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March 23, 2023, 02:09:09 PM
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Your choice. But as far as I know, you should base it from the player's wager(s) in relation to the house edge of the games he/she played.
I thought of this formula:
Bonus = {(Wagered Amount) * [(House Edge %)/ 10]}
Since games has different house edge, just classify them and get the summation afterwards.
I'm not sure if this can be applicable though. I'm just guessing base on my experience as a player.

This bonus computation is for a rakeback if I’m not mistaken. Rakeback is always part of the VIP/loyalty award of the casino like Punt. I believ Punt is asking for a special promo and not the regular rakeback bonus applied to wager.

Bonus type like what Duelbits given in form of free spin, boosted odds on sportsbook or random cash drop with just x1 wagering requirements is what most the players looking forward in the casino. This kind of bonuses will make players check the casino.

Isn't rakeback like cashback or is it different from cashback? It's also confusing because sometimes it's those two. Or maybe the rakeback bonus will only come in if we play gambling often in a casino and if you don't gamble on their platform, you won't receive any rakeback, right? Sometimes I don't pay attention to that because if I can play gambling in slot games, it's fine with me even if I lose and if I win it's even better.

Rakeback is some amount that the casino offers you back for every bet you place there,most casinos implement this type of bonus only for casino games like slot machines and luck based games in order to give somewhat of a compensation for the house edge.

For example Stake has 5% of Rakeback of the house edge for every bet you place on the casino or for every bet for example at a minimum like 0.10 dollar and a house edge of 4% you get a rakeback for this bet and the amount is 4% house edge multiplied by 5% equal to 0.2,now 0.10 bet multiplied by 0.2 in percentage is you get 0.0002 dollar back for every bet you place in the casino.
Cashback is a bonus the casinos offer you which you can use it anywhere including sport betting and that is one difference.

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March 23, 2023, 02:40:41 PM
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Your choice. But as far as I know, you should base it from the player's wager(s) in relation to the house edge of the games he/she played.
I thought of this formula:
Bonus = {(Wagered Amount) * [(House Edge %)/ 10]}
Since games has different house edge, just classify them and get the summation afterwards.
I'm not sure if this can be applicable though. I'm just guessing base on my experience as a player.

This bonus computation is for a rakeback if I’m not mistaken. Rakeback is always part of the VIP/loyalty award of the casino like Punt. I believ Punt is asking for a special promo and not the regular rakeback bonus applied to wager.

Bonus type like what Duelbits given in form of free spin, boosted odds on sportsbook or random cash drop with just x1 wagering requirements is what most the players looking forward in the casino. This kind of bonuses will make players check the casino.

Isn't rakeback like cashback or is it different from cashback? It's also confusing because sometimes it's those two. Or maybe the rakeback bonus will only come in if we play gambling often in a casino and if you don't gamble on their platform, you won't receive any rakeback, right? Sometimes I don't pay attention to that because if I can play gambling in slot games, it's fine with me even if I lose and if I win it's even better.
Rakeback is a form of bonus that is given by casinos to players who bet in it and from my experience usually the biggest rakeback is poker games.
But you need to know that not all gamblers can get rakeback because only gamblers who bet until they reach a large amount usually gamblers can get rakeback of 25% to 50% of what has been staked.
This bonus is actually quite profitable, but we need to use a lot of money and of course we can survive in a gambling game that is given a rakeback bonus by the casino.

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March 23, 2023, 04:42:20 PM
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Betting responsibly and always controlling emotions when betting I think it won't be too difficult to reach VIP rank.
I've read the experiences of other people on this forum who bet with a small bankroll after that bet the minimum bet amount on a game of blackjack he bet carefully and bet for 3 hours ended up getting over $ 2000 and the account rating became VIP.
Yes maybe it depends on one's condition of luck but I'm sure if everyone bets slowly without being greedy and controls their emotions, I'm sure it won't be difficult to reach VIP.
I don't think we need to think about reaching the VIP level because by betting responsibly and controlling the use of money, one day, we will surely be able to reach VIP without us even realizing it.
But it's a different story if we really intend to reach the VIP level within a certain time because we hear about the bonuses we get.
And if that is our goal, we must understand that reaching the VIP level will take a lot of money and time to get there.
And even though we can already deposit more money, that also doesn't guarantee we can reach VIP because other people must act the same as us.
So we should play gambling sober and enjoy the gambling game so that we don't feel any burden.
Im not really that a fan on having those rankings or whatsoever but i cant also ignore those bonuses and perks on which these vips could really be having compared when you are just an ordinary player.

