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December 16, 2022, 09:12:48 PM |
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Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community
From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating,
Yes, you are totally right on this very statement of yours given above, because in most cases those might be paid reviews by the casino or it's representative to mere individuals so as to attract potential gamblers into patronizing their casino, haven't read lovely rating on websites such as "Trustpilot" and "Scamadvicer.com". And another casino to avoid is one who promises to offer huge first time deposit bonuses, and a casino without an active signature campaign here currently now on the forum. Because if a casino can't afford to run a signature campaign on the forum, how sure are you they will be able to pay you if you luckily happens to win huge profit? There can be some exemption on this as there are some gambling platforms that don't have any relation or community to this forum but offers great services on the platform and even the gambling review platform provides great ratings to these. Some review websites might be low quality as they accept payment to review platform but there are review sites out there that can be trusted by anyone. Also, Promotion and Bonuses that are too great, especially for first-time gamblers are pretty common and have no relation to whether the gambling platform can be trusted or not. In regard to casinos that have a thread here but does not offer a signature campaign doesn't mean that they cannot be trusted, it just means that signature promotion on the forum did not provide the great result on their advertisement as signature campaigns are often effective only in the long run.
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December 16, 2022, 09:23:13 PM |
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We better check if the people in their community is real because there are certain technology where they can fake those people keep bumping their thread or even continue to discuss something on their channels they can even pay people to do that. Also we should check how they perform and how many cases has been solve by them or if there are pending one because from this we can really figure out how those casino acts towards providing good service to their community. Also we can see if we need to avoid them since having numerous accusation is red flag already to us.
The question is dude, do you have any idea how to know if their community is fake or legit? because nowadays, what you say may be true, but if we don't have evidence, we can ignore it. They should also have an official channel on Telegram, Twitter, and other social media platforms so that the community knows where to look for them just in case there is a concerning issue that needs to be fixed. Creating social media platforms arent really that hard which it wont really be that a solid indication if we do speak about legitimacy of a certain platform on which you would really be that relying on it or thinking off that it would be a solid indication that a certain site is legit.Everything could really be faked from social media accounts to feedbacks or something like that.As a human being then it would really be that impossible that you wont really be able to determine or differentiate out on whats fake and whats real.Although there are some circumstances which it is really that hard to determine and this is why this forum is really that relevant or really that helpful if we do speak about real time feedbacks and words towards a certain site.
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Distinctin
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December 16, 2022, 10:30:48 PM |
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well, about this community issue, in parts you are right, when a new casino doesn't have a community it starts to selectively scam and that makes it very difficult for people to find out early to avoid using the casino, and unfortunately there are many casinos all over the internet that has no community and they pay certain sites that have added casinos to get referrals, and these sites write good things about these scam casinos, unfortunately most people don't do research on other sites to see how reliable X casino is or not , people just rush to create an account at the first casino they find
People get only scammed sometimes because of their poor habit on making a research first before they start gambling. I know that gamblers are all for profits and that's the reality, but if they will rush to play games at an unreputable casinos, its like they're in suicidal. So maybe considering a good community might be the first step to predict that this casino is legit and has no records of scamming.
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Fatunad
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December 16, 2022, 10:58:24 PM Last edit: December 16, 2022, 11:08:28 PM by Fatunad |
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well, about this community issue, in parts you are right, when a new casino doesn't have a community it starts to selectively scam and that makes it very difficult for people to find out early to avoid using the casino, and unfortunately there are many casinos all over the internet that has no community and they pay certain sites that have added casinos to get referrals, and these sites write good things about these scam casinos, unfortunately most people don't do research on other sites to see how reliable X casino is or not , people just rush to create an account at the first casino they find
People get only scammed sometimes because of their poor habit on making a research first before they start gambling. I know that gamblers are all for profits and that's the reality, but if they will rush to play games at an unreputable casinos, its like they're in suicidal. So maybe considering a good community might be the first step to predict that this casino is legit and has no records of scamming. People do only make out some search after that they had been scammed and this is where they do learn up their lessons which is really just too absurd because they could really be able to avoid those things if they had just able to make search first before taking any actions.This is really a very common behavior of people on which they do take out actions without having that researching first on things. If they are really just that minding off on how to deal up with things, then making out some research first isnt really that a bad idea.You would really be that able to avoid and learn up things before and save yourself into those problems.
