Trustdice.win , UPD: TRUSTDICE SCAM, 2138$ USDT confiscated. (SOLVED)

[Laki21000]

Why am I being ignored? representative, why don't you provide evidence of my violations? I honestly do not want to quarrel with anyone, and so on, I did not violate anything and was an honest player, but the absurdity that is happening, I still cannot believe that I am being accused of something.

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[Poika5]

@Laki21000, you should start a complaint against the Trustdice casino:
https://www.askgamblers.com/submit-complaint

We strongly advise against this, but if the OP approves to share his betting information publicly, I can discuss it with our CEO to see if we can make an exception and disclose some of his betting data, which overwhelmingly indicate late betting abuse.

I think OP is waiting for you to share this data.

Where did you find that? thank you very much friend!

Compared your betslips vs Bet365 lines(Using Betsapi)
https://betsapi.com/rs/bet365/5486040/HOU-Rockets-vs-DEN-Nuggets etc

Why am I being ignored? representative, why don't you provide evidence of my violations?

Because he works in marketing, and he doesnt know anything about sportsbetting.

[Laki21000]

@Laki21000, you should start a complaint against the Trustdice casino:
https://www.askgamblers.com/submit-complaint

We strongly advise against this, but if the OP approves to share his betting information publicly, I can discuss it with our CEO to see if we can make an exception and disclose some of his betting data, which overwhelmingly indicate late betting abuse.

I think OP is waiting for you to share this data.

Where did you find that? thank you very much friend!

Compared your betslips vs Bet365 lines(Using Betsapi)
https://betsapi.com/rs/bet365/5486040/HOU-Rockets-vs-DEN-Nuggets etc

Why am I being ignored? representative, why don't you provide evidence of my violations?

Because he works in marketing, and he doesnt know anything about sportsbetting.

I tried to apply, they refused me, they write that violations of the terms and conditions must be addressed to the licensee

[Pmalek]

I received a PM from OP to take a look at this case, so here I am.

1338 on withdrawal pending. https://imgur.com/a/zlDxUSx

This screenshot doesn't show your pending withdrawal, btw. But I can see it in one of the other links that you posted.

Simply put, we notice that the OP has been practicing "late bets strategy",

That can't be the case judging by how high the odds are on the screenshots OP posted. If the player made a live bet on an odd of 2.20, that wager had to be placed long before the event in action was about to end. Otherwise, the odds would have been much lower.

Let's say I make a bet that a football match will have over 2.5 goals at the odds of 2.20. As the match progresses, the live odds for this market will either increase or decrease depending on the result. If there has already been two goals in the match, and depending on how much time is left, bookmakers will either permanently close the +/- 2.5 goal markets or they will introduce new ones like the +/- 3.5 or +/- 4.5 goals. If the time period for an event is close to ending and the outcome is highly unlikely, you wouldn't have those kind of odds. They would either be much lower or much higher. If you are in the 88th min at a score of 1:0 and you wanted to place a bet for +2.5 goals, those odds would be huge because it's unlikely that 2 more goals will be scored. Opposite of that, if you wanted to place a bet that there will be -2.5 goals, those odds would be quite small. In OPs case, he has quite big odds of 1.7, 1.9, 2, and even higher. There is no chance that a legit bookmaker would accept live bets on events that are about to end at those odds where the outcome favors the bettor unless there is something really fukced up with your site.   

Please tell us how you can know the result in advance in American football? in nba basketball?

It's not about knowing the result beforehand or being a psychic and knowing how it will end. One way of abusing late bets is too be at a venue and use a bookmaker that updates its markets with several seconds delay. If that delay is greater than 8-10 seconds and the bookmaker allows live betting for that event, you will have an edge and be able to bet on things that already happened. Do you understand? The other way is using a fast source (TV channel, satellite feed, radio, stream) and again place bets with a bookmaker that uses delayed odds changes and suspensions for markets. That's the theory.

As OP has publicly admitted, he placed bets after the game ends when the outcome of the game becomes available.

OP's knowledge of English is bad. As I said previously, that can't be. The odds wouldn't be like that for live bets. I can find any game that is live and demonstrate this for you. Anyone who has been involved in betting long enough will know this. I am going to tag Trofo here. @Trofo is someone I know from the Croatian local and he enjoys betting. He also works with Sportsbet and organizes several of their pools. Let's see what Trofo says about these accusations and whether what I am saying is right or wrong.

[Laki21000]

I received a PM from OP to take a look at this case, so here I am.

