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July 17, 2026, 08:52:16 AM
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Argentina's morale and their confidence are the reason why they have reached the final. Having a legendary player in the team can turn the team around at any time, we have seen how well Argentina's game has kept itself calm and made it to the final. However, the game against Spain will be very difficult, as Spain is a relatively strong team, so the final is going to be very competitive between the two teams. Although it is impossible to say with such confidence that Argentina will win, the game will be very competitive, so we are looking forward to seeing a very challenging and difficult game between the two teams. Basically, if the Spanish team can play strongly in their attack and defense line, Argentina will not be able to beat them. If the Spanish team plays the game that they played against France, it will be very difficult for Argentina to win the match, in that case the competition between the two teams will continue.
Success of Argentina and Spain recent years in World Cup, Euro and Coppa America tournaments come from two coaches who were not famous, underrated when they were appointed as head coaches of these national teams. It's like destiny as Scaloni even had hard times of facing with sack but he survived through it and made a massive success era for Argentina together with Messi and his players.

It's interesting that Messi has already played with three player generations in the national team but he only succeeded when playing with players who are younger than him, one generation after his. These players got a lot of benefit with Messi's leadership and after Messi era, likely this national team will struggle with next Coppa America and World Cup tournaments.

But it's about future, firstly and most importantly, they have to focus on the final match and win it to get a third star on their national team's skirt.

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July 17, 2026, 09:05:26 AM
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I only have a one certainty: Spain can not score a first goal Tongue by now it is clear that Argentina has "fire in their eyes" when facing defeat and enough strength to overturn any score, so I think it is better if the match start with Argentina scoring the first goal, then Spain equalizing and  then finally winning the penalty shootout!

I know... a penalty shootout in the final of championship would probably give a lot of fans to have a heart attack, but is there any other way to beat Argentina?

Seriously now... I believe that Argentina has everything it takes to win: greater technical superiority, determination and more luck than Spain.
Unfortunately, I believe they will become champions again.

[EDIT]
And now I am rooting for Spain, with its strength and determination, to eliminate Argentina Cheesy
Yes, I said this, but do not confuse what I would like with what I believe.

The two best teams are in the finals, and in my eyes Spain looks much, much better. Also, that fire that you mentioned is what drives the Argentinians and because of that they managed to overcome some incredible odds, but this time I think that Spain is the firefighter and will extinguish that fire with ease. But we will see; maybe I'll be wrong in the end.

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July 17, 2026, 09:12:26 AM
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I only have a one certainty: Spain can not score a first goal Tongue by now it is clear that Argentina has "fire in their eyes" when facing defeat and enough strength to overturn any score, so I think it is better if the match start with Argentina scoring the first goal, then Spain equalizing and  then finally winning the penalty shootout!

I know... a penalty shootout in the final of championship would probably give a lot of fans to have a heart attack, but is there any other way to beat Argentina?

Seriously now... I believe that Argentina has everything it takes to win: greater technical superiority, determination and more luck than Spain.
Unfortunately, I believe they will become champions again.

[EDIT]
And now I am rooting for Spain, with its strength and determination, to eliminate Argentina Cheesy
Yes, I said this, but do not confuse what I would like with what I believe.

The two best teams are in the finals, and in my eyes Spain looks much, much better. Also, that fire that you mentioned is what drives the Argentinians and because of that they managed to overcome some incredible odds, but this time I think that Spain is the firefighter and will extinguish that fire with ease. But we will see; maybe I'll be wrong in the end.
In a finals, you can't be too sure of this kind of prediction because teams are capable of bringing the kind of fire that the other brings to the table. if Argentina steps up big time before the finals, expect that they will even do better in the finals. Spain on their own part is a team you cant write off and wont score and sit back the way ENGLAND did so you want to expect a lot of back and fourth in that game. at the end, if the game doesn't take us to penalty shootout, then just expect that we will see series of goals and counters from both ends.

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July 17, 2026, 09:17:52 AM
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People on social media are always digging into the past of players, coaches and teams.

Lionel Scaloni had studied UEFA pro coaching with the current Spanish coach Luis de la Fuente, can this be said in the final between students against teachers?

Circulating images on social media also Messi once photographed together or bathing Lamine Yamal as a baby, and they now meet as challengers in the final?

Wow, this is something that really happened, and indeed the person has good quality.