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December 18, 2022, 08:17:54 PM |
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well, about this community issue, in parts you are right, when a new casino doesn't have a community it starts to selectively scam and that makes it very difficult for people to find out early to avoid using the casino, and unfortunately there are many casinos all over the internet that has no community and they pay certain sites that have added casinos to get referrals, and these sites write good things about these scam casinos, unfortunately most people don't do research on other sites to see how reliable X casino is or not , people just rush to create an account at the first casino they find
People get only scammed sometimes because of their poor habit on making a research first before they start gambling. I know that gamblers are all for profits and that's the reality, but if they will rush to play games at an unreputable casinos, its like they're in suicidal. So maybe considering a good community might be the first step to predict that this casino is legit and has no records of scamming. To be honest, i don't have many problems with the casino i play often. here in our forum. it is very easy to track down casinos that already have a good reputation. some of them even become one of the leading casinos. So, if there are still people who are victims of casino scams. it was their own fault, because they didn't try to find out in advance whether the casino they were going to play at had a good reputation or not. at least, by just browsing in this section of the forum. we can find casinos that are absolutely to be avoided, especially casinos that have a red record. To be honest, I don't play in many casinos, only one or two casinos. even so, until now I have never experienced the slightest problem, be it a fast deposit or withdrawal. So, guess we should be grateful, that we have a community and can help when we have a little problem with one of the casinos.
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December 18, 2022, 08:27:44 PM |
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The meaning of lighting up and trusting may well have a large definition. When is a site a scam site? There are often situations where players have violated the terms and conditions and that way problems arise with the gambling site. However, this does not always seem right to me, because casinos are still within their rights to take measures when the general terms and conditions are violated. There is not really 1 type of casino that you should avoid. Using a gambling license also has little value. You will have to look at the reputation and rely on the findings of other players to see what their experiences are like.
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December 18, 2022, 09:09:20 PM |
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Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community
From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...
Like for example, if a casino have a community on bitcointalk, and you are a user of that casino, at any time you have an issue with that casino and the customer support is not helping, bringing such issue to their community on bitcointalk will force the casino to find solution(s) immediately so that they don't lose their other customers in the case where they are the ones at fault..
But a casino without any kind of community anyway, if as a user, you encounter any problems and the customer refuse to help you, you are absolutely helpless, and complaining on forums where the casino is not even known won't help because it does not affect the casino on their business, they probably won't see your complaints, neither would their other customers do, so certainly, they won't answer and their other customers also don't know what is going on.. So it is best to avoid such casinos in my best opinion..
This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.
It seems like a natural evolution that a casino or sportbook would grow a presence online as they try to attract their customer base. One of the best ways to grow customers in this lucrative and highly competitive business is to make sure your name sits among all the other casinos on places like this or review sites. The only way to do that is by making connections, keeping customers engaged on this type of community and dealing with situations where a customer feels aggravated. If you were to ignore places like this, leaving complaints in the public forum unhandled, then it gives an impression that your site is not trustworthy which is a major part of getting customers to deposit in the first place.
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Cryptock
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December 18, 2022, 09:10:42 PM |
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The meaning of lighting up and trusting may well have a large definition. When is a site a scam site? There are often situations where players have violated the terms and conditions and that way problems arise with the gambling site. However, this does not always seem right to me, because casinos are still within their rights to take measures when the general terms and conditions are violated. There is not really 1 type of casino that you should avoid. Using a gambling license also has little value. You will have to look at the reputation and rely on the findings of other players to see what their experiences are like.
When you are making up search and tumble upon with some negative feedbacks or words then it would really be needing up with that verification first whether its a legit one or just simply those fellas are just trying out to redirect the issue since they had made out some violation.This is where personal judgement would take place and into consideration.Not all issues and complaints cant be considered to be legit this is why personal verifications is a must but if the entire community does share up with the same feedback then it would be common sense that it is really something that confirmed or been proven out which it doesnt really need that to look further. In my opinion - excess of everything is bad be it gambling or the power one should have balanced approach for everything And one should not waste much amount to the casinos - because it goes quickly and never comes back
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Fatunad
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December 18, 2022, 09:59:28 PM |
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The meaning of lighting up and trusting may well have a large definition. When is a site a scam site? There are often situations where players have violated the terms and conditions and that way problems arise with the gambling site. However, this does not always seem right to me, because casinos are still within their rights to take measures when the general terms and conditions are violated. There is not really 1 type of casino that you should avoid. Using a gambling license also has little value. You will have to look at the reputation and rely on the findings of other players to see what their experiences are like.
