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December 22, 2022, 02:43:03 PM
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Do you know that some crypto projects are so amazing that you will want to give up your money just to allocate some portion of the max supply but the tokenomics ruined it all?

Some projects have good utilities but their tokenomics is very bad, if you don't know this do try learning the difference between good utility and good tokenomics because it is very important and this will help you on your future crypto investments.

No matter how tempted you are to invest in a project always learn its tokenomics first.

I guess that's how crypto involved from 2017's ICO to the last craze or what's in in 2022. Tokenomics and all that stuff turn's into a bad thing for the project itself. Gone are the days that we just have to look at the Whitepaper and see their roadmap and tells that this project is bad or not.

But since it has evolved so much and they have reinvent the wheel with this crypto projects, it turn out to be negative for the majority of them. And probably this is the reason why some projects die in the bear market because it might be good in the beginning, but it was ruined by their tokenomics.

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December 23, 2022, 07:05:10 AM
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I guess that's how crypto involved from 2017's ICO to the last craze or what's in in 2022. Tokenomics and all that stuff turn's into a bad thing for the project itself. Gone are the days that we just have to look at the Whitepaper and see their roadmap and tells that this project is bad or not.

But since it has evolved so much and they have reinvent the wheel with this crypto projects, it turn out to be negative for the majority of them. And probably this is the reason why some projects die in the bear market because it might be good in the beginning, but it was ruined by their tokenomics.
Before those craze came in, crypto is already there. Maybe what you mean that is how those greedy people started in cryptos because ICOs are so hyped back on 2017, that all of them have the same promise to the investors and that is to became rich in a short period of time. Some of them got successful because we all know how much money those ICOs grabbed from the public.

If the project has a bad tokenomics then there is no way that it will start out great because it will be avoided easily by the investors. They might get some investors but the numbers are only small. Many of those who got scammed, already learned their lesson and they are now wise.
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December 28, 2022, 09:03:10 AM
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No matter how tempted you are to invest in a project always learn its tokenomics first.
And the summary of it is DYOR. I agree that when someone wants to invest, he/she has to make their own understanding first if it's viable to look not just at tokenomics but also at its utility/use case.
That's what a project really means and what it's made, to be used for its purpose where the developers have seen a problem and made it for the solution that it should have.
In the end? it is our money so no one will give more importance but us .. those project creator cares nothing about our funds though they pretended to be one.
so DYOR will at least lessen our chances of being scammed or lose .
but like what mostly says , try not to put important money inside and always Have Bitcoin more than any coins you will have.
Yes, no one stops you from whatever you want to do with your money. And the developers only care for the project if they legitimately really care for the project. Otherwise, it's just all about how the project can generate money.
DYOR is important, whether you have high or less capital, it's a matter that one has to remember because you've worked hard for that money and only you can decide on how you're going to spend it properly.
and the clear thoughts ? this is all about Money lol, developer and project owner are only for one thing , and that is for profit lol . so better to still keep your side in safer investments or coins than to those who solely for short process.
What's even worse is when an investor buys any token that they like and then wouldn't care about utility or tokenomics. And they're only buying because that's what they think is the best token/coin to buy and overheard it somewhere. Maybe from an influencer or YouTube or any social networking site. It may sound funny but that's in real life happening because they all think that it will make sense if they follow those people that are encouraging them to buy. Well, they're good at talking and enticing others to buy the crypto they advertise.
actually only few that does have idea about that tokenomics , mostly are just jumping to what crypto influencer says and do.

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December 28, 2022, 05:18:05 PM
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Do you know that some crypto projects are so amazing that you will want to give up your money just to allocate some portion of the max supply but the tokenomics ruined it all?
That's why investing money in successful projects is much safer, although there is no certainty of return in the long term, crypto is still in the general picture to recognize, its nature is still too voluminous and requires in-depth research, so there is a lot of speculation to be generated.

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Tokenomics in nature recognizes the characteristics of understanding the supply and demand sides, there are special calculations to determine the required recognition standards, for example for supply and demand issues for a project that is being developed, so that the tendency to choose has been based on research on these two things.

