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January 10, 2023, 04:24:06 PM
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It's just too sad that most hardwork is not rewarded immediately or at all. Most people hustle and hustle and stil they don't earn anything tangible, it comes down not only to hustling but grace too.
There are people that don't need stress themselves in life but they are earning more than people hustling hard everyday., Most times their parents have opened the way for them and most of them get access to work, contracts through their parents names.
Working hard is a decision and if working hard could lift people from poverty I believe the poor population of some countries especially Nigeria would have been reduced by half.
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January 10, 2023, 05:10:34 PM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

I really don't like what the OP is saying, it sounds like he is looking down on the poor, and I agree with you that we are just getting luckier than them, not smarter than them. I wish those who are looking down on the poor to try once in the situation of the poor, I want to see how hard those people will work and how they will invest when there is no money to eat. Conversely, if those poor people were in our position, they could be more successful than we are.

I also wasn’t too keen to share in the opinions of the OP. It almost sounded to me like he was kinda putting the blame of not having any financial education and just generally being poor on the poor folks. And a lot of poor folks work really hard in their respective jobs to make ends meet. If it was all about working hard, then I know a lot of people would be billionaires today. I wouldn’t put all the blame on them for their situation.
While a lot of them may be lazy and hesitant to put in any work to better themselves and their lives, a considerable lot also work hard and try to better themselves and their lives.

Exactly, there are people who really putting everything at the table to find the best way to better their life, we can say that they are really keen on making success as they wanted to have a better future.

Not only for themselves but more on the side of having a financial stability for them and for
the whole family.

I can say that the intention is there, but the access is limited or just like you say, they are just lazy
or not willing to extend their will to find the right way.

If only it's that easy for them, but it's not. OP should try to be more considerate sometimes rather than saying some things that have no sense at all, maybe he should try to put his life into their shoes to have a better understanding in their reality to see how hard their situation is and that not everyone has the privilege to invest in crypto. We all know that cryptocurrencies can really make someone's life more comfortable if it's used cleverly but the point is, how can they start if they can only afford to eat twice or thrice a day.

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January 10, 2023, 07:00:14 PM
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Other poor people have no desire to advance in life because they believe that they were born poor and will die poor. It means that people's progress depends on what mindset they believe in.

    There are also others like Poor people with and poor mindset that even though you helped them get out of the pit of poverty in their lives, and even gave them a job, in the end, they still return to the mindset of a poor people. These are the lazy people who always want someone to give them help such as giving them money or relief goods.
In my opinion, it is environmental factors that influence a person's mindset. Many people learn from their environment and adopt it as a habit.

The second is access to financial information/education, access to quality books, and again environmental factors that are less supportive for learning (perhaps economic factors, mindset about education, study habits/practical thinking.

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January 10, 2023, 09:18:49 PM
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Other poor people have no desire to advance in life because they believe that they were born poor and will die poor. It means that people's progress depends on what mindset they believe in.

    There are also others like Poor people with and poor mindset that even though you helped them get out of the pit of poverty in their lives, and even gave them a job, in the end, they still return to the mindset of a poor people. These are the lazy people who always want someone to give them help such as giving them money or relief goods.
In my opinion, it is environmental factors that influence a person's mindset. Many people learn from their environment and adopt it as a habit.

The second is access to financial information/education, access to quality books, and again environmental factors that are less supportive for learning (perhaps economic factors, mindset about education, study habits/practical thinking.
Environmental things on the way it would really be including the people who is around you and the establishments and opportunities that it surrounds.If you do see that it isnt something that you could be able to

make up some action then you wont really be seeing yourself be able to progress out and this is in fact the reality which it cant really be avoided or something.When someones mindset is on how to make their living
more better than on the current ones that they are really that experiencing then they would really be finding ways but if they are really just that contented on what they do have currently now then they would
really be sticking into that.

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January 10, 2023, 11:51:17 PM
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Other poor people have no desire to advance in life because they believe that they were born poor and will die poor. It means that people's progress depends on what mindset they believe in.

    There are also others like Poor people with and poor mindset that even though you helped them get out of the pit of poverty in their lives, and even gave them a job, in the end, they still return to the mindset of a poor people. These are the lazy people who always want someone to give them help such as giving them money or relief goods.
In my opinion, it is environmental factors that influence a person's mindset. Many people learn from their environment and adopt it as a habit.

The second is access to financial information/education, access to quality books, and again environmental factors that are less supportive for learning (perhaps economic factors, mindset about education, study habits/practical thinking.