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July 17, 2026, 09:53:02 AM
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I only have a one certainty: Spain can not score a first goal Tongue by now it is clear that Argentina has "fire in their eyes" when facing defeat and enough strength to overturn any score, so I think it is better if the match start with Argentina scoring the first goal, then Spain equalizing and  then finally winning the penalty shootout!

I know... a penalty shootout in the final of championship would probably give a lot of fans to have a heart attack, but is there any other way to beat Argentina?

Seriously now... I believe that Argentina has everything it takes to win: greater technical superiority, determination and more luck than Spain.
Unfortunately, I believe they will become champions again.

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And now I am rooting for Spain, with its strength and determination, to eliminate Argentina Cheesy
Yes, I said this, but do not confuse what I would like with what I believe.

The two best teams are in the finals, and in my eyes Spain looks much, much better. Also, that fire that you mentioned is what drives the Argentinians and because of that they managed to overcome some incredible odds, but this time I think that Spain is the firefighter and will extinguish that fire with ease. But we will see; maybe I'll be wrong in the end.

You're right, paco. I also think Spain is the stronger team in terms of quality, but i believe Argentina is the team that dictates the game on the pitch. They've shown a lot throughout the tournament and overcome some really tough obstacles. I'm rooting for Argentina, but i still expect a fantastic match with, hopefully, plenty of goals. If we get a final like the one in Qatar in 2022, it would be absolutely amazing.

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July 17, 2026, 10:18:11 AM
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Lionel Messi is a very genius player, he did both assists that made Lautaro Martínez scored both goals. I thought it might get to extra time but that is not going to happen. Argentina has won the match already is what has happened. Argentina and Spain will play the final.
I’d describe Messi as the saying goes: the older he gets, the better he gets. Time and again, Messi showed his magic in this match. With his two assists in this game, Messi set a record as the player with the most assists in World Cup history, 12 assists.

Congratulations to Argentina for reaching the final for the second consecutive time. I hope Argentina defeats Spain in the final so that Messi can cap off his career in the most perfect way possible, by winning two World Cup trophies in a row.
Lionel Messi's performance always gives him another level in the World Cup. He is surely the GOAT due to his consistency and quality performance. He led Argentina from the front in the last few games, even though they were down by 2 goals against Egypt and by 1 goal against England.

Who is going to be the champion of the world? This has never been easy to predict because now both teams are on level with their performance. Spain stuns the hot favourite France with their defense and attack, while Argentina always keeps things on balance till the last minute and has their way of scoring goals and stealing wins. The final is going to be one of the best between top teams.
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July 17, 2026, 10:21:41 AM
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Tuchel thought he could defeat Argentina by playing defensively. I also agree with you that Tuchel has not learned from his mistakes  in previous matches. Tuchel has proven this again.

We saw in the match against Egypt that Argentina scored 3  goals in the last 15  minutes to secure a 3-2 victory. We  have never seen any other team make such a comeback even after being behind by  2 goals. We also saw in the match against Switzerland that Argentina became terrible in the  last minute. Tuchel created a  completely defensive strategy to counter Argentina's attacks. And it did not work.

If the England team had counter-attacked, then naturally the argentine players would have been under pressure and their attack speed would have decreased. But England only played  defensively. As a result, the argentine players were able to create many opportunities to attack.

I think that Tomas Tuchel completely misread the match, a mistake that you cannot afford to make in a semi-final against the last winner of the competition, especially because in the last 2 matches Argentina has overturned the result so they are not a team to be underestimated.

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July 17, 2026, 10:48:53 AM
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I only have a one certainty: Spain can not score a first goal Tongue by now it is clear that Argentina has "fire in their eyes" when facing defeat and enough strength to overturn any score, so I think it is better if the match start with Argentina scoring the first goal, then Spain equalizing and  then finally winning the penalty shootout!

I know... a penalty shootout in the final of championship would probably give a lot of fans to have a heart attack, but is there any other way to beat Argentina?

Seriously now... I believe that Argentina has everything it takes to win: greater technical superiority, determination and more luck than Spain.
Unfortunately, I believe they will become champions again.

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And now I am rooting for Spain, with its strength and determination, to eliminate Argentina Cheesy
Yes, I said this, but do not confuse what I would like with what I believe.

