Buying of merits thread. If you have proof post it here and let them be tagged

[yahoo62278]

Today I received a message from a user on telegram about a user in the winz.io campaign who was buying merits. I spoke with the user and told them, "Without proof there is nothing I can do".

After speaking with this user, I also decided to message the person he was referring to as well as look into his merit history. While looking into his merit history I seen 2 suspicious profiles

DEGATON44 who hadn't posted since April 2021.

mafoja1 who hadn't posted since April 2022.

MAMUN74 the cheater

Both profiles looked fishy and made me wonder why they would give merits if they don't even use the forum? So, I told the guy being accused that I kind of believed the guy messaging me and buying merits is cheating. He actually confessed.

I'll be tagging all 3 accounts as cheating and merit selling should not be tolerated. If any of you have proof of this type of activity, feel free to post here and help stop these cheaters.

[1714916170]

1714916170

[Poker Player]

I've just tagged the three of them, but I doubt very much that we will be able to catch many cases.

I guess this is a consequence of your weekly merit requirement for the campaign.

This is something I understand you did with good intentions to ensure a quality campaign. But if I, who earn merits at almost double the rate the activity, quit a campaign of yours because I wasn't sure I could meet the requirement every week, things like this don't surprise me.

Do you think that in general the rule has been positive?

[YOSHIE]

If you look at history: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg45759941#msg45759941, @Mamun74 bad, he has multiple accounts, it's hard to say he bought (Merit), although he admits he did.

Like you said.

He actually confessed.

There are several options in cases like this.
1. The user creates a destination Alt (beginner) account to redeem (Merit).
2. Or maybe he bought (Merit) from the account you mentioned above or based on information from the user who gave it via telegram to you.
It could be done, but why did he buy only one (1) Merit, how much would that 1 Merit cost if he bought it.... curious.

But my guess is that the user transfers merit between Alt, considering that there is no valid evidence submitted by other users in your telegram, the reason I match these users is based on the Alt they have a lot, besides that the other two accounts were beginners, he could have made him do that.

That's based on my argument, maybe if there is other evidence leads like the title of this thread, good enough and professional.

[yahoo62278]

I've just tagged the three of them, but I doubt very much that we will be able to catch many cases.

I guess this is a consequence of your weekly merit requirement for the campaign.

This is something I understand you did with good intentions to ensure a quality campaign. But if I, who earn merits at almost double the rate the activity, quit a campaign of yours because I wasn't sure I could meet the requirement every week, things like this don't surprise me.

Do you think that in general the rule has been positive?

Positive for the forum? Yes and no I suppose. Yes, because I feel like it made some users care a little more about their quality, but no because I think it opened the door for people to figure ways around it.

Looking at the merit histories, it's very curious to me that some users earned exactly 1 merit each week. Does that instantly make them a cheater, no but it makes me want to pay attention to them more and see if my hunch is correct. I decided in the end that keeping the rule as is was going to do more harm than good though. My end goal was to try to improve quality, not to install fear and deception into users.

[Pandu Geddon]

I fully support your campaign rules. Great for encouraging members to make quality improvements to posts. but there will always be a downside to a rule. and what you've found right now is one of them.
now more people will probably pay attention to your campaign spreadsheet. because maybe not only 1 or 2 accounts make such mistakes.

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

I've just tagged the three of them, but I doubt very much that we will be able to catch many cases.

I guess this is a consequence of your weekly merit requirement for the campaign.

This is something I understand you did with good intentions to ensure a quality campaign. But if I, who earn merits at almost double the rate the activity, quit a campaign of yours because I wasn't sure I could meet the requirement every week, things like this don't surprise me.

Do you think that in general the rule has been positive?

Positive for the forum? Yes and no I suppose. Yes, because I feel like it made some users care a little more about their quality, but no because I think it opened the door for people to figure ways around it.

