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December 17, 2022, 09:52:02 PM |
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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.
There were members whom 1XBIT scammed that planned to file legal claims and fight for its closure but we never heard from them anymore, with so many people they've scammed the authorities should close this casino, but they have money and money can corrupt people. Just look at the number of members participating in their campaign, they have three campaigns running right now, two for the World Cup and the other one for their regular campaign, Bitcointalk community has done its part in fact if we did not expose them the number of their victims could be ten times more. You've also got to keep in mind that probably more than 50% of the claims made against 1xbit were likely from cheaters and those looking to try and take advantage of a site. Also, some of those claims were likely from people gambling where it is not legal so those will not be filing a claim anytime soon as well.
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December 18, 2022, 02:13:28 AM |
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Legal action seems too complicated and expensive. If their promotional power is using advertising services outside of forums, then it's good to start reporting that to ad providers. In the end, the bad experiences of users written on various review sites will knock more into public awareness that this casino isn't worth playing.
I have also noticed how 1xbit advertise themselves on reputable crypto webpages, last time I checked some news web I liked I realized they decided to advertise it by publishing a "tutorial" on how bet on the casino. I felt disappointed and never read that web again. I take for granted those web operators do not even know what they are promoting and (even worse) do not care enough to do a simple research before advertising. Because of it, I am not sure how effective would be to alert ad providers about this, they probably prefer to pocket the money and not to ask many questions.
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December 18, 2022, 05:05:26 AM |
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OP, can you stop the wave of scams going on in the world? The same can be said about this casino. As long as there is a demand for such gambling sites, this or that casino will exist, there will be deceptions, and there will be people who are willing to be deceived. Every time a reasonable person invests money somewhere, he should learn more about who he trusts. Yes, casino ads are very common on the internet, but it's worth a little tinkering and hitting a few bottom links in a search and discovering that the 1xBit site is a scam. Do people who go to play there do it? One thing always surprises me: people playing in a casino are usually greedy, but as with their greed, they allow themselves to be so stupidly deceived and give money without hesitation or regret.
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December 18, 2022, 08:26:33 AM |
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As no group and no individual has taken legal action against them, I am beginning to think about the actual number of victims being much smaller than estimated because many of the allegations and accusations against 1xbit are without substance or evidence, mostly just newbie accounts complaining of scams. There is a probability 1xbit are still selective scamming but they have not resolved the open cases against them therefore cannot be trusted. Several attempts have been made to try to discourage members from joining their campaigns and for them to stop displaying the 1xbit signature but as you said the website has not been shut down. If the victims form a group and take legal action as one, then it might be the way forward to try to actually bring an end to their business. but there is no desire for victims to do it. Here is my contribution to try to minimise the impact 1xbit are having in the forum and I would like to thank all those members that are trying to discourage 1xbit signature campaign participants from using the forum to promote them: REQUEST FOR ATTENTION OF: All 1xbit Signature Campaign ParticipantsThe number of victims here can't be large since it's not a gambling forum and most people posting in the gambling sections are only doing it because of requirements from their signature campaign. As we can see in scam accusation threads, people really concerned by what casinos are doing to their customers are just a small handful in reality, and I suspect many of users to post about 1xbit not because they really want to stop a scammy casino but because they need to make a post about a gambling topic actually. Personally I've used this casino in the past and I've been able to withdraw my funds and my winnings without issues, that's all I can say about them. There’s been an open allegation against them on the forum for a long time which is yet to be resolved but the company still goes about its business on the forum, opening new signature campaigns as if nothing’s happened. They are quite untouchable because scams are not moderated on the forum. It’s a tricky thing what to believe, @Saint-loup says he was able to withdraw his winnings from the casino successfully, other people may not be so lucky. some of the problems users are having with the casino are partly their own fault of not reading the T&C and the issues are not particular to 1xbit but other online casinos as well. But they have such a bad reputation that it's embedded in my mind that they are not to be trusted. Personally I wouldn't risk using this casino when there are reputable casinos.
