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January 08, 2023, 07:20:46 AM
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Other poor people have no desire to advance in life because they believe that they were born poor and will die poor. It means that people's progress depends on what mindset they believe in.

    There are also others like Poor people with and poor mindset that even though you helped them get out of the pit of poverty in their lives, and even gave them a job, in the end, they still return to the mindset of a poor people. These are the lazy people who always want someone to give them help such as giving them money or relief goods.
everyone who is born in this world is all the same, no one is poor or rich, and it all comes back to the mindset and mentality of how to live life and choose.
no matter how much wealth one has, it will run out if he has a poor mindset and mentality and vice versa, even though he doesn't have the same wealth, he will still be able to become rich if he wants to do and work.
so basically it all comes back to ourselves, we are responsible for ourselves when we are born in this world, and I have never thought that being poor or rich is from the offspring of wealth, everything is from our own mindset and mentality.

and all of that can be changed as long as there is a will for people to gain knowledge and improve their mindset.
to be honest, I have also experienced this, a mental fall and a narrow mindset due to personal problems that I experienced, it took me a long time to get up, but that is certain if there is a real desire.
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January 08, 2023, 09:45:15 AM
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Many poor people live on their paychecks, the moment they get the paycheck all the money is already going somewhere, these type of people will be very hard to persuade to invest in Bitcoin, yet I have come across very few ones that hated their lives and want to do something for themselves, it's all about the will to create changes in one's life.


It's about the will and the determination to achieve your goals. There's still some that can be squeezed with your monthly salary. If you are too determined to work your way, chances of success are always possible.

It's tough, but if you are keen on finding the right way and the right investment for your future,
then expect that there's a good outcome to come on your way.
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January 08, 2023, 12:33:42 PM
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People has a different mind set not all the poor people is not interested about investing on bitcoin there are also poor people that wanted to invest into it but the budget is very few and not enough for investing, so they choose not to do investing.

I have met these cases, honestly, no one wants to be poor forever and the poor know that working alone is not enough to get out of poverty, they need to invest and take risks. But looking back at their circumstances, that doesn't allow them to do that. Even if you don't have enough to eat, how do you invest? We are not them, we are not in their position, so we cannot blame them when they do not innovate, and do not take risks to find opportunities for themselves. Some dreams will never come true.
That's right all poor people certainly don't want conditions like that to happen forever to them,
but it's not that easy to get out of the cycle of poverty,
Most people are either poor in knowledge or skills and they are also limited in such a way that makes it even more difficult

I am disappointed that some people criticize the poor like this or that, but they have never experienced what the poor have to go through. We are luckier than many people, and we should appreciate that, but that doesn't mean we have the right to disparage people who are poorer than us. If we can't help them, we shouldn't hurt them, they're poor, but they haven't raised their hand to ask for our help, and we haven't been able to help them, so we have no right to judge them here.

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January 08, 2023, 04:33:09 PM
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People has a different mind set not all the poor people is not interested about investing on bitcoin there are also poor people that wanted to invest into it but the budget is very few and not enough for investing, so they choose not to do investing.

so true. we cannot presume everyone is of the same mind based on being rich or poor. because it's like you said that there are actually many poor people who also have thoughts about investing. However, it is their financial situation and condition that has limited them. because their income is sometimes only enough to be used right away. so they sometimes have nothing left to save and invest.
I agree with that in any case we can't just average including in this case,
so there must be poor people who have thoughts of investing as you say,
but maybe that's all it is because investment also requires money and that's the problem

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January 08, 2023, 07:46:53 PM
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I think it is not right to belittle yourself for being poor a poor man can change his condition if he wishes. If you have skills and abilities, people rise above the work that's why you have to work hard and don't be lazy and blame it on luck. With enough education, market practice and investing in bitcoin can change the situation education is the main investment to eradicate poverty.
Poverty is beyond your skill, ability and educational qualification, poverty deals with your mindset, it will keep you stagnant and every opportunity that comes your way will not worth the risk of giving it a trial, poverty has to do with your mindset,
 the way you think, the people you talk to , the things you talk about, I know someone that is always questioning people's source of money simply because they are young and doing well which is not meant to be so, they just believe that money is for a certain or particular age group, there by seeing any young man doing well as someone with illegal money.
True. Often times we see people who attain a degree, have a skill or ability but these people are still stagnant or doesn't have a job and then there are people who don't have it all but still became successful or rich. Sometimes it only has to do with our mindset. We shouldn't be lazy, and we should not give up after some rejections or failures. Those people who are doing well and underestimate other people are bad people.

