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January 05, 2023, 11:45:59 PM
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People who believing into spiritual aspects in trading or investing are lacking in experiences; once you gather knowledge and experiences then you start believing into your skills by leaving off any kind of external factors.
I believe in spirituality in life but to say that someone who's good in trading and investing yet, not yet well with financial, there has nothing to do with spiritual about it. There are I know of spiritual law but it's not really connected to this.

I agree that it's about lacking of experience.

Don't know how to manage money, finances and someone might have just been from the lowest up to the top and then is having hard time on keeping up on what's happening to himself so, spending is like becoming a YOLO thing.
Spiritual aspects when it comes to trading and investing are just few points to consider, but it’s not really that significant. However, if you both trade and invest without knowledge, skills and experience, then you should not expect for it to be successful too. They can still be profitable for some time but definitely, those profits will not be sustainable.

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January 06, 2023, 05:41:03 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to eradicating poverty
They might be having some mental issue which could easily lead to mistakes. And trading emotionally in this situation has to be the main thing. And also those traders who don't have proper knowledge and education about trading could also make the same mistake. Hence, they still trade and invest but instead of making profit, they lose.
For this, I don't think there are any connection with spiritual problems.

It could also be that they are just lying, just as there are gamblers out there which are very vocal about their wins while they hide their losses, there are many traders that are like that too, so while we may have the impression they are making a fortune while they trade as they post about all the profits they have obtained, the truth is that their losses surpass by far those profits, so even if they try to sell themselves as successful traders the reality is nowhere near as optimistic as they try to make us believe.

Could be true and you need to understand that you can't become successful without loses. Profits and loss are both part of the system. But your profits have to be more than your loses.
And I think those who brags about their wins, they are just putting targets on their back. Why announce your personal life with others, have some privacy, man. And these days, we can't trust no one on the internet. Life has become so hard and we are still making it harder.
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January 07, 2023, 11:16:42 AM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

There is no spiritual forces that's can hinder profit if the trader can actually trade. Perhaps those people who are your point of reference don't know exactly what they are doing.
I don't know how many traders you have come in contact with or how you come to this conclusion but what I do know is - there are many traders put there profiting from their trade.

Spiritual forces has nothing to do with trading.  If one is not making profits in trading it means the person still need to learn more about trading. Op just need to forget about that spiritual force mentality and understand the reality of trading and still have to putting in more effort to get more knowledge about trading.  The only thing that can be as a result of loss is trading is lacking the important keys of trading that is always required to make profit.

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January 07, 2023, 01:45:18 PM
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Spiritual aspects when it comes to trading and investing are just few points to consider

How are they few points to consider ? If we are trading with the fear of spiritual connection to the way we trade or the outcome of it then we may be tied to it and not put more effort to learn and get better. The market is not connected by just one person but by many buyers and sellers who don't know each other and our success rate depends on how smart we are in the analysis and market decision we take.
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January 07, 2023, 02:05:27 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
something that changes our lives is hard work and consistency. in trading and investing there is nothing of the sort. if you are still losing in investing and trading, it means you do not have enough skills and knowledge.
the spiritual aspect that might make sense is when you start learning to be calmer in any situation. faced with no emotion and panic. maybe it would be more psychologically correct.

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January 07, 2023, 05:09:16 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
something that changes our lives is hard work and consistency. in trading and investing there is nothing of the sort. if you are still losing in investing and trading, it means you do not have enough skills and knowledge.
the spiritual aspect that might make sense is when you start learning to be calmer in any situation. faced with no emotion and panic. maybe it would be more psychologically correct.

It is more likely to be emotional and mental not spiritual at all. Spiritual may only came in once we felt that we are wrong spending too much money and losing it in an instant or it is just like conscience. We should learn how to trade little by little so we will not have a problem when we hit sl, we should learn to limit ourselves and we should know that even in trading and investing there's no guarantee that it is 100% will give us ROI we should expect loses as well so that it will not bother us and make us frustrated.
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January 07, 2023, 06:57:38 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
something that changes our lives is hard work and consistency. in trading and investing there is nothing of the sort. if you are still losing in investing and trading, it means you do not have enough skills and knowledge.
the spiritual aspect that might make sense is when you start learning to be calmer in any situation. faced with no emotion and panic. maybe it would be more psychologically correct.
I dont see any connections about spiritual or something when it comes to this one which it is true that this would be more sort of on psychological aspects on which it do make you really think that it is really that

something wrong in this regard but it all matters on how you do make up trades.If it turns out that it is profitable or you do make money but still have that uncontented feeling
then it doesnt automatically connects out on spiritual aspects.