We know that bonuses and promotions are really that subjected to terms and conditions.They might be giving off those rewards and prizes but we should really be that mindful about on how much money we do able to wager before we do able to reach that one out.Somehow its true that if you are really just that playing for fun and wouldnt be minding on how far you do able to reach out when it comes to rankings
then its good but if you are really that going after with these ranks and titles then i would say it would be a bad idea on chasing it out.
After some of these chats I came to think of something interesting for us to pay attention to.
Saying betting for fun until waiting for the rank to rise to VIP to receive the weekly or monthly bonus features we can get, rather than chasing VIP rank will only cost a lot of money.
But I think it would be better if for example you make a deposit and bet for fun to complete the conditions on the bonus.
If we bet for fun, we will usually be luckier to last longer until we reach the target conditions for the bonus.
So we not only get a data safe bonus but also our rank will enter the VIP rank.
So that we can get 2x profits by betting for fun.

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March 23, 2023, 04:48:03 PM
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But you need to know that not all gamblers can get rakeback because only gamblers who bet until they reach a large amount usually gamblers can get rakeback of 25% to 50% of what has been staked.

Are you sure there is a casino that gives you 25%-50% rakeback of what you have staked/wagered in the casino?
As long as I know, rakeback is calculated from the house edge, not solely from what you wagered/staked.
If there is a casino that gives you such huge rakeback, would you mind to share with me the name of the casino you are referring to?
Perhaps many gamblers will move to this casino because of the huge rakeback.

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March 23, 2023, 05:52:10 PM
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I don't think we need to think about reaching the VIP level because by betting responsibly and controlling the use of money, one day, we will surely be able to reach VIP without us even realizing it.
But it's a different story if we really intend to reach the VIP level within a certain time because we hear about the bonuses we get.
And if that is our goal, we must understand that reaching the VIP level will take a lot of money and time to get there.
And even though we can already deposit more money, that also doesn't guarantee we can reach VIP because other people must act the same as us.
So we should play gambling sober and enjoy the gambling game so that we don't feel any burden.
They say that each gamblers has their own goal so I believe that there are also gamblers whose aim is to reach VIP or certain levels of it. They can feel a sense of achievement when they get it. If you play responsibly, it will take time for you to touch the VIP of a gambling site but playing responsibly is still better no doubt as we can only lose small amounts this way and on top of it is we still get entertained.

Each site is different when it comes to VIP rewards. Some are less worthy but their wager requirement is much smaller. There are still ways to wager high and use only minimal amounts of money. One of it is by playing on high chance games.

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Isn't rakeback like cashback or is it different from cashback?

Two different things!

Rakeback is some amount that the casino offers you back for every bet you place there,most casinos implement this type of bonus only for casino games like slot machines and luck based games in order to give somewhat of a compensation for the house edge.

Rakeback is what we get back for every placed bet, casinos with this option have their own math on how they calculate it, and in most cases, with higher levels, the rakeback is also higher.

Cashback on other hand is what we get back from the amount we lost! Some casinos have that feature, and there are special promotions with "higher cashback" on specific days.

A simple example:

a) Playing a game and winning: There will be rakeback, but there is no cashback.

b) Playing a game and losing: There will be rakeback and cashback.

c) We can include "even": There will be rakeback, but no cashback.

Rakeback and Cashback are not available in all casinos. Casinos with this feature have different percentages for different levels, on some occasions "special days with higher "Cashback/Rakeback"".

But you need to know that not all gamblers can get rakeback because only gamblers who bet until they reach a large amount usually gamblers can get rakeback of 25% to 50% of what has been staked.

Are you sure there is a casino that gives you 25%-50% rakeback of what you have staked/wagered in the casino?
As long as I know, rakeback is calculated from the house edge, not solely from what you wagered/staked.
If there is a casino that gives you such huge rakeback, would you mind to share with me the name of the casino you are referring to?
Perhaps many gamblers will move to this casino because of the huge rakeback.

I would like to hear the name of the casino that gives that high rakeback! Smiley

He probably doesn't know what he's talking about.

