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August 07, 2023, 11:57:28 PM
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With the global economic recession on the cards, GOLD is the only option left for the countries to safeguard their assets. USD also faces drawbacks and challenges. Governments are decreasing their dependence on USD and looking to trade in their currencies. This will have an impact on the dollar's monopoly. Looking at USA's recent banking crisis, which is far from over, one thing is self-evident, US rule is coming to an end in the near future.

BRICS is about to launch its currency for trading and Arabs are doing trade agreements in Yuan along with India and Russia, things are looking ugly for USD, especially "petrodollars".  A few countries started to increase their reserves of Yuan and are dumping dollars. Global power dynamics are about to change. A new world order is approaching, and I think China will be at the center of this.
I have a picture of the story being extreme but actually what's going on is not strong enough for us to see a new order, actually the story of war is something that no one wants but it's also hard to understand. avoid. Hopefully it won't lead to major disasters. There are views that I have heard about countries that are introducing measures to reduce their dependence on the USD and seeking to diversify their national financial systems. Replacing the USD as an international currency is a complex process and requires stability, reliability, and the support of many stakeholders. Therefore, when assessing global financial trends, it is important to understand and monitor international economic, political and financial situations to gain insight and make informed investment decisions bright.


I believe that if the scenario of a new world order is possible perhaps not as soon as some thought, but it is a matter of keeping it in mind...the United States has recently seen itself in a decadent situation, an environment that in one way or another has benefited its opponents, especially China, which has used its influences and strategies to increase its power as a power, so I Think that Soon the reign of the United States will go to the background, or well that's what I Think... but there is something that still keeps me intrigued, the monetary war between the Usd and the Yuan is being noticed as a new alternative to carry out commercial exchange,  but and if none of these currencies are the ones that will establish the new world order and rather bitcoin will do so, none of these centralized assets show the potential to lead and counteract inflation, which little by little is plaguing every corner of the world, bitcoin is the only one that can reduce this impact, despite its volatility it has generated good results, What would happen if, in addition to considering it as a reserve apart from gold, they used it for trade between nations?,what would happen to the world in In this case? Could the countries regain stability as time goes by?
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August 08, 2023, 05:30:44 AM
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I believe that if the scenario of a new world order is possible perhaps not as soon as some thought, but it is a matter of keeping it in mind...the United States has recently seen itself in a decadent situation, an environment that in one way or another has benefited its opponents, especially China, which has used its influences and strategies to increase its power as a power, so I Think that Soon the reign of the United States will go to the background, or well that's what I Think... but there is something that still keeps me intrigued, the monetary war between the Usd and the Yuan is being noticed as a new alternative to carry out commercial exchange,  but and if none of these currencies are the ones that will establish the new world order and rather bitcoin will do so, none of these centralized assets show the potential to lead and counteract inflation, which little by little is plaguing every corner of the world, bitcoin is the only one that can reduce this impact, despite its volatility it has generated good results, What would happen if, in addition to considering it as a reserve apart from gold, they used it for trade between nations?,what would happen to the world in In this case? Could the countries regain stability as time goes by?
The concept of a new world order and all this talk of USD, Yuan, and Bitcoin! Spins my mind around. However, here is what I have for you. Yes, the U.S. is in a precarious position, but don't you think it's a bit premature to declare that they'll lose their dominance? China may possess some power, but China is not the only business in town

But then there's Bitcoin. You assert that Bitcoin could lead the world, but didn't it once crash? Twice? In addition, it oscillates like a yo-yo. How can such a factor stabilize the situation? Comparable to attempting to construct a house on a seesaw. However, gold is shiny, but you can't purchase a cup of coffee with it, so who knows? Perhaps one day we will all purchase hamburgers with digital currency. Or perhaps not

