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December 20, 2022, 09:24:08 PM
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The structure of the forum (not just related to 1xbit but all websites that range between highly suspect and out-and-out scams) is as such that they are not moderated in the forum and that is why they have been space to breathe here.

As you rightly said, we cannot kick them out and as they have lost all concerns about their trust ratings there is not way to tackle them. One way to cause some form of disruption to their plans within the forum is to discourage members from participating in their signature campaigns.

There is no solution to the problem unless they authorities close it down or they actually address every single complaint against them and settle all outstanding issues then start a journey towards being a genuine trustworthy business. Unfortunately, things do not seem like they will change any time soon.
That’s the sad reality but we do our best. You have done a good job tagging members that are greedy enough to wear the signature and promote the casino. I salute you for that. I don’t see any of the signature participant posting on this thread, some of them were quite vocal about the legitimacy of the casino in the beginning. They are now silent though I see them posting in gambling sections.
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December 21, 2022, 01:08:41 AM
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The structure of the forum (not just related to 1xbit but all websites that range between highly suspect and out-and-out scams) is as such that they are not moderated in the forum and that is why they have been space to breathe here.

As you rightly said, we cannot kick them out and as they have lost all concerns about their trust ratings there is not way to tackle them. One way to cause some form of disruption to their plans within the forum is to discourage members from participating in their signature campaigns.

There is no solution to the problem unless they authorities close it down or they actually address every single complaint against them and settle all outstanding issues then start a journey towards being a genuine trustworthy business. Unfortunately, things do not seem like they will change any time soon.

I don’t think 1xbit is a worthy discussion. We know they know we can’t kick them out of the forum. It’s obvious they do not care about their trust rating on bitcointalk, they get enough publicity outside the forum with zero or minimal confrontation. No one except us here at bitcointalk care about the illegal activities of 1xbit, they have zero confrontation on the other websites they advertise their casino. if you search on the internet “is 1xbit a scam” you will find a bitcointalk thread about 1xbit on the first page. That’s why the victims of 1xbit keep on coming here to lay their complaints forgetting that bitcointalk isn’t the official page of 1xbit.

I fully agree! But why such serious institutions as FC Barcelona and Serie A cooperate with them?!? Does that mean they are the idiots? If so, let show them that!!! Why we do nothing outside Bitcointalk? Let's not close ourselves, let's help the whole society!
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December 21, 2022, 01:17:30 PM
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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.
One of the reasons 1Xbit is still on forums is because some users ignore warnings to stay away from this banned site. Users who advertise 1Xbit have been given a red trust which makes it difficult for them to enter other campaigns.
1Xbit will continue to run on this forum as long as there are users who are still greedy collecting Bitcoin fractions from Scam sites. Apart from the BTT forum, 1Xbit also allocates funds for the promotion of their website.

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December 21, 2022, 02:50:29 PM
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One of the reasons 1Xbit is still on forums is because some users ignore warnings to stay away from this banned site. Users who advertise 1Xbit have been given a red trust which makes it difficult for them to enter other campaigns.
I think the other way around, it's because forums don't moderate scams. If the forum will moderate the scam, then we will no longer see 1xbit campaigns on this forum. Also, mods may not think about banning campaign participants as long as they post something sensible, but if these participants post perfunctory and break a lot of rules, they will be banned.