Its impossible that someone do still feel on being broke after the positive things that do happen into you.Unless if you are extremely greedy and isnt satisfied on what you are currently earning.

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January 11, 2023, 03:12:25 PM
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Spiritual forces has nothing to do with trading.  
Any other mumbo jumbo for that instance. But there are a lot of reasons why people keep trying to connect these things in the era of science.

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If one is not making profits in trading it means the person still need to learn more about trading. Op just need to forget about that spiritual force mentality and understand the reality of trading and still have to putting in more effort to get more knowledge about trading.  The only thing that can be as a result of loss is trading is lacking the important keys of trading that is always required to make profit.
We often make mistakes and overlook them while blaming others for the losses. If someone bought shitcoins instead of bitcoin then they are at fault. If someone bought at an all time high and now asking for profits in a bear market, they are at fault. These may seem simple but these are so common among newbie traders.

All that spiritual bullshit needs to be kept aside and simple method to buy low and sell high should be instituted. Make money from the selling difference, it is a simple math but does not get into your wee brains while still pondering over weed-induced spiritual highs that ruin your lives.

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Well, investing and speculating in the market are two very different processes for me, I think things should be separated and operated in a specific way, in my case I really like investing, obviously I put Bitcoin as the infallible option, not altcoins, because I don't trust altcoins and now less because the market is quite volatile, so for me the only thing I could put into investment is just Bitcoin, now to speculate in the market I like to do it with Bitcoin itself and with relatively strong currencies, with the altocins I see almost all of them as pump and dump, whichever way it is seen, it is the best way as I have discovered it.

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January 14, 2023, 09:48:55 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.

We are all human beings in this world, but the ways in which we earn money are very different. You can't just start trading and become wealthy, though there are times when doing so will make you happy because you are making money, but most of the time you might feel like you made a mistake.
This is not the ideal strategy for someone to improve their financial situation if they continue to trade.

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January 18, 2023, 05:20:30 PM
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Lol, nothing spiritual here if you ask me. Have you heard of the word persistent? Yes, so maybe those people are persistent.
There's a saying that goes - If you keep doing the same things, you will keep getting the same results. Maybe these traders like you said who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite
the effort they put to eradicating poverty are using the same trading strategy that is not working for them. Maybe they are unwilling to be open-minded and tryout a new trading strategy.
Anyways, if you are stuck in this loop, my candid advise is to stop trading for a couple of days. Use that time for self-reflection.

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January 18, 2023, 07:16:56 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
Everyone strategy of making money is different despite they are doing same business. Trading and investing does not grant your wealth but the methods you are using to do so, many people just started their crypto trading two years back and they are now living fine and some people 4 years and their still struggling in living comfortably because those who are living fine now were able to discovered unique aways of trading.and even for investors it all depend on what you invested will determine your profits. so, we don't expect all investors to have same standard of living because they are not investing same amount of money. Always know the higher you invest in good thing the higher you will make profit in that thing.

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January 19, 2023, 04:05:32 PM
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Lol, nothing spiritual here if you ask me. Have you heard of the word persistent? Yes, so maybe those people are persistent.
There's a saying that goes - If you keep doing the same things, you will keep getting the same results. Maybe these traders like you said who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite
the effort they put to eradicating poverty are using the same trading strategy that is not working for them. Maybe they are unwilling to be open-minded and tryout a new trading strategy.
Anyways, if you are stuck in this loop, my candid advise is to stop trading for a couple of days. Use that time for self-reflection.
They have the wrong mindset when they get into trading, investing or whatever. Yes, they only expect profits without thinking about the losses they will receive. I don't deny that maybe everyone has the same goal in the end, namely profit, myself included. But I mean they don't think about the risks that go hand in hand in it.
Running it will not be as easy as seeing other people running it, meaning that there must be knowledge that we must learn beforehand. We also have to manage everything related to the things we do, for example financial management, risk management and so on.

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January 28, 2023, 09:19:11 PM
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let me start out by laughing out loud, cos you sound very much like my nigerian friend, who is very funny indeed.  trading and investing can be a difficult and uncertain endeavor, and it's not uncommon for traders and investors to experience periods of financial struggle, regardless of their level of consistency or effort.

There are many factors that can contribute to a trader or investor's financial success or failure, including market conditions, personal circumstances, and individual skill and experience.

it is important to remember that no one is completely immune to financial struggles and that it is a common human experience.