When you are making up search and tumble upon with some negative feedbacks or words then it would really be needing up with that verification first whether its a legit one or just simply those fellas are just trying out to redirect the issue since they had made out some violation.This is where personal judgement would take place and into consideration.Not all issues and complaints cant be considered to be legit this is why personal verifications is a must but if the entire community does share up with the same feedback then it would be common sense that it is really something that confirmed or been proven out which it doesnt really need that to look further. In my opinion - excess of everything is bad be it gambling or the power one should have balanced approach for everything And one should not waste much amount to the casinos - because it goes quickly and never comes back On the time you do make out deposits on a gambling site then consider those amounts to be lost already and other relatable to risk which you should really be anticipating for it to happen. Its true that everything which is too much would be that bad and it is really that needing to have that balance.Our own will would tell us which is bad and which is right. You cant really be that dumb on not to notice which is really that bad and which is good.We do have this forum where lots of users could able to tell if we are dealing with a legit or bad site.
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wxa7115
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December 21, 2022, 02:56:28 AM |
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The meaning of lighting up and trusting may well have a large definition. When is a site a scam site? There are often situations where players have violated the terms and conditions and that way problems arise with the gambling site. However, this does not always seem right to me, because casinos are still within their rights to take measures when the general terms and conditions are violated. There is not really 1 type of casino that you should avoid. Using a gambling license also has little value. You will have to look at the reputation and rely on the findings of other players to see what their experiences are like.
When you are making up search and tumble upon with some negative feedbacks or words then it would really be needing up with that verification first whether its a legit one or just simply those fellas are just trying out to redirect the issue since they had made out some violation.This is where personal judgement would take place and into consideration.Not all issues and complaints cant be considered to be legit this is why personal verifications is a must but if the entire community does share up with the same feedback then it would be common sense that it is really something that confirmed or been proven out which it doesnt really need that to look further. It depends on the negative review, when the review is quite emotional without any evidence I tend to disregard the negative review as I just assume the gambler lost money and it is simply salty about it. However if the negative review is articulated and it is very precise on describing what is wrong with the casino then I give it way more weight, and quite honestly just one of those reviews can be more than enough for me to not gamble at that casino, because as we know in this market once your coins are no longer in your wallet it is impossible to get recover them, unless the other person is willing to send you those coins back, something unlikely if you happen to be gambling at a scam casino.
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December 21, 2022, 03:11:10 AM |
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People do only make out some search after that they had been scammed and this is where they do learn up their lessons which is really just too absurd because they could really be able to avoid those things if they had just able to make search first before taking any actions.
And that's pretty much how scammers take money off of others. They're rather vulnerable and are ignorant of how the internet can answer most questions if you look up properly, and can pretty easily let you off from being scamed. It depends on the negative review, when the review is quite emotional without any evidence I tend to disregard the negative review as I just assume the gambler lost money and it is simply salty about it.
However if the negative review is articulated and it is very precise on describing what is wrong with the casino then I give it way more weight, and quite honestly just one of those reviews can be more than enough for me to not gamble at that casino, because as we know in this market once your coins are no longer in your wallet it is impossible to get recover them, unless the other person is willing to send you those coins back, something unlikely if you happen to be gambling at a scam casino.
It actually depends even if the review was precise, I'd rather look for proof or guarantees that said complaints were actually understandable. Negative reviews that hate on a casino due to say, UI, slow website, and other tech-ish stuff like that, I usually ignore (but I still don't look at them preferably) and do not really consider it as a scam site. I'd only ever consider a review as "negative" if the casino was a legit scam, otherwise, I'd see it as a simple review.
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December 21, 2022, 10:28:42 AM |
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It depends on the negative review, when the review is quite emotional without any evidence I tend to disregard the negative review as I just assume the gambler lost money and it is simply salty about it.
However if the negative review is articulated and it is very precise on describing what is wrong with the casino then I give it way more weight, and quite honestly just one of those reviews can be more than enough for me to not gamble at that casino, because as we know in this market once your coins are no longer in your wallet it is impossible to get recover them, unless the other person is willing to send you those coins back, something unlikely if you happen to be gambling at a scam casino.