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No matter how tempted you are to invest in a project always learn its tokenomics first.
This should be the most important side to review first, because that's where we will make choices about the investment that we will run in a new project.

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December 28, 2022, 07:55:46 PM
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Some projects have good utilities but their tokenomics is very bad, if you don't know this do try learning the difference between good utility and good tokenomics because it is very important and this will help you on your future crypto investments.
Indeed true.
Initially, I was eager to invest in APTOS coin, but after seeing their tokenomics I changed my mind.

The issue is. 82% of the supply is staked. And nearly 94k new coins are coming in the market on the daily bases.

I think it would was good if locked tokens were not given any staking rewards.
These projects are traps. I think we need to be very careful with total supply of the token, if it's limited or unlimited, how many tokens are held by whales and their influence on the future of the token. Staking is also a double edge sword for investors: at same time you are earning passive income (usually high percentage), the value of that token is likely to decrease considerably, as more and more supply is dropped on the market without enough demand to keep the prices stable. After all, it's not that profitable, as firstly expected.

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December 29, 2022, 04:50:45 AM
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Some projects have good utilities but their tokenomics is very bad, if you don't know this do try learning the difference between good utility and good tokenomics because it is very important and this will help you on your future crypto investments.
Indeed true.
Initially, I was eager to invest in APTOS coin, but after seeing their tokenomics I changed my mind.

The issue is. 82% of the supply is staked. And nearly 94k new coins are coming in the market on the daily bases.

I think it would was good if locked tokens were not given any staking rewards.
These projects are traps. I think we need to be very careful with total supply of the token, if it's limited or unlimited, how many tokens are held by whales and their influence on the future of the token. Staking is also a double edge sword for investors: at same time you are earning passive income (usually high percentage), the value of that token is likely to decrease considerably, as more and more supply is dropped on the market without enough demand to keep the prices stable. After all, it's not that profitable, as firstly expected.
That's why Tokenomics is very important for all of us who invested in crypto , the risky this market act must be countered by being knowledgeable and considerate , not just buying coins that has tons of advertising but instead look at the deeper perspective for your money.

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December 29, 2022, 09:48:45 AM
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Before those craze came in, crypto is already there. Maybe what you mean that is how those greedy people started in cryptos because ICOs are so hyped back on 2017, that all of them have the same promise to the investors and that is to became rich in a short period of time. Some of them got successful because we all know how much money those ICOs grabbed from the public.

If the project has a bad tokenomics then there is no way that it will start out great because it will be avoided easily by the investors. They might get some investors but the numbers are only small. Many of those who got scammed, already learned their lesson and they are now wise.

2017 was no doubt a year for ICOs without any doubt. Anything launched as ICO during that year got success but following years were not good for ICO. in 2018 we hear new term IEO and then NFTs came in. If you want to invest in such new concepts then you need to be aware of right time of entry and exit, without that you are bound to lose money.



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December 29, 2022, 09:18:36 PM
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What's even worse is when an investor buys any token that they like and then wouldn't care about utility or tokenomics. And they're only buying because that's what they think is the best token/coin to buy and overheard it somewhere. Maybe from an influencer or YouTube or any social networking site. It may sound funny but that's in real life happening because they all think that it will make sense if they follow those people that are encouraging them to buy. Well, they're good at talking and enticing others to buy the crypto they advertise.
This is why many got hyped easily, they didn’t even do their own research before investing and when the things didn’t go according to their plan, they will blame those people for forcing them to buy a failed project. I agree with the OP that we might get tempted sometimes to buy a project that we think is good for their future, but upon reviewing their utilities and tokenomics, you will realize that they are not that good and a lot of things that needs to be addressed, by that time you should not invest yet not until they make good changes on that.

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December 30, 2022, 04:46:09 PM
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Do you know that some crypto projects are so amazing that you will want to give up your money just to allocate some portion of the max supply but the tokenomics ruined it all?

Some projects have good utilities but their tokenomics is very bad, if you don't know this do try learning the difference between good utility and good tokenomics because it is very important and this will help you on your future crypto investments.

