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October 03, 2022, 01:56:08 AM
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although I'm not a religious expert but I think Islam will have no problem with bitcoin,
because many Muslims consider Bitcoin to be the same as fiat money, and in my opinion Bitcoin is not halal and haram but what goods are purchased, if Bitcoin is made to buy liquor, which is clearly forbidden by Muslims then liquor is haram not Bitcoin
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October 03, 2022, 08:32:16 AM
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There have been 4200 religions lived on this earth, religions can be our radar for morality, and spirituality.. apart from that our guiding principle should be well being of our family and society, in a moral way. So I guess pretty yes, you should go for bitcoin till you are earning it legitimately.

Bitcoin is a currency. People were questioning it because of its volatility. It's highly volatile. Every currency is volatile, and every currency faces inflation. A currency cannot be haram just because some people used to do haram things. You may know that alcohol is haram in Islam. But, When it comes to making medicine with alcohol, it is used to cure people. It's Halal. Sometimes you have to see the purpose. Even your Halal-earned money will be haram if you don't pay Jaka.

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October 03, 2022, 04:30:20 PM
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I may not discuss the perception of the proposition or anything related to a religion because indeed I have no capacity in that regard but what I do know is that bitcoin is something that I think is good and can be used as a part that I think can make my life changed.
On the other hand I live in an area where the spread of Muslims here can be said to be the majority but there are several other religions among my neighbors and they are currently in the same unit in Crypto.
As long as some Religions don't prohibit this, as long as the government still doesn't prohibit this then I think that's enough.

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October 03, 2022, 04:33:36 PM
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although I'm not a religious expert but I think Islam will have no problem with bitcoin,
because many Muslims consider Bitcoin to be the same as fiat money, and in my opinion Bitcoin is not halal and haram but what goods are purchased, if Bitcoin is made to buy liquor, which is clearly forbidden by Muslims then liquor is haram not Bitcoin

Bitcoin is money, so if dollars and pounds are legal in Islam, then of course bitcoin and cryptocurrencies should be legal in Islam too.

Do you know any religion that bans bitcoin or consider it wrong? I don't think so. It is governments that ban crypto and it should not be mixed with religions.

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October 03, 2022, 04:46:15 PM
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although I'm not a religious expert but I think Islam will have no problem with bitcoin,
because many Muslims consider Bitcoin to be the same as fiat money, and in my opinion Bitcoin is not halal and haram but what goods are purchased, if Bitcoin is made to buy liquor, which is clearly forbidden by Muslims then liquor is haram not Bitcoin
It's simple to comprehend this, many Muslims today are crypto trader because they seem bitcoin as a means of raising fund. Because it's not written in scripture that this set religious group are for Bitcoin and it never be enshrined in any way, provided that they have consider Fiat currency as a valuable currency, it's applicable with cryptocurrency, i believe that cryptocurrency has no segregation in value, it's a choice of government to adopt and legalize in a particular domain.

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October 03, 2022, 08:33:11 PM
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The islamic countries have negative viewpoints on it and maybe consider it as gambling as it's strictly prohibited in their religion but they are not putting a direct ban on it's usage and you can still see people trading in crypto over these Muslim countries.

There might be some who differentiate on the basis of Halal or Haram but it depends on our actual usage like you are the one who will decide how to use it sp come does it end up in bad situation? It's another form of money only and you can't deny the fact.
Actually Islam does not prohibit the use of anything useful, including Bitcoin. Islam only prohibits actions that harm oneself and others.
Fiat money is something that can be used according to Islamic law, in other words it is halal. However, fiat money also becomes haram if it is used or obtained in the wrong way, such as gambling, selling intoxicating drinks, and others similar to it. If Bitcoin is used or obtained from gambling, then the law is also haram, just like fiat money. So, why do Islamic countries, or Muslims use Bitcoin? Because in Islam it is not haram. And Islam does not view Bitcoin as something negative.
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October 03, 2022, 09:45:06 PM
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The islamic countries have negative viewpoints on it and maybe consider it as gambling as it's strictly prohibited in their religion but they are not putting a direct ban on it's usage and you can still see people trading in crypto over these Muslim countries.