1338 on withdrawal pending. https://imgur.com/a/zlDxUSx

This screenshot doesn't show your pending withdrawal, btw. But I can see it in one of the other links that you posted.

I apologize for the typo, corrected

Please tell us how you can know the result in advance in American football? in nba basketball?

It's not about knowing the result beforehand or being a psychic and knowing how it will end. One way of abusing late bets is too be at a venue and use a bookmaker that updates its markets with several seconds delay. If that delay is greater than 8-10 seconds and the bookmaker allows live betting for that event, you will have an edge and be able to bet on things that already happened. Do you understand? The other way is using a fast source (TV channel, satellite feed, radio, stream) and again place bets with a bookmaker that uses delayed odds changes and suspensions for markets. That's the theory.

I roughly understood what you mean, sit in the stadium, or watch the broadcast without delay, I don’t know much about it, but I think it’s unrealistic, my proof that I’m not in America is that I was sitting on the site from a Russian IP address and I live in Russia, and I can also take a picture of an international passport where there is no American visa, so I can assume that it is very difficult or even impossible to place bets ahead of broadcast on matches of the NBA type, American football, or even impossible, since this is a top championship where the delay is no more than 2 -3 seconds, a bet on TrustDice is accepted for about 5-10 seconds, if I bet on some kind of volleyball 3 league of Madagascar, women, then I think this is possible as an example. I made bets solely for the purpose of entertainment, which I wrote above.

[Pmalek]

so I can assume that it is very difficult or even impossible to place bets ahead of broadcast on matches of the NBA type, American football, or even impossible, since this is a top championship where the delay is no more than 2 -3 seconds.

It's difficult and highly unlikely, but not impossible. Bookmakers know what they are doing and they have partnerships with companies that take care of these things for them, so pundits can't take advantage of late bets, for example. But any partnership costs money. If they are cheap, they might go for other options where the provided service is not satisfactory and provides live data with delays. I don't think that's what is happening here based on the odds I see.

And let me repeat again. It's not about placing bets ahead of broadcast because you can't see into the future to know what will happen. It's about placing bets with a bookmaker that is late to update odds or suspend betting altogether for certain markets on time.   

[Poika5]

It's difficult and highly unlikely, but not impossible.

Correct, these days this only happens in smaller & ineffective markets(But OP bets NBA/NFL).

If they are cheap, they might go for other options where the provided service is not satisfactory and provides live data with delays.

Trustdice uses the same provider as Duelbits/Bitsler, from my experience their provider is quite sharp.

[Laki21000]

so I can assume that it is very difficult or even impossible to place bets ahead of broadcast on matches of the NBA type, American football, or even impossible, since this is a top championship where the delay is no more than 2 -3 seconds.

It's difficult and highly unlikely, but not impossible. Bookmakers know what they are doing and they have partnerships with companies that take care of these things for them, so pundits can't take advantage of late bets, for example. But any partnership costs money. If they are cheap, they might go for other options where the provided service is not satisfactory and provides live data with delays. I don't think that's what is happening here based on the odds I see.

And let me repeat again. It's not about placing bets ahead of broadcast because you can't see into the future to know what will happen. It's about placing bets with a bookmaker that is late to update odds or suspend betting altogether for certain markets on time.   

I’m at a dead end and I don’t know what to do, all the same, I would suggest making a note @coinbox1 that these are scammers, I’m tired, they don’t give me answers, they ignore both on the forum and directly through the mail, they don’t provide evidence of violations, and they judge without them OK, in what country in the world is a criminal charged and imprisoned without evidence of violations of the law? this is just an example. But still, the matter does not move on, the site administration does not give any explanations, on my part now the same position, I am not guilty of anything, the explanations on the rates have already been sent by @poika1

Houston Rockets vs Phoenix Suns 2.1 +5.5
During the timeout( 4th 7:09 Full timeout (Timeout #4)
+EV vs Bet365 2.000 +4.5

Milwaukee Bucks vs Los Angeles Lakers Over 239.5
During the halftime
Some other bookies had 240.5, so probably -EV bet by OP.

