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January 11, 2023, 11:17:39 AM
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So, it is not a free mixing service. Right?

Also, what are the minimum & maximum value that you can mix at one go?
Of course mixing services aren't free. Aside from the fees you'll be charged by miners on transferring coins to be mixed, [banned mixer] gets to charge either a 0.7% to 5% of that other.

Minimum 0.001 BTC + additional 0.00001126 BTC for each output address. In total, for one output address it is 0.00101126 BTC, there are no restrictions on the number of mixed bitcoins, you can get acquainted with this simply by reading the expanded version of the FAQ https://[banned mixer]/en/pages/faq   the mixing fee ranges from 0.7% to 5%
How is this percentage determined if I may.
Is it subject to the volume sent and the congestion of the network respectively or both. Because, after checking on what is stated in the quote for minimum a visit to the FAQ link above, it seems to vary with what Daltonik have stated previously in that quote. It reads 0.001btc minimum and 0.00003234btc per output address, bringing the total to a 0.00103234btc.

If it is a yes on variation, are the values going to be pre-stated because, that could actually remind the user of the service on what is obtainable at any moment in trying to use the service.

Also, congrats on relaunch. Despite the little set back by the hoody guys with keyboards, the project is back with its relaunch and the Ann thread looks a lot more official now. Nice one on taking suggestions.

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January 11, 2023, 06:29:11 PM
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Minimal amount is 0.001 for 1 output address, 0.002 for 2 and so on.
Service fee and mining fees are separate thing and have nothing to deal with minimal amount Smiley

P.S. mining fees per output address is a dynamic value depends on network load.
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January 14, 2023, 04:17:17 AM
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The Yo!Mix site looks very neat and navigable on first glance and what caught my eye the most is the zero tolerance for logs and all logs being deleted after expiration of the order.
It also shows privacy consciousness that any user willing to partner with Yo!Mix only has to provide a bitcoin address and a password, with no intrusive request for an email address or phone number.

Looking forward to testing becoming available, so the community can chime in and work around detecting any bugs or issues.

P.S. mining fees per output address is a dynamic value depends on network load.
That is correct. Transaction fees depend on the network load and also the outputs and inputs involved as well as the type of address creating the transaction.

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January 14, 2023, 04:42:56 AM
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I don't use yet but I will do it asap when I got the salary.

I have the question?

1. Can I use YoMix with VPN on clearnet browser?.
2. what is Mixing code?, Can I mix without use the code?



3. I've used mixer, I usually did on chipmixer, I don't know how possible if Yomix any feature we can use for free without a fee like chipmixer?

4. is transfer delay will affect our anonymity? the longer the delay, the more anonym we can get?.
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January 14, 2023, 05:37:51 AM
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I have a question, it's been so long since I've used a mixer. I've used mixers that don't have settings about "random amount of transactions" having a toggle on/off button on it.
I'm just curious to know since if you're going to pay for 5% fee and then it's off the booster isn't completely full or close to it. Whilst, if you toggle on for the RAT and even if you pay 1.7% of service fee, the booster is way up and much higher if you pay 5% fee which goes full. Why's that and what does RAT means? I hope that you consider this as a valid question.

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January 14, 2023, 07:31:53 AM
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So, it is not a free mixing service. Right?

Also, what are the minimum & maximum value that you can mix at one go?
There's no mixing services that are free, and you must consider the fees before doing your transactions.
With YoMix, they offer a cheaper fees for their services but the mining fees will always depend on the traffic of the network you are going to use.
Be mindful with the minimum though so your transactions will  proceed, as per latest 0.001 BTC is the minimum and if you experience some problem better to communicate right away with their support to address your concern.
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January 14, 2023, 12:41:29 PM
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I don't use yet but I will do it asap when I got the salary.

I have the question?

1. Can I use YoMix with VPN on clearnet browser?.
2. what is Mixing code?, Can I mix without use the code?

[snip]

3. I've used mixer, I usually did on chipmixer, I don't know how possible if Yomix any feature we can use for free without a fee like chipmixer?

4. is transfer delay will affect our anonymity? the longer the delay, the more anonym we can get?.


1. Can't see why not.
2. Explained in FAQs:
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After first mixing at [banned mixer] you will receive a unique code. With help of this code, we guarantee that you will never receive your own coins from previous transactions. Simply use this code for all your future mixing orders.
3. Mixing comes at a cost. There must be some fees, otherwise the business is not viable. If you ever see a mixing service that it's 100% free - steer clear, they're probably will take your coins or are some sort of honey pot. Maybe with exception of some promotional periods etc.
4. Yes. The greater the delay, the greater the layer of privacy. It'd probably be worth it to put that in FAQs as well.

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January 14, 2023, 12:47:42 PM
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1. Can I use YoMix with VPN on clearnet browser?.
For me it works well both on VPN and non-vpn mode.

2. what is Mixing code?, Can I mix without use the code?
Click on the "?" and you will know by yourself about it.