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March 23, 2023, 08:37:33 PM
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Currently we offer level-up bonuses for our VIP and rakeback. However, due to popular demand, we are looking to implement weekly and monthly bonuses as well. Do you guys happen to have any recommendations for a formula we should use in determining what an appropriate weekly/monthly bonus should be?

We would love to hear feedback from all bitcointalk members!

Hope you guys have an awesome and safe New Years! Smiley

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if you want or can pick a lucky user using raffle or any kind of draw and reward the user but it is not that effective in my opinion from casino's perspective.
I personal don't think the idea of a raffle draw would be a great idea and this is because raffles are not targeted on worthy customers but is just something based on luck for a customer. I don't know if you get what I mean, like with raffles customers may not be motivated to actively make streaks of wagers since the standard for getting bonuses is rather through raffle and not based on how many wager or how active you are in a week or month.
Or this would really just simply make those big wagerers lost up interest because they do know that the odds on winning is less even how much they had wagered out since this would fall down on a lottery or

raffle game which even to those small time players could possibly be able to hit up those bonuses or winnings.Yes, on the other side it would really be hooking up those small time players on playing but we know that on a gambling platform business then the ones you should really be focused on or to protect on is on how to hold those big time players on which they wont really be flocking away into other place.
This means that it would really be significantly affecting in overall revenue but its up actually on how you would really be able to handle it out.

Well, the ideas are great, but I think a special bonus could be given to those users who have lost a lot and also have a draw, and that draw is a bonus without impossible conditions as we are used to seeing in most Casinos. .

If a Casino starts to do this, it would call attention to casino players, those who have played and lost, because they are considered to do something that can benefit them and they would be doing something unique and the traffic would be impressive. If they do it, the best thing is that after this, the players will be very interested in playing again.

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March 23, 2023, 08:43:05 PM
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Betting responsibly and always controlling emotions when betting I think it won't be too difficult to reach VIP rank.
I've read the experiences of other people on this forum who bet with a small bankroll after that bet the minimum bet amount on a game of blackjack he bet carefully and bet for 3 hours ended up getting over $ 2000 and the account rating became VIP.
Yes maybe it depends on one's condition of luck but I'm sure if everyone bets slowly without being greedy and controls their emotions, I'm sure it won't be difficult to reach VIP.
I don't think we need to think about reaching the VIP level because by betting responsibly and controlling the use of money, one day, we will surely be able to reach VIP without us even realizing it.
But it's a different story if we really intend to reach the VIP level within a certain time because we hear about the bonuses we get.
And if that is our goal, we must understand that reaching the VIP level will take a lot of money and time to get there.
And even though we can already deposit more money, that also doesn't guarantee we can reach VIP because other people must act the same as us.
So we should play gambling sober and enjoy the gambling game so that we don't feel any burden.
Im not really that a fan on having those rankings or whatsoever but i cant also ignore those bonuses and perks on which these vips could really be having compared when you are just an ordinary player.

We know that bonuses and promotions are really that subjected to terms and conditions.They might be giving off those rewards and prizes but we should really be that mindful about on how much money we do able to wager before we do able to reach that one out.Somehow its true that if you are really just that playing for fun and wouldnt be minding on how far you do able to reach out when it comes to rankings
then its good but if you are really that going after with these ranks and titles then i would say it would be a bad idea on chasing it out.
After some of these chats I came to think of something interesting for us to pay attention to.
Saying betting for fun until waiting for the rank to rise to VIP to receive the weekly or monthly bonus features we can get, rather than chasing VIP rank will only cost a lot of money.
But I think it would be better if for example you make a deposit and bet for fun to complete the conditions on the bonus.
If we bet for fun, we will usually be luckier to last longer until we reach the target conditions for the bonus.
So we not only get a data safe bonus but also our rank will enter the VIP rank.
So that we can get 2x profits by betting for fun.
This what should people do so that they wont really be ending up on having that desperate approach towards gambling on where they are trying out to achieve something.Its not that bad but we know that if we do

tolerate out such kind of feeling then it would really make us that desperate which is something thats bad when it touches out the gambling field. We know that VIP levels and ranks is very common nowadays.
Almost platforms on which i do able to test out on which they are really that having the same concept and overall functions when it comes to this matter.

What we do want? Its something that we havent seen before because just like the rest been saying that time comes that all of these would end up to be boring soon.