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December 21, 2022, 06:49:45 PM
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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.
One of the reasons 1Xbit is still on forums is because some users ignore warnings to stay away from this banned site. Users who advertise 1Xbit have been given a red trust which makes it difficult for them to enter other campaigns.
1Xbit will continue to run on this forum as long as there are users who are still greedy collecting Bitcoin fractions from Scam sites. Apart from the BTT forum, 1Xbit also allocates funds for the promotion of their website.
They are not ignorant of the scam accusations, the members who apply and participate in the campaign know and understand the consequences of joining 1xbit signature campaigns. Majority of the accounts are already have negative feedback, recently woken accounts, and member accounts with low quality posts which I suspect are part of a large farm.
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December 22, 2022, 01:27:26 AM
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They are not ignorant of the scam accusations, the members who apply and participate in the campaign know and understand the consequences of joining 1xbit signature campaigns. Majority of the accounts are already have negative feedback, recently woken accounts, and member accounts with low quality posts which I suspect are part of a large farm.
Exactly, all these negative trusted accounts will have huge difficulties to find a legitimate campaign after 1xbit because accounts will get irreversibly damaged by promoting 1xbit after joining 1xbit campain. Normally, no scam company will run a signature campaign here when it's well known that the product is a scam. 
But 1xbit is paying for huge advertisements everywhere, also on Coingecko or Coinmarketcap recently.
It's very sad to see how scamming people is still profitable.
1xbit will only go away if everyone is aware that's it's a scam company and as long as new and unexperienced people find out the hard way (get scammed), 1xbit will be around.  Roll Eyes

All we can do is bring up scam accusations against 1xbit, support all flags on all accounts of 1xbit and give out a massive negative trust. 
Every negative trust for 1xbit scammers is deserved!
We can't do much but it's honest work!

If someone hasn't tagged all known accounts of 1xbit, feel free to do so:

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December 22, 2022, 02:45:25 AM
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I am surprised this platform is still running till date.

Don't be surprised because they are paying for press releases and they are supported by big article sites like https://www.publish0x.com/ what's really disgusting is instead of a 1XBIT representative posting the press release the administrator of www.publish0x.com are the one posting it, even if they have a disclaimer on it they are allowing 1XBIT to have a space in their platform.






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December 22, 2022, 04:13:52 AM
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One of the reasons 1Xbit is still on forums is because some users ignore warnings to stay away from this banned site. Users who advertise 1Xbit have been given a red trust which makes it difficult for them to enter other campaigns.
I think the other way around, it's because forums don't moderate scams. If the forum will moderate the scam, then we will no longer see 1xbit campaigns on this forum. Also, mods may not think about banning campaign participants as long as they post something sensible, but if these participants post perfunctory and break a lot of rules, they will be banned.

There are scenarios on how an admin can ban a campaign, there are lots of guidelines you can read in this thread:

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Well, that's my point. Thank you for clarifying the meaning of my post above.
Speaking of sloppy or low-quality posts, those who advertise 1xbit very rarely make quality posts. I very often see them on gambling boards with all kinds of different postings that have no purpose, in other words, they make posts to chase the weekly quota to get paid from 1Xbit.

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They are not ignorant of the scam accusations, the members who apply and participate in the campaign know and understand the consequences of joining 1xbit signature campaigns. Majority of the accounts are already have negative feedback, recently woken accounts, and member accounts with low quality posts which I suspect are part of a large farm.
Previously they already knew and understood the consequences of joining the 1xbit signature campaign, but still dared to join there, that is what is called ignoring fraud charges.
There are lots of fraud accusations aimed at them in this forum, some users have also created a special thread about the dangers of joining 1Xbit. Those who advertised 1Xbit have earned a red trust that has never been forgotten, they are very difficult to be accepted in other campaigns after 1xbit ended.

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If someone hasn't tagged all known accounts of 1xbit, feel free to do so:

Manager1xBit / Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2759
1xbit_official / Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2204
I have supported the flags against them. That's what every concerned forum user should do in the right way to make others aware of it regardless of whether they are DT members or non-DT members. But unfortunately there are still many who don't care about this, I have even included some of the participants in the 1xbit campaign on my ignore list. I hope there are many people who will support the flag, they should care.

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December 22, 2022, 06:21:22 PM
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Previously they already knew and understood the consequences of joining the 1xbit signature campaign, but still dared to join there, that is what is called ignoring fraud charges.
Back to the first chapter: The average user promoting 1xbit is a user who has previously been negatively tagged. That's a fact. Then because they are accepted as participants even without good quality posts, this triggers their desire to earn money. There are only a handful of neutral users willing to promote 1xbit because there are other campaigns that are also potentially safe.

All of them know the consequences, in fact I'm sure they were ready in case they account were banned from the forum because promoting 1xbit.

