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December 14, 2022, 03:04:36 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Just as it is applicable to casinos same way we have many gamblers who are abusers of the gambling sites, yet we still have some particular set of gamblers out of their no patience will just have to lay complaints on every encounters they have even when been attended to, i believe there's a process to the administration of every challenges with casinos, that's why we have many of the casinos available for one to choose his choice should incase not satisfied by one, such gambler can always change to another with better offers.


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December 14, 2022, 03:31:17 PM
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anyone will never be satisfied with the services and conditions that have been set by the casino, sometimes for the sake of fighting fraudulent users sometimes the casino is firm in stopping it by taking serious action as OP mentioned, but again everyone's trust is to play gambling based on players active and have good experience in casinos, so far no casino is completely clean from accusations, but they keep going and all accusation problems can be solved with valid evidence if there is no evidence then the accusations will disappear by themselves  Wink

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December 14, 2022, 03:33:34 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
Every casino will have some flaws since it is operated by humans. I don't think this is a bad sign. Because when a problem occurs we will get its solution and developers will also pay attention to its issues in the future. A casino gambling company is not built in a day. It gradually matured and then came to the gamblers. But what matters is what error you get and how professionally it is handled by the authorities. If I get a good response from them naturally after an error then it has no effect on the gambling. Moreover, I also agree that no one can claim a 100% flawless gambling platform.

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December 14, 2022, 03:36:50 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I believe that most of the scam accusations against casinos are just frustrated gamblers who made a big loss and are looking for a way to vent. And what better way than besmirch the reputation of the online gambling casino which took all their money? Its a bit silly but understandably quite a human reaction. That being said, sometimes there are scam casinos that get what they deserve when somebody exposes their scam. But that happens much more rarely than disgruntled gamblers letting off steam. So you should take any scam accusation, especially those without proof, with a grain of salt.

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December 14, 2022, 04:10:00 PM
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I believe that most of the scam accusations against casinos are just frustrated gamblers who made a big loss and are looking for a way to vent. And what better way than besmirch the reputation of the online gambling casino which took all their money? Its a bit silly but understandably quite a human reaction. That being said, sometimes there are scam casinos that get what they deserve when somebody exposes their scam. But that happens much more rarely than disgruntled gamblers letting off steam. So you should take any scam accusation, especially those without proof, with a grain of salt.
You are right that scam accusations for casino sites are lesser than reports from new token projects, but every scam accusations can be checked from detailed reports that have been alleged to a particular casino, but if a report is not valid to bring down the reputation of the casino then the complainant should be penalized for reputation low trust accounts, so even if they make false accusations against the casino they don't have valid evidence, so the purpose of the report is because of the impingement factor for high losses in gambling.

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December 14, 2022, 04:15:09 PM
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I believe that most of the scam accusations against casinos are just frustrated gamblers who made a big loss and are looking for a way to vent. And what better way than besmirch the reputation of the online gambling casino which took all their money? Its a bit silly but understandably quite a human reaction. That being said, sometimes there are scam casinos that get what they deserve when somebody exposes their scam. But that happens much more rarely than disgruntled gamblers letting off steam. So you should take any scam accusation, especially those without proof, with a grain of salt.

I completely agree, we should not always blame the casino, because in the accusation threads, we often see how it is the user who had done something wrong and instead of accepting that he has been caught, he writes a false accusation in the forum. Therefore I do not agree with the premise, with the title of the thread, which asks why all casinos have bad habits, when it is not so, there are only a few and in general if all were so bad this section would not have so much traffic nor would it be so important for Bitcointalk.org.

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December 14, 2022, 04:18:14 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
It doesn't really mean that if one casino receives a scam accusation mean that it'll affect their reputation as it is normal for a platform to receive one. Also, based on the common complaint that you've mentioned, not all of it is the casino's fault but most likely the gambler or user's fault. Each casino has their own set of ToS and if a user violated it, they'll be subjected for some punishments such as account frozen and confiscated funds. Another issue is that these users don't like the service that casino provides and complains about it.




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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
Sorry to say but you are confused yourself mate, issue is not with casino but with their users.
Think about this deeply, have you gone round the world? Or your country, or maybe your neighborhood and found a business that is 100 percent perfect with no body coming to complain about one or two things that wasn't done well?
Of course there is no such business anywhere, it is the same with online casinos, you never can please every customer, many gamblers are unpleasable, that is no matter how you attend to them, they will still find a thing or two to complain about, some will see the rules staring them in the face and still refuse to read, some read it but still on purpose break it, and when the casino takes action on them, they go from forum to forum creating scam accusations against that casino.