Looking at the merit histories, it's very curious to me that some users earned exactly 1 merit each week. Does that instantly make them a cheater, no but it makes me want to pay attention to them more and see if my hunch is correct. I decided in the end that keeping the rule as is was going to do more harm than good though. My end goal was to try to improve quality, not to install fear and deception into users.

I'm on your side,, I'm not one of the good posters either but the 1 merit/week rule is really challenging. I rarely check winz campaign spreadsheets maybe because I wasn't part of the campaign but several accounts joined, I noticed they've started upping their posts, which means your terms and goals run successfully.

[dkbit98]

I'll be tagging all 3 accounts as cheating and merit selling should not be tolerated. If any of you have proof of this type of activity, feel free to post here and help stop these cheaters.

So he is student coming from poor family, and he is ready to accept money for merits
It doesn't really help very much tagging newbie accounts like Degaton44 because they can easily create new ones, but I don't think we have any other options at the moment.
Who knows how many people sold merits, but I think there are a lot of them, and I remember I saw offers for this on other websites/forums and fiverr.

If you look at history: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg45759941#msg45759941, @Mamun74 bad, he has multiple accounts, it's hard to say he bought (Merit), although he admits he did.

Eight known accounts from 2018, it's probably more of them in the end of 2022. 

[Awaklara]

manager, after you catch it and remove it from your campaign. now he switches to promote 1xbit casino scam. with this being clear, he is indeed on the forum just for the money. even after the account was tagged, now he is trying to destroy it.
it shows he is making every effort to stay in your campaign including buying merit. or maybe a merit transaction with the alt account.

[yahoo62278]

manager, after you catch it and remove it from your campaign. now he switches to promote 1xbit casino scam. with this being clear, he is indeed on the forum just for the money. even after the account was tagged, now he is trying to destroy it.
it shows he is making every effort to stay in your campaign including buying merit. or maybe a merit transaction with the alt account.

Most users are here with the intent of making money. If they weren't you wouldn't see signature campaigns, bounty campaigns, or any paid promotions because there wouldn't be anyone trying to participate. Look at the number of designers offering services or the number of campaign managers. We are all here making money. Very few that aren't.

Now the user in question has messaged asking for forgiveness but I have not replied because I feel he doesn't really feel sorry he cheated, but more sorry he got caught. So in his mind, his account is ruined. What does he have to lose?

[KingsDen]

...I guess this is a consequence of your weekly merit requirement for the campaign.

...Do you think that in general the rule has been positive?

Positive for the forum? Yes and no I suppose. Yes, because I feel like it made some users care a little more about their quality, but no because I think it opened the door for people to figure ways around it.

...I decided in the end that keeping the rule as is was going to do more harm than good though. My end goal was to try to improve quality, not to install fear and deception into users.

That is the nature of man. He is adaptive and finds a means to survive whatever the society throws at him. A crooked man especially can be so smart and adaptive.
As a manager, you must have understood that the quality of posts have improved since you enacted the rule. But in some rare situations and with a more careful scrutiny, you will see a less quality post receiving 1 merit and a more quality post recieve none. As a manager you know the quality posters in your campaign, then your conscience wouldn't allow you to kick a quality poster because he failed to earn a merit, and retain a less quality poster who maneuvered his way.

I'll suggest that to achieve your aim, pay your participants per post. If it's $1 per post and maximum of 25 posts per week. Then a poster makes 25 posts in all and out of which is 17 quality post, you pay them $17. Next week, they will pay attention to their post quality.

[examplens]

I looked at Mamun74 post history, I have to admit that I am surprised that he was accepted in a slightly better campaign. Is it possible that there are not enough quality full members?
btw. I see that he has already switched to the 1xbit campaign, where he obviously belongs.

I'll suggest that to achieve your aim, pay your participants per post. If it's $1 per post and maximum of 25 posts per week. Then a poster makes 25 posts in all and out of which is 17 quality post, you pay them $17. Next week, they will pay attention to their post quality.

this seems so simple in theory, but in reality, it would mean that the manager would spend too much time explaining to spammers why some of their posts were not accepted. just look at one of the telegram bounty groups where hunters send their complaints, I can't even imagine what all the managers get in private messages.