There are a lot of factors that would, in my opinion greatly influence a persons mindset and environmental factors is a teeny tiny percentage. Your environment has a way out influencing your behaviors until they become habits. I think someone could also not be influenced by the environment in which he/she resides. Someone could not let the world around him influence and get to him.
While I think environmental and societal issues could greatly impact on someone’s mindset, I also think it’s not a cause for people to remain poor
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January 11, 2023, 08:54:28 PM
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Yes, it's true, not everyone is lucky and can set aside their money to invest instead of using it to invest but they will be more concerned with the basic needs in their life. Actually you can make investments, but with the risk that they will not be fulfilled even if it is only for food. What's the point of investing but have to ignore or "abandon" yourself or even your family. We cannot judge other people without knowing what they are really experiencing.
But will you also agree that investment is about sacrifice. Even with the little one earn they can set aside some amount no matter how small it is for investment. Been born into poverty is one coincidence but remaining poor is a choice. Richies does not spring out from the sky it is one's conscious effort that bring them into the reality of their dreams.
Of course investment is a sacrifice, but it must also be accompanied by one's ability. Everyone can make sacrifices, but the situation is different here. Are you able to invest but you can't fill your stomach in a full day? This is very selfish in my opinion. I say this because I see some people who even have trouble even if it's just to eat. Sometimes they can eat breakfast, and they find food the next day. We may give suggestions for their future, but not in a way that discredits them.

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January 11, 2023, 10:13:48 PM
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Yes, it's true, not everyone is lucky and can set aside their money to invest instead of using it to invest but they will be more concerned with the basic needs in their life. Actually you can make investments, but with the risk that they will not be fulfilled even if it is only for food. What's the point of investing but have to ignore or "abandon" yourself or even your family. We cannot judge other people without knowing what they are really experiencing.
But will you also agree that investment is about sacrifice. Even with the little one earn they can set aside some amount no matter how small it is for investment. Been born into poverty is one coincidence but remaining poor is a choice. Richies does not spring out from the sky it is one's conscious effort that bring them into the reality of their dreams.
Of course investment is a sacrifice, but it must also be accompanied by one's ability. Everyone can make sacrifices, but the situation is different here. Are you able to invest but you can't fill your stomach in a full day? This is very selfish in my opinion. I say this because I see some people who even have trouble even if it's just to eat. Sometimes they can eat breakfast, and they find food the next day. We may give suggestions for their future, but not in a way that discredits them.
Just be sure that your sacrifices would really be that worth on which you cant really just sacrifice without minding about the probable things that might happen ahead.We know that
not all we do engage do turns out to be positive or really having a good result which it would really be just normal that you should really be that mindful on how to handle it well.
You should make it worth since you had made out some sacrifices because you are really that looking on the better or good side of things and not focusing on the bad ones..
There are just things in life which we cant able to avoid no matter how hard we do work.
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Yes, it's true, not everyone is lucky and can set aside their money to invest instead of using it to invest but they will be more concerned with the basic needs in their life. Actually you can make investments, but with the risk that they will not be fulfilled even if it is only for food. What's the point of investing but have to ignore or "abandon" yourself or even your family. We cannot judge other people without knowing what they are really experiencing.
But will you also agree that investment is about sacrifice. Even with the little one earn they can set aside some amount no matter how small it is for investment. Been born into poverty is one coincidence but remaining poor is a choice. Richies does not spring out from the sky it is one's conscious effort that bring them into the reality of their dreams.
Of course investment is a sacrifice, but it must also be accompanied by one's ability. Everyone can make sacrifices, but the situation is different here. Are you able to invest but you can't fill your stomach in a full day? This is very selfish in my opinion. I say this because I see some people who even have trouble even if it's just to eat. Sometimes they can eat breakfast, and they find food the next day. We may give suggestions for their future, but not in a way that discredits them.
Just be sure that your sacrifices would really be that worth on which you cant really just sacrifice without minding about the probable things that might happen ahead.We know that
not all we do engage do turns out to be positive or really having a good result which it would really be just normal that you should really be that mindful on how to handle it well.
You should make it worth since you had made out some sacrifices because you are really that looking on the better or good side of things and not focusing on the bad ones..
There are just things in life which we cant able to avoid no matter how hard we do work.

Indeed, there are things in life that we can't avoid and what we needed to do is to adjust and try to work on it for much better result, dwelling on it will just limit you to attain success.

It's always a challenge that you needed to compete if you really wanted to have a good future,
those reasoning might be a tough to overcome but it's you and your self-will that will break
that mindset to deliver a good solution in life.
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January 13, 2023, 01:24:21 PM
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No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

You are making this looks like poor people made themselves poor because they chosed to, life is not like that, to some extent we can say that there are some educated people who are poor and have been wanting to get into bitcoin but they are financially constrained because they don't have much to invest, you don't expect a poor person to go and steal and invest because you think bitcoin is the best thing anyone should put their money on. I know people who are super rich and till today, they have not for once put a penny on bitcoin because they think bitcoin doesn't have the utility to convince them enough to put their money on it, life doesn't work that way my friend.