Scoring first goal always invite much pressure and we've seen how Argentina has turn into a beast with late goals in this year's world cup. Half of their goals in this tournament happen after 75 minutes of the game. I'm not sure if Spain defense can hold up the pressure when they start coming. Spain should score goals as many as possible when they have the chance because some time early goals is the most difficult one to equalise.

Spain has faced some top teams from the group stage and the knockout stages but never succumb so they stand a better chance against Argentina. If it ends in penalty shootout, then congratulations to Argentina for winning the world cup back to back.

 
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At the moment, most will be in favor of Argentina, but since it is the final, anything can happen here. But there is no doubt that the game is definitely going to be very exciting. Because Spain has reached the final by defeating a superpower in the semi-finals like France, where we did not expect them to survive in the semi-finals and reach the final, the way Spain defeated a team with a high superpower like France, it was a truly surprising performance. So it is not that Argentina can easily win against Spain, because it is the world cup final match. the possibility is definitely in Argentina's favor, but Argentina will have to work very hard to win.

What are you on about, man, Spain is not that big of a surprise when you pay any attention to European football.  They are current European champions, for Gods sake!  Have you not fucking been keeping track of who has beat Germany in quarters, France in semi-finals, England in Euro 2024 final and on the whole dominated Euro 2024.  
Perhaps our friend didn’t watch Spain’s matches or isn’t familiar with Spanish soccer. That’s why he said Spain’s advancement to the final was a surprise. Spain has dominated Europe. In 2024, Spain won the Euro; in 2025, they reached the UEFA Nations League final, even though they lost to Portugal; and in 2026, Spain reached the World Cup final, having conceded only one goal. This result isn’t a surprise, Spain is simply an extraordinary team.

For me, a Spain vs. Argentina final is ideal because both teams dominate on their respective continents. Spain is the Euro champion, while Argentina is the Copa América champion and the defending World Cup champion.

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July 17, 2026, 11:48:55 AM
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At the moment, most will be in favor of Argentina, but since it is the final, anything can happen here. But there is no doubt that the game is definitely going to be very exciting. Because Spain has reached the final by defeating a superpower in the semi-finals like France, where we did not expect them to survive in the semi-finals and reach the final, the way Spain defeated a team with a high superpower like France, it was a truly surprising performance. So it is not that Argentina can easily win against Spain, because it is the world cup final match. the possibility is definitely in Argentina's favor, but Argentina will have to work very hard to win.

What are you on about, man, Spain is not that big of a surprise when you pay any attention to European football.  They are current European champions, for Gods sake!  Have you not fucking been keeping track of who has beat Germany in quarters, France in semi-finals, England in Euro 2024 final and on the whole dominated Euro 2024.  
Perhaps our friend didn’t watch Spain’s matches or isn’t familiar with Spanish soccer. That’s why he said Spain’s advancement to the final was a surprise. Spain has dominated Europe. In 2024, Spain won the Euro; in 2025, they reached the UEFA Nations League final, even though they lost to Portugal; and in 2026, Spain reached the World Cup final, having conceded only one goal. This result isn’t a surprise, Spain is simply an extraordinary team.

For me, a Spain vs. Argentina final is ideal because both teams dominate on their respective continents. Spain is the Euro champion, while Argentina is the Copa América champion and the defending World Cup champion.
Spain biggest opportunity is making the most of their chances early because Argentina have show they don't stop fighting to any team, especially in the final stages of games. Finals are usually decided by little moment rather than form if spain stays discipline for 90 minutes they will have every chance, but if it's goes to penalties one definitely have to fancy Argentina  it's shaping up out to be fascinating match.

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I was supporting England to make their dream come true finally but they failed... But with a really horrible strategy! Why would they get too defensive just because they got 1-0 ahead?

They aren't even the best defense team in the tournament. Tuchel is responsible for this comeback. And I should my admiration for Messi again. Now it's Messi against Yamal. I'm going for Spain as I don't think they would make the same mistake as England.



If we're talking conspiracy theories, Yamal is just like Messi in terms of PR - his PR has been far ahead of his actual achievements. Therefore, the upcoming game looks very much like one FIFA golden boy handing over the job to another. The only thing that confuses me is that Yamal's political views are completely different from those the puppeteers want to promote. If it weren't for this nuance, I would have gone all-in on Spain.
If we talk about purely sporting factors, Spain is a big favorite in its own right.