If we came across one and they attack us, we shouldn't get affected on what they say but we should use it as a motivation to improve our life. Money or success isn't only limited for young people so old people shouldn't think that it was too late already to change their life.
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January 08, 2023, 09:29:43 PM
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There are 2 kinds of poor people.

1. There are poor people who really don't know about Bitcoin, and they don't really like investing into Bitcoin and investing other assets. No matter what you will do, they really don't like to invest, and we can't do anything about it.
2. There are poor people who really likes to invest into Bitcoin, but the problem is that they don't have cash or spare money to be used to buy it. Let's accept it. There are some people around that are only earning minimum wage monthly and that's enough for the whole family to sustain their daily lives. Nothing left for savings, nothing left for investment etc.
That second type of people are pretty common in my nation and I can easily say that problems people have in the west are not problems at all in my nation. Like if you lived like the poor person of my nation but earned in USA then you would save insane amount of money there. People there earn at least 4 thousand dollars per month, and live like the poor person of my nation would cost about 200-250 dollars there.

Imagine living in a hub type of small wooden cabin with basically one bed barely fit in there, rain drops into your bed, snow covers inside the house, no bathroom, no shower, no cooking space, that's a terrible way of living and we ask that person to invest into bitcoin? I am sorry but that's just funny.
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January 08, 2023, 09:39:23 PM
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No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

Poverty or degree of wealth accumulation possible is often times outside the control of individuals around the world. The majority of people are born into countries where it is extremely tough to break out of cycles that offer them low wages and very high competition. The internet has been a great equalizer in many respects, offering both knowledge and the means to work in useful services from any corner of the globe with access. Only with the right education, accrued knowledge and maybe essentially time do people have the means to improve their situation. For someone that has to work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week just to sustain their family - the ability to invest or experiment elsewhere might be impossible. Circumstances matter greatly.

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January 08, 2023, 11:54:05 PM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

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January 09, 2023, 11:51:34 AM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.
Yes, it's true, not everyone is lucky and can set aside their money to invest instead of using it to invest but they will be more concerned with the basic needs in their life. Actually you can make investments, but with the risk that they will not be fulfilled even if it is only for food. What's the point of investing but have to ignore or "abandon" yourself or even your family. We cannot judge other people without knowing what they are really experiencing.

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January 09, 2023, 12:01:17 PM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

I really don't like what the OP is saying, it sounds like he is looking down on the poor, and I agree with you that we are just getting luckier than them, not smarter than them. I wish those who are looking down on the poor to try once in the situation of the poor, I want to see how hard those people will work and how they will invest when there is no money to eat. Conversely, if those poor people were in our position, they could be more successful than we are.

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January 09, 2023, 12:26:32 PM
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Being poor start from the mind, which is a simple definition that you can't acquire a future you never admire of, everyone in life is lied with an opportunity to make things change in his life and how we maximize these opportunities determines the extent to how far we can go in achieving them, been born poor is not an excuse before many poor born millionaires started from somewhere without letting their condition and predicaments tackle their progress in life, we choose on what we want which is our desire and relentless efforts towards it make them come into reality either to be poor or rich.
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January 09, 2023, 12:45:34 PM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.
Yes, it's true, not everyone is lucky and can set aside their money to invest instead of using it to invest but they will be more concerned with the basic needs in their life. Actually you can make investments, but with the risk that they will not be fulfilled even if it is only for food. What's the point of investing but have to ignore or "abandon" yourself or even your family. We cannot judge other people without knowing what they are really experiencing.
But will you also agree that investment is about sacrifice. Even with the little one earn they can set aside some amount no matter how small it is for investment. Been born into poverty is one coincidence but remaining poor is a choice. Richies does not spring out from the sky it is one's conscious effort that bring them into the reality of their dreams.

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January 09, 2023, 03:02:32 PM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.
Agree, maybe yes born to a poor family and environment cannot be change but we have a choice, a choice if we will start to grow have some job rebuild our lives managing our finances well, I think in the future it will be brighter. Poor people tend to be unmotivated because of what they can hear just like what the OP are saying but we can take this as a motivation as well not to prove to those people  but to prove to ourselves that we have no limitations as long as we can do thinks possible.
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January 09, 2023, 03:18:02 PM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.
Some people have never been in an economic level position like them, so they say it without proper consideration and judge poor people without knowing their life background, this very economic position is very different from before corona and inflation, many people have lost their jobs and have no income , so if we feel we have enough from our economy to invest, then don't underestimate the poor who are currently never thinking about investing but they are thinking about what can be bought to eat tomorrow.
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January 09, 2023, 03:43:48 PM
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What OP have mentioned will be the real words that come out of a poor person. We need to think why they are taking everything in a negative way and nothing positive. It is just simple, we all live to fulfill our stomach. The poor focusing on his daily bread makes him unaware of what is happening around. Very rare to see people who make themselves strong and progress, and what they achieve will be very big. It is to be noted, rather than feeding with knowledge first it is a must to feed them with food. Automatically their minds will start working and turns positive.