Denver Nuggets total vs Houston Rockets 2.45 odds
During the timeout (4th 9:07 Full timeout (Timeout #4)

Cleveland Cavaliers vs Philadelphia Sixers Under 205.5 1.75
During the timeout (4th 8:45 Full timeout (Timeout #4)
+EV vs Bet365 Under 202.5 1.869

Boston Celtics -6.5 1.9 vs  Miami heat
During the timeout (2nd 8:37 Full timeout (Timeout #2)
+EV vs Bet365 -7.5 1.833

Houston Rockets +12.5 1.6 vs Denver Nuggets
During the delay of game, bet was placed 05:48, when the score didnt change.
3 - 02:50   89:96   -   +9.5   -   11/29 05:49
3 - 02:52   89:96   2.000   +9.5   1.769   11/29 05:46

6 bets, 0 late bets, all bets were placed after the game was paused.

, his message is the difference with the violation that they assigned to me, apparently the trustdisse admins decided to make themselves a present and buy a new villa in GOA for the new year

[LEVSKI7]

contact a lawyer in curacao.if there is someone else even better=good

[Pmalek]

The explanations they have given regarding the late bets that were allegedly wagered and accepted by their systems at the end of the match aren't satisfactory in my opinion. I have explained why in my previous posts here. The last thing their casino representative Coinbox1 said was that they would speak with the CEO to check whether they can release some sensitive information about the case or not. Proof has to be posted from their side. I am going to PM Coinbox1 and ask him to reply in this thread again and answer the questions I had.

[Coinbox1]

Hello everyone,

Just a quick update that the permission has been granted by our CEO to share some detailed info here. I will draft a detailed explanation and update this post.
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Unfortunately, Pmalek's interpretation of the OP's behaviors is incorrect. (Yet still we appreciate your involvement). OP frequently placed bets at the end of the game following a specific pattern. Below comes an example.

The Denver Nuggets and Houston Rockets game began on November 30 at 9:00 PM EST, which is 2:00 AM on December 1 in UTC time.

On December 1, at 3:54 AM, 1 hour and 54 minutes into the game, OP placed a bet on it. Strangely, though, the odds he managed to catch was comparable to those at the beginning of the game. So extremely favorable and abnormal odds.




In 2022, a NBA game will typically last 2 hours and 13 minutes. Therefore, when the OP placed the bet, it was very much the end of the game, when the overall outcomes became easily predictable, or even already available if we are talking about a shorter than average game.

If the player made a live bet on an odd of 2.20, that wager had to be placed long before the event in action was about to end. Otherwise, the odds would have been much lower.

We agree with you Pmalek that this should not happen at all. But somehow OP managed to make it happen, and made it happen repetitively. We do not know why such bets were accepted by our sports provider either. It could be a bug found then exploited by the OP, and/or an error on their part, or something beyond at least my comprehension. We are still investigating how this happened with our sports provider.

Nevertheless, OP's betting behavior clearly constitutes "late betting abuse" which is prohibited by our T&C. He captured some early- or pre-game odds that should have ceased to exist hours ago.

In addition, OP's betting behaviors also violate our Sports Betting Rules:
* In the case of any obviously incorrectly displayed or calculated prices, we reserve the right to void betting. This includes a deviation of more than 100% in the pay-out compared to the market average.
* In the case of an incorrect settlement of markets, we reserve the right to correct them at any time.

As a result, the overwhelming evidence suggests that OP is an abuser rather than a regular sports bettor. No legit sports bettor can pull this off.

The bottom line is that OP somehow found a way to capture extremely favorable odds that are not supposed to be available at the time he bet it. And he managed to do it repetitively. Such odds do not exist for other players. This is by no means a regular sports bettor.

Hope this helps.

TrustDice Team

[Poika5]

The Denver Nuggets and Houston Rockets game began on November 30 at 9:00 PM EST, which is 2:00 AM on December 1 in UTC time.

On December 1, at 3:54 AM, 1 hour and 54 minutes into the game, OP placed a bet on it. Strangely, though, the odds he managed to catch was comparable to those at the beginning of the game. So extremely favorable and abnormal odds.

The score was 79:106(w 9 Minutes left)

https://betsapi.com/rs/bet365/5486040/HOU-Rockets-vs-DEN-Nuggets


(Im 2 hours in front of UTC)

Nevertheless, OP's betting behavior clearly constitutes "late betting abuse" which is prohibited by our T&C.

So everybody who bets during the 4th quarter gets banned?

We agree with you Pmalek that this should not happen at all. But somehow OP managed to make it happen, and made it happen repetitively. We do not know why such bets were accepted by our sports provider either. It could be a bug found then exploited by the OP, and/or an error on their part, or something beyond at least my comprehension. We are still investigating how this happened with our sports provider.