There might be some who differentiate on the basis of Halal or Haram but it depends on our actual usage like you are the one who will decide how to use it sp come does it end up in bad situation? It's another form of money only and you can't deny the fact.
Actually Islam does not prohibit the use of anything useful, including Bitcoin. Islam only prohibits actions that harm oneself and others.
Fiat money is something that can be used according to Islamic law, in other words it is halal. However, fiat money also becomes haram if it is used or obtained in the wrong way, such as gambling, selling intoxicating drinks, and others similar to it. If Bitcoin is used or obtained from gambling, then the law is also haram, just like fiat money. So, why do Islamic countries, or Muslims use Bitcoin? Because in Islam it is not haram. And Islam does not view Bitcoin as something negative.
Any religion in the world would really be having on the same perspective when it comes to bad or good things.There are just some things which they do really differ on some things but on generally
we do aim for dealing on whats good and whats bad.Lets just respect if Islam does have this kind of beliefs then so be it.
Whether bitcoin is permissable or not then its their own choice whether these people would be following into their religion or would totally be that going opposite.
So it does depend on someone because not all people would really be that following on what their Religion told them to do so.

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October 03, 2022, 10:55:25 PM
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Actually Islam does not prohibit the use of anything useful, including Bitcoin. Islam only prohibits actions that harm oneself and others.
Fiat money is something that can be used according to Islamic law, in other words, it is halal. However, fiat money also becomes haram if it is used or obtained in the wrong way, such as gambling, selling intoxicating drinks, and others similar to it. If Bitcoin is used or obtained from gambling, then the law is also haram, just like fiat money. So, why do Islamic countries, or Muslims use Bitcoin? Because in Islam it is not haram. And Islam does not view Bitcoin as something negative.
There will be some opinions stating that bitcoin is allowed or not in Islam, because every perspective has a different view. There are some scholars who argue that bitcoin is halal and permissible but with some conditions and there are also scholars who forbid it because it causes some losses. Regarding the legality of the use of cryptocurrencies and the law of their use in business transactions according to Islamic law, there are still pros and cons (khilafiyah) among economists and scholars.

And in essence, there are still many pros and cons and it is not absolutely illegal or haram to say. Those who like bitcoin, use it for positive things, of course, it will not bother others or themselves. As long as it doesn't hurt anyone, it won't be a problem.

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October 03, 2022, 11:56:46 PM
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There have been 4200 religions lived on this earth, religions can be our radar for morality, and spirituality.. apart from that our guiding principle should be well being of our family and society, in a moral way. So I guess pretty yes, you should go for bitcoin till you are earning it legitimately.
Agreed, and in some stance it is upto the user. Different people used to give different briefing based on the religious book, but we don't know which interpretation has got the real meaning. End of the day every religious book preach about love and how to give love. As said when it is all about morals and we're not against it, using bitcoin is right.
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although I'm not a religious expert but I think Islam will have no problem with bitcoin,
because many Muslims consider Bitcoin to be the same as fiat money, and in my opinion Bitcoin is not halal and haram but what goods are purchased, if Bitcoin is made to buy liquor, which is clearly forbidden by Muslims then liquor is haram not Bitcoin

Bitcoin is money, so if dollars and pounds are legal in Islam, then of course bitcoin and cryptocurrencies should be legal in Islam too.

Do you know any religion that bans bitcoin or consider it wrong? I don't think so. It is governments that ban crypto and it should not be mixed with religions.
It is not documented whether bitcoin is halal or haram in Islamic view. Bitcoin is legal in some Muslim countries.But they have started transactions through different banks. Indonesia, Turkey, all these countries also have the use of Bitcoin.But from my point of view I want to say from here as we earn our livelihood. But for us it is completely halal and permissible.Because we work hard to earn this money.