So with all honesty, the problem is not with casinos having a bad habit, but with customers that cannot be pleased.

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December 14, 2022, 05:38:43 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
If we look at this from a logical perspective, we would also come to realize that almost all institutions that has anything to with money always have one or two complaints leveled against them by their customers. Hence, why casinos aren't left out. Mostly as gambling is involved, these complaints are bound to come in. This is why the terms and conditions and other licenses are stated and gotten, so as to defend themselves. A business is meant to make money, therefore it would prove beyond doubt against any of its decision and why it is right.

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I've also noticed this on the accusations thread and almot all the casinos if not all have a negative reviews which ranges from scams, freezing of accounts and lots more and it is also disheartening and and discouraging.
The most  annoying aspect of all the mentioned challenges mentioned by OP, what I hate the most is asking for a KYC after stating that you don't do KYC and maybe after a winning, you then start asking for KYC to me is a malicious way of getting money from people and I personally don't take this issue lightly, if you want to do KYC or you know that at some points, might ask for KYC, I would rather prefer you also make this clear to your customers.
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 #91

You can’t blame all the projects blindly, because some projects are still working in project as a long in forum and real. So fake blaming of projects are not a good one. It’s true many projects get issues after some months. But if the project comes with the intention to scam the people, we can’t control them. Instead we should not participate in such gambling and skip them. We need to investigate of the websites to avoid of getting scam. In this forum some good campaign running by the trusted project. If they had funds to run a campaign, surely they have funds to pay the winners for sure.
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December 14, 2022, 08:15:22 PM
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You can’t blame all the projects blindly, because some projects are still working in project as a long in forum and real. So fake blaming of projects are not a good one. It’s true many projects get issues after some months. But if the project comes with the intention to scam the people, we can’t control them. Instead we should not participate in such gambling and skip them.
People here on this forum is really that too reactive for whatever issues and complaints on which a certain user or individual would throwing out on a certain platform.If things had been proved out and does

have those solid evidences then this is where the public or community would really be making out those conclusions and would really be warning out people on not to play.

Just like on what you do have on your signature.  Cheesy. There's lots of issues and its been highly frowned upon on this forum.
There's no perfect casino though but leaving those problems and issues remains unresolved then it would be an another story.

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December 14, 2022, 08:31:39 PM
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You can’t blame all the projects blindly, because some projects are still working in project as a long in forum and real. So fake blaming of projects are not a good one. It’s true many projects get issues after some months. But if the project comes with the intention to scam the people, we can’t control them. Instead we should not participate in such gambling and skip them.

Well, some new casinos around are still without any scam accusations, like Neodice from my signature.

But as traffic goes up problems can/will appear, and hidden bugs and issues will come to the surface, it's why all casinos need to work all the time... developing and upgrading! With many bonuses and promotions, they need to look for cheaters and exploiters basically all the time. It's definitely not an easy task!

With many players on the site (the only info I was able to find is about Stake: "The platform has a strong track record with over 200,000 registered players, 8500 active depositors, and 3000 high rollers. So far, the platform has supported over 12 billion bets and has 1500 registered affiliates") there must be some complaints, for all sorts of reasons. And I guess many issues are solved, but the point is that things happen, and if someone is a fair player any issue will be solved.

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There will always be attacks.
You should also consider an attack from another casino to tarnish the name of the other so that its customers will find another. Who's next in line? Them.
I doubt there will be a perfect casino or sportsbook out there, errors will happen that will lead to complaints, and some are lying to their teeth just to gain free money.
But whenever a reputable gambling site had made its roots on how trustworthy they are, we should also look at its side of the story.
The "Customer is always right" belief is so abused.
That's not a healthy competition anymore. Those butthurt casino owners should take the time to improve their service and not by focusing on how to damage the reputation of the other fair casinos.

That is the only way for them to attract more players because the players from other fair casinos won't just believe easily on the random complaints made by someone else unless maybe if that casino have been proven to be guilty or they do also experience the same issue. Not all casino got a bad habit but every casino are not perfect. There will always be flaws but a good casino will always try to fix it so that it won't cause an inconvenience to their customers.

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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

anyone can open a scam accusation against a casino a site or user.
keep in mind that many scam allegations are created by users who have not complied with the TOS of these sites... or are just trying to attempt for a scam!