'Under 124.5 2.45 Denver Total' looks standard, because Denver had 106 points w 9 minutes left.
You are wasting your Providers time.

Therefore, when the OP placed the bet, it was very much the end of the game, when the overall outcomes became easily predictable, or even already available if we are talking about a shorter than average game.

Im speechless by your "evidence", it feels like trying to explain sportsbetting to my grandma.
Trustdice should close their sportsbook ASAP, and hire some people who have experience in this field.

[Pmalek]

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Anyone who is familiar with US sports will know that their matches NEVER begin on time. So, any conclusions you make regarding how long a match lasts based on the starting time is wrong. I am familiar with the MLS, NBA, and NHL (I can't say anything for other leagues/sports), and they always begin with a delay. That can be as little as 10 minutes or even up to 30-40 mins.

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Those wagers that Coinbox1 mentioned are for total points count for a team. BetsAPI doesn't have odds for those markets. But based on the timestamps, I can confirm that the wager was made at the beginning of the 4th quarter with about 8-9 minutes until the end of the match. There is nothing wrong with betting at that time. However, we can't compare the offered odds on Trustdice with other bookies because the stats are missing on BetsAPI. Do you have any other source similar to BetsAPI that shows data for additional markets.

@Coinbox1
Can you show a different example for something you consider a late bet where we can confirm the data? But not a bet on the totals for a team. 

[Poika5]

Those wagers that Coinbox1 mentioned are for total points count for a team. BetsAPI doesn't have odds for those markets. But based on the timestamps, I can confirm that the wager was made at the beginning of the 4th quarter with about 8-9 minutes until the end of the match. There is nothing wrong with betting at that time. However, we can't compare the offered odds on Trustdice with other bookies because the stats are missing on BetsAPI. Do you have any other source similar to BetsAPI that shows data for additional markets.

I know but Denver Under 124.5 2.45, with 9 minutes to play is reasonable. Def not a "bug" from their provider.

The Denver Nuggets are averaging 26 points in the fourth quarter:
https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/4th-quarter-points-per-game
26/4 = 6.5
26-6.5 = 19.5

With 9 minutes to play, on average Denver scores 19.5 points.
106 + 19.5 = 125.5




But why do they call it late betting when OP placed both bets during the timeout?

[Pmalek]

But why do they call it late betting when OP placed both bets during the timeout?

It's not late betting, they are wrong. The wager was placed at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Most sportsbooks accept live bets up until the last minute of play. The available markets depend on the score. But you can't allow people to place bets on your site, accept those bets, and then say they are invalid because they were late bets when in fact they weren't.

We can't check if the odds on Trustdice were off if we can't compare with the data that was available on other sportsbooks at the same time. That's why a different example is needed.

@Coinbox1
Show an example of a late bet that can be independently verified please.

[Laki21000]

Nevertheless, OP's betting behavior clearly constitutes "late betting abuse" which is prohibited by our T&C. He captured some early- or pre-game odds that should have ceased to exist hours ago.

In addition, OP's betting behaviors also violate our Sports Betting Rules:
* In the case of any obviously incorrectly displayed or calculated prices, we reserve the right to void betting. This includes a deviation of more than 100% in the pay-out compared to the market average.
* In the case of an incorrect settlement of markets, we reserve the right to correct them at any time.

As a result, the overwhelming evidence suggests that OP is an abuser rather than a regular sports bettor. No legit sports bettor can pull this off.

The bottom line is that OP somehow found a way to capture extremely favorable odds that are not supposed to be available at the time he bet it. And he managed to do it repetitively. Such odds do not exist for other players. This is by no means a regular sports bettor.

Hope this helps.

TrustDice Team

I read your accusation in my favor and I’m just shocked by them, your accusations simply do not coincide with reality, if they were true your provider would have canceled my bets long ago, but now you already attribute to me that you can return the bet with the wrong odds or an error in the market, above, Mr. @poika1 gave you evidence that there is nothing wrong with my bet, it was not made at the end of the match, and without mistake, you are also trying to attribute new accusations to me, which is not entirely correct on your part, because now you are trying to catch on to any snag so as not to honestly pay me my winnings, honestly this is ridiculous, I'm just now watching the scene in the theater as the prosecutor is trying to accuse the victim of what he did not do, your messages simply do not match what is happening, please pay me my fair winnings and conduct honest business on your part, I am open to communication, I am ready to provide you with any information and prove to you my honesty, but to unfortunately, I see that you are trying your best to totally ignore me, which is not entirely correct of you, the trump cards are of course on your side, because in your possession is my winnings, which in my opinion you appropriated illegally, it’s very strange, @poika, I didn’t even know such services are what I cited as an example and figured out the bets, thank you very much friend, you obviously know more than the trustdice security service

