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December 19, 2022, 09:00:59 PM
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Upside:
  - Potentially less spam from scammers


Downside:
  - Less privacy
  - Another government entity having access to personal data hence👇
  - More potential data breaches (very common sa bansa natin)


In general, it's a no for me. Though unfortunately wala naman tayong choice lol.

Ito talaga ang masakit, kahit na ayaw natin wala talaga tayong magagawa kasi nasa batas na eh. Ako nga nung pagka rinig ko ng balita nito di talaga ako nagka interest masyado chineck ko lang yung post ng mga telco kung pano mag register at kailan ang deadline. Sana nga naman maingatan nila ang data natin (alam nyo na palaging pangako pero nag di-data breach) pero sabi nga ng DITO IT head ba yun na as the years daw goes by mag iimprove daw ang kanilang security so parang sinasabi nila na magkakaroon talaga ng data breach.
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December 19, 2022, 10:27:07 PM
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Upside:
  - Potentially less spam from scammers


Downside:
  - Less privacy
  - Another government entity having access to personal data hence👇
  - More potential data breaches (very common sa bansa natin)


In general, it's a no for me. Though unfortunately wala naman tayong choice lol.

Ito talaga ang masakit, kahit na ayaw natin wala talaga tayong magagawa kasi nasa batas na eh. Ako nga nung pagka rinig ko ng balita nito di talaga ako nagka interest masyado chineck ko lang yung post ng mga telco kung pano mag register at kailan ang deadline. Sana nga naman maingatan nila ang data natin (alam nyo na palaging pangako pero nag di-data breach) pero sabi nga ng DITO IT head ba yun na as the years daw goes by mag iimprove daw ang kanilang security so parang sinasabi nila na magkakaroon talaga ng data breach.

Kung privacy iisipin natin medyo not good talaga itong batas ito pero kung lalawakan natin ang ating pag iisip kung bakit ito ginawa at isina batas siguro maiisip parin natin na kailangan narin ito ma implement. Dahil laganap na talaga ang message spam,scamming at iba't iba pang krimen gamit ang isang partikular na sim card at nahihirapan ang awtoridad sa pag sikil sa kanila dahil mahirao matukoy ang pagka kilanlan ng mga gumagawa ng krimen.

At once na na implement yan tingnan natin kung magkakaroon ba talaga ng ngipin yan dahil alam naman natin sa pinas sa una lang magaling at hindi masyado naipapatupad ang batas pag hindi na ito masyadong napag uusapan.
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December 19, 2022, 11:42:27 PM
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Upside:
  - Potentially less spam from scammers


Downside:
  - Less privacy
  - Another government entity having access to personal data hence👇
  - More potential data breaches (very common sa bansa natin)


In general, it's a no for me. Though unfortunately wala naman tayong choice lol.
Eto yung potential pros and cons na nakikita ko din. Parang mas lamang yung cons and I believe pwede pa mas maging threatening ito given na may more potential data breaches tayo pwede kaharapin sa future. Comelec nga na hack dati, Pano pa kaya ito na mas maraming possible registered users kasi almost lahat tayo ay may sariling phone number na.

At dahil mandatory ito at personally madaming mawawala saakin if ever ma disable yung phone number ko, Pwede kaya ma register ang multiple phone number sa isang pangalan? Iba iba kasi yung multiple phone number user kasi ako especially sa mga registered ewallets ko syempre for security din kaya ganun.
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December 20, 2022, 02:34:14 PM
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Upside:
  - Potentially less spam from scammers


Downside:
  - Less privacy
  - Another government entity having access to personal data hence👇
  - More potential data breaches (very common sa bansa natin)


In general, it's a no for me. Though unfortunately wala naman tayong choice lol.
Eto yung potential pros and cons na nakikita ko din. Parang mas lamang yung cons and I believe pwede pa mas maging threatening ito given na may more potential data breaches tayo pwede kaharapin sa future. Comelec nga na hack dati, Pano pa kaya ito na mas maraming possible registered users kasi almost lahat tayo ay may sariling phone number na.

At dahil mandatory ito at personally madaming mawawala saakin if ever ma disable yung phone number ko, Pwede kaya ma register ang multiple phone number sa isang pangalan? Iba iba kasi yung multiple phone number user kasi ako especially sa mga registered ewallets ko syempre for security din kaya ganun.

Yes pwede iregister kahit ilang sim under one namebasta sundin mo lang mga requirements at kun gunderage dapat may parental consent mag uumpisa na ang registration sa December 27 at meron ang 180 days to register after ng effectivity ng batas na ito bale kabilang na tayo sa 157 countries na nag eenforce ng mandatory sim card registration sa unang taon nito malalaman natin kung effective ba ito panlaban sa mga text scams at iba pang pang iiscam, o makakasama dahil baka magkarron ng data breach.
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December 20, 2022, 04:52:00 PM
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dapat lahat ito mailagay sa isang centralized database,
Hindi ako sang-ayon dito dahil it'd lead to a single point of failure!