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January 28, 2023, 09:43:59 PM
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expression of dissatisfaction in life management
and it's natural for those who get bad luck in seeking the luck of life...
but being consistent in trading and also investing has not determined success in changing lives and this doesn't just happen in both jobs, spiritual and emotional strength quision two different lines I think OP knows that...
try to find the consistency of a job by not relying on one way because freedom from poverty has a way from another way, when we find it here is what consistency really means

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January 28, 2023, 10:55:09 PM
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expression of dissatisfaction in life management
and it's natural for those who get bad luck in seeking the luck of life...
but being consistent in trading and also investing has not determined success in changing lives and this doesn't just happen in both jobs, spiritual and emotional strength quision two different lines I think OP knows that...
try to find the consistency of a job by not relying on one way because freedom from poverty has a way from another way, when we find it here is what consistency really means
Human beings is really like this on which they arent really that get easily contented for whatever they had already that attained which its no surprise at all.Lets say that trading career
had been successful and turns out that you are already that making profits and able to be that sustainable but still you are really that crying out and thinking that you arent happen
or having that dissatisfaction without pointing out the reason.Whether on what it would be but still it cant really be blamed out because there are ones
who are really that not just grateful on what they had achieved or wants something more.
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February 02, 2023, 03:10:34 PM
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If a person is consistent then it does not mean that he will necessarily get profit because sometime the market suddenly alters and all of the hopes become useless. I think that if an individual loses regularly then may be he does not have any experience or may be he is using some wrong planing.

Other thing is that trading is just for enhance your present income but if you did not succeed then surely you will get experience, also trading is not related to the genetic abilities. Although brilliant abilities comes as a result of inheritance but cryptocurrency is not related to the genes and genetic characters.

It is the hardworking, experience and something luck which will give you better results.

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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
Could you believe I couldn't stop laughing reading your post? I guess you are a Nigerian, perhaps some black part of Africa. Frankly, a thing like spiritual could be present, but they target a few sets of people, so it's irrelevant since the majority are losing in retail trading/investments. Professionally, based on my experience, people do not understand what trading and investment are, they are rushing in and out and approaching them wrongly.

This causes their losses, and since you can't make money through them, you will lose, hence the reason for their poverty. This will continue until they get it right.

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February 02, 2023, 06:45:55 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
Could you believe I couldn't stop laughing reading your post? I guess you are a Nigerian, perhaps some black part of Africa. Frankly, a thing like spiritual could be present, but they target a few sets of people, so it's irrelevant since the majority are losing in retail trading/investments. Professionally, based on my experience, people do not understand what trading and investment are, they are rushing in and out and approaching them wrongly.

This causes their losses, and since you can't make money through them, you will lose, hence the reason for their poverty. This will continue until they get it right.
Who would really be that sad on the time that they are making money or being profitable with trading or something that they are engaging into? When you do know into yourself that you are really that making money
and making yourself get out from poverty and making or having that feeling of being sad just because you arent that contented or looking for something?

This is actually a personal kind of viewpoint since not all would really be that able to feel such condition which it is really impossible for you not to be happy and contented if you do
saw that you are pretty doing well specially on trading and investing. Being not contented is really just a matter of each everyones perspective.

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February 06, 2023, 07:16:33 PM
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I sit-down to wonder why traders who are consistent in trading and also investing still remain very broke despite the effort they put to erradicating poverty,but it still seems like there is some sort of unforseen and spiritual forces controlling the physical.Or should it be foundational curse from the forefathers affecting the present circumstances?or is it that the poverty is inherited? Or is it a gene or chromosome?.These are questions that that I tend to ask.
Could you believe I couldn't stop laughing reading your post? I guess you are a Nigerian, perhaps some black part of Africa. Frankly, a thing like spiritual could be present, but they target a few sets of people, so it's irrelevant since the majority are losing in retail trading/investments. Professionally, based on my experience, people do not understand what trading and investment are, they are rushing in and out and approaching them wrongly.

This causes their losses, and since you can't make money through them, you will lose, hence the reason for their poverty. This will continue until they get it right.
What makes you think he is a Nigerian/African? Is it because the people there are spiritual? But what about on other countries? I think all are the same. Or do you mean something? Hmm. Spiritual does exist and it can be possible that it's one of the cause on why we lose on trading or on any other activities that we are doing but their effect is not 100 percent. Other than to be spiritual we also need to learn more or practice more (be consistent).

I believe this is the major thing that can makes us successful. Some people are consistent and yet still fail because they are following the wrong program. Sometimes, we should also learn to switch and realize our mistakes early.
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