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November 27, 2022, 11:56:37 PM
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although I'm not a religious expert but I think Islam will have no problem with bitcoin,
because many Muslims consider Bitcoin to be the same as fiat money, and in my opinion Bitcoin is not halal and haram but what goods are purchased, if Bitcoin is made to buy liquor, which is clearly forbidden by Muslims then liquor is haram not Bitcoin

Bitcoin is money, so if dollars and pounds are legal in Islam, then of course bitcoin and cryptocurrencies should be legal in Islam too.

Do you know any religion that bans bitcoin or consider it wrong? I don't think so. It is governments that ban crypto and it should not be mixed with religions.
It is not documented whether bitcoin is halal or haram in Islamic view. Bitcoin is legal in some Muslim countries.But they have started transactions through different banks. Indonesia, Turkey, all these countries also have the use of Bitcoin.But from my point of view I want to say from here as we earn our livelihood. But for us it is completely halal and permissible.Because we work hard to earn this money.
Nowhere it is mentioned, but some countries claim the based on the element that it is being created without any backing. Muslim countries have different banking rules, the banks never provide interest on our savings, but they have interest when we get loan and repay. There'll be controversy on such topics. It is one's personal choice whether to use it or not without thinking halal as it is connected to the religious belief.

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I think yes because many people are using bitcoin as there job now feeding there families and other stuffs.
And bitcoin isn't like gambling, betting etc
There's nothing dat is prohibited in bitcoin so I believe bitcoin is permissible.

I don’t find till where bitcoin permissible or not permissible. But i think, Muslim countries are different rules. But bitcoin is decentralization crypto currency It's not like gambling or casino. Many countries payment system bitcoin pay now and many countries government accepted bitcoin. And i don’t find also where Islam said about bitcoin negativity.
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November 28, 2022, 09:28:59 AM
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I think investing in bitcoin is permissible as long as there is understanding of the risks and what is being bought, I don’t think there should be a green light for Muslims to invest in all cryptocurrencies. Personally, after talking with a friend about proof of work, I decided to sell all of my proof of work coins. And I don’t really regard them as halal, or legal, according to Islamic law. But neither is fiat currency, and yet we are forced by circumstances to use it. If I had to pick and choose using a fiat currency or a proof of work digital currency, I’m sure there is less harm and more benefit to a Proof of Work currency.
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November 28, 2022, 09:44:32 AM
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I think yes because many people are using bitcoin as there job now feeding there families and other stuffs.
And bitcoin isn't like gambling, betting etc
There's nothing dat is prohibited in bitcoin so I believe bitcoin is permissible.

I don’t find till where bitcoin permissible or not permissible. But i think, Muslim countries are different rules. But bitcoin is decentralization crypto currency It's not like gambling or casino. Many countries payment system bitcoin pay now and many countries government accepted bitcoin. And i don’t find also where Islam said about bitcoin negativity.
I'm not a muslim but I think there are no direct reason for our muslim brothers and sisters to ban or prohibit usage of this technology unless if it would be linked to gambling because you are somehow betting to something everytime you are investing in a token. But it is not really gambling if the idea of gambling is taking advantage of your opponent (well it depends on the game because sometimes it is the house which is your opponent) or simply you are not taking anything from your opponent(the idea of gambling in its broadest sense). It will only be between investor and the market which gave me the idea that they won't be prohibited from using it. But if I'm wrong please correct me.

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November 28, 2022, 10:05:01 AM
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It's interesting to note that Bitcoin ideals actually do not violate any moral codes hence should be permitted by the national laws, as laws are not suppose to prevent people from using or doing what is right or good for them as long as the right/good things are not abused. .
List of Bitcoin Ideals: Decentralization, Transparency, Immutability, Privacy/anonymity, , Public Consensus, Proof of Work(don't trust but verify work done before rewarding the worker in trustless condition),  fair-rules, Trustlessness/Permissionless (just like in nature, Bitcoin require little to no Trust/Permission from people before it can be used), Deflation rather than debasing people's currency value via inflation, etc.


