My ignore list got a Christmas cleanup

[NeuroticFish]

I'm making this post because I think that some might be interested, especially after certain discussions not very long ago related to Jerry... (so, @dkbit98, if this is a reason to ignore me, it's up to you, I am playing fair and notifying you).
I was already thinking on this back then, but I made my mind just now and I've also done it now: I've cleaned up my ignore list.

It was not only as a "second chance" gesture (Merry Christmas!), it was also done in order to make sure I won't get into troubles with unresponsive "Ignore users settings" page.
Yeah, I also think that some may have improved in the past years (it's my first such cleanup), but I know that some will think that it's highly unlikely such things happen.


As a matter of fact I've already added back one user, so please don't be too harsh with me; the show goes on.

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[_BlackStar]

Wow, are you going to do it regularly at the end of the year? I'm a little curious about this, sorry.
So far I don't have many users in my ignore list, it only has a few users. But your idea seems pretty good considering it's always possible to wish someone was better now since being ignored. But I will double check before I delete everything, especially cheaters I think they should stay there forever.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

OP, you're being very generous, which I respect.  There have been a handful of members I've taken off my ignore list over the years, but from what I've seen very few deserve a second chance because most shitposters don't ever improve their post quality.  That's not true of all of them, but it's a general rule that's so infrequently violated that I wouldn't even consider clearing my ignore list.

Same goes for my list of users blocked from sending me PMs.  But hey, to each his own.  I'm an old grinch who's got little sympathy for crappy posters, and you've got the Christmas spirit.  Keep spreadin' the cheer!

[Poker Player]

Well, I guess my case is different, because I think I do not have many shitposters on ignore, some like cryptoboss and such, I rather usually report shitposters but those who have years of experience in the forum with certain knowledge as franky1 or Timelord2067 I put them on ignore and I have never regretted. I think that the ignore is a great tool to avoid messes and headaches.

In my case it's not a matter of giving them a second chance, it's giving me the opportunity to have a more bearable experience in the forum.

[NeuroticFish]

Wow, are you going to do it regularly at the end of the year? I'm a little curious about this, sorry.

No, I don't have plans to do this on each end of the year. Maybe in 4-5 years I'll do it again

Having people on ignore list means I didn't spend time reading posts with high chance to hold no value.
And I expect to have to put most of them back though the following months, excepting those who have became inactive and the very few that have improved.
Plus, if this becomes a rule, then it becomes more a standard than a Christmas surprise , which I also don't want to happen.

[Timelord2067]

For context, the previous poster (post #4) is sad owing to this being on their Trust Feedback page:

Timelord2067

2021-12-28

I supported PP in their thread examining lightlord's recent behaviour. Then, thread that looked at connections (linked by 3rd person) between PP & 2 other UID's. PP has chosen to turn my support of dkbit98 into a personal attack against myself *even though* I made no accusations against PP As I more than once told marlboroza: "Respect is a two way street"

(so, @dkbit98, if this is a reason to ignore me, it's up to you,

Basically, you and I are being caught up in the cross fire of the stouch between these two persons.

Sad really.

[NeuroticFish]

Let's stay in the Christmas spirit and not start flame wars here, please. It's not the purpose of this topic and it may force me lock it earlier than I intended.

[Timelord2067]

Let's stay in the Christmas spirit and not start flame wars here, please. It's not the purpose of this topic and it may force me lock it earlier than I intended.

Believe me I'd like to start 2023 afresh and was hoping that by watering down what I *could* have said hoped to start a dialogue in the hope of reaching out with an olive branch and clearing entrenched misunderstandings.  Hence my comment that it is sad that I supported that user and they in turn ignore me.

Like the other posters in this this thread I have very few UID's on ignore - less than ten from recollection.  How many UID's do you have on ignore?  And, what would be an "Okay" number (to have on ignore) ??

[NeuroticFish]

Believe me I'd like to start 2023 afresh and was hoping that by watering down what I *could* have said hoped to start a dialogue in the hope of reaching out with an olive branch and clearing entrenched misunderstandings.  Hence my comment that it is sad that I supported that user and they in turn ignore me.

Well, calling names is not really an olive branch 
However, you have to understand that you may not be able to change others' impressions/ideas/thoughts and move on. You can start afresh also by not caring that much about what others think. It's all about (your) mindset. (But I'm not saying anything new, isn't it?)