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Spain biggest opportunity is making the most of their chances early because Argentina have show they don't stop fighting to any team, especially in the final stages of games. Finals are usually decided by little moment rather than form if spain stays discipline for 90 minutes they will have every chance, but if it's goes to penalties one definitely have to fancy Argentina  it's shaping up out to be fascinating match.
This will be an even more important match for Spain, even though the Argentinean players play even harder, and the referees often allow them to fight. Nowadays, Spain has a wonderful opportunity to show their best talents, and they can control the ball perfectly and play in defense. I think that if the Spani play a good match, they will completely defeat Argentina. In addition, Argentina concedes quite a lot, so in my opinion, we can completely gain a goal from the Spanish national team.

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July 17, 2026, 12:25:58 PM
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Lionel Messi's performance always gives him another level in the World Cup. He is surely the GOAT due to his consistency and quality performance. He led Argentina from the front in the last few games, even though they were down by 2 goals against Egypt and by 1 goal against England.

Who is going to be the champion of the world? This has never been easy to predict because now both teams are on level with their performance. Spain stuns the hot favourite France with their defense and attack, while Argentina always keeps things on balance till the last minute and has their way of scoring goals and stealing wins. The final is going to be one of the best between top teams.

Lionel Messi is the greatest of all time GOAT,  because he always delivers at the right stage, especially after leading Argentina through tough comebacks against Egypt and England.

This final is very hard to predict because both teams are playing at a super high level but in very different ways. Spain looks amazing after beating France with great defending and sharp attacking, while Argentina on the other hand are always staying calm and finds a way to score and win games at the very last minute. While Spain plays smoother and faster soccer right now, it is hard to bet against Messi and Argentina's nostop fighting spirit. In the end, if Spain cannot score early to control the game, Argentina has the perfect experience and will use it to bring them down and become champions of the world again.

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July 17, 2026, 12:51:12 PM
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I only have a one certainty: Spain can not score a first goal Tongue by now it is clear that Argentina has "fire in their eyes" when facing defeat and enough strength to overturn any score, so I think it is better if the match start with Argentina scoring the first goal, then Spain equalizing and  then finally winning the penalty shootout!

I know... a penalty shootout in the final of championship would probably give a lot of fans to have a heart attack, but is there any other way to beat Argentina?

Seriously now... I believe that Argentina has everything it takes to win: greater technical superiority, determination and more luck than Spain.
Unfortunately, I believe they will become champions again.

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And now I am rooting for Spain, with its strength and determination, to eliminate Argentina Cheesy
Yes, I said this, but do not confuse what I would like with what I believe.

The two best teams are in the finals, and in my eyes Spain looks much, much better. Also, that fire that you mentioned is what drives the Argentinians and because of that they managed to overcome some incredible odds, but this time I think that Spain is the firefighter and will extinguish that fire with ease. But we will see; maybe I'll be wrong in the end.
Spain looks the most compact and stronger team with the way they set up and play but the Argentines have proven time and time again that they do well under pressure. This is going to be an epic final, I don’t know if we’ve ever witnessed a final between the top ranked countries before (No.1 and No.2) and then Messi vs his heir Lamine. For most Barcelona fans that aren’t from Spain it’ll be a happy watch for them.
Will Spain be able to extinguish the fire of this Argentines or will Argentina be able to penetrate this very compact and solid Spaniards.

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July 17, 2026, 12:54:11 PM
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If we're talking conspiracy theories, Yamal is just like Messi in terms of PR - his PR has been far ahead of his actual achievements. Therefore, the upcoming game looks very much like one FIFA golden boy handing over the job to another. The only thing that confuses me is that Yamal's political views are completely different from those the puppeteers want to promote. If it weren't for this nuance, I would have gone all-in on Spain.
If we talk about purely sporting factors, Spain is a big favorite in its own right.

Even for the last Ballon d'Or I didn't see anyone having that much PR in comparison to Yamal. He wasn't given it anyway. Now if Spain win the World Cup then I guess he would be given it. World Cup is over all tournaments in the end.

For the final match bookmakers are also thinking the same by showing Spain the favourites. Their odds are around 2.30 for regular time. If it goes to penalties like the last World Cup final I won't be surprised though.


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July 17, 2026, 01:05:30 PM
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I was supporting England to make their dream come true finally but they failed... But with a really horrible strategy! Why would they get too defensive just because they got 1-0 ahead?

