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January 03, 2023, 04:29:57 PM
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I'm not saying this is what happened, but it's not uncommon for some of the more talented security experts to be compromised themselves. It comes down to that age old debate of security vs convenience, and a lot of the time by human nature we'll pick convenience. Again, not saying that's what happened here. I'm saying it's very easy to get complacent, and make mistakes. For example, I believe Satoshi's email was compromised, despite them being something of a security expert to implement what they did into Bitcoin. Now, I can't remember the specifics so it may have been that Satoshi wasn't at fault, and the company that hosted it was. However, you could argue that's even poor security since they don't own the email, and relied on a third party.

I'm sure some of the details will emerge once they've gotten to the bottom of it, and it's very likely a user error, and not something fundamentally wrong with Bitcoin.
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January 03, 2023, 04:48:36 PM
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For example, I believe Satoshi's email was compromised, despite them being something of a security expert to implement what they did into Bitcoin. Now, I can't remember the specifics so it may have been that Satoshi wasn't at fault, and the company that hosted it was.

That's correct -- he wasn't at fault. The email name expired and somebody else grabbed it and re-registered it.

However, you could argue that's even poor security since they don't own the email, and relied on a third party.

That's true but its also poor form to accept what the new owner would write under his name w/o some sort of PGP signature proof... unless its Luke-Jr's PGP proof I suppose.

Dude seemed to be begging for a security incident like this to happen. I call it karma for using his position to attempt to unilaterally stifle one of the most innovative platforms to ever be built atop Bitcoin.

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January 03, 2023, 05:57:08 PM
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But... these are well known... Do you think that Luke-Jr was not aware of such procedures and he made am amateur mistake...?



For example, I believe Satoshi's email was compromised, despite them being something of a security expert to implement what they did into Bitcoin. Now, I can't remember the specifics so it may have been that Satoshi wasn't at fault, and the company that hosted it was. However, you could argue that's even poor security since they don't own the email, and relied on a third party.

Regarding Satoshi's email, it wasn't his fault. It wasn't even the fault of the email provider. The email address simply expired and someone tenacious enough, which probably followed that email everyday (or maybe someone very, very lucky), found the exact day when the email could be registered again.

It may sound incredible, but I am sure that there are people around the world which pursue such moments, hoping that their victim forgot about -- whatever thing they look for. For example, I remember a post related to prolonging expiry date for bitcoin.org and bitcointalk.org. Don't you think that there are also many malevolent (I mean no pun toward our malevolent Smiley) individuals, which keep counting until these domains expires, eagerly waiting to see if either Cøbra or theymos maybe forgot to pay for the domains and, if such thing would happen, they would quickly buy the domains? Same happened to Satoshi's email, I guess...

About Luke-Jr, maybe he will come up here and describe the situation a bit more, thus we can also understand what really happened...

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January 03, 2023, 06:42:52 PM
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But... these are well known... Do you think that Luke-Jr was not aware of such procedures and he made am amateur mistake...?

I really don't know what was Luke-Jr setup, that's why I still have my doubts that this story is for real.

franky1 has a post in another topic which could be relevant information (if it's correct, which I don't know). There may be that some of the old/original bitcoiners may have a different view on what is cold storage and that wallet may have been exposed to his LAN, which probably got compromised.

Of course, while any minimal security measures were okay 10 years ago, anybody with a sense of reality would know that more and more security is needed with every year passing and every more dollar on the price.

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January 04, 2023, 06:40:08 PM
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"Luke Warm" wallets... can we add that term to the Bitcoin Wiki, please?!

I would've done it but I'm afraid of getting banned from the wiki for spam (besides, Lukejr was the admin who gave me the edit perms in the first place IIRC, so with him distracted, who would give it to me now?  Undecided)

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