[PrivacyG]

Noticed the accounts which sent Merits both earned between 1 and 2 spendable Merit points from a thread where they posted an Encrypted Message (link).  I just published a reply over there to let OP know as I am now afraid some Newbie accounts are using the thread to farm spendable Merits and then sell them off.

I feel a little bit bored so I might try to look this up a bit more, since there might be an actual pattern of many more accounts doing the same thing.

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Regards,
PrivacyG

[PrivacyG]

YOSHIE connected mafoja1 (profile) to sawrajsi (profile)

I connect the following.

mafoja1 (profile) to tamim60 (profile), (proof).  tamim60 has been using the e-mail of mafoja1, mafoja41@gmail.com.

mafoja1 (profile) to aslam86** (profile), mafoja1 mentions their Facebook profile with ID 100050987412783 here (link) and aslam86 uses the same profile in this thread (link)

mafoja1 (profile) to preikaler** (profile), they use the same BTC address 1ANLjELCzZb1Px7UWYi8UE5uChpBNVPHfB (mafoja1), (preikaler)

mafoja1 (profile) to mariawilson** (profile), they use the same Reddit user https://www.reddit.com/user/Crypto-mim (mafoja1), (mariawilson)

From here on I found this list of 238 connected accounts by Veleor (here is their post).  I will quote Veleor below with all 238 accounts

