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January 10, 2023, 10:28:24 PM
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Well in bear markets it's normal. There is a good sense of understanding about the crypto situation we are in and if you can't separate the bear market and the charts then it's going to be pretty upsetting for sure. I believe that the best thing we need to do would be making sure that we are pretty long term when it comes to bear markets and when it comes to bull markets you could start to read charts again and make a profit like that.

It's just the normal thing to do, in the bear market period it's not easy so you will have to end up with some bad results and that is not weird, and during bull most trades will be profitable anyway so you just look for the best.
You would be needing to adjust yourself on the time you do decide to deal up with crypto space where everything is really that unpredictable, there's no way you could be able to guess up on whats ahead and this what makes this market is truly that hard to deal with.Making yourself aware about on the market that you have stepped your foot in then it would be normal that you should make out adjustments or simply that versatile
for whatever conditions or situations that you might faced on and dont tend to run away from it.Make yourself know that in a market there's a bear and a bull market which these things have their own cycles
and if you arent prepared then you would definitely be screaming and whining for unfortunate things to happen.

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January 10, 2023, 10:30:02 PM
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considers these signals as just some kind of guides, because these signas aren't always accurate, you see with these signals usually they exist just to take advantage of people out there, why do you think someone spending their time creating all these signals all for nothing i'm sure these signal maker are just creating their own liquidity through giving out signals, therefore if these signals don't work like they used to be maybe it is because the signal makers forcing their way through in creating some liquidity which results in bad signal, so basically they give bullish signal for a project that actually is shit just to make their own liquidity even though this just my 2 cents but I think you should always make your financial decision based on your own.

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January 11, 2023, 11:16:00 AM
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signals are always such a bullshit, most of the time, when their signal is right they are just stating the obvious, now these signals are showing its true colour that is they never correct from very beginning, these signals maker just don't have any idea about the future prices, they are just random guessing and if one of them is right they'd call themselves genius.

My view about these signals from the very first day is that if owners of such groups are that much effective in predicting future, then why are they not super rich ? Rather selling their ideas for 10$ per week subscription. You need to be very careful while investing your money, my advice is make decision on your own atleast you will learn something.
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January 11, 2023, 11:22:34 AM
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signals are always such a bullshit, most of the time, when their signal is right they are just stating the obvious, now these signals are showing its true colour that is they never correct from very beginning, these signals maker just don't have any idea about the future prices, they are just random guessing and if one of them is right they'd call themselves genius.

My view about these signals from the very first day is that if owners of such groups are that much effective in predicting future, then why are they not super rich ? Rather selling their ideas for 10$ per week subscription. You need to be very careful while investing your money, my advice is make decision on your own atleast you will learn something.

For sure, those owners of the signal group will say that they will share their knowledge by 100% correctly predicting a trade. They always say that, even though they are just wanting newbies' money. Also, they have a strategy in which they will join those newbie traders in a free channel and post a lot of profit on trades in order to attract them, and anything fancy in order for the newbie to pull out their money in order to gain access to the exclusive channel, which is still useless. 
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January 11, 2023, 12:05:10 PM
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Self analysis is better than signals for trading actually I do not trade using any signals because I suppose the signals do not always give the right signals the threat is high then. thus in the original stage, you can dissect the request and trade with your own experience there's no cover for request understanding and analysis, If you want to trade well in the request. By doing  analysis and specialized analysis, using your sentiments and keeping the operation right you get good profit.
That's true because signals from other people may not necessarily work for us, so at the very least, we have to modify them to use them. But signals from other people make it impossible for us to develop analytical skills because we will depend on other people. In addition, we may not be able to benefit by using signals from other people because we do not know how well their ability to analyze market conditions. Learning analysis from many sources will help us to develop analytical skills that will be useful for us in the future.