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You can literally have much more fun if you receive a bonus. I don't get it why you're telling us that it does not matter. Most bonuses are small if we only wager small amounts. On the other hand, for high rollers, I believe bonuses DOES matter for them. First of all, the amount of bonus you can get depends to your wagered amount.
Bonuses are not fun. Bonuses encourage us to gamble longer.  Because when we get bonus, a kind of greed works in us and we get motivated to increase our level further and thus we can fall into gambling addiction any time. So I don't think it's bad to continue gambling in general just for fun. And it's better not to focus on the bonus.  But luckily if you get a bonus while gambling then it will serve as a small gift. It will be more fun when you get a small gift without knowing it

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The team have done well to have put out this thread to collate players' opinions on the best possible bonus that will suit their preference, and from the response of many members here, I am sure the punt admin will already have varieties to choose from as the case may be.

-But meeting some house requirements may look hard to accomplish, but then it is more better to have a bonus to fall back to at the end of the game sessions.



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March 23, 2023, 10:52:04 PM
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Many casinos only offer welcome bonuses or free spin bonuses, which may not be as attractive as rakeback and cashback bonuses especialy for players who are gambling with good amounts of money. Without these bonuses losing a large amount of money can be hard and discouraging and players may not get another chance to play. Unfortunately casinos that offer both of these bonuses typically have a low percentage of return and go for less than 2%.
In my opinion it would be beneficial to activate both rakeback and cashback bonuses and offer a fair percentage. it would be more attractive for players to continue playing if applying such bonuses and they would have a higher chance of winning back their losses.

Asking for Bitcointalk members' opinions can help showing how well your casino is performing and also will help you to see what improvements can be made.

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Your bonuses only gets bigger if you wager a higher amount of money, for people like me the bonus part is always not enough, because I prefer playing with low amount of money, it's even why bonuses don't look that interesting to me anymore after I found out that big players are the ones that benefits the most from bonuses.

Welcome bonuses, deposit bonuses, these two are what I care about, so yes bonus is a very attractive offers from online casinos, bonuses are very important.

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March 24, 2023, 08:35:36 AM
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Your bonuses only gets bigger if you wager a higher amount of money, for people like me the bonus part is always not enough, because I prefer playing with low amount of money, it's even why bonuses don't look that interesting to me anymore after I found out that big players are the ones that benefits the most from bonuses.

Welcome bonuses, deposit bonuses, these two are what I care about, so yes bonus is a very attractive offers from online casinos, bonuses are very important.
Yes, for weekly bonuses, let alone monthly, usually for people who have big money with high and big bets, they will get bonuses, not for small gamblers, but for deposit welcome bonuses, it is still affordable for small gamblers to get them. that's why the welcome bonus is better than any other bonus because all in all, I'm one of those little gamblers who feels that way  Wink

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March 24, 2023, 08:45:10 AM
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Your bonuses only gets bigger if you wager a higher amount of money, for people like me the bonus part is always not enough, because I prefer playing with low amount of money, it's even why bonuses don't look that interesting to me anymore after I found out that big players are the ones that benefits the most from bonuses.

Welcome bonuses, deposit bonuses, these two are what I care about, so yes bonus is a very attractive offers from online casinos, bonuses are very important.

This is the most common mistake by newbie gamblers who are interested to deposit bonus/welcome bonus than bonus for being active (VIP bonus). Deposit/welcome bonus comes with high wagering requirement and some other terms while VIP bonus comes with no wagering requirement. I have no idea how can people is more interested with welcome/deposit bonus than VIP bonus. We do not even need to have a lot of money in order to enjoy the benefits of VIP program. I'm small gambler whose average bet amount is under $0.5 but I can enjoy the benefits of VIP program in 2 different casinos (Duelbits and Stake).
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March 24, 2023, 11:07:35 AM
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Welcome bonuses, deposit bonuses, these two are what I care about, so yes bonus is a very attractive offers from online casinos, bonuses are very important.
How can you prioritize welcome bonuses and deposit bonuses?
Aren't the two bonuses that you can't get at any time? A welcome bonus might be able to get easily when a new gambler registers at a casino that he's never used, but what deposit bonus are you sure you can prioritize because there's definitely a minimum deposit limit on the bonus? this one even on average has a fairly high limit.
If you say which bonus is the most profitable, then I will choose a bonus on a high VIP rank account because every gambler who has a high VIP account can claim quite a lot of monthly weekly bonuses, even if the last bet is a large number of gamblers can claim bonuses every day.
So are you sure what you have said that only the welcome and deposit bonuses matter the most?