No matter how tempted you are to invest in a project always learn its tokenomics first.

I think you are right to some extent that the most important thing in a crypto project is not its services or products, but tokenomics, since it is in it that the entire economy and income of the platform is laid. At the same time, the platform tokens are tied to the services and products of the crypto project, which means that it is the number of issued tokens and their price that ultimately determines the future and success of the crypto project and the crypto assets themselves. So the information about their tokenomics is very important to study.
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I think when it comes to newcomer altcoins, tokenomics is very important. There are some inflationary altcoins out there, especially like defi coins. In normal situation noone would be interested to buy them because noone wants another currency to gradually lose its price. But yet features of defi coins made them popular and uniswap & pancakeswap are still popular with high cap. Developers should definitely be cautious, and make their token more desirable to buy/use.
If they are a legit problem, there should be no problem when it comes to development of the project since they know how to do it properly and they know what kind of services they are going to offer instead of making any hype and just go with the flow without even thinking about innovation. Every investors should know the utility of the project, this is my usual analysis before investing and I agree that most of the new projects are not that good.
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December 30, 2022, 06:51:56 PM
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What's even worse is when an investor buys any token that they like and then wouldn't care about utility or tokenomics. And they're only buying because that's what they think is the best token/coin to buy and overheard it somewhere. Maybe from an influencer or YouTube or any social networking site. It may sound funny but that's in real life happening because they all think that it will make sense if they follow those people that are encouraging them to buy. Well, they're good at talking and enticing others to buy the crypto they advertise.
This is why many got hyped easily, they didn’t even do their own research before investing and when the things didn’t go according to their plan, they will blame those people for forcing them to buy a failed project. I agree with the OP that we might get tempted sometimes to buy a project that we think is good for their future, but upon reviewing their utilities and tokenomics, you will realize that they are not that good and a lot of things that needs to be addressed, by that time you should not invest yet not until they make good changes on that.
Therefore studying and finding out the quality of a project is very important especially for new projects.
Even though a new project can indeed generate large amounts of profit if it is successful, we ourselves do not know how the project will go in the future.
The background of the owner and manager of a project is very important for us to know in order to minimize the occurrence of fraud.
If the manager already has a good reputation, you can be sure that there is little possibility of fraud.

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January 04, 2023, 09:26:08 AM
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I think when it comes to newcomer altcoins, tokenomics is very important. There are some inflationary altcoins out there, especially like defi coins. In normal situation noone would be interested to buy them because noone wants another currency to gradually lose its price. But yet features of defi coins made them popular and uniswap & pancakeswap are still popular with high cap. Developers should definitely be cautious, and make their token more desirable to buy/use.
either New or old altcoins still needs tokenomics to be understand  because this will tell how good the projection of the said coin, as we remembered how many failure from our old investments that nowadays we must understand this to happen.
but like what said? the importance of understanding all the area in where we are investing is very important all the time .

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January 05, 2023, 09:02:24 PM
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I think when it comes to newcomer altcoins, tokenomics is very important. There are some inflationary altcoins out there, especially like defi coins. In normal situation noone would be interested to buy them because noone wants another currency to gradually lose its price. But yet features of defi coins made them popular and uniswap & pancakeswap are still popular with high cap. Developers should definitely be cautious, and make their token more desirable to buy/use.
either New or old altcoins still needs tokenomics to be understand  because this will tell how good the projection of the said coin, as we remembered how many failure from our old investments that nowadays we must understand this to happen.
but like what said? the importance of understanding all the area in where we are investing is very important all the time .
Understanding the tokenomics is also very important, if it is old and have a bit weaker tokenomics that is understandable because back when it first came out the papers were not that well and this was one of the best to do it, whereas nowadays there are better tokenomics and yet still could fail. Imagine checking bitcoins paper and thinking if that is good or not, even scam projects have better papers these days so you have to know exactly when a project was created.

I think this matters more on the new ones because of this, because no matter how great you think something could be, new ones will always carry bigger risk of becoming bad or turning out to be a scam for sure.