Ang tanong paano iyong mga kababayan natin na, walang government issued ids. Paano iyong mga merong fake ids pero mukhang totoo talaga, tulad ng mga drivers license na fake which is common ngayon.
Kahit napaka galing yung gumawa nung pekeng ID, hindi magkakaroon ng match yung ID number nila [sa ibang salita, kailangan may isa ka tlgang government issued ID].

Sino mamamahala ng paglilista,
Yung mga Telcos mismo ang maghahandle nito.
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December 21, 2022, 07:01:47 AM
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May mga SIM laws din ang ibang bansa na nag propose nito or batas na pero hindi naman nag lessen ang criminal activity.
Nacurious ako so I search to back up your claims, and to my surprise, yung findings na meron sila is pretty alarming na parang wala naman nangyayari. Much worse, baka nga mas nakakasama pa.

Some articles that describes the sim registration pros and cons in detail:
- https://www.fma.ph/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Briefing-Paper-SIM-Card-Registration-FINAL-1.pdf
- https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/4351/3820
- https://www.gsma.com/publicpolicy/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/GSMA2016_Report_MandatoryRegistrationOfPrepaidSIMCards.pdf

I don't know pero parang pakitid nang pakitid yung implementation ng ganyang batas lalo na maraming exisiting research na nagsasabi na wala namang effect or mas maraming cons in the first place.

SIM registration has not been effective in curbing crime, but instead has fueled it: states which have adopted SIM card registration have seen the growth of identity-related crime, and have witnessed black markets quickly pop up to service those wishing to remain anonymous. Moreover, SIMs can be illicitly cloned, or criminals can use foreign SIMs on roaming mode, or internet and satellite telephones, to circumvent SIM registration requirements.

But yeah again, since wala naman choice, baka hindi rin ako agad agad magparegister sa ganyan kasi baka midway tanggalin yung effectivity nung batas.
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December 25, 2022, 10:19:07 AM
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dapat lahat ito mailagay sa isang centralized database,
Hindi ako sang-ayon dito dahil it'd lead to a single point of failure!

Ang tanong paano iyong mga kababayan natin na, walang government issued ids. Paano iyong mga merong fake ids pero mukhang totoo talaga, tulad ng mga drivers license na fake which is common ngayon.
Kahit napaka galing yung gumawa nung pekeng ID, hindi magkakaroon ng match yung ID number nila [sa ibang salita, kailangan may isa ka tlgang government issued ID].

Sino mamamahala ng paglilista,
Yung mga Telcos mismo ang maghahandle nito.

Kung itong duopoly pa rin (Smart/PLDT & GLOBE) eh parang binibigyan na talaga sila ng even more power in the form of information, kahit na private company sila. Anong makukuha nating assurance na di nila ibebenta information natin.
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December 25, 2022, 08:55:13 PM
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Kung itong duopoly pa rin (Smart/PLDT & GLOBE) eh parang binibigyan na talaga sila ng even more power in the form of information, kahit na private company sila. Anong makukuha nating assurance na di nila ibebenta information natin.
Actually, meron naman na talaga silang power when it comes sa ating identification lalo't most of us ay may Gcash at Paymaya na nangangailangan ng KYC or ID verification.
About assurance, medjo malabo na makarequest tayo ng assurance na hindi maibebenta yung info natin, pero if ever may leakage na mangyari, reputation ng company nila ang nakasalalay.

I don't know pero parang pakitid nang pakitid yung implementation ng ganyang batas lalo na maraming exisiting research na nagsasabi na wala namang effect or mas maraming cons in the first place.

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But yeah again, since wala naman choice, baka hindi rin ako agad agad magparegister sa ganyan kasi baka midway tanggalin yung effectivity nung batas.
Exactly, hindi sya effective, lalo na sa bansa natin dahil kulang na kulang ang resources at knowledge when it comes to technology. Probably within a year or two, mas dadami yung mga targeted spams, scams at kung ano ano pang kalokohan.

I doubt na ihihinto nila yung effectivity ng batas na yan once na roll out na kahit pumalpak pa. Go with the flow na lang yan hangang may mangyaring masama.
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December 25, 2022, 11:42:47 PM
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But yeah again, since wala naman choice, baka hindi rin ako agad agad magparegister sa ganyan kasi baka midway tanggalin yung effectivity nung batas.