Regardless of whether it is true or not, anyone can do something like this.
I think the answer to your question is this. As long as this possibility exists, allegations against a site will exist whether or not they are true.

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There will always be attacks.
You should also consider an attack from another casino to tarnish the name of the other so that its customers will find another. Who's next in line? Them.
I doubt there will be a perfect casino or sportsbook out there, errors will happen that will lead to complaints, and some are lying to their teeth just to gain free money.
But whenever a reputable gambling site had made its roots on how trustworthy they are, we should also look at its side of the story.
The "Customer is always right" belief is so abused.
That's not a healthy competition anymore. Those butthurt casino owners should take the time to improve their service and not by focusing on how to damage the reputation of the other fair casinos.

That is the only way for them to attract more players because the players from other fair casinos won't just believe easily on the random complaints made by someone else unless maybe if that casino have been proven to be guilty or they do also experience the same issue. Not all casino got a bad habit but every casino are not perfect. There will always be flaws but a good casino will always try to fix it so that it won't cause an inconvenience to their customers.
It might not be sounding to be ethical but this is how reality works on which there are ones who would really be taking up some sort of action just to make their competitors do looks bad on throwing up with those false

accusations.It might be looking so bad and devastating or non ethical but there are business owners who do have this kind of mindset which they couldnt really be able to do some game fair play and would rather

be minding and looking on destroying others reputation just to make it look that their platform would be a good choice or option.Well, lets just get used to that since
it is really something that do really happen not only to this industry but also in other industries as well.

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December 14, 2022, 09:54:43 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
Every person has their complains and grievances against anything. You can't please everybody so to speak. I'm not saying it is the customer's fault, but oftentimes you would find that the company, or in this case the casino, is operating in its utmost capacity, and still people will find ways to complain. What sets great casinos from bad ones is how they react to these complaints. Bad ones would just sweep it under the rug and neglect their customer's problems, while some will go above and beyond in offering solutions to customer problems. At the end of the day, it is all up to you if you feel like a casino you are betting on isn't giving you the proper treatment, but watch how they react when you send out a complaint.

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December 14, 2022, 10:19:15 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I'm not sure if I should refer to a thread that doesn't have even the slightest problem. because after all, we can't check each thread one by one. "I mean here in general", because that would take up an awful lot of time. regarding accusations, fraud, and everything here that is related to the discussion of our topic this time. First of all, it is recommended to read the ToS of the gambling site you are using to avoid problems and most cases start from some users who don't know the rules of the game.

On the other hand, some existing casinos clearly have red notes regarding the many complaints from members who use them.  obviously, it should concern us to avoid it. Lastly, every case that happens to every user. whether it's confiscated funds, delayed withdrawals, not paying winnings or whatever it is related to things that are detrimental. it does not necessarily make our judgment to follow the wishes of users or the casino. because after all, we have to study each case by case. after all, these kinds of things will always be there and hard to part with. whether it's because of our own actions, or the reputation of the casino which should be doubted. so in essence, the judgment is in your own hands.

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December 14, 2022, 10:25:59 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
Every person has their complains and grievances against anything. You can't please everybody so to speak. I'm not saying it is the customer's fault, but oftentimes you would find that the company, or in this case the casino, is operating in its utmost capacity, and still people will find ways to complain. What sets great casinos from bad ones is how they react to these complaints. Bad ones would just sweep it under the rug and neglect their customer's problems, while some will go above and beyond in offering solutions to customer problems. At the end of the day, it is all up to you if you feel like a casino you are betting on isn't giving you the proper treatment, but watch how they react when you send out a complaint.
All matters on how things would be resolved out and its true that shit platforms would really just not mind on resolving those issues and those who are on popular ones or top sites will really be
tending to solve out as much as they could in shortest time as possible.Issues and complaints cant really be avoided and it is really just indeed depending onw how these issues would be solved.
Its not bad habits because there's no platform which would really be that perfect.There would be errors or delays that could happen whether it is security triggered or just simply messing up with some
programs or something like that.You could really make out some differentiation on how both in between sites would cater problems like this.

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December 14, 2022, 10:58:08 PM
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If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?
There will never be a single casino that will not receive complaints or involved in an issue. All have their own issues particularly for those who entertained players with negative attitudes too. And before we knew it, it’s the users that are usually at faults and they only end up blaming the casinos. And cases like this will never be avoided even in the future, as long as players will follow their own rules instead of abiding with the casino rules.

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