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August 08, 2023, 08:38:13 AM
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I believe that if the scenario of a new world order is possible perhaps not as soon as some thought, but it is a matter of keeping it in mind...the United States has recently seen itself in a decadent situation, an environment that in one way or another has benefited its opponents, especially China, which has used its influences and strategies to increase its power as a power, so I Think that Soon the reign of the United States will go to the background, or well that's what I Think... but there is something that still keeps me intrigued, the monetary war between the Usd and the Yuan is being noticed as a new alternative to carry out commercial exchange,  but and if none of these currencies are the ones that will establish the new world order and rather bitcoin will do so, none of these centralized assets show the potential to lead and counteract inflation, which little by little is plaguing every corner of the world, bitcoin is the only one that can reduce this impact, despite its volatility it has generated good results, What would happen if, in addition to considering it as a reserve apart from gold, they used it for trade between nations?,what would happen to the world in In this case? Could the countries regain stability as time goes by?
The concept of a new world order and all this talk of USD, Yuan, and Bitcoin! Spins my mind around. However, here is what I have for you. Yes, the U.S. is in a precarious position, but don't you think it's a bit premature to declare that they'll lose their dominance? China may possess some power, but China is not the only business in town

But then there's Bitcoin. You assert that Bitcoin could lead the world, but didn't it once crash? Twice? In addition, it oscillates like a yo-yo. How can such a factor stabilize the situation? Comparable to attempting to construct a house on a seesaw. However, gold is shiny, but you can't purchase a cup of coffee with it, so who knows? Perhaps one day we will all purchase hamburgers with digital currency. Or perhaps not

I agree with you. It's true China has been growing consistently but America's history has pulled a lot of partners that keeps them steady with their dominance in the market and economy.

As for Bitcoin leading the world, it seems unlikely as many countries will surely not accept it, at least their government.

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August 08, 2023, 11:23:34 AM
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But in my opinion, even though America hasn't won anything, America and NATO are still considered a great power and capable of intimidating other countries.
Of course the superpowers don't just become weak overnight. It takes many years. For example USSR was a superpower and had many nukes and yet it took WWII (highest casualties) and cold war to break it apart.
Same with US. For example 20 years ago when Bush decided that America should declare war against 7 countries because they had a lot of natural resources, the US national debt was only about $5 trillion. Today that debt has grown to more than $32 trillion. That's what spending roughly $10 trillion in a pointless bloodshed with nothing to show for it does to a country.

I never thought this far. But according to the global conspiracy, America is overshadowed by a greater power, they are the owners of capital (maybe there is blackrock in it). Maybe if America doesn't support them anymore and doesn't have good power, the global capitalist elite will leave America and move to China, because China has good power. But I'm not sure because China adheres to the ideology of communism and is against the interests of global elites.

What about the illuminati? do you have analysis up to them?
Although some of such theories are interesting to read but I tend to not get into them too much since many of them are outright nonsense and some in my opinion are propaganda meaning they take some facts and twist them turning it into "conspiracy theory" so that if someone heard the facts alone they only remember the twisted version and discard the facts as conspiracy theory.
FWIW lets just say there is some links between Zionists and United States and we can see simultaneous weakening of US and the Zionist regime in Israel with the nonstop massive protests in the past ~8 months, reverse migration of the occupiers, military falling apart, etc. (also related to the possible war I mentioned in Lebanon and Syria); meanwhile the Zionist have also been moving toward China in the recent years...

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For example 20 years ago when Bush decided that America should declare war against 7 countries because they had a lot of natural resources


Hmm... I apologize if this is the way it is in your community. BUT, UH.

Do you really think that the speech of retired General Wesley Clark is synonymous with the phrase "Bush decided that America should declare war on 7 countries because they have a lot of natural resources"? ?  Are you serious? Did you even listen to that speech fully and carefully ?
Where is the link to Bush's OFFICIAL statement or speech ? What does Wesley Clark's speech have to do with completely different issues and events ?
? Or did I not notice that Bush stood behind Wesley Clark and discreetly said into the microphone "America should declare war on 7 countries because they have a lot of natural resources" ? ?  Grin

Please - either correct the post, or try to logically get out of this situation and prove that the speech of General Wesley Clark is an exact copy of Bush's order "America must declare war on 7 countries because they have a lot of natural resources".
Third option - you habitually lie and manipulate information, hoping that no one will check  Grin Grin Grin



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For example 20 years ago when Bush decided that America should declare war against 7 countries because they had a lot of natural resources


Hmm... I apologize if this is the way it is in your community. BUT, UH.