I don't really believe in reviews like that if they don't come from this forum because I already consider this forum the most trusted source of reviews. If some members say negative reviews about a casino and are corroborated by several other people's opinions, that's enough for me to avoid that casino. I better keep looking and try other casinos. I'm sure they have positive reviews. The reviews out there probably won't be honest about what they get from the casino, whether it's the service, the games, or even about deposits and withdrawals. But the members here will give an assessment based on what they experienced. And this is where the role of the casino or its representative is to be able to help every member who has this problem.
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The meaning of lighting up and trusting may well have a large definition. When is a site a scam site? There are often situations where players have violated the terms and conditions and that way problems arise with the gambling site. However, this does not always seem right to me, because casinos are still within their rights to take measures when the general terms and conditions are violated. There is not really 1 type of casino that you should avoid. Using a gambling license also has little value. You will have to look at the reputation and rely on the findings of other players to see what their experiences are like.
Bla bla bla and you're keep promoting a scam casino under your signature, a complete bullshit If you've know how to find a casino is scam, then why you're promoting them? are you think getting a payment from victims were scammed is good? I don't really believe in reviews like that if they don't come from this forum because I already consider this forum the most trusted source of reviews. If some members say negative reviews about a casino and are corroborated by several other people's opinions, that's enough for me to avoid that casino. I better keep looking and try other casinos. I'm sure they have positive reviews. The reviews out there probably won't be honest about what they get from the casino, whether it's the service, the games, or even about deposits and withdrawals. But the members here will give an assessment based on what they experienced. And this is where the role of the casino or its representative is to be able to help every member who has this problem.
Yeah this forum is really the best option to choose a right site, not only about casino, but everything that has a relation with Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. When someone get scammed, we only need to avoid to use that service, if the developer or team don't care with that, they will lose most of customers. However there's many people who still not use this forum to gather information, that's why many people still get scammed until now (especially the 1xbit scam).
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December 21, 2022, 03:52:21 PM Last edit: December 21, 2022, 04:05:51 PM by QueenVera |
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There are a whole lot of other casinos one should avoid a d I also agree with you in avoiding casinos without presence in online forums because just as OP said, there are possibilities of a casino getting away with a crime if they don't have a community presence, no matter the trust ratings they might have but if they are present in a community, you can easily get in touch with them and firnyhe sake of their reputation, might be forced to respond to you and get this issues resolved. One other casino one should run from are those ones with negative reviews because even with a negative review and no resolving of the issues is a prove that the casino isn't a trustworthy casino and ahojld b avoided.
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December 21, 2022, 05:00:37 PM |
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Whoever knows more in-depth things before the game starts usually wins their bet.
I got your point now, concurrently could it be the reason why most of games do cut off and ended up losing the last 1 to 2 games if predicted? maybe if so i would love to be reviewing my games with people i think that knows better than me around my locality before finally placing my bets maybe this could help me by having most of the winning. What you said is good. Getting the suggestion from the users around and placing the bets will increase the winning chances. It is to be noted, if we place the bet on our own choice and win/loss it won't hurt us. Same when done on someone's suggetion and if the bet losses, it will hurt and makes us think should've placed the bet on thyself. Always the best for everything, be it in casino bets or in trading, the best thing is that when you get good profits, it is better to get 50% of the profits and enjoy them, buy, travel, enjoy that money, take it to something tangible and enjoy it The best thing is that, and if the person wants to continue playing, they can do it with the other 50%, which is not bad either, although in my opinion I would not leave 50%, I would leave 10% to risk and leave them totally willing to lose , because it would be playing with my earnings, but losing 10% no longer hurts to lose all 100% of what is earned, I always see it that way, just like trading.
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December 21, 2022, 05:27:58 PM |
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Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community
From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...
This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.
Bro according to men I have seen that many casinos runs with Cheap domain names and also they try some new users to offer more deposit bonus, daily challenge rewards and also Cashback Upto 50%. They lure need users and when they try to get withdraw rewards and than it shows pending and their admins also do not help them. I have seen these types of casino in my life and thanks God I am safe for now on cause I get knowledge.
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Sanitough
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December 21, 2022, 08:41:55 PM |
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There must be an online casino that doesn't have a community but it doesn't mean that all of them are a scam. Maybe they are not just a fan of those. They created an online casino for the sole purpose of earning a money. Nothing else.