I also want to say @pmalek that I found this crypto casino here on bitcointalk, I registered here on November 3 and started looking for a good crypto casino, I saw that the casino is responsive and openly responds to players, makes contact (so I thought), I registered 6 -November 8 there and began to place bets

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I don't know why many casino gambling site when their user won huge amount and try for withdrawing always make it difficult, acquiring KYC should apply at the beginning when user deposit fund and not try it after they won and withdraw huge amount. I have checked with your withdrawal history and have several time withdrawing success but what happen with last withdrawing have been reviewed and need to submit KYC?

Keep up with your account problem and I don't agree with World Cup have huge volume of withdrawing become reason why your withdrawing not process instant.

[Coinbox1]

Hello Pmalek,

Anyone who is familiar with US sports will know that their matches NEVER begin on time. So, any conclusions you make regarding how long a match lasts based on the starting time is wrong. I am familiar with the MLS, NBA, and NHL (I can't say anything for other leagues/sports), and they always begin with a delay. That can be as little as 10 minutes or even up to 30-40 mins.

As a reputable casino & bookie, we try our best communicate with the Bitcointalk community, but when you say NBA games "always begin with a delay", it doesn't seem consistent with what I (the marketing guy behind this post) know.

I no longer watch NBA these days, but when I did, delays of over 10 minutes were rare. My knowledge might not be the most up-to-date and perhaps NBAs do always start with a delay these days. Therefore, could you kindly provide a reliable source of statistics supporting the claim that NBA games "always begin with a delay" and "can be as little as 10 minutes or even up to 30-40 mins"?

Thank you.
TrustDice Team.

[Poika5]

Hello Pmalek,

Anyone who is familiar with US sports will know that their matches NEVER begin on time. So, any conclusions you make regarding how long a match lasts based on the starting time is wrong. I am familiar with the MLS, NBA, and NHL (I can't say anything for other leagues/sports), and they always begin with a delay. That can be as little as 10 minutes or even up to 30-40 mins.

As a reputable casino & bookie, we try our best communicate with the Bitcointalk community, but when you say NBA games "always begin with a delay", it doesn't seem consistent with what I (the marketing guy behind this post) know. I no longer watch NBA these days, but when I did, delays of over 10 minutes were rare. My knowledge might not be the most up-to-date and perhaps NBAs do always start with a delay these days. Therefore, could you kindly provide a reliable source of statistics supporting the claim that NBA games "always begin with a delay" and "can be as little as 10 minutes or even up to 30-40 mins"?

Thank you.
TrustDice Team.

Why do you think this matters at all? We already know when OP placed his bets.
What are you even trying do say at this point? That every customer who bets during the 4th quarter gets banned?
Your Provider offers late game betting because it makes money for their clients(Trustdice, Bitsler, Duelbits etc).

On December 1, at 3:54 AM, 1 hour and 54 minutes into the game, OP placed a bet on it. Strangely, though, the odds he managed to catch was comparable to those at the beginning of the game. So extremely favorable and abnormal odds.

The Denver Nuggets are averaging 115 points per game, how is under 124.5 comparable to 115? Do you even understand that lines move during the game? If Denver scores 44 points in the first quarter it will move Denver 'team total' from 115.5 to 127.5 etc.

[holydarkness]

Hello everyone,

The Denver Nuggets and Houston Rockets game began on November 30 at 9:00 PM EST, which is 2:00 AM on December 1 in UTC time.

On December 1, at 3:54 AM, 1 hour and 54 minutes into the game, OP placed a bet on it. [...]

Hi, we met here. So I followed Pmalek's advise on the other thread about four eyes... Let's hope my brain can catch up with these piling and crossing-each-other cases. I'd like to begin with me coming clean that I have little to no knowledge in basketball, let alone NBA betting, so this is quite an uncharted territory for me.

With that in the air, let's make sure we are all in the same page. You accused OP of late bet cheating, that much I know for sure, but am I right to assume that the following scenario is what you tried to convey:

That during 1 Dec, OP place a bet between Nuggets and Rockets game, which start at 02.00 their local time, add the assumption that NBA never plays on time, and although you'd like to say that based on what you know a delay is rare, it's still there, they still have to introduce team, sing anthem, etc. --yes, I quora-ed this one-- so let's combine what a stranger on Quora said with Pmalek's suggestion about the delay, let's agree on the shortest span possible to warm up, sing and to introduce people, etc., a 10 minutes, which place us in a situation where the actual game play at 02.10.