How many UID's do you have on ignore?  And, what would be an "Okay" number (to have on ignore) ??

There's no rule for an "okay"  number , it's really up to people's standards and, very important, the forum subs one is reading or ignoring.
I have P&S and also Altcoins and some others too on ignore, hence my ignore list was not very big. It had though nearly 500 entries.
I've read about people who couldn't open that settings page when reaching bigger numbers (I think that it was 2000). And I think that there's a good chance that at least 1/4 of my list was already made of inactive or banned accounts.

[crwth]

Respect with your decision to clean up your ignore list since it’s a big deal to do that when you are really trying to change and be better and give a chance towards those who you think have changed as well. It is easy to put them back if you’re still not satisfied with what they’re saying.

What do you think other aspects could be done similar to this? In a general sense. 

[Timelord2067]

Well, calling names is not really an olive branch 

I conceded that point.

I had no idea we could even add 500 plus users to our ignore lists (my ten or so users' list pales into insignificance against those sorts of numbers).  That might be why some of the hard core ignorers have gresemonkey add-ons to mask users' posts (which makes you wonder why they are even in the Forum if they choose to ignore so many voices around them)

[NeuroticFish]

What do you think other aspects could be done similar to this? In a general sense. 

Sorry, nothing comes to my mind. I've done the same in the settings of BitcoinTalk SuperNotifier, but there were only 5 names in that ignore list.

I had no idea we could even add 500 plus users to our ignore lists (my ten or so users' list pales into insignificance against those sorts of numbers).  That might be why some of the hard core ignorers have gresemonkey add-ons to mask users' posts (which makes you wonder why they are even in the Forum if they choose to ignore so many voices around them)

Well, although I do use the bpip extension in my browser, one doesn't need anything special to see (and click) the Ignore link in the user profiles in all their posts.
I don't think that anything more complicated (greasemonkey / custom scripts) would be needed.

[_BlackStar]

No, I don't have plans to do this on each end of the year. Maybe in 4-5 years I'll do it again

LOL, really? I think most of them are no longer living on the forum.

Having people on ignore list means I didn't spend time reading posts with high chance to hold no value.
And I expect to have to put most of them back though the following months, excepting those who have became inactive and the very few that have improved.
Plus, if this becomes a rule, then it becomes more a standard than a Christmas surprise , which I also don't want to happen.

Some shitposters would be better off when they realized a few things about bitcoin earning opportunities through their accounts. There is a trend where a lot of bounty hunters are starting to take advantage of the kindness and generosity of merit source to earn some merit to be eligible to apply for signature campaign, this trend has increased and it is true that I have seen them trying to stay on threads that allow them to get some merit.

I don't know why this could become the new standard and what the considerations are, but I don't want it because basically there are a lot of users who deserve to be on the ignore list forever. But I guess I can be kind on birthdays instead of at the end of the year, it's like remission for prisoners. LOL

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I don't know why this could become the new standard and what the considerations are, but I don't want it because basically there are a lot of users who deserve to be on the ignore list forever. But I guess I can be kind on birthdays instead of at the end of the year, it's like remission for prisoners. LOL

Remission?
Or reminders for them to stop shitposting and get back with some real passionate gesture without the hunger to earn merits, but honestly give their best to the community without the greed of getting rewarded for it?
I don't keep users on ignore lists because to me, I believe that sometimes we miss out on a great discussion or debate between some user we ignored and the other person whom we adore. But like bearded baby said, to each his own.

@NeuroticFish, such a nice way to wish Merry Christmas while throwing away grudges and hard feelings out of your heart and mind for the users on your ignore list (especially for dkbit98).

[NeuroticFish]

@NeuroticFish, such a nice way to wish Merry Christmas while throwing away grudges and hard feelings out of your heart and mind for the users on your ignore list (especially for dkbit98).

I think that something was misunderstood. dkbit98 was never on my ignore list. But he warned me some months ago that if don't ignore / I keep answering to Jerry he will add me to his ignore list.
So Jerry was on my ignore list for a while (although I am still not perfectly and 100% sure it was the right decision), but he's out of that list again.
This is why I've notified him specifically. That's all.

LOL, really? I think most of them are no longer living on the forum.

Exactly. Most of those spamming for some pennies may be long gone (and others coming, no worries) and the few ones remaining may have learned their ways and have become meaningful by then.