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December 22, 2022, 08:36:18 PM
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To an extent you can understand why members would want to sign up to a signature campaign paying the sort of money 1xbit do but having said that I think we all as a collective have a responsibility to try to minimise the impact they could have on vulnerable and gullible people as well as newbies. It is a thin line in most cases and blurred lines on others occasions when it comes to handling signature campaigns that have such a torrid reputation.

We as a community cannot get it right all the time even with the best of intentions but at the very least we can try our best to take teh course of actino we deem to be best for the majority.

That’s the sad reality but we do our best. You have done a good job tagging members that are greedy enough to wear the signature and promote the casino. I salute you for that. I don’t see any of the signature participant posting on this thread, some of them were quite vocal about the legitimacy of the casino in the beginning. They are now silent though I see them posting in gambling sections.

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December 23, 2022, 02:24:46 AM
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If someone hasn't tagged all known accounts of 1xbit, feel free to do so:
I have supported the flags against them. That's what every concerned forum user should do in the right way to make others aware of it regardless of whether they are DT members or non-DT members. But unfortunately there are still many who don't care about this, I have even included some of the participants in the 1xbit campaign on my ignore list. I hope there are many people who will support the flag, they should care.
Exactly this, even if someone is not a DT member yet, it's still important to send out a negative trust for scammers. That way we will achieve two important points:
- 1xbit will see a massive opposition against scamming people here on Bitcointalk. 1xbit will see that they are not welcome here and hopefully leave Bitcointalk somewhen.
- Even if someone is not DT member yet, it can happen quickly in the future to become DT member. Since DT rules have changed and DT became much more decentralized, it's quite possible for everyone to become a DT (2) member one day.

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December 23, 2022, 02:38:32 AM
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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.
When people like you and myself not at all bothering and spreading awareness about not to play on 1xbit, I guess we may go them bankrupted over the time due to low to no player to their casino. Still, when they are actively promoting on other platforms for new user, we cannot do anything about them.

Just imagine a situation like they solve all the accusation against them at least on this forum, then they can exist and run campaigns here, definitely you will not have any concern on them, right? This could be one of them reason why scammers are allowed to continue on this forum. Honest people will try to resolve all the accusation but in my opinion we cannot expect such honesty from 1xbit team any more as they are not focusing on building reputation but too keen on attracting players through campaigns.
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December 23, 2022, 12:05:01 PM
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So far there really isn't much we can do other than fight them with the fact that they are not accepted on bitcointalk due to the bad reputation of the casino. But I wonder how likely bitcointalk users are to gamble at their casino which has been known for its scams. They spend money on forum promotion, it seems impossible to spend on a regular weekly basis without a decent return from forum members.

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December 24, 2022, 07:21:52 AM
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They are very strong with promotions already they are in a less position over here in the forum but they tried their possible best to make sure other platforms recognized them.
That's correct. I've seen 1Xbit on another crypto forum I'm on with its heavy adverts. The scam site is doing all it can to spread its scammy tentacles everywhere it can get to. BTT shouldn't be serving as an exception (it's really) and not allow it advertise here especially with the widespread condemnation of that site here. However, we don't know why the admins of this forum continue to allow it here. Perhaps, there's a reason for that. Again, it reminds us that this forum isn't run as a democracy where majority has its say. If it were based on that, the majority spoke on that long time ago.

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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.
One of the reasons 1Xbit is still on forums is because some users ignore warnings to stay away from this banned site. Users who advertise 1Xbit have been given a red trust which makes it difficult for them to enter other campaigns.
1Xbit will continue to run on this forum as long as there are users who are still greedy collecting Bitcoin fractions from Scam sites. Apart from the BTT forum, 1Xbit also allocates funds for the promotion of their website.

Well, the simple answer is that if you have money, you can sell the scam. Sad

They have the money to pay the signature participants and they have the money to advertise outside the forum too. With so much extensive advertisement, people can easily be convinced to deposit and play at 1xbit.