Same thought, baka sa last month of registration na lang din ako magkumahog magparegister.  Kasi makikita naman yan along the process if effective ba or defective ang plano nila.  Sadly baka manindigan ang  gobyerno sa implementation nila at baliwalain ang mga negative proof tungkol sa pagsasagawa ng ganitong implementation.  Alam naman natin ang gobyerno natin kahit na nasa harap na ang pruweba ay inaabot pa ng taon bago madesisyunan.
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December 26, 2022, 03:45:27 AM
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Number one concern ko 'lang with this move by our government would be with how well and secure they store those data, our personal info.
Hopefully, they are well prepared and have enough infrastructure in place to protect our data from potential hacks and leaking.

It would be catastrophic kapag hindi nila binantayan ng maayos 'to. Just imagine all this data being used to manipulate electronic voting or use your info to purchase something online or scam someone.

On the plus side, this could lessen the currently rampant scam and spam texts na talagang nakakabadtrip since around 2 to 3 texts from scammers natatanggap ko daily.  
Law enforcement agencies would be able to easily identify them.
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December 26, 2022, 10:11:04 PM
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Number one concern ko 'lang with this move by our government would be with how well and secure they store those data, our personal info.
Hopefully, they are well prepared and have enough infrastructure in place to protect our data from potential hacks and leaking.

Sa tingin ko ang magsesecure ng information ng mga client dito ay and network provider.

It would be catastrophic kapag hindi nila binantayan ng maayos 'to. Just imagine all this data being used to manipulate electronic voting or use your info to purchase something online or scam someone.

Defintely it would be catastrophic tulad na lang ng nangyring leak sa data ng comelec na kung saan magugulat ka na lang during the election ay nagawan ka na nag ID ng isang kandidato together with your name address at voting precinct.  Nakakatakot lang kasi once mabreach ang data ay fully identified na agad tayo ng mga  hacker.

On the plus side, this could lessen the currently rampant scam and spam texts na talagang nakakabadtrip since around 2 to 3 texts from scammers natatanggap ko daily.  
Law enforcement agencies would be able to easily identify them.

Iyan na nga lang ang magiging kunswelo natin at least bawas sa mga makukulit na scammer na txt ng txt sa mobile phone natin.
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December 27, 2022, 12:35:02 PM
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Code:

1. Visit smart.com.ph/simreg
2. Input your information.
3. Wait for an SMS confirmation


^^ nakita ko lang to at ibinahagi ko na lang dito, simple lang naman yong steps pero di ko pa sinubukan kasi naghihintay pa ako ng feedback sa mga nakapag-register na kung okay ba tong sim registration.

Tanong lang, isa lang ba yong number na kailangan na i-register under our name or pwede multiple?
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December 27, 2022, 01:20:48 PM
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Code:
1. Visit smart.com.ph/simreg
In addition to this, here are the links for Globe and DITO subscribers [take note na hindi gumagana nang maayos yung mga links dahil maraming nagtatry mag register at the same time]:


Tanong lang, isa lang ba yong number na kailangan na i-register under our name or pwede multiple?
Walang limit pero make sure na hindi ka mag register ng ibang tao under your name [you'll be liable for their actions]!
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December 28, 2022, 06:30:13 AM
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Kamusta kayo? nakapag register naba kayo ? Balita ko napaka hirap daw mag register sa mga website ng telco ah. Ako di pa ako nag re-register next year na siguro ako dahil nga for sure dadagsa ang tao and di maca-cater ng mga servers nila ang mga tao. Matagal pa naman ang deadline . Pero dun sa mga naka register na , kamusta naman? Smooth ba ang pag register or palaging error? Nga kamusta yung mga walang ID kumuha nalang kayo ng mga PSA na Birth Certificate?
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Tanong lang, isa lang ba yong number na kailangan na i-register under our name or pwede multiple?
Walang limit pero make sure na hindi ka mag register ng ibang tao under your name [you'll be liable for their actions]!
Wala pa lang limit? Ibig sabihin kung ilan ang sim na gamit mo pwede sila i register under your name? Thanks sa info hindi ako aware dito. Recently ko lang rin nalaman na kailangan na pala i register ang sim.

Kamusta kayo? nakapag register naba kayo ? Balita ko napaka hirap daw mag register sa mga website ng telco ah. Ako di pa ako nag re-register next year na siguro ako dahil nga for sure dadagsa ang tao and di maca-cater ng mga servers nila ang mga tao. Matagal pa naman ang deadline . Pero dun sa mga naka register na , kamusta naman? Smooth ba ang pag register or palaging error? Nga kamusta yung mga walang ID kumuha nalang kayo ng mga PSA na Birth Certificate?
Nag try ako kanina pero hindi makapasok. Siguro dahil sa dami ng nagreregister kaya error na. Try ko na lang siguro next year kapag may magandang feedback sa mga users na naka register na.
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December 28, 2022, 03:27:39 PM
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Kamusta kayo? nakapag register naba kayo ? Balita ko napaka hirap daw mag register sa mga website ng telco ah. Ako di pa ako nag re-register next year na siguro ako dahil nga for sure dadagsa ang tao and di maca-cater ng mga servers nila ang mga tao. Matagal pa naman ang deadline . Pero dun sa mga naka register na , kamusta naman? Smooth ba ang pag register or palaging error? Nga kamusta yung mga walang ID kumuha nalang kayo ng mga PSA na Birth Certificate?
Negative. Pero ang dami kong tawa sa nangyayaring registration process. Sa social media ang daming reklamo. Mabagal daw at yung iba halos hindi maka-pasok.
So, the best option for us would be to wait it out. Hayaan na muna natin 'yung mga telco to sort things out on their end, mahirap na baka sa kung saan pa mapunta 'yang information 'nyo.  Cheesy
May mga naglipana na mga phishing sites so be careful and always double-check the site you're visiting and make sure it's legit.

