be verified through this kind of platform

[TimeTeller]

There must be an online casino that doesn't have a community but it doesn't mean that all of them are a scam. Maybe they are not just a fan of those. They created an online casino for the sole purpose of earning a money. Nothing else.

Online casino has a community but they just don't create a forum or an extra site for these community to discuss the casino.  It is reasonable because it is just an extra expenses and needs extra man power to moderate that outside the casino community platform when they have the chat room on the site.

And, not all casinos that are rated high were automatically mean legit because ratings can also be faked out easily. The only way for us to confirm if the casino is truly legit or not it is by playing with them using some amounts which we can afford to lose easily. A legit high rated casino must have a gaming license. If we have a concern, I think it's possible to report them in their license issuer. Also I heard that a licensed casino can be reported in askgamblers.com

We don't actually need to spend money to check if the casino is legit.  We just need to look for a legit review platform that does not modify the players' feedback.  There are lots of platforms like this on the internet so gathering information if a casino is legitimate or not can be verified through this kind of platform

A quick search over the internet will give us a lot of results, and those results are for us to validate such claims.
Check the source of the feedback, because at first glance, you will have the notion if it is authentic or not.
If you can't determine its legitimacy, check for other reviews or feedbacks, if there are a lot of negative reviews, doubt the site already.
You can always verify the claim if you will also try the site, but use small amount of bankroll to test the site.
Fortunately, on this forum, there are couple of good review sites regarding casinos, and you can check them out below-

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335097.0 - Gamblingbro.com
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262141.0  - btcgosu.com

[Furious 7]

And, not all casinos that are rated high were automatically mean legit because ratings can also be faked out easily. The only way for us to confirm if the casino is truly legit or not it is by playing with them using some amounts which we can afford to lose easily. A legit high rated casino must have a gaming license. If we have a concern, I think it's possible to report them in their license issuer. Also I heard that a licensed casino can be reported in askgamblers.com

We don't actually need to spend money to check if the casino is legit.  We just need to look for a legit review platform that does not modify the players' feedback.  There are lots of platforms like this on the internet so gathering information if a casino is legitimate or not can be verified through this kind of platform

Agree with this and indeed, instead of spending money, it is better to look for official reviews first, apart from minimizing the loss of our money, we also don't have to bother coming to their site.
Currently there are many sources that can be used as a reference especially with some reviews there and maybe here is also a good place to find it because at bitcointalk too I think we already know about some reviews that can actually be trusted in this regard.
Even though everything can't be done like that, especially for newbies, things like this are a good thing to minimize spending on gambling and at least our time isn't wasted.

[boyptc]

I'd say those that have a poor support even if they have a strong presence online. I'd rather have the one that has no community and no strong online presence but by just staying on their site, you're getting all the help when needed.

That's what we want when we're playing in a casino and that's to be appreciated by the casino itself and by giving us the service through its own channels.

[chaser15]

The problem with random reviews is that you don't know the history of those people, for how long they have been active on this niche, if they are legit gamblers or members of the casino itself or even haters from a rival company.

In that case, I think we should already know what's the best thing to do. Even with no active ANN thread here, we shouldn't be supposed to fall on a random gambling site that easily because we have all the common sense to determine if we are risking money on a considered good site or not. With lots of site checkers today, it's quite easy nowadays to determine if a site is trustworthy or not. Fiat online casinos don't have ANN thread but I do play on several fiat online casinos and I'm not worried about being scammed because I do the proper research before depositing money on those. So far, so good.

Obviously, if you end up not finding many reviews on a certain site, why should you use them? Skip and find another.

This response of mine is just in case a user doesn't know everything about the ANN thread since mostly and of course, only crypto-gambling sites are being discussed here but the subject should be generalized and also includes online fiat casino.

[freedomgo]

It's pretty obvious that we have alot of casinos without online presence here on BTT, but does that make peeps reject an offer to bet on their platform? The answer is NO!
People don't really care about it.. afterall, organizing a campaign on the forum is just an AFTERTHOUGHT and the whole project needs funds ; so an excuse (to anyone who might Wanna hear) would be that it incures extra expenditures -- after spending alot already on a customer care Bot? Or hiring a representative to attain to any complaints? That'll be too much. Most gamblers don't even consider that as a preference anyways.

Sandra 🧑

Well, I believe that won’t be necessary at all especially if we are already in a trusted and reputable casino, but for those who have just come out in the market and are still attracting new players, a good online thread will help them gain interested players since they can bargain there their bonuses and promotions and anyone that will be interested will be given chances to inquire first of the requirements to avail those games.

[wxa7115]

I'd say those that have a poor support even if they have a strong presence online. I'd rather have the one that has no community and no strong online presence but by just staying on their site, you're getting all the help when needed.

That's what we want when we're playing in a casino and that's to be appreciated by the casino itself and by giving us the service through its own channels.

Slow customer support can without a doubt be a problem, especially if the support is also not of the best quality and you need to spend days to resolve an issue that in other casinos may take minutes.

And while I can understand that new or small casinos may not be able to afford such a high quality customer support, I have had some similar experiences with casinos which were very popular, and to me this is very discouraging to the point that if possible I would try to avoid gambling on that casino in the future.

[BobK71]

A casino has to be flourished in all aspects to gain popularity. As the casino business continues to thrive, many scammers create new trap along with good casinos. But to get rid of all these various traps some things need to be well analyzed. I will say like others that this forum helps keep a gambler safe from those scam sites. There are ANN threads open for each site where a gambler can get support for any need. Moreover, a new gambler can easily select a casino site by looking at reviews from it. The best thing is that scam sites cannot promote in this platform. Moreover, giving utmost importance to a gambler's withdrawals, deposits and promotions etc. And in these cases when no solution is found after getting any error then those gambling or casino sites should be avoided.

[gunhell16]

We better check if the people in their community is real because there are certain technology where they can fake those people keep bumping their thread or even continue to discuss something on their channels they can even pay people to do that. Also we should check how they perform and how many cases has been solve by them or if there are pending one because from this we can really figure out how those casino acts towards providing good service to their community. Also we can see if we need to avoid them since having numerous accusation is red flag already to us.

The question is dude, do you have any idea how to know if their community is fake or legit? because nowadays, what you say may be true, but if we don't have evidence, we can ignore it.

They should also have an official channel on Telegram, Twitter, and other social media platforms so that the community knows where to look for them just in case there is a concerning issue that needs to be fixed.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating,

Yes, you are totally right on this very statement of yours given above, because in most cases those might be paid reviews by the casino or it's representative to mere individuals so as to attract potential gamblers into patronizing their casino, haven't read lovely rating on websites such as "Trustpilot" and "Scamadvicer.com". And another casino to avoid is one who promises to offer huge first time deposit bonuses, and a casino without an active signature campaign here currently now on the forum. Because if a casino can't afford to run a signature campaign on the forum, how sure are you they will be able to pay you if you luckily happens to win huge profit?