Do you really think that the speech of retired General Wesley Clark is synonymous with the phrase "Bush decided that America should declare war on 7 countries because they have a lot of natural resources"? ?  Are you serious? Did you even listen to that speech fully and carefully ?
Where is the link to Bush's OFFICIAL statement or speech ? What does Wesley Clark's speech have to do with completely different issues and events ?
? Or did I not notice that Bush stood behind Wesley Clark and discreetly said into the microphone "America should declare war on 7 countries because they have a lot of natural resources" ? ?  Grin

Please - either correct the post, or try to logically get out of this situation and prove that the speech of General Wesley Clark is an exact copy of Bush's order "America must declare war on 7 countries because they have a lot of natural resources".
Third option - you habitually lie and manipulate information, hoping that no one will check  Grin Grin Grin

Oh I see DrTroll is employing a new tactic: "please give me the EXACT quote".  Grin Grin That's childish. And what if one word doesn't match? It didn't happen? Even more childish is to expect that the US president will say that in public. But he definitely implied that and the actions which followed prove that. Grown-up people understand this but not you.  Grin
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I understand that the US dollar has been taking a hit, but it's still the worlds reserve currency and quite frankly there's no other fiat that could replace it on the global stage.  The US is still the worlds number one economic super power...that's just the facts. China lies about all of their reporting and the Yuan is surely never going to become the worlds reserve currency, Russia is ran by a mad dictator and they clearly aren't as "advanced" as we once thought...so I just don't see this "new order" coming to fruition.

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Oh I see DrTroll is employing a new tactic: "please give me the EXACT quote".  Grin Grin That's childish. And what if one word doesn't match? It didn't happen? Even more childish is to expect that the US president will say that in public. But he definitely implied that and the actions which followed prove that. Grown-up people understand this but not you.  Grin
Arguing with that user is just exhausting, not to mention that he is always trying to derail the discussions like here which "the reason" was neither the point of my big post nor is the subject of this topic. The point was that US invaded 7 countries that the cost of those pointless wars (among other things) increased the US national debt from about 5 to 32 trillion dollars, one of many reasons why the world is dedollarising. Whether the reason was what I said (which is well known) or not doesn't change this fact...

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The Russian ruble, ranked among the top three most miserable and unstable currencies in the world - a new achievement, one of the "pillars" of BRICS.

The Chinese economy is going through a severe crisis, exacerbated by a natural disaster that is guaranteed to lead to mass starvation. Provided that the raw materials appendage and servant of China, Russia is also trying to break the grain market.
Speaking of China and grain. An amazing coincidence - in 2020/2021 China has purchased enough grain to supply the Chinese population for about 6-9 months. Before February 2022. Don't you think that's strange? It seems that some petty international criminal from the Kremlin, promised his master - in half a year to seize Ukraine and get access to the largest reserves and farmland, which would start and work for Russia and China. Expectedly deceived. Now China is in such a position, thanks to its raw material appendage - Russia....

Tell me - does anyone seriously believe that this union of unfortunates can produce a replacement for the dollar ?  Grin





Oh I see DrTroll is employing a new tactic: "please give me the EXACT quote".  Grin Grin That's childish. And what if one word doesn't match? It didn't happen? Even more childish is to expect that the US president will say that in public. But he definitely implied that and the actions which followed prove that. Grown-up people understand this but not you.  Grin

Very funny  Grin Grin Grin Grin
The fun is special in what - it tells me an infantile creature who asks for every word - a document, signed and stamped, and on any statement, even at the level of 2+2=4 !
And here he himself could not answer such a request, once again shitting himself, and decided with such a "wise answer" to heroically withdraw from the dialog Smiley Come on, kid, come on in, there are grown up and smart uncles talking here. Not your audience yet   Grin


Arguing with that user is just exhausting, not to mention that he is always trying to derail the discussions like here which "the reason" was neither the point of my big post nor is the subject of this topic. The point was that US invaded 7 countries that the cost of those pointless wars (among other things) increased the US national debt from about 5 to 32 trillion dollars, one of many reasons why the world is dedollarising. Whether the reason was what I said (which is well known) or not doesn't change this fact...