Now, as I've warned you all, this is an uncharted territory for me. So a funny but long story that could be very short if I want to --but I don't--, I've spent three four five hours digging the internet for things, realized I provided wrong data during my final proof read, re-searching the net, and finally got the right video... only to realize that the thing I'd like to prove is already served here. Anyway, as I don't want these three five hours thrown into trash, I think it still can contribute as a supporting evidence for the timestamp.

Now, I don't know if there's an easier way to actually know how long does the game lasted --oh dear, how naive I was two hours ago, certainly there is, as evidenced far below. I took what I can to get this info, which ultimately lead me to this video¹ where someone gave kinda live comments on the said game --why???--

To save you all from having to watch the entire video --if you don't want to-- allow me to put some important points based on the video timeline, which a rough estimation in a sense that it is not down to a precise second, give or take five to ten seconds because the time displayed by the "scoreboard" is not a live countdown, they updated the MM:SS based on the event happened on the field. Let's go ahead.

The video is 03:06:25 long, with the game itself started --roughly-- at 00:00:38 with 1 min and 26 seconds already on its way and ended at 01:59:00. At 00:23:07 the first quarter ended, at 00:25:49 the second quarter started; the thing I wanted to point out here, the video did happen in real time because according to this page, rest time between Q1 and Q2 is 1 minutes and 30 seconds --or two minutes, not sure which one is which. With that in our hand, lets skip waaaaayyyyyy forward to the end of the video, 01:59:00 where the video owner ended his live commentation for the game --I didn't watch what heppened for the next 1h6m-- with 1 minutes and 24 seconds left on the game.

Based on the video, because it already begun one and a half minutes before the video started and it ended one and a half minutes after the video creator closed his scoreboard, and because if anyone watched the video they would learn that 30 secs left on their timer could stretch to a very very long minutes, it won't be wrong to say that the entire game lasted more than 2 hours, let's say 2 hours and 3 minutes just for convenience.

Taking these numbers into our clock, as the final result, the game would start at 02.10 and ended at 04.13. As you said that OP placed their bet on 03.54, that'll be around 19 minutes before the game ended. And if we take this number back to our video, 19 minutes before 01:59:00 would be 01.40.00ish on the video, which....



If the image is not clear enough, it shows 09:07 --this is where, when I typed this number, I realized that the same information acquired at an easier way was already provided by Poika5-- of quarter 4, definitely a very very long time before the end of the game. May I remind us all again, how 30s can stretch very long, as proven how 9 mins on the scoreboard translates to roughly 19 minutes before the game actually ended. So, the accusation of late betting where OP placed their bet at the end of the game is not true, at least not for this bet. You can submit another to be reviewed, though.

Hello Pmalek,

As a reputable casino & bookie, we try our best communicate with the Bitcointalk community, but when you say NBA games "always begin with a delay", it doesn't seem consistent with what I (the marketing guy behind this post) know.

I no longer watch NBA these days, but when I did, delays of over 10 minutes were rare. My knowledge might not be the most up-to-date and perhaps NBAs do always start with a delay these days. Therefore, could you kindly provide a reliable source of statistics supporting the claim that NBA games "always begin with a delay" and "can be as little as 10 minutes or even up to 30-40 mins"?

Thank you.
TrustDice Team.

Here, the "statistics", I added a few extra seconds to search for it --literally above my Quora result--, enjoy.

NBA games start approximately 10 minutes late because there are announcements of players, warmups and analyses from broadcasters. Then there is a national anthem as well as other pre-game activities that people enjoy watching.

This applies to 99% of the matches. There are practically no cases when games start on time and in this article, we will further explore more details that concern the late start of matches.

As for the reliability, I don't think we really need a reliable source to prove that NBA didn't start on time, almost every sport event never played on time. When did the last time you turned on your TV at 16.00 and boom, suddenly you see 22 people chasing one little round boy on a huge grass field? Or at 21.00 and you see a man punched someone else with a killer hook while hundreds of people cheering them up? With no commentation or any other opening at all? Yeah.


¹No, I am not related at any degree with the owner of that video, give him a like or subscribe or whatever if you want to.