Having your own knowledge about technical analysis will be an edge towards the unpredictable market where you don't have to rely on trading signals or the analysis of others. You don't need to wait for their signal as long as you have the kowledge to deal with the market. Relyitrackrything on trading signals can actually increase the chances of losing so you better have your own knowledge about trading. Lots of resources are everywhere nowadays, you only have to be willing and eager to learn.
That's right because by teaching yourself about trading, you can improve your own trading skills, which, of course, can be useful for you in the future. You can also find out what the risks are before you start buying and try to avoid them by using the analysis that you did. You can also minimize the chances of losing too through your analysis because you will find out when it is time to trade and when it is time to exit the market. While if you use trading signals, they only give prices to buy and sell, the market can change as soon as you follow the trading signal, giving you potential losses.



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January 12, 2023, 03:10:09 PM
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It's not moving because that's how it works. Trading signals are not reliable, even if you paid to join those trading signal groups. Learn to trade by yourself, it's more better in the long run, rather than putting your luck on someone else that might be a not real pro trader but just pretending to be one to earn money from your subscriptions.
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January 14, 2023, 12:52:28 PM
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For me, the signals are the things that serve the most to defraud people, when memberships and similar things are charged, it is because they like to take money from those who call themselves traders, nobody has a special formula to win in trade, If we put all the lies they say about the signs into context, we could make a great testament about that, however, I have thought that the groups that are dedicated to signs and charge memberships and monthly fees is because people do not demand that they be something more than to give, that is to say, that they give the analysis of the reason for the signals, and if so, that the members of these groups can learn.

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January 14, 2023, 01:38:11 PM
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For me, the signals are the things that serve the most to defraud people, when memberships and similar things are charged, it is because they like to take money from those who call themselves traders, nobody has a special formula to win in trade, If we put all the lies they say about the signs into context, we could make a great testament about that, however, I have thought that the groups that are dedicated to signs and charge memberships and monthly fees is because people do not demand that they be something more than to give, that is to say, that they give the analysis of the reason for the signals, and if so, that the members of these groups can learn.


I do not believe much on signals and that doesn't mean that signals doesn't work. Signals coming from professional traders work efficiently. The problem we have is that most signals are the products of our individual sentiments summed up by a wiser person using one or more strategies.

But in general the geometry of the crypto market has changed greatly and many working strategies have been invalidated over time. So do not be amazed if many strategies stop working.

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January 14, 2023, 03:33:01 PM
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For me, the signals are the things that serve the most to defraud people, when memberships and similar things are charged, it is because they like to take money from those who call themselves traders, nobody has a special formula to win in trade, If we put all the lies they say about the signs into context, we could make a great testament about that, however, I have thought that the groups that are dedicated to signs and charge memberships and monthly fees is because people do not demand that they be something more than to give, that is to say, that they give the analysis of the reason for the signals, and if so, that the members of these groups can learn.
I agree, that and pump/dump schemes and maybe I would put new tokens that convince a lot of people with bounties as well. People still join bounties of shitty stuff that has absolutely no worth, like why are you even spending your time and effort on bounties that will turn out to be worth zero dollars in the end?

I have seen so many people, literally dozens of people who made zero dollars out of bounties and yet there are still dozens who join the new ones. But when it comes to signals, it is definitely a fake and yet people are still joining even to this day. like it is obvious that we are talking about a scam method, and you joined? Why?

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January 14, 2023, 10:19:47 PM
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~snip~But in general the geometry of the crypto market has changed greatly and many working strategies have been invalidated over time. So do not be amazed if many strategies stop working.

when the market is still in bearish mode there will be no signals that work well, there will be no valid ones because market sentiment cannot be predicted. But when the market is in a bullish mode, many signals will start to appear because the bull market makes several signals work well.