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December 18, 2022, 08:36:42 AM |
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They are paying a premium to advertise the casino. You may find 1xbit banner on every crypto site even the explorer pages, with some 1xbit links. And I think they are also paying winners making it look like they are fixing thier reputation. They are however pretty much judged in this forum for they obviously didn't fix the accusations from bitcointalk users.
Sucks as it may. advertising works and it's not up to us to shut them down, you can only wish people outside the forum do some research.
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December 18, 2022, 10:44:14 AM |
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1XBIT proves that advertising works and there's corruption among influencers and reviewers, there are reviewers that give 1XBIT high ratings and advertising networks accepts money to advertise 1XBIT and since scam is not moderated in this forum they can promote their platform here, but with all the warnings we've given here the gamblers who played here are lesser now they have to spend more to combat these warnings that will stand as long as they do not resolve these accusations.
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December 18, 2022, 01:17:36 PM |
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So far I have tag some 1xxxxxshit campaign participants as untrustworthy users. Whatever the reason they are promoting the campaign
Money. And none of them really care about what feedback you left for them. Of course, money is the reason for all participants. What I really regret is that some users with neutral reputation are also promoting the campaign even though many people have warned them and tagged many participant. I know what I did to few participant wouldn't change things, but at least it could keep more people from promoting the campaign. Only people who are ready for negative tag would apply and promote such a scam casino, so it's hard for me to believe that someone unknowingly applied for and promoted it.
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December 18, 2022, 01:49:42 PM |
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It's beyond logic why they are still running when they are exposed accused and despised by the gambling community here, I guess they are well funded and they managed these by bribing advertising platforms and massive advertising like what they are doing right now here and on other platforms. Really surprising maybe because the organizers see these accusations as baseless because they do not have a pending legal case and the organizers considered these allegations as hearsay, 1XBIT, and 1XBET really know how to present their case, and they have good lawyers.
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December 18, 2022, 02:49:37 PM |
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I have been very doubtful about what you say. Either 1xbit and 1xbet are not the same company or if they are, I'm going to think they are not a scam site. Why do I say this? I just went to the link you put up about Barcelona sponsors and I see that 1xbet has a legal license to operate in Spain. It is a fiat site like the others that operate there, under the supervision of the Directorate General of Gambling, in the Ministry of Consumer Affairs. So 1xbet can't be scamming because it is strictly regulated and monitored. Even so, it could be that 1xbit is scamming, or that 1xbet is scamming in other places, but not in Spain.
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December 18, 2022, 02:55:37 PM |
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I have been very doubtful about what you say. Either 1xbit and 1xbet are not the same company or if they are, I'm going to think they are not a scam site. Why do I say this? I just went to the link you put up about Barcelona sponsors and I see that 1xbet has a legal license to operate in Spain. It is a fiat site like the others that operate there, under the supervision of the Directorate General of Gambling, in the Ministry of Consumer Affairs. So 1xbet can't be scamming because it is strictly regulated and monitored. Even so, it could be that 1xbit is scamming, or that 1xbet is scamming in other places, but not in Spain. They are same casino, I don't get why they have this reputation on this forum tho, since September I do a lot of sportsbetting on their site and I had 0 problems with winnings over 5k...
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December 18, 2022, 07:08:21 PM |
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I don’t think 1xbet and 1xbit are the same company, I know 1xbet as a legitimate casino. Ixbit on the other hand have questionable reputation in the business. I don’t see any solid evidence that links the two casinos together, I have read allegation that 1xbit is affiliated with a new casino being promoted on bitcointalk and the evidence brought forward was that both casinos have similar designs. I think these kinds of allegations are the reason scam isn’t moderated on the forum, the moderators hands are full with dealing with plagiarism and spam reports.