They aren't even the best defense team in the tournament. Tuchel is responsible for this comeback. And I should state my admiration for Messi again. Now it's Messi against Yamal. I'm going for Spain as I don't think they would make the same mistake as England.



It's a finals the whole world want it and it's finally happening. I just think it's a match between the Old Goat vs New Goat and if Argentina win it's Will be a Messi magic but if yamal won its same as that Messi give has thrown to the new Goat and give them the whole heritage of football to take care of football and show how beautiful is football.  But technically it's a really tight match one os the team who has the best defence in the whole worldcup they conceded only 1 goal and the other are the best team to beat any kinda of tight defence and do comeback in every singal match

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July 17, 2026, 01:06:25 PM
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I was supporting England to make their dream come true finally but they failed... But with a really horrible strategy! Why would they get too defensive just because they got 1-0 ahead?

They aren't even the best defense team in the tournament. Tuchel is responsible for this comeback. And I should my admiration for Messi again. Now it's Messi against Yamal. I'm going for Spain as I don't think they would make the same mistake as England.



The only thing that confuses me is that Yamal's political views are completely different from those the puppeteers want to promote. If it weren't for this nuance, I would have gone all-in on Spain.

There is no such thing as "wrong political views" when it comes to chosen opinion leaders.
As long as there are political views, it will keep the folks engaged in energy-draining discourse.
Besides, they always back leaders of all possible opinions to keep control over any narrative.
Who they will never back and/or promote however, is someone who couldn't care less about anything that's going on in the world.


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Success of Argentina and Spain recent years in World Cup, Euro and Coppa America tournaments come from two coaches who were not famous, underrated when they were appointed as head coaches of these national teams. It's like destiny as Scaloni even had hard times of facing with sack but he survived through it and made a massive success era for Argentina together with Messi and his players.

It's interesting that Messi has already played with three player generations in the national team but he only succeeded when playing with players who are younger than him, one generation after his. These players got a lot of benefit with Messi's leadership and after Messi era, likely this national team will struggle with next Coppa America and World Cup tournaments.

But it's about future, firstly and most importantly, they have to focus on the final match and win it to get a third star on their national team's skirt.

I consider this a really difficult match to predict, even if I didn't want to exploit my intuition I can't imagine which of the two could win, I have a sympathy towards Argentina but only because Messi actually plays there.
But the Spanish style of play is worrying, they are very similar but on the one hand Argentina has the fervor of victory, if Spain makes the slightest mistake they could suddenly receive a goal from the champion.
Who are you betting on, if you're betting on?
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In a finals, you can't be too sure of this kind of prediction because teams are capable of bringing the kind of fire that the other brings to the table. if Argentina steps up big time before the finals, expect that they will even do better in the finals. Spain on their own part is a team you cant write off and wont score and sit back the way ENGLAND did so you want to expect a lot of back and fourth in that game. at the end, if the game doesn't take us to penalty shootout, then just expect that we will see series of goals and counters from both ends.
Spain and Argentina have great players, Messi and yamal. You don't know which team will win The winner can be Spain or Argentina but something is certain, a winner will  emerge in the end
However in this final you can  chose any team of your choice if its Argentina you are supporting or Spain the choice is yours.

I'm supporting Spain to win this final this is because Argentina has win it more than them. Spain has only won the w.cup once in their entire football and it was in  2010 So if there is a team that deserve to win this final I think it is Spain..the match will be interesting, Spain will do whatever it would take them to defeat Argentina in this final and Argentina will play their best to win it for the fourth time.
There still nothing wrong if Argentina probably win it for a fourth time.

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I'm supporting Spain to win this final this is because Argentina has win it more than them. Spain has only won the w.cup once in their entire football and it was in  2010 So if there is a team that deserve to win this final I think it is Spain..the match will be interesting, Spain will do whatever it would take them to defeat Argentina in this final and Argentina will play their best to win it for the fourth time.
There still nothing wrong if Argentina probably win it for a fourth time.

The odds where in favour of England to win the game against Argentina but did they win? No! Although Spain are quite different and considering the sides they have faced to get the finals, I honestly think they deserve to be Champions.
If they can dominate the game get a goal and also keep good ball possession of the ball,  then can go ahead to win the game. I will be watching Marc Cucurella if he can successfully hold down Lionel Messi. I'd say both sides scoring during the game.

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