~snip~I have seen so many people, literally dozens of people who made zero dollars out of bounties and yet there are still dozens who join the new ones. But when it comes to signals, it is definitely a fake and yet people are still joining even to this day. like it is obvious that we are talking about a scam method, and you joined? Why?
Deceptive methods camouflaged as signals are the methods scammers use to get a novice interested. Signals are only part of a prediction that will not be very accurate and this is also influenced by market conditions. many are trapped with free signals made by scammers whose goal is only to collect beginners to buy at a certain price and the scammers are waiting for their own profits. Those who join because don't have much trading knowledge and still depend on other people's words and advice.

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January 15, 2023, 12:47:05 AM
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when the market is still in bearish mode there will be no signals that work well, there will be no valid ones because market sentiment cannot be predicted. But when the market is in a bullish mode, many signals will start to appear because the bull market makes several signals work well.
During an extreme bull market, the signals provide resistance areas at a specific point, but the market keeps breaking them and vice versa during bear market. So you can't exactly say that signals work well during bull mode and not in bearish times. Actually they dont work out any of the times. However I'd say they work during a sideways market since here traders sell at resistance and buy at support a lot of times before they loose everything during sudden breakouts in either direction 😁
I take every signal with a grain of salt.
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To remove your problematic action regarding these signals, just one thing doesn't become dependent on the statement of other people regarding your entries because we have a different strategy and by that seems like you are letting those people decide with your position would like to put it in, its good to make an investment with your knowledge at the same time so you can get easily identify the basics if the market movement is on the line with your technical analysis and currently the market price of the coins is unpredictable specially bitcoin because most of the altcoins just follow the movements only.

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January 15, 2023, 01:27:52 PM
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That is indeed how it really works. In fact, you can't expect them like being a good source of information on when to sell and when to buy because, in reality, they are just market assumptions that most scammers do. Don't get yourself disappointed, you already know now and have proven to yourselves that it never works. Apparently, there is no reason to believe these signals but rather make believe of your own assumption because it was the same ending whether it was right or wrong.

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~snip~However I'd say they work during a sideways market since here traders sell at resistance and buy at support a lot of times before they loose everything during sudden breakouts in either direction 😁
I take every signal with a grain of salt.

work at any time with certain rules, because the signal will be present when the market is in good condition. Maybe the signals that work in bearish and bullish modes are only for futures trading, and not for spot trading. Sideways can be a good position, but when there is no volatility and increasing trading volume it will only go the same price, but in a bull market with high volume this can be a good opportunity. scalping methods will be mostly done when the market has fast movements. Buying at support and selling at resistance.
Free signals from some groups need to be researched and analyzed, they just use other people to buy on top.

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work at any time with certain rules, because the signal will be present when the market is in good condition. Maybe the signals that work in bearish and bullish modes are only for futures trading, and not for spot trading. Sideways can be a good position, but when there is no volatility and increasing trading volume it will only go the same price, but in a bull market with high volume this can be a good opportunity. scalping methods will be mostly done when the market has fast movements. Buying at support and selling at resistance.
Free signals from some groups need to be researched and analyzed, they just use other people to buy on top.
Have been habit for all signal channel will publish when market are in good condition and seems not ability entry after coins recommended have reached higher price. I leave with many signal trading due they can't consistency and not really accurate when predicting some coin. I don't think good ideas with future trading signal and many time my entry touched with stop loss.

Scalping is worth method for trading actually for some coin in higher price and need faster moment without become holding in few days later, I checked several altcoin when moving up faster have chance to earn profit about 10% until 20% due how faster we are and not greedy for taking profit above 40%. Not recommended for trader with long term mindset with coin have fast moving up or down because after reach higher price and drop drastically to current price.

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To be frank i dont understand clue of what you are saying, because right now i could not understand you. Because from my observation i believe that if you're emphasizing on the signal of cryptocurrency it would have be understandable from my understanding, but right now you are not specific in what you are analyzing. So i think it's better for you to frame your composition with good narrative.



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I agree, that and pump/dump schemes and maybe I would put new tokens that convince a lot of people with bounties as well. People still join bounties of shitty stuff that has absolutely no worth, like why are you even spending your time and effort on bounties that will turn out to be worth zero dollars in the end?