238 Accounts Connected:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1335821 - rsrb
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1429475 - cryptotaste
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1419785 - mike3432
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1433115 - croptodic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1434339 - cryboy24
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1434692 - Osvaldoolive
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1434888 - ariaemily
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1437780 - criptogenious
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1441457 - voltagecrypto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1446391 - currencydesigner
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1447002 - reflectcrypto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1452961 - bitlover07
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1464621 - Crypto-mim**
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1464627 - cryptohipo
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1467215 - coin_maker
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1472403 - paisleyevelyn
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1472959 - ademily
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1479084 - Aleshia696
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1479673 - tradcoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1480316 - goldminecrypto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1480320 - cryptoama
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1481134 - kayakcrypto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1483824 - cryptoroi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1485713 - cryptoabc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1489913 - karamoris
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1490344 - bittop-24
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1501700 - cryptojohn9
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1503288 - crypto.cr
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1505454 - jerrysmith
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1509728 - cryptogrey
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1511275 - roxxy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1512665 - Cryptobuz
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1512894 - CryptoMark2585
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1515502 - passioncrypto
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1516754 - ericbrown
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1517094 - MattCrypto43
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1518976 - CryptoChris18
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1731469 - Demon Hunter
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1757660 - jonloner011
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0xcf7F1E7c4108cd77C36fB82A2B3f4802Ede3Ce65
0xD1393C6Df4b9E6f8f2dCcFa452D61b1c13521f47
0xd13a33B6732dbB8cD2aa841BCe2BBE7D0838776B
0xd14d51D75251Ad473b9EC9777dDe061f752EB692
0xd1CBB2de9Aa13ffb99F20774BDA403afBedfccC8
0xD1d9EB0AA1a58e0820f2C2726B25F201e7D6D013
0xD1E165Fa9Cfd537D19A6987C7Ae319C913e38035
0xD366079CE9f772fD1d141C370d43a392a473bF3F
0xD382c13b2FEB6c753d0565C4F8e2583ecBAbe144
0xd4f5CFA13D37c52B1d967aa52550F9AeDc96829b
0xd85E5557DCC0034C971c612045Da04B68646e989
0xD860455635c6F591926FD8F3744fA881bF37615B
0xD971eC4075B1a3FF298deEcB9e3224DD902dd97f
0xd99307367ACF188588cF16cd7178b1d2ff42cC65
0xDa3c192d17897d673ff7986cBa09C3c926663C63
0xDB323A961299Ccd984a66Bf363c32Da8b0e15b63
0xdcD5091031Bc87333bFf10034927d5Fc8fa74190
0xdD1D17576E9815A08e90874C8e943d0298f94879
0xde404aDd3Ed4f199fFA88b7350c0Af27D7035151
0xdEA67e9E542F5e49F5AED7cA8Aba4167e5378635
0xDEA968c931F0eE49F5859069112D83AC4cf0b2E0
0xDeDd22d079073D4224eb30f8b3D6df33a9c1102b
0xE0Fd0b4a166A10BdbAca08051D1ec97ec76a90Bb
0xE4414c0a57cAf7B11eEDDE13afeB19e8035395Ec
0xe5B1805373711Ba68Bd19B2e010beCE858eDD09f
0xe6BE659dF8Cfd201688c164629921D6E4D608444
0xE7618B9007e3Cc1c1571EDdE3A5427Dd9884E134
0xe80D0dC69b73f71b7dc915Ec75D175151cdA0164
0xE8BD2535B08c331008137134D653767eD263041F
0xe93A0678B4604018Cf0BDc7F4bFc548ca53DB11A
0xEC45aC6560c4Ee16759444a9392166A09e4c6027
0xeDA2E591A5DE5a29d7323620566AF26abed412F7
0xEdaA24f174563f7287fb7707943888eE373D0145
0xef25fbd4f2A20b8E3dBc515a2e2e01b0D6Ca2340
0xf0687cc4Cc2f5c26592Fc3bA9bB7Ec555C7317d9
0xF0cEFf6801484023aA354bab9ff5775ef248d798
0xf1003d7ba9217Bd25D32589B88e450D18986B6B6
0xF1D21e4836a6B35d45A434de12204405D7d11Dc9
0xf33bACe0E705b81C62D0605E3c1C9e1698914d4c
0xF37136A81Ab53E0faB1d23D3fFF4976776fD97f7
0xf38E612A211C72A927fE0F81c1D1D94c006a62Af
0xF4C6D5460c7B07E8F84f32c1e8B84Fd3FdC5C4c0
0xF5691DBd41fae010D173074a909615d461e51a0F
0xf7B4f599fDE3EEd5EED7cDc5a1bBF5558ce6F5c6
0xf87af8F802b1DEB112f371c43dF7dC27A363bc7F
0xf8B54ab0a6E0542B297df4Ca93BEE05aF869DAF0
0xF9946aFf371C7b8087aeC16A9398a0402B8DB8BF
0xF9d8bb330FFEBA43036F037C82d8FcA1d5834C77
0xFA2EA0995Ec8aDC47F86A7Ba6Ca49E3D5C388850 
0xfa3DFA44814b3c9708fd158B80738221ae51eD23
0xfb071F292799f0D194bB0A637A122AB30b4eDa55
0xFb13D0C77c154f3e84E924D0f90Aed15D485beff
0xFB2Ce006dA5aaF178169A575482731950C2609bf
0xFcCA034bFbEdacA821EAd0732348aE81846f903C
0xFCFf151834346A0eC32583F42A0DA3BfBCf0B1e5
0xFE7aFe7A337c993cB7De17a3EdBEf95C7fBDeeE1
0xFEC8DA8d700DBCc1DdcF9dD25B41eaEc505f99d0

I then linked the following.

mafoja1 to rana250 (profile), they used the same e-mail tamim431421@gmail.com (mafoja1), (rana250)

mariawilson to Ombakbanyu** (profile), they are using the same Telegram username @mariawilson24 (mariawilson), (Ombakbanyu)

mariawilson to MKP90** (profile), same reason (see this post)

With mafoja1 and the others I found now there are even more connected accounts.  Now things get bad.  If they are using all of these accounts to farm Merit points and sell them, they may be making decent money.

I want to bring something up here.

rana250 tried to get Merits in the Sign a Message thread (see this link).
aslam86 got 2 Merits in the Sign a Message thread (see this link).
mafoja1 got 3 Merits in the Sign a Message thread (see this link).
tamim60 got 2 Merits in the Sign a Message thread (see this link) and tried again two months later (see this link).