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January 13, 2023, 01:36:03 PM
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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

I really don't like what the OP is saying, it sounds like he is looking down on the poor, and I agree with you that we are just getting luckier than them, not smarter than them. I wish those who are looking down on the poor to try once in the situation of the poor, I want to see how hard those people will work and how they will invest when there is no money to eat. Conversely, if those poor people were in our position, they could be more successful than we are.

I also wasn’t too keen to share in the opinions of the OP. It almost sounded to me like he was kinda putting the blame of not having any financial education and just generally being poor on the poor folks. And a lot of poor folks work really hard in their respective jobs to make ends meet. If it was all about working hard, then I know a lot of people would be billionaires today. I wouldn’t put all the blame on them for their situation.
While a lot of them may be lazy and hesitant to put in any work to better themselves and their lives, a considerable lot also work hard and try to better themselves and their lives.

Exactly, there are people who really putting everything at the table to find the best way to better their life, we can say that they are really keen on making success as they wanted to have a better future.

Not only for themselves but more on the side of having a financial stability for them and for
the whole family.

I can say that the intention is there, but the access is limited or just like you say, they are just lazy
or not willing to extend their will to find the right way.

If only it's that easy for them, but it's not. OP should try to be more considerate sometimes rather than saying some things that have no sense at all, maybe he should try to put his life into their shoes to have a better understanding in their reality to see how hard their situation is and that not everyone has the privilege to invest in crypto. We all know that cryptocurrencies can really make someone's life more comfortable if it's used cleverly but the point is, how can they start if they can only afford to eat twice or thrice a day.

I want to ask OP how he invests when his salary is only enough for 3 meals a day. The OP gave such a harsh view of the poor that I couldn't accept it either. I would love to know if he became rich investing in crypto or if he is just a crypto novice; how can he look down on the poor so much? If you can help the poor, it's really appreciated, if you can't help, there's no need to offend them. Everyone has their own situation and we are not them so it is impossible to understand what they are going through.

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January 13, 2023, 02:39:09 PM
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They use to say that don't let your background take your back to the ground, this means alot to those that can have a good insight to the meaning and in the same way not for us to allow been poor got on us to the extent that we loose hope that we can make it in life and give up attempting, it is bad to be born poor but it's more worst to die been poor, everyone has an opportunity to him to set things right for himself he so he desires, but most people in this situation limited theirselves to how far they could go or become in live by indetermination.

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January 13, 2023, 03:26:22 PM
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No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

You are making this looks like poor people made themselves poor because they chosed to, life is not like that, to some extent we can say that there are some educated people who are poor and have been wanting to get into bitcoin but they are financially constrained because they don't have much to invest, you don't expect a poor person to go and steal and invest because you think bitcoin is the best thing anyone should put their money on. I know people who are super rich and till today, they have not for once put a penny on bitcoin because they think bitcoin doesn't have the utility to convince them enough to put their money on it, life doesn't work that way my friend.

I don't blame poor people if they have low mindset concerning building finance.  They are just how they are because their financial status and it is never their fault,  no one choose to be poor in life,  just that the poor people found themselves into it and if it is easy to change life from being poor to rich it would have been something they would have changed .  Some people know what to do with money to become financially better but what they is not just enough to grow financially. Poor people don't have much to invest,  their biggest fear is fear of lose. They hardly take risk because they can't afford to lose the little money they have.

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January 13, 2023, 10:33:49 PM
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Other poor people have no desire to advance in life because they believe that they were born poor and will die poor. It means that people's progress depends on what mindset they believe in.

    There are also others like Poor people with and poor mindset that even though you helped them get out of the pit of poverty in their lives, and even gave them a job, in the end, they still return to the mindset of a poor people. These are the lazy people who always want someone to give them help such as giving them money or relief goods.

This is not about giving the poor a job or a relief goods, its about giving the poor an opportunity to invest and teach them how to make money on their own through several investments.
This is about their reasoning why they are afraid to put their money into any kind of investments, not about how lazy they are and not working to get a job that pays well. You may not want to generalize the poor people as lazy people, there are those who are less privileged, like the farmers.
You can even blame these people why they're afraid of investment, because they are also afraid to lose their hard earned money in vain. Let's not all forget, one of the golden rule of investment "Invest what you can afford to lose."

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January 14, 2023, 05:45:14 AM
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There are a lot of factors that would, in my opinion greatly influence a persons mindset and environmental factors is a teeny tiny percentage. Your environment has a way out influencing your behaviors until they become habits. I think someone could also not be influenced by the environment in which he/she resides. Someone could not let the world around him influence and get to him.
While I think environmental and societal issues could greatly impact on someone’s mindset, I also think it’s not a cause for people to remain poor
I think the main thing that makes people rich or poor is mindset. In the digital age like today, knowledge is very easy to obtain, access to education is no longer a serious problem.