I have seen so many people, literally dozens of people who made zero dollars out of bounties and yet there are still dozens who join the new ones. But when it comes to signals, it is definitely a fake and yet people are still joining even to this day. like it is obvious that we are talking about a scam method, and you joined? Why?
It is understandable that you may be sceptical of crypto signals, as there are many scams and fraudulent schemes in the market. Some signal providers may charge high membership fees or monthly subscriptions without providing any real value or accurate signals. It is important to be cautious and do your own research when considering using signals for trading. It's also important to note that there is no magic formula for success in trading and that past performance is not indicative of future results.

To have a solid understanding of the market, you must define your own risk tolerance levels before making any trades. It's also worth noting that pump and dump schemes can be detrimental to the market, as they artificially inflate the price of a coin and can lead to losses for traders who buy in at the inflated price. Similarly, new tokens with bounties may also be risky and may not have any real value or potential for growth.

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Have been habit for all signal channel will publish when market are in good condition and seems not ability entry after coins recommended have reached higher price. I leave with many signal trading due they can't consistency and not really accurate when predicting some coin. I don't think good ideas with future trading signal and many time my entry touched with stop loss.

Scalping is worth method for trading actually for some coin in higher price and need faster moment without become holding in few days later, I checked several altcoin when moving up faster have chance to earn profit about 10% until 20% due how faster we are and not greedy for taking profit above 40%. Not recommended for trader with long term mindset with coin have fast moving up or down because after reach higher price and drop drastically to current price.
Its never been accurate plus most of them are bogus.Try to look at now on Binance groups or any other crypto trading groups specially now on a bullish market where lots of gurus or mentors had suddenly popped out
showing off their PNL's basing up on their position and trying out to hook up newbies to subscribe and follow their trades and asking for some sub or group pass fee which is totally bullshit.
Signals arent really precise and it doesnt work most of the time considering this market is really that unpredictable and there's no way that you would really be able to know on where
it would be heading next. Therefore, you should really better make yourself to trade up with your own style and preference and dont rely on other sources.

LOL, that is absolute bullshit, I also saw it on some centralized exchange groups and some crypto discussion groups.
They appeared suddenly when bitcoin started to be bullish and gave their predictions, and more importantly, someone was promoting the signal group they made.
this is because the bull market is starting to appear and many newbies will start to get interested and join their signal group.
They only show off their PNL profits, but not the losses they experience, only as an attraction so they can be followed.

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January 16, 2023, 05:27:06 AM
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It's not moving because that's how it works. Trading signals are not reliable, even if you paid to join those trading signal groups. Learn to trade by yourself, it's more better in the long run, rather than putting your luck on someone else that might be a not real pro trader but just pretending to be one to earn money from your subscriptions.
While people prefer paying for signals for trading, from my perspective i think they objectives towards doing that is directly relying on someone. While it's very obvious that a signal group platform so many of them is not guaranteed or assured that their information is vital. So from my perspective or understanding, it's better for someone to develop it own method of understanding trading.



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January 16, 2023, 05:59:05 AM
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Any good signals ?
Right now many signals don't work how they use to be
Yesrterday shiba signal long was given out from the trading signals channels still not moving.

I understood If there is no pmp but dont have Even the dmps what's going on ?

Traders going mad now depresion is here.

How long we have to wait ? Feels like we going insane crypto Market should function normally always when price High then it will fall immediately down so when we short we get Nice profit.

The question is Will we stay in crypto If it's not working ?
Unlikely we stay.


Paid signers providers made most of their money from their subscribers irrespective of whether those signers work or not, crypto trading is highly risky and the market defies Technical Analysis due to high volatility which most signer providers rely on, the best bet for OP is to sit down and start learning how to trade, there are tons of trading strategies in the internet try and one pick one work on the strategy practice with it using demo until you are consistently making profits thereafter fund your account with small fund and experience real live trading rather than relying on the so-called signer providers.

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