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January 09, 2023, 04:11:05 PM
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First of all, not everyone is privileged enough to afford to invest in crypto. Most people who aren't fortunate live their everyday life working and earning enough just to have some food on their plates. It's inconsiderate enough to blame poor people for staying poor, it's true that there's a lot of opportunity to earn, but not everyone is privileged or can afford to invest. Instead of putting their money into investment, they have bills that are due, they need to spend it somewhere else like food, health, and etc. like everyone else.

It's difficult to criticize poor people if you haven't put yourself in their shoes. Poor people feels lucky enough to be able to eat at least 3 times a day, or even to send their children to school, or even pay their bills on time.
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January 09, 2023, 09:30:42 PM
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You just have to show them proofs and not slamming the door when they say "No" or reasoning out about how it will end up. There are pessimistic people too, do remember that. They are not poor and yet they are not willing to join such things because rumors and gossips came earlier before the marketing team. Back to the poor, they are just trying to be sure and investing in a secure way. They don't have much so might as well get the best out of it and not let it go to waste to HYIP with high risk of getting rekt.
I understand them as I am not far from a poor guy too. Been there, just worked harder.
Not all poor people refuse to invest, they really want to invest as much as they can but they don’t have enough funds to invest. That is why even if they wish too, they will never be profitable as much as rich people do because of their limited funds. And if ever they also have extra funds, they will far to invest in bitcoin because investing in bitcoin does not guarantee quick profits, which I think poor people don’t have that patience to wait for that long.

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January 09, 2023, 09:40:32 PM
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People has a different mind set not all the poor people is not interested about investing on bitcoin there are also poor people that wanted to invest into it but the budget is very few and not enough for investing, so they choose not to do investing.

so true. we cannot presume everyone is of the same mind based on being rich or poor. because it's like you said that there are actually many poor people who also have thoughts about investing. However, it is their financial situation and condition that has limited them. because their income is sometimes only enough to be used right away. so they sometimes have nothing left to save and invest.
Yes, even if they want to, their funds would not be suitable enough as most of their money are already used from paying debts and buying the basic needs of the family. But if they will be given same opportunities like those rich people are enjoying, obviously they will always love the idea to invest. But since they remain less fortunate people, they will always consider putting food on the table first rather than making some investments.

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January 09, 2023, 10:00:27 PM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

I really don't like what the OP is saying, it sounds like he is looking down on the poor, and I agree with you that we are just getting luckier than them, not smarter than them. I wish those who are looking down on the poor to try once in the situation of the poor, I want to see how hard those people will work and how they will invest when there is no money to eat. Conversely, if those poor people were in our position, they could be more successful than we are.

I also wasn’t too keen to share in the opinions of the OP. It almost sounded to me like he was kinda putting the blame of not having any financial education and just generally being poor on the poor folks. And a lot of poor folks work really hard in their respective jobs to make ends meet. If it was all about working hard, then I know a lot of people would be billionaires today. I wouldn’t put all the blame on them for their situation.
While a lot of them may be lazy and hesitant to put in any work to better themselves and their lives, a considerable lot also work hard and try to better themselves and their lives.

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January 10, 2023, 08:32:32 AM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

I really don't like what the OP is saying, it sounds like he is looking down on the poor, and I agree with you that we are just getting luckier than them, not smarter than them. I wish those who are looking down on the poor to try once in the situation of the poor, I want to see how hard those people will work and how they will invest when there is no money to eat. Conversely, if those poor people were in our position, they could be more successful than we are.

I also wasn’t too keen to share in the opinions of the OP. It almost sounded to me like he was kinda putting the blame of not having any financial education and just generally being poor on the poor folks. And a lot of poor folks work really hard in their respective jobs to make ends meet. If it was all about working hard, then I know a lot of people would be billionaires today. I wouldn’t put all the blame on them for their situation.
While a lot of them may be lazy and hesitant to put in any work to better themselves and their lives, a considerable lot also work hard and try to better themselves and their lives.

Exactly, there are people who really putting everything at the table to find the best way to better their life, we can say that they are really keen on making success as they wanted to have a better future.

Not only for themselves but more on the side of having a financial stability for them and for
the whole family.

I can say that the intention is there, but the access is limited or just like you say, they are just lazy
or not willing to extend their will to find the right way.
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