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March 24, 2023, 05:30:01 PM
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Your bonuses only gets bigger if you wager a higher amount of money, for people like me the bonus part is always not enough, because I prefer playing with low amount of money, it's even why bonuses don't look that interesting to me anymore after I found out that big players are the ones that benefits the most from bonuses.

Welcome bonuses, deposit bonuses, these two are what I care about, so yes bonus is a very attractive offers from online casinos, bonuses are very important.

This is the most common mistake by newbie gamblers who are interested to deposit bonus/welcome bonus than bonus for being active (VIP bonus). Deposit/welcome bonus comes with high wagering requirement and some other terms while VIP bonus comes with no wagering requirement. I have no idea how can people is more interested with welcome/deposit bonus than VIP bonus. We do not even need to have a lot of money in order to enjoy the benefits of VIP program. I'm small gambler whose average bet amount is under $0.5 but I can enjoy the benefits of VIP program in 2 different casinos (Duelbits and Stake).

I think that a monthly bonus of 10% subject to some level of playing or even a regularity in the playing, like at least 3 days a week, would attrac the right customer for a site. You do not want people who will stay there 4 hours a day, because for most that is simply not possible to afford in the long term, but encouraging the play without promoting the addiction is probably the sweet spot to find.

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March 25, 2023, 12:58:32 PM
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But you need to know that not all gamblers can get rakeback because only gamblers who bet until they reach a large amount usually gamblers can get rakeback of 25% to 50% of what has been staked.

Are you sure there is a casino that gives you 25%-50% rakeback of what you have staked/wagered in the casino?
As long as I know, rakeback is calculated from the house edge, not solely from what you wagered/staked.
If there is a casino that gives you such huge rakeback, would you mind to share with me the name of the casino you are referring to?
Perhaps many gamblers will move to this casino because of the huge rakeback.

I believe in that and several gambler friends have told me they can get 25% to 50% rakeback.
You ask me the name of the casino that gives rakeback up to that?
I've never gotten that rakeback because I don't like the game of poker and I'm a bit of a gambler who hasn't been able to spend a lot of money betting so big rakeback has never been my experience.
Later I will ask them and I will share their experiences here.
Have you gambled so recently that you don't know of a casino that gives high rakeback on their poker games.

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March 25, 2023, 01:04:49 PM
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I believe in that and several gambler friends have told me they can get 25% to 50% rakeback.
You ask me the name of the casino that gives rakeback up to that?
I've never gotten that rakeback because I don't like the game of poker and I'm a bit of a gambler who hasn't been able to spend a lot of money betting so big rakeback has never been my experience.
Later I will ask them and I will share their experiences here.
Have you gambled so recently that you don't know of a casino that gives high rakeback on their poker games.

Based on my educated guess, the percentage could come from the rake in the poker room. Let's say it offers 10% and you place a bet of $10, the rakeback is $1 and the 25% from that $1 is $0.25.

A simple Google search reveals some entries, so not impossible.

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Your bonuses only gets bigger if you wager a higher amount of money, for people like me the bonus part is always not enough, because I prefer playing with low amount of money, it's even why bonuses don't look that interesting to me anymore after I found out that big players are the ones that benefits the most from bonuses.

Welcome bonuses, deposit bonuses, these two are what I care about, so yes bonus is a very attractive offers from online casinos, bonuses are very important.
Being able to get a bonus is certainly fun because that's what people want, but unfortunately, many of us don't know the terms and conditions. Maybe we are looking for a welcome bonus, deposit bonus, weekly bonus or other bonuses, but make sure we understand the terms and conditions. Maybe our bonus can get bigger by using big money, but maybe that's not always true because certain bonuses have wagering requirements that every gambler must meet. So if you can accept the term and conditions, you may get the bonus.

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March 25, 2023, 02:20:47 PM
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What we do want? Its something that we havent seen before because just like the rest been saying that time comes that all of these would end up to be boring soon.
With this thread, we will know what things we have never encountered to get rid of boredom in gambling, such as bonuses that are different from other casinos.
If you read almost all the replies, you have almost the same wishes as a no-deposit bonus or even a bonus without total bet requirements.
But how is it possible that if a casino gives an unconditional bonus it will harm the casino from scammers who will abuse the bonuses provided by the casino.

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