Oh, another lover of propaganda and wet fairy tales from rogue countries, afraid of truth and facts : Grin
Yes - arguing with truth and facts is not only tedious but also stupid. But that doesn't stop you Smiley

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I understand that the US dollar has been taking a hit, but it's still the worlds reserve currency and quite frankly there's no other fiat that could replace it on the global stage.  The US is still the worlds number one economic super power...that's just the facts. China lies about all of their reporting and the Yuan is surely never going to become the worlds reserve currency, Russia is ran by a mad dictator and they clearly aren't as "advanced" as we once thought...so I just don't see this "new order" coming to fruition.
The solution may not be in the presence of a currency that can completely replace the dollar. There are several options that can be studied and start working on one of them. The first of these solutions is the diversification of the main currencies, so that other currencies can be used, just as we use the dollar, and this is sufficient to replace the dollar, since no single currency is capable of that on its own. The other proposal is based on modern options such as bitcoin or one of the cbdc currencies.
The most important problem is that the United States will not allow this and is ready to set the world on fire, provided that it loses its position that the dollar's status in the global economy brought it. At the same time, it is inevitable because US foreign policies are characterized by hostility, and this is one of the most important reasons that push countries to reduce the need to use the dollar, waiting for the right time to abandon it completely.
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Financial problems that have an increasingly difficult economy certainly make anyone have to think effectively, it is not the first thing that a lot of money experiences inflation problems, in my opinion the trust of people with fiat that is declining is the main factor and it is time for many countries to try to implement a decentralization system.


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Every country is now in the midst of a financial crisis, due to which the value of the dollar has fallen sharply.  Although economy is not the only battlefield, economy plays a very important role for a country.  This is one of the main reasons why the dollar is falling, causing high inflation in the US as all the unbacked dollars they have printed for so many years are being dumped in the USA.  As every country is in a financial crisis now some countries are dumping the US dollar as a reserve currency. Some countries are thinking of diversifying their reserves and for that some countries are thinking of converting money into gold due to which the value of the dollar continues to dump.  It seems to me that now a world war has started in the country financially.

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On topic:
The Russian ruble, ranked among the top three most miserable and unstable currencies in the world - a new achievement, one of the "pillars" of BRICS.
I'm not surprised I don't see a source mentioned here...  Grin like all your "facts" lame and fake...

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The Chinese economy is going through a severe crisis, exacerbated by a natural disaster that is guaranteed to lead to mass starvation. Provided that the raw materials appendage and servant of China, Russia is also trying to break the grain market.
Speaking of China and grain. An amazing coincidence - in 2020/2021 China has purchased enough grain to supply the Chinese population for about 6-9 months. Before February 2022. Don't you think that's strange? It seems that some petty international criminal from the Kremlin, promised his master - in half a year to seize Ukraine and get access to the largest reserves and farmland, which would start and work for Russia and China. Expectedly deceived. Now China is in such a position, thanks to its raw material appendage - Russia....
I'm sure you possess some top secret insider info or you participated in their meeting in person.  Grin

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Tell me - does anyone seriously believe that this union of unfortunates can produce a replacement for the dollar ?  Grin
I will answer with an image:



Free falling graph of the most powerful currency...  Grin that is some serious success! A picture is worth a thousand words!

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Very funny  Grin Grin Grin Grin
The fun is special in what - it tells me an infantile creature who asks for every word - a document, signed and stamped, and on any statement, even at the level of 2+2=4 !
And here he himself could not answer such a request, once again shitting himself, and decided with such a "wise answer" to heroically withdraw from the dialog Smiley Come on, kid, come on in, there are grown up and smart uncles talking here. Not your audience yet   Grin

But you fail to provide any proof, any source whatsoever. You did try initially but soon understood that you have no real sources/proof and you look like a bozo. I will just leave this here (let the users decide if this doesn't remind them of someone...)  Grin
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Gotcha, DrTroll!  Grin

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Yes - arguing with truth and facts is not only tedious but also stupid. But that doesn't stop you Smiley

Truth and facts!  Grin Truth and facts without sources, zero credibility stuff!
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Preface: This is all untrue - show me the reports and evidence ?  Grin Grin Grin


As always, I'm not surprised that your only argument would be "that's not true because I didn't look for that information. And since I haven't seen it, it's not true."

Yes, the important thing is that the ruble is not just the worst currency. it is among the three worst currencies of DEVELOPING COUNTRIES Grin

https://www.rbc.ru/economics/09/08/2023/64d3adae9a7947c480ca6e1c

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And here's the hysterical snot and spittle, leading Russian propagandist Grin

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I agree with you. It's true China has been growing consistently but America's history has pulled a lot of partners that keeps them steady with their dominance in the market and economy.