And, not all casinos that are rated high were automatically mean legit because ratings can also be faked out easily. The only way for us to confirm if the casino is truly legit or not it is by playing with them using some amounts which we can afford to lose easily. A legit high rated casino must have a gaming license. If we have a concern, I think it's possible to report them in their license issuer. Also I heard that a licensed casino can be reported in askgamblers.com
Well, it does not mean actually that all those online casinos who do not prefer to build an online community are most likely scams and should never be trusted. Of course it’s never the case. But on the part of the users, even myself, I see it more reliable if we can easily communicate with them with regards of our problems and concerns, and even suggestions. With ANN thread, I can see there is more transparency not only on the part of the operators of the casino but even to the players too. Especially for newly build online casinos, they can be more known easily if there is an ANN thread present.
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December 21, 2022, 10:24:12 PM |
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Well, it does not mean actually that all those online casinos who do not prefer to build an online community are most likely scams and should never be trusted. Of course it’s never the case. But on the part of the users, even myself, I see it more reliable if we can easily communicate with them with regards of our problems and concerns, and even suggestions. With ANN thread, I can see there is more transparency not only on the part of the operators of the casino but even to the players too. Especially for newly build online casinos, they can be more known easily if there is an ANN thread present.
At least every casino has a telegram group community to communicate directly with the team and other members, aiming to increase trust and positive feedback from each member because every problem is handled quickly, but ANN threads are also good for responses from the community but not all teams that manage official accounts respond problem in the ANN thread because the account is rarely active, so it's better to improve the service for the community group on telegram for the best service.
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Finestream
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December 21, 2022, 10:59:10 PM |
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Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community
From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...
Like for example, if a casino have a community on bitcointalk, and you are a user of that casino, at any time you have an issue with that casino and the customer support is not helping, bringing such issue to their community on bitcointalk will force the casino to find solution(s) immediately so that they don't lose their other customers in the case where they are the ones at fault..
But a casino without any kind of community anyway, if as a user, you encounter any problems and the customer refuse to help you, you are absolutely helpless, and complaining on forums where the casino is not even known won't help because it does not affect the casino on their business, they probably won't see your complaints, neither would their other customers do, so certainly, they won't answer and their other customers also don't know what is going on.. So it is best to avoid such casinos in my best opinion..
This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.
It seems like a natural evolution that a casino or sportbook would grow a presence online as they try to attract their customer base. One of the best ways to grow customers in this lucrative and highly competitive business is to make sure your name sits among all the other casinos on places like this or review sites. The only way to do that is by making connections, keeping customers engaged on this type of community and dealing with situations where a customer feels aggravated. If you were to ignore places like this, leaving complaints in the public forum unhandled, then it gives an impression that your site is not trustworthy which is a major part of getting customers to deposit in the first place. Most especially for newly built online casinos as they can be misjudged easily and pointed out as a scam if they can't make connections and unable to reach out to their customers particularly in giving solutions to their problems and concerns. Although having no online community is never a guarantee that its a scam, but casinos like this will never be free too from doubts and accusations that this certain casino will turn into a scam later on.
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ethereumhunter
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December 22, 2022, 03:36:28 AM |
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I don't really believe in reviews like that if they don't come from this forum because I already consider this forum the most trusted source of reviews. If some members say negative reviews about a casino and are corroborated by several other people's opinions, that's enough for me to avoid that casino. I better keep looking and try other casinos. I'm sure they have positive reviews. The reviews out there probably won't be honest about what they get from the casino, whether it's the service, the games, or even about deposits and withdrawals. But the members here will give an assessment based on what they experienced. And this is where the role of the casino or its representative is to be able to help every member who has this problem.
Yeah this forum is really the best option to choose a right site, not only about casino, but everything that has a relation with Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. When someone get scammed, we only need to avoid to use that service, if the developer or team don't care with that, they will lose most of customers. However there's many people who still not use this forum to gather information, that's why many people still get scammed until now (especially the 1xbit scam). That's because they found the site from a search engine when they must have looked at these forums and made no effort to visit them to find information about the casino they were looking for. Those who do that will experience fraud from an unknown casino and only then will they visit this forum to complain, while we also don't know anything about the casino because the casino doesn't have an ANN here. That gets them in trouble and we can only advise them to contact customer service so that they can solve their case as soon as possible. At least they should be observant in finding the right casino to avoid scams from that casino site.
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