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December 18, 2022, 08:24:04 PM |
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They are same casino,
I don’t think 1xbet and 1xbit are the same company,
1xbet in Spain, 1xbet.es only accepts deposits in fiat currency, it doesn't handle cryptocurrencies, so I don't think what FatFork says is proof that they are a scam. 1xbet.es, the sponsor of Barcelona, is not a casino scam.
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Legal action seems too complicated and expensive. If their promotional power is using advertising services outside of forums, then it's good to start reporting that to ad providers. In the end, the bad experiences of users written on various review sites will knock more into public awareness that this casino isn't worth playing.
Do you believe ad providers consider your feedback? lol. You can't persuade them otherwise as long as they're making good money from 1xbit. With all of the inflation going on, do you think any website would give a fuck? Even Google doesn't give a fuck, and a well-known macelium wallet is promoting them. I don't believe they make any money from forum advertisements, but they simply want to be here because they have money to spend. They are same casino,
I don’t think 1xbet and 1xbit are the same company,
1xbet in Spain, 1xbet.es only accepts deposits in fiat currency, it doesn't handle cryptocurrencies, so I don't think what FatFork says is proof that they are a scam. 1xbet.es, the sponsor of Barcelona, is not a casino scam. You are correct, they are not the same; 1xbet is one of the most popular fiat gambling sites in my country, and I have had an account for over 2 years with no problems with deposits or withdrawals; the company is running smoothly and sponsors major European clubs. If both companies are owned by the same person, I believe there is a misunderstanding because 1xbet is legitimate.
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December 19, 2022, 07:51:03 AM Last edit: December 19, 2022, 09:05:32 AM by FatFork |
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1xbet in Spain, 1xbet.es only accepts deposits in fiat currency, it doesn't handle cryptocurrencies, so I don't think what FatFork says is proof that they are a scam.
I understand that 1xbet.es is registered as a separate company to meet legal requirements in Spain, but I don't understand how this means that it can't be managed by the same owners as 1xbet.com, and all other brands from the same group. Why would they use the same name, logo and software? I have provided evidence to prove that 1xBET and 1xBit are connected platforms (despite their claims to the contrary), but it is up to you to decide if they are a scam. 1xbet.es, the sponsor of Barcelona, is not a casino scam.
How exactly does the sponsorship of a big club prove that they are not scamming their players? So 1xbet can't be scamming because it is strictly regulated and monitored.
So you are claiming that regultated businesses cannot scam their customers? Sorry, but that's a baseless statement, especially considering everything that's happened in the crypto industry this year alone.
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So far I have tag some 1xxxxxshit campaign participants as untrustworthy users. Whatever the reason they are promoting the campaign
Money. And none of them really care about what feedback you left for them. Of course, money is the reason for all participants. What I really regret is that some users with neutral reputation are also promoting the campaign even though many people have warned them and tagged many participant. I know what I did to few participant wouldn't change things, but at least it could keep more people from promoting the campaign. Only people who are ready for negative tag would apply and promote such a scam casino, so it's hard for me to believe that someone unknowingly applied for and promoted it. Again if we want to find reasons then 1st will be money. Legendary is receiving $100 per week if I am not wrong which means $400 per month. It's a lot of money to many countries who have low GDP. 2nd is, they do not care about the negative feedback. May be it became too easy to receive and so many people had it that the scarcity of negative feedback lost. It used to be heavy weighted before when someone used to receive a negative feedback but these days we see many dedicated members have negative feedback because of personal hatred towards each others. Eventually negative feedback lost it's value.
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1xbet in Spain, 1xbet.es only accepts deposits in fiat currency, it doesn't handle cryptocurrencies, so I don't think what FatFork says is proof that they are a scam.