As for Bitcoin leading the world, it seems unlikely as many countries will surely not accept it, at least their government.
I just wished African government would just embarrassed Bitcoin and make it as a legal means of trade but the question is what will now happen to our local currency?
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I agree with you. It's true China has been growing consistently but America's history has pulled a lot of partners that keeps them steady with their dominance in the market and economy.

As for Bitcoin leading the world, it seems unlikely as many countries will surely not accept it, at least their government.
I just wished African government would just embarrassed Bitcoin and make it as a legal means of trade but the question is what will now happen to our local currency?

LOL.. embraced, not embarrassed. Big difference.  Grin

So far CAR (Central African Republic) is the only African country that has given any sort of recognition to Bitcoin. Now coming to the national currencies, out of the 50+ African nations, which one is having a strong national currency? Most of the countries are suffering from inflation and their national currencies are very weak. BTW, what is the point in having so many different currencies across the continent? Why can't Africa have a single currency? But that would mean all the 55 member nations of the African Union entering into an agreement on this topic, which will be very difficult to obtain.

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The United States Government and the Federal Reserve might be doing everything on purpose to get a credit downgrade and cause China and the other debt holders to dump U.S. Treasuries. Then they raised interest rates which restricted the supply of U.S. Dollars. Because of restricted supply, its value will go up sooner or later. Probably once the value of the Dollar is high enough, and the value of U.S. Treasuries are low enough, the Federal Reserve turns the money printer on and prints trillions of Dollars to buy all the cheap debt in the market. Cool

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August 23, 2023, 06:23:19 PM
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Tin-foil hats on.

The United States Government and the Federal Reserve might be doing everything on purpose to get a credit downgrade and cause China and the other debt holders to dump U.S. Treasuries. Then they raised interest rates which restricted the supply of U.S. Dollars. Because of restricted supply, its value will go up sooner or later. Probably once the value of the Dollar is high enough, and the value of U.S. Treasuries are low enough, the Federal Reserve turns the money printer on and prints trillions of Dollars to buy all the cheap debt in the market. Cool
They already did do that, the inflation in United States sky rocketed over a year ago which was made worse by all countries dumping the US debt bonds they held; so the FED started increasing the interest rate incrementally to battle the inflation and they could not decrease it as much as they wanted while causing recession.
Now that high interest rate means they also had to pay a ton of interest to those who were bag holding bonds thingies! This is why the US government had a battle to increase the debt ceiling. Because they needed to print a ton of money to pay those interests! They did do that in a month or two by printing nearly a trillion dollar. Guess what that newly printed money does to inflation Smiley

Besides, do you know what this game with interest rates does to the economy? It kills it and the society. People won't be able to pay their debts, whether it is a loan they took to buy a house or send their kids to college or a loan to start a business. Production is slowly dying because of how much it costs inside US soil. Where do they migrate to? LOL.... to China.
This is why US currently has a war with two of its biggest investment companies called BlackRock and MSCI because they are slowly pulling about $15 trillion out of US. Guess their destination? Smiley

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August 23, 2023, 11:00:12 PM
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The way we are seeing it now the dumping of the US dollar is becoming a big thread to make many countries with so many sanctions from the United States to other countries that never want to tolerate there policies. The BRICS countries are already planning to dump the US dollar and soon the value of the dollar is going to fall and there power will be lesser than what we think. The US is a country that has depends so much on oil and the era of oil is already fading out and the BRICS are looking at backing there currency on gold.









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August 24, 2023, 10:55:48 AM
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Today ends the BRICS summit, which takes place in the capital of the PAR Johannesburg on August 22-24. It is attended by the leaders of China, India, Brazil and South Africa, Russia is represented by Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Russian dictator Vladimir Putin did not go to the capital of South Africa because of a warrant issued by the International Criminal Court for his arrest. At the summit, he spoke via video link. There was a lot of speculation about Putin's presence at this summit, but it seems that he was still afraid to come, and the host party did not really want to see him so as not to have problems with the obligation to arrest him.

So far, it is known that the leaders of the BRICS countries have decided to invite Argentina, Egypt, Iran, Ethiopia, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia to become full members of this alliance. But many expected that the decision on the common currency of the BRICS countries would be made at the summit.

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