[JollyGood]

Well, as long as the list does not get too long it will be something to consider revising but after a certain point (as the OP mentioned) there is a possibility of getting those unresponsive ignore user pages. It is coming to the end of 2022 therefore maybe we all should make a resolution in some capacity  

OP, you're being very generous, which I respect.  There have been a handful of members I've taken off my ignore list over the years, but from what I've seen very few deserve a second chance because most shitposters don't ever improve their post quality.  That's not true of all of them, but it's a general rule that's so infrequently violated that I wouldn't even consider clearing my ignore list.

Same goes for my list of users blocked from sending me PMs.  But hey, to each his own.  I'm an old grinch who's got little sympathy for crappy posters, and you've got the Christmas spirit.  Keep spreadin' the cheer!

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

It was not only as a "second chance" gesture (Merry Christmas!), it was also done in order to make sure I won't get into troubles with unresponsive "Ignore users settings" page.
Yeah, I also think that some may have improved in the past years (it's my first such cleanup), but I know that some will think that it's highly unlikely such things happen.

I respect your decision which is right and considerable enough to have given a second chance and not only that, but for those you might have ignored out of emotion because of certain conditions that may not warrant that, but it's still your choice and decision to make and judge, you're better far from others who will take on this kind of pressure from shitposters or probably from post they did not admire enough and tag them rather than reporting to moderators or ignoring such users, this kind of your decision does not go alone with Christmas but the Yuletide entirely to rethink and reset for a new year.

As a matter of fact I've already added back one user, so please don't be too harsh with me; the show goes on.

Of course this has no barrier at all, any member proving desirous for a new version should definitely be enlisted, as old things have passed away and all things become new, never hesitate adding up for the new list as long as they are worth deserving.

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I think that something was misunderstood. dkbit98 was never on my ignore list. But he warned me some months ago that if don't ignore / I keep answering to Jerry he will add me to his ignore list.

I'm not sure who Jerry is, but it sounds like a legitimate ignore reason by dkbit98.

my ignore list is not too extensive and there are only dominant trolls and uncompromising spammers. I don't see how anyone can improve their communication here while excluding everyone whose opinion they don't like. It boils down to a narrow circle of people, but in that case, a forum is not the best communication platform.

[JollyGood]

Your post reminded me of something. Though this is a little off topic, I remember receiving a PM from a member who told me something similar about being given an ultimatum.

He said figmentofmyass (yes the one with several accounts rolled on to various campaigns including at least three known farmed accounts rolled on to the Chipmixer at the same time) had told him to add me to his distrust/exclusion list otherwise figmentofmyass would exclude him.

The member never gave in to threats or blackmail, he did not exclude me but a short while later when the known farmed accounts of figmentofmyass were exposed in this thread, I realised I must have tagged one or more of his farmed accounts (that he was trying to build up) with negative trust therefore he took the step to try to mitigate his losses and resorting to threats in order to achieve his objective. To this day I do not know how many people he contacted to try to get them to exclude me but at least one member did let me know.

Basically, regardless of which members might be involved in any case (and not being specific about your case with dkbit98), I think it is petty conduct for one member to say to another they will be added to an ignore list if they do not do such and such as instructed especially if it means controlling who you can or cannot even post to. That in itself is tantamount to blackmail.

I do not know who Jerry is but you excluding or ignoring him and others has to be your own decision and not that of someone that does not like Jerry or others you post to.

@NeuroticFish, such a nice way to wish Merry Christmas while throwing away grudges and hard feelings out of your heart and mind for the users on your ignore list (especially for dkbit98).

I think that something was misunderstood. dkbit98 was never on my ignore list. But he warned me some months ago that if don't ignore / I keep answering to Jerry he will add me to his ignore list.
So Jerry was on my ignore list for a while (although I am still not perfectly and 100% sure it was the right decision), but he's out of that list again.
This is why I've notified him specifically. That's all.

[NeuroticFish]

That in itself is tantamount to blackmail.

You are only partly correct. In this case I've understand is reasons, since I've been there too. I've also had moments I thought that Jerry may be a spammer (I was not that certain, still...). Later on it has become clearer to me that he was just a guy that felt insecure about his every step, not an actual forum spammer.

So imho it's one of the few accounts who might deserve a second chance. I guess that we don't share this opinion, still, as I said, I understand his.
It may not matter much, Jerry hasn't posted since October (or at least he didn't in the subs not ignored by me).