There is probably more.  I will try to look it even deeper but my mind is already boggled out.  I got very tired by this.  This is so much to handle and process.

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Edit with more connections

sawrajsi to Diannetownzen** (profile) and swarajeb** (profile), they use the same Facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/shintiha.afrin (sawrajsi), (swarajeb), (Diannetownzen).

tamim60 to vpn@675** (profile), as proved by Pandu Geddon (see this link).

tamim60 to CPNpr** (profile), they are using the same BSC address 0xEc0a7D526819ef1D998C4Dca0e5a6e9846480F67 as tamim60 and vpn@675 as seen above (see this link).

tamim60 to MatthewLM** (profile), they are using the same Tron address TJgnXvPNX7mEJ2p2tgba1eWxbNnJMfiwNV as seen in the following threads (tamim60), (MatthewLM).

tamim60 to Rikotin** (profile), they used the same Telegram username @aslam2628 (tamim60), (Rikotin)

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Now that I connected many accounts, it is time to finally have a list of who sends Merit points to whom.  Note almost all accounts connected by Veleor in 2018 are now inactive since 2018 - 2021 except about a dozen, mostly those at the end of their list.  Most of the accounts I found are still active in 2022.

mafoja1:
> November 28, 2022, 1 to Mamun74 (see post here)
CPNpr:
> September 29, 2022, 8 to rojan (see post here)
MatthewLM:
> October 28, 2022, 1 to Marvell1 (see post here)

Last updated, 6th of December 2022

Please note I am not implying any of the Merit recipients are purchasing Merit points from the connected members.  I only want to keep a history of Merit spendings for future reference.  Maybe it helps others investigating.

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**need to temporarily tag them in this post for personal reasons

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Regards,
PrivacyG

[saxydev]

It is the fault of the community, not of the merit buyers. The users in question of buying had decent posts, but nobody cared to send any kind of merit. For them there is no merit receiving so they can't send to others as well. Because merit is moving arround for some users only 10-20 per year makes it impossible to circulate and attract new users not to look to buy.

So overall, blame yourselves.

[stompix]

The users in question of buying had decent posts, but nobody cared to send any kind of merit.

Can you point to those decent posts?
Cause looking at his history this is all I see:

Bitcoin price already touched in 68k+ in 2021 but it early dropped in very next year.Bitcoin staying $40k around this year even April month bitcoin price was around $40k but this month bitcoin price dropped and hold $31k.I hope bitcoin price will be recover in november's month this year.But market condition very hard to predict bitcoin price. I hope bitcoin price will be more grow like 2021.
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I think it will happen coming days.Now market condition very hard and very hard to predict bitcoin price. This month bitcoin price staying $28k-30k.For my experienced,Bitcoin price was under $25k but it already touched in $68k+ in 2021 too.But bitcoin price early dropped in 2022 and bitcoin price was around $40k previous 2-3 month.I hope bitcoin price will be more improve this year and bitcoin will be more grow in this year.
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Bitcoin price early dropped in 2022 and now huge dropping day by day.Bitcoin already touched in 68$k but now it dropped and reached $19k+.Bitcoin price early dropped in this month cz previous month bitcoin was around $37k+  and it was staying around $40k+.I think bitcoin price will be recover soon and bitcoin price wil be more grow in future.
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Bitcoin price already dumped and touched $17k and too early to happen. But bitcoin price early dropped in 2022 and staying 3-4month around $40k+ but last 2 month bitcoin price dropped  unrespectable. Bitcoin price touched $68k+ in 2021.we know Bitcoin has always up to a new ATH every dip so maybe we see 75k+ next pump.
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I believe bitcoin price still movement correction. Bitcoin price already touched in $68k+ in 2021 but it early dropped in, 2022.Bitcoin price staying around $38-40k+ long time but it dropped and reached under $18k.I think bitcoin price will be more this year.And bitcoin price will hit $30k again in coming days.