They are not ignorant of the scam accusations, the members who apply and participate in the campaign know and understand the consequences of joining 1xbit signature campaigns. Majority of the accounts are already have negative feedback, recently woken accounts, and member accounts with low quality posts which I suspect are part of a large farm.

I think that new accounts do not participate in this campaign if they knew that they would get a red trust on participation. Those new accounts who enroll are not aware of this.
Also, 1xbit accepts those negative accounts which got negative trust only by participating in 1xbit campaigns, hence once you participate in it, no one else will accept you (because of your trust) but you will keep working for 1xbit until they have their campaign running.

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December 26, 2022, 08:47:04 AM
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Also, 1xbit accepts those negative accounts which got negative trust only by participating in 1xbit campaigns, hence once you participate in it, no one else will accept you (because of your trust) but you will keep working for 1xbit until they have their campaign running.

Its the risk new participants have to take if they cannot get into the good campaign they think they might as well take the risk as long as 1XBIT have an existing campaign its worth the risk, 1XBIT have upgraded their criteria they just don't want any other red tag but only those tags that are given because of participation in 1XBIT campaign, I'm surprised that many have taken the risk, the risk is only good as long they accept large numbers but what if there are many participants applying and the spots are limited you will end begging to get in the campaign because there are no other campaigns to turn to.

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December 27, 2022, 01:02:20 PM
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Previously they already knew and understood the consequences of joining the 1xbit signature campaign, but still dared to join there, that is what is called ignoring fraud charges.
Back to the first chapter: The average user promoting 1xbit is a user who has previously been negatively tagged. That's a fact. Then because they are accepted as participants even without good quality posts, this triggers their desire to earn money. There are only a handful of neutral users willing to promote 1xbit because there are other campaigns that are also potentially safe.

All of them know the consequences, in fact I'm sure they were ready in case they account were banned from the forum because promoting 1xbit.
Undeniable facts, and other facts since 1Xbit promotes its site in the forums has spawned a lot of damn Spammers with useless posts. They are only concerned with the number of posts per week without any quality in it. It is clear that the goal of those who promote 1Xbit is to make money from damaged accounts.

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Well, the simple answer is that if you have money, you can sell the scam. Sad

They have the money to pay the signature participants and they have the money to advertise outside the forum too. With so much extensive advertisement, people can easily be convinced to deposit and play at 1xbit.
Unfortunately the money used is the result of fraud from their site users. I think their advertising on the Bitcointalk platform is no longer effective, there are so many negative accusations against them that the forum users shy away from 1Xbit. Regarding advertising outside the Forum is still ongoing, most of the victims are novice gamblers who do not know about the fraud committed by 1Xbit.

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December 27, 2022, 02:13:42 PM
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Is there no effective legal action that can be taken on the 1xbit gambling platform instead of just telling people not to promote them? Is that all we can do? I am surprised this platform is still running till date.
As it is said, the forum cannot ban gambling campaigns but can only tell them (users) not to join them and if they refused, a red tag would be issued to the user. Because it means, the user is also joining them to promote fraudulent activities.

The reason why 1xbit has many gamblers in the site is because of the advertisement channels. A Nigerian comedian, Funnybros also advertising for them in his skit. I have also seen sign/billboards advertising for 1xbit both in cities, villages and on the highways.









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December 29, 2022, 10:50:51 PM
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As it is said, the forum cannot ban gambling campaigns but can only tell them (users) not to join them and if they refused, a red tag would be issued to the user. Because it means, the user is also joining them to promote fraudulent activities.

The solution is not banning gambling campaigns, any signature campaign casino or mixers can be a scam. If we were to take such a decision, then the forum would have to ban all signature campaigns. It will be interesting to see how many members would continue their posting habit without signature pay.

The reason why 1xbit has many gamblers in the site is because of the advertisement channels. A Nigerian comedian, Funnybros also advertising for them in his skit. I have also seen sign/billboards advertising for 1xbit both in cities, villages and on the highways
Ixbit are extravagant with their spending money on promotions. I see them everywhere, the comedians and celebrities that promote the site do not do their research, they collect their pay and look the other way.
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