I understand that 1xbet.es is registered as a separate company to meet legal requirements in Spain, but I don't understand how this means that it can't be managed by the same owners as 1xbet.com, and all other brands from the same group. Why would they use the same name, logo and software? I have provided evidence to prove that 1xBET and 1xBit are connected platforms (despite their claims to the contrary), but it is up to you to decide if they are a scam. However, the logos and names (1xbit and 1xbet) are distinct. I don't know about software, however if you are talking about the interfere and betting market 22Bet, Msports also use the same interfere and so many others. and as I mentioned earlier I don't give a fck who is behind as long as the needs of customers is met. In their early days, 1xbet had sponsorship deals with Chelsea and Liverpool, and they are currently the sponsor of Barcelona. With over 3 million NGR customers, 1xbet is by far one of the biggest and most trustworthy gambling site where I hail from. the domain registrant of 1xbet is visible tracing to real life identity while that of 1xbit is not. can they really be the same ownership? 1xbet.es, the sponsor of Barcelona, is not a casino scam.
How exactly does the sponsorship of a big club prove that they are not scamming their players? Barcelona will never allow sponsorship from a scam company, i guess we are missing something Again if we want to find reasons then 1st will be money. Legendary is receiving $100 per week if I am not wrong which means $400 per week. It's a lot of money to many countries who have low GDP.
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Barcelona will never allow sponsorship from a scam company, i guess we are missing something
You were missing something about Barcelona not have partner with 1XBET, regarding from Barcelona update news they have reach agreement deal become partner with 1XBET from 1st July 2019 through to 30 June 2024. I don't know about the same company between 1XBET and 1XBIT after similar named between both casino gambling site. Actually for 1XBET have been official partner for La Liga and if you watch all matches you see 1XBET logo behind goals keeper, I little sure with 1XBET become the same company with 1XBIT. La Liga is not only one competition become official partner for 1XBET but also Serie A have been partner and 1XBET logo always appear behind goal keeper position every matches. You can read here about Barcelona agreement deal become partner with 1XBET https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/news/1263451/fc-barcelona-adds-1xbet-as-a-new-global-partner
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the domain registrant of 1xbet is visible tracing to real life identity while that of 1xbit is not. can they really be the same ownership?
You might wanna check this topic made by efialtis and this post by FatFork and then tell me that its not controlled by the same people. Barcelona will never allow sponsorship from a scam company, i guess we are missing something They probably don't even know about 1xBet-1xBit connection. Everyone here also thought the same until few members connected the dots and proved that its the same group of people operating behind those two (and probably more) gambling sites. But even if a well known club like Barcelona accepts sponsorship from some company, it doesn't mean that company is trustworthy and should be used. Even 1xbit doesn't scam each and every user, but they are doing it in a selective matter that enables them to operate for years.
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December 19, 2022, 03:25:55 PM Last edit: June 28, 2024, 07:25:43 AM by Igebotz |
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Barcelona will never allow sponsorship from a scam company, i guess we are missing something
You were missing something about Barcelona not have partner with 1XBET, regarding from Barcelona update news they have reach agreement deal become partner with 1XBET from 1st July 2019 through to 30 June 2024. I don't know about the same company between 1XBET and 1XBIT after similar named between both casino gambling site. I'm sure i didn't miss that part. the domain registrant of 1xbet is visible tracing to real life identity while that of 1xbit is not. can they really be the same ownership?
You might wanna check this topic made by efialtis and this post by FatFork and then tell me that its not controlled by the same people. This whole thing makes no sense to me. I'm speaking from personal experience, not what random users think about them; shouldn't customer feedback hold more weight in this case? And as a long-time customer of 1xbet, I can tell you that they have proven to be trustworthy since their arrival in my region in 2018. I don't care, and I can't tell what's going on in other regions. My dudes from our gambling Twitter NG are making more than $30k in dollar equivalent and making instant withdrawals without any hassle. And 89/100 of our comedy celebrities are 1xbet ambassadors with customized promcodes ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F06%2F28%2Fhga7a.png&t=665&c=7KM6yqVU44gTmg) This what bitcoin deposit on my profile looks like although I've been using fiat since 2018
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