Pages over pages of what the price was a year ago and two months ago and ending with the hope of it going up in the future, hundreds of posts with the same structure, the same useless data that nobody needs, the same two or three lines of nothing but you put some numbers there, so it must be a decent post, cause using numbers shows much knowledge. Such wow posts! Much doge impressed!

This is the same shit that has been happening in gambling where everyone is posting the current score and the obvious useless phrase that if team A Scores more goals than team B it will win the game and here you go, the quota for the gambling board done without even knowing how to place a real bet.

[yahoo62278]

It is the fault of the community, not of the merit buyers. The users in question of buying had decent posts, but nobody cared to send any kind of merit. For them there is no merit receiving so they can't send to others as well. Because merit is moving arround for some users only 10-20 per year makes it impossible to circulate and attract new users not to look to buy.

So overall, blame yourselves.

I think anyone Legendary rank should only get 1-2 merits from users if someone is going to merit a Legendary since the merit is not very useful except in giving Legendary ranks more merits to send out, but I strongly disagree that it's our faults that lower ranks aren't merited.

People think that because they met the section requirements, stayed semi on topic, and hit character counts that their post is a good post. They're wrong!!! So many users repeat the same opinions because they're just looking to qualify to get paid in a campaign. They do the minimum as fast as allowed so they make a few bucks, that doesn't mean they posted great quality.

People with good quality posts stick out compared to the majority. Yes, there is some self-scratching but that is happening on all levels, so it evens out IMO.

[The Cryptovator]

Selling merits for merit sources is prohibited. Theymos strongly discouraged from tagging for merit circulation unless there is solid evidence of buy/sell merits. I no longer tag merit abusers if there is no solid proof of buy/sell. Based on suspicions, I believe you should remove him from the campaign without tag. But tag is fine if someone admit he bought merits. You also have your own campaign rules where you can tag if something is punishable.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I've just tagged the three of them, but I doubt very much that we will be able to catch many cases.

There have been so many cases of suspected merit abuse reported in various threads over the years that I'd bet it's well over 100.  I'm sure it would be more than that were it not for the fact that Theymos told the community not to make a big deal about it--but either way, if the community wants to start tagging merit abusers with enough evidence against them, I sure as hell would be fine with it and if the forum detectives start looking closely enough I've no doubt this thread would end up with 1000 pages within a year.

I guess this is a consequence of your weekly merit requirement for the campaign.

No doubt it is, because I've noticed that there haven't been nearly as many threads dealing with merits in Meta.  When somebody like yahoo62278 throws in a merit requirement for a campaign, those shitposters who were lucky enough to get into one of his campaigns start sweating bullets and doing stupid shit like this.

There will be more cases, no doubt.

[JollyGood]

Merit abuse goes on all the time, it is very difficult to keep tabs on all accounts receiving merits and trying to connect them with dubious sending/receiving, that is why those participating in it continue to do it.

One of the accounts was already tagged by me before I found this thread, I had read the previous feedback about merit selling but kept mine limited to 1xbit. I have tagged the other two accounts for merit abuse and added them to my trust exclusion too.

~DEGATON44
~mafoja1
~MAMUN74

There have been so many cases of suspected merit abuse reported in various threads over the years that I'd bet it's well over 100.  I'm sure it would be more than that were it not for the fact that Theymos told the community not to make a big deal about it--but either way, if the community wants to start tagging merit abusers with enough evidence against them, I sure as hell would be fine with it and if the forum detectives start looking closely enough I've no doubt this thread would end up with 1000 pages within a year.

[philipma1957]

Well bitcointalk is one of the only forums to sell or rent your signature space .

I have mentioned time and time and time again.

Lets have a signature holiday.

I know it won’t be done but mentioning it is worth while.

What happens is merits were made to have value by this op as he admits to doing.

So who is the bad guy?

the op or the guy that needs to hustle to get a merit.

many don’t earn merits for many reasons some are good but one reason is meriting people is a lot of work.

I give thousands of merits I read for hours on end to give merits out.

I do this because many people deserve merits.