Tanong lang, isa lang ba yong number na kailangan na i-register under our name or pwede multiple?
Walang limit pero make sure na hindi ka mag register ng ibang tao under your name [you'll be liable for their actions]!
This is good to know since dalawang sims from two telco providers ginagamit ko. Akala ko mapipilitan ako na pumili from one of them to be registered under my name.
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December 28, 2022, 05:02:13 PM
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May mga SIM laws din ang ibang bansa na nag propose nito or batas na pero hindi naman nag lessen ang criminal activity.
Nacurious ako so I search to back up your claims, and to my surprise, yung findings na meron sila is pretty alarming na parang wala naman nangyayari. Much worse, baka nga mas nakakasama pa.

Some articles that describes the sim registration pros and cons in detail:
- https://www.fma.ph/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Briefing-Paper-SIM-Card-Registration-FINAL-1.pdf
- https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/4351/3820
- https://www.gsma.com/publicpolicy/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/GSMA2016_Report_MandatoryRegistrationOfPrepaidSIMCards.pdf

I don't know pero parang pakitid nang pakitid yung implementation ng ganyang batas lalo na maraming exisiting research na nagsasabi na wala namang effect or mas maraming cons in the first place.

SIM registration has not been effective in curbing crime, but instead has fueled it: states which have adopted SIM card registration have seen the growth of identity-related crime, and have witnessed black markets quickly pop up to service those wishing to remain anonymous. Moreover, SIMs can be illicitly cloned, or criminals can use foreign SIMs on roaming mode, or internet and satellite telephones, to circumvent SIM registration requirements.

But yeah again, since wala naman choice, baka hindi rin ako agad agad magparegister sa ganyan kasi baka midway tanggalin yung effectivity nung batas.
Oo nag research rin ako bago pa man malagdaan ng Pangulo yung batas kasi talagang approve na approve ito dahil nga pinsan ni BBM na si Romualdez ang author nito. Na veto ito ni PRRD noon kasi nga daw baka magkaroon ng violation sa protected rights ng mamamayan kaya na veto lang. Was to do the same pero since the extended period ay hanggang 120 days lang at yung SIM ko is connected sa GCASH ko kaya a must parin para sa akin.
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Code:
1. Visit smart.com.ph/simreg
In addition to this, here are the links for Globe and DITO subscribers [take note na hindi gumagana nang maayos yung mga links dahil maraming nagtatry mag register at the same time]:


Tanong lang, isa lang ba yong number na kailangan na i-register under our name or pwede multiple?
Walang limit pero make sure na hindi ka mag register ng ibang tao under your name [you'll be liable for their actions]!

So sa Dito update ko lang po kayo. Via the Dito App po ako nag reg.

Tip na rin since they ask OTP sa beginning ng form, skip niyo muna ung pag generate kasi it expires ilang minutes lang. Better finish the form then generate  otp.
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December 29, 2022, 08:42:59 AM
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Nag try ako sa globe kahit naka plan na ako pero sira website nila nung first day. Aantay muna ako siguro baka mid January nalang ako mag register.

Was to do the same pero since the extended period ay hanggang 120 days lang at yung SIM ko is connected sa GCASH ko kaya a must parin para sa akin.
Dapat gamitin nila yung ibang mga sources din na nag-kyc na mga users tulad ng sa Gcash para mas mapabilis yung verification ng mga nireregister nilang mga sim cards.
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Next year nalang ako magreregister dito dahil sobrang hirap iaccess ng registration website saka mahaba naman yung registration period kaya hindi kailangan mag rush.

Opinion ko lng para sa batas na ito ay napaka delikado kung sakaling magkaroon ng data breach dahil sa mga otp password na sinesend sa sms natin. Sobrang bana pa naman ng kalidad ng government service natin kaya duda ako na may maayos na security ang data storage natin.

Siguro. Ingat nlng tayo sa pag store ng mga mga password natin at ibang mahahalagang data sa cp natin.
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