Unfortunately, altcoins like ethereum which has adopted a very corrupt consensus mechanism like proof of stake has become immoral hence should not be legalized or permitted. Anyone who does it is on its own.
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November 28, 2022, 10:15:16 AM
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I think yes because many people are using bitcoin as there job now feeding there families and other stuffs.
And bitcoin isn't like gambling, betting etc
There's nothing dat is prohibited in bitcoin so I believe bitcoin is permissible.

I don’t find till where bitcoin permissible or not permissible. But i think, Muslim countries are different rules. But bitcoin is decentralization crypto currency It's not like gambling or casino. Many countries payment system bitcoin pay now and many countries government accepted bitcoin. And i don’t find also where Islam said about bitcoin negativity.
Well this has been discussed so many times if bitcoin halal or haram on our brothers and sisters in Islam country.
But expert shows that it is halal [legal] because it belongs to the property or asset when it comes to haram [illegal] when there is an object of buying and selling which is not allowed on their culture. I am not in that religion but I think everyone is free to use bitcoin and that is permissible, the thing that is prohibited to them when they are involved in trading is a sort of gambling to them.









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November 28, 2022, 10:25:17 AM
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I think yes because many people are using bitcoin as there job now feeding there families and other stuffs.
And bitcoin isn't like gambling, betting etc
There's nothing dat is prohibited in bitcoin so I believe bitcoin is permissible.

I don’t find till where bitcoin permissible or not permissible. But i think, Muslim countries are different rules. But bitcoin is decentralization crypto currency It's not like gambling or casino. Many countries payment system bitcoin pay now and many countries government accepted bitcoin. And i don’t find also where Islam said about bitcoin negativity.
Well this has been discussed so many times if bitcoin halal or haram on our brothers and sisters in Islam country.
But expert shows that it is halal [legal] because it belongs to the property or asset when it comes to haram [illegal] when there is an object of buying and selling which is not allowed on their culture. I am not in that religion but I think everyone is free to use bitcoin and that is permissible, the thing that is prohibited to them when they are involved in trading is a sort of gambling to them.

I belong to a Muslim country and i can tell you that bitcoin is Halal. There is nothing in bitcoin that can make it Haram in Islam.

However, when it comes to trading bitcoin and altcoins, then Muslims should know that Future trading is not allowed in Islam and only Spot trading is allowed. Unfortunately, almost everyone is involved in future trading which directly deals with interest, but no one thinks in this sense. Anyways we can make a separate discussion topic on that if anyone needs to know in detail the reasons for this halal and haram concept in trading.

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This means nothing. If Islamic people are in a country that prohibits the use of Bitcoin, there is no way. If they are in a country that allows Bitcoin, they will still use Bitcoin.

"According to Isl, no one is allowed to make money through any illegal activities, or lending interest is not allowed. Gambling or money earned from gambling is also holy in Islam."
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December 02, 2022, 08:53:40 AM
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Bitcoin actually is possibly the most Islamic form of money. No interest, no empty backing of the value, and equal share of risk Wink

There have been 4200 religions lived on this earth, religions can be our radar for morality, and spirituality.. apart from that our guiding principle should be well being of our family and society, in a moral way. So I guess pretty yes, you should go for bitcoin till you are earning it legitimately.

We're assuming all religions are moral, but I believe some are not. Either that or morals have changed. Some might say the modern immoral way of getting wealthy is also a religious way of life led by bankers and politicians Wink If you try to be moral, you fail their game.

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December 02, 2022, 09:21:17 AM
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This means nothing. If Islamic people are in a country that prohibits the use of Bitcoin, there is no way. If they are in a country that allows Bitcoin, they will still use Bitcoin.
How can a country that forbids the use of Bitcoin know who is using it if they are not using exchanges that require KYC, which may expose their personal information and lead to their arrest, as the case may be? However, it has nothing to do with religion because everyone has the right to buy whatever they want.

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"According to Isl, no one is allowed to make money through any illegal activities, or lending interest is not allowed. Gambling or money earned from gambling is also holy in Islam."
Bitcoin is not an illegal way to make money, and it is not prohibited in Islam because it differs little from traditional marketing of goods, which was referred to as trading in the past. I see it as simply purchasing assets and holding them for an extended period of time, which I believe is legal.

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