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January 08, 2023, 03:44:28 AM
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I think you are right to some extent that the most important thing in a crypto project is not its services or products, but tokenomics, since it is in it that the entire economy and income of the platform is laid. At the same time, the platform tokens are tied to the services and products of the crypto project, which means that it is the number of issued tokens and their price that ultimately determines the future and success of the crypto project and the crypto assets themselves. So the information about their tokenomics is very important to study.
Every single factor needs to be taken into account when you are thinking about investing in a new coin, and we have the example of the FTX exchange and their token to see how important this can be, the FTX exchange was making a lot of money, had their own token which was appreciated by the community and yet it collapsed in less than a week because their CEO could not manage the exchange properly, so it is not enough to make sure the idea is viable and the developers are solid, if the management of the coin is weak then its collapse is inevitable.
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January 08, 2023, 06:08:36 AM
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Do you know that some crypto projects are so amazing that you will want to give up your money just to allocate some portion of the max supply but the tokenomics ruined it all?

Some projects have good utilities but their tokenomics is very bad, if you don't know this do try learning the difference between good utility and good tokenomics because it is very important and this will help you on your future crypto investments.

No matter how tempted you are to invest in a project always learn its tokenomics first.
Zcash in one example many early adopters buyer get rekted very badly cause they dont care with tokonemics, people outside called pyramid scheme with bitcoin tokenomics, some projects do notice about this kindna things and doing fair launch but you know there is no such things fair launch if they sneky without any promotion or marketing

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January 12, 2023, 04:29:03 PM
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2017 was no doubt a year for ICOs without any doubt. Anything launched as ICO during that year got success but following years were not good for ICO. in 2018 we hear new term IEO and then NFTs came in. If you want to invest in such new concepts then you need to be aware of right time of entry and exit, without that you are bound to lose money.

What does NFT have to do with this chain? IDO was the next step in the evolution of public sales of tokens to the first investors. Although I can't agree that everything that was launched as an ICO was a success. There was a lot of scam, and many projects immediately after going public on dubious exchanges, immediately fell sharply in value and never rose again. Something similar was observed in 2022.

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March 10, 2023, 03:08:02 PM
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Tokonomics of the project is the key to success if tokenomics of project is not beneficial then it is very hard for the project to be successful. If Tokonomics is good in offering benefit then large number of individuals desires to make investment in it but if the Tokonomics has no value or the value reduces as the time passes then it represents then eventually it will loss its worth. People prefer investment in project which has limited supply because there worth does not reduces so much. If large number of people sell token then token become in dip and sometime this token rise up so the project survive but it does not go to higher worth again then the tokenomics of that project will become useless.

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March 11, 2023, 05:26:17 PM
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I haven't been investing for a long time. All the projects appear with an ideal story and when they come to the exchange, the price is miserable. In the end, many are scum, they just make a sale and run away with the money.

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March 11, 2023, 06:51:40 PM
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Tokonomics of the project is the key to success if tokenomics of project is not beneficial then it is very hard for the project to be successful. If Tokonomics is good in offering benefit then large number of individuals desires to make investment in it but if the Tokonomics has no value or the value reduces as the time passes then it represents then eventually it will loss its worth. People prefer investment in project which has limited supply because there worth does not reduces so much. If large number of people sell token then token become in dip and sometime this token rise up so the project survive but it does not go to higher worth again then the tokenomics of that project will become useless.
I think I've seen a project where tokenomics is almost perfect and yet many of them still have failed. How can you explain that? It only shows that not all lies in the tokenomics but other factors must be considered like taking a look at the team and do a background check for the each of them.

There's also the road map and many more. They won't be included there for no reasons. Projects with limited supply can have a good potential to pump in price and then are projects who have a high number and even unlimited supply. It's surprising how these projects are still relevant up until today while those projects have limited supplies have died already.

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Of course, before investing, one must gain detailed knowledge about any coin. Because I will be investing I must have an idea of ​​the token mix. So before investing the sections must get detailed knowledge about the future of various websites and coins and start investing.

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