The current problem that needs to be solved is the willingness to learn and filter the knowledge gained, including the willingness to learn about investing in crypto, which can change one's economy for the better in the future.
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January 14, 2023, 06:21:01 AM
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No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

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The worst people to serve are the Poor people. Give them free, they think it's a trap. Tell them it's a small investment, they'll say can't earn much. Tell them to come in big, they'll say no money. Tell them try new things, they'll say no experience. Tell them it's traditional business, they'll say hard to do. Tell them it's a new business model, they'll say it's MLM. Tell them to run a shop, they'll say no freedom. Tell them run new business, they'll say no expertise.

They do have some things in common:

listen to friends who are as hopeless as them, they think more than a university professor and do less than a blind man.
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

So have you become rich by investing in bitcoin?, if you are rich then you say they can trust you, but you still have nothing in hand then they have no reason to believe you. The poor have more pressing problems to deal with on a daily basis before thinking about investing, so don't belittle them when they don't take your advice.
It's quite funny because you are not richer than anyone but you can call others poor.

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I think the main thing that makes people rich or poor is mindset. In the digital age like today, knowledge is very easy to obtain, access to education is no longer a serious problem.
Not only about the mindset that must be more positive in thinking, but the enthusiasm in trying to continue working must also be prioritized because that is what makes everyone able to produce and make them rich. Because it's true that in an era like now it's very easy to get the knowledge we want, but to get income is always not easy because it requires execution from within each one.

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The current problem that needs to be solved is the willingness to learn and filter the knowledge gained, including the willingness to learn about investing in crypto, which can change one's economy for the better in the future.
In addition to the willingness to be greater in learning so that one can work with one's abilities, encouragement from the environment also needs to be looked at because often a person can become lazy as a result of the influence of his own environment. So instill a better will and motivation to rise from laziness so that the future can be clearer with the goals we have set from now on.

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August 09, 2023, 04:08:45 PM
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There are a lot of factors that would, in my opinion greatly influence a persons mindset and environmental factors is a teeny tiny percentage. Your environment has a way out influencing your behaviors until they become habits. I think someone could also not be influenced by the environment in which he/she resides. Someone could not let the world around him influence and get to him.
While I think environmental and societal issues could greatly impact on someone’s mindset, I also think it’s not a cause for people to remain poor
I think the main thing that makes people rich or poor is mindset. In the digital age like today, knowledge is very easy to obtain, access to education is no longer a serious problem.

The current problem that needs to be solved is the willingness to learn and filter the knowledge gained, including the willingness to learn about investing in crypto, which can change one's economy for the better in the future.
I agree with you on this, but I have a little something to add. The point is if someone is still comfortable with their current mindset, of course it will not change their situation and condition in the future. The convenience of technology will mean nothing in the hands of people who are lazy and don't want to develop their skills. Even though in the eyes of other people he looks poor, any motivation will have no effect on people with a lazy learning character.

By trying to survive while continuing to learn, I'm sure it will change everyone's mindset and work pattern. Especially in the midst of progress in crypto investment, of course it opens up new opportunities to get money that is easier. Even with minimal capital, it will increase over time and the learning process.

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August 09, 2023, 05:35:45 PM
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Very lucky for those of you who live in big cities. Because your mindset and environment tend to be more advanced. There's nothing wrong with your choice, what's wrong is when we don't make choices with logical reasons. We all face tough financial choices sometimes, let alone emergencies. when I try to save, there must be a condition where I have to withdraw money from my savings, of course this condition is also faced by many other people.

But I have never regretted my choice, so my mental state remains optimistic and always motivated. On the other hand I am grateful to have good friends, who are willing to help when I need help. The point is don't blame yourself too much. Think positively by increasing your skills little by little and be patient, effort will not harm the results.

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August 09, 2023, 05:48:45 PM
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Not having enough left for investment is not the issue I have with poor people, the poverty have affected the way they reason as well, many poor people believe that rich people aren't really rich, that they are living on loan all their lives and they feed this nonsense to their children too, as they grow up they won't feel the need to break the chain of poverty, there is a community in my country where this happened.

Most poor people have accepted the way they are and there is nothing you can say to them that will make them change, or thrive to change anything, been poor shouldn't affect the way you think, unfortunately, that's not what's happening with many of these people.

Accepting the way you are when it comes to goal means you have no ambition or dreams, I know some of them want a change but they have no means but the majority of them are deluded, their reasoning is wrong.

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You know, ever wonder why folks end up in financial straits? It's often due to a mindset that resists growth and fails to cast its gaze toward the horizon. Those entrenched in such a mindset are, to put it mildly, playing a dangerous game with their own future. A significant number of them rebuff seismic changes and remain ensnared in the orbit of their existing possessions, content to bask in the glow of what they have.

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