You should be able to mix without code but its better if you use the code. Better anonymity.
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January 14, 2023, 07:26:01 PM
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4. Yes. The greater the delay, the greater the layer of privacy. It'd probably be worth it to put that in FAQs as well.
Am still having difficulty in understanding how this is an advantage.
I mean, people seek for faster transaction timing and that would be the reason behind setting a delay time to be minimal and almost instant. Perhaps the privilege comes with a higher fee as it is synonymous with bitcoin transactions in accordance with the workload on the network.

Anonymity of address is one of the main reasons why mixing services are highly sort out for and as such, why would I pay more for a faster transaction with less layer of privacy compared to delayed transactions.

Is there anything like layers of privacy?

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January 14, 2023, 11:32:31 PM
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4. Yes. The greater the delay, the greater the layer of privacy. It'd probably be worth it to put that in FAQs as well.
Am still having difficulty in understanding how this is an advantage.
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It's actually simple. Imagine you want to mix say 7.2344 bitcoin. When you do that instantly, the same (or very similar) amount will appear in your other address. So even though there's no direct link between those 2 addresses, anyone analysing blockchain transactions in that period could assume that there could be a connection between the address that just sent out 7.2344 btc and the address that received the same amount a moment later.
So although they won't have any solid proof of that 2 addresses being linked, it would be hard to believe that those 2 transactions with the same, unusual amount are just a coincidence.

The more time passes, the harder it will be to make such connection. And, in this case, it'd be even better to split it between multiple receiving addresses.

So I wouldn't necessarily bother with setting any time delays for commonly occurring amounts such as 0.001 or 0.01 etc. but it's probably useful for any larger or less-common quantities.

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January 15, 2023, 02:27:18 AM
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1. Can I use YoMix with VPN on clearnet browser?.
For me it works well both on VPN and non-vpn mode.
I used changed DNS before, and worked well. And try downloading opera after just to try using VPN and worked well also.

4. Yes. The greater the delay, the greater the layer of privacy. It'd probably be worth it to put that in FAQs as well.
Yomix max 3 days for delay transfer which I think is good for privacy, but how affect it with Service fee?. because when I try to maximum service fee mixing level increase to max, I don't know what is the connection between Transfer delay and service fee, if very crucial what is the better setting?. is we have to max?, like delay for 3 days and fee for 5%?
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Yomix max 3 days for delay transfer which I think is good for privacy, but how affect it with Service fee?. because when I try to maximum service fee mixing level increase to max, I don't know what is the connection between Transfer delay and service fee, if very crucial what is the better setting?. is we have to max?, like delay for 3 days and fee for 5%?

To be honest, I'm not quite sure how the service fee affects the mixing level. If you click "boost" to get the mixing level to the max, changing the fee on the slide bar doesn't seem to have any effect at all. Whereas changing it on the default starting Mixer page increases/decreases the level of mixing.

I've submitted a contact form on the FAQ page asking YoMix to add an explanation regarding service fees in case this thread is not actively monitored.

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January 15, 2023, 03:11:15 PM
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The more time passes, the harder it will be to make such connection. And, in this case, it'd be even better to split it between multiple receiving addresses.
Yeah, this makes sense. At first you got me confused and mixed up on how does the dots connect in a service that is supposed to make that whole process go away but, being an assumption thing, it goes. Although, you could still generate a fresh receiving address to add to your difficulty and elevl of privacy in this theory but still, it doesn't point to anything with just assumptions to go.

To be honest, I'm not quite sure how the service fee affects the mixing level. If you click "boost" to get the mixing level to the max, changing the fee on the slide bar doesn't seem to have any effect at all. Whereas changing it on the default starting Mixer page increases/decreases the level of mixing.
By fees and mixing level I suppose that relates directly with the level of delays. The mixing occurs quite the same and the difference to it remains in the delivery times as per delays. Its just a prioritising of transaction thing based on pre-set delays with the fees to apply.

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January 15, 2023, 04:22:30 PM
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I am not yet using the YoMix but it seems we have some added features in comparison with other available mixers out there. I usually go and use the coins as it is but it seem these days mixers are getting damn crazy popularity. I think I am now understanding the importance of mixing and getting new coins minted for myself. The extra layer of security with the code is good feature and honestly I have not seen it on other platforms. Or may be I am not into the mixing game with full attention. Anyways, if I am gonna use any mixer then it would be YoMix as it's my first actual use case besides just reading the articles about the mixers and how they really work technically. Will surely drop a review about it.
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January 15, 2023, 09:54:03 PM
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I think I am now understanding the importance of mixing and getting new coins minted for myself.
Coins you get after mixing are not newly minted but outputs from transactions not linked to you. To get never before used coins you will need to mine them yourself or buy from a miner.

With Yo!Mix you get coins that can never be linked back to your original address, this is the reason you get a mixing code[1] when mixing, so as not to receive your original funds back in subsequent transactions.

[1] https://[banned mixer]/en/pages/faq

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January 16, 2023, 03:39:08 AM
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I am not yet using the YoMix but it seems we have some added features in comparison with other available mixers out there. I usually go and use the coins as it is but it seem these days mixers are getting damn crazy popularity. I think I am now understanding the importance of mixing and getting new coins minted for myself. The extra layer of security with the code is good feature and honestly I have not seen it on other platforms. Or may be I am not into the mixing game with full attention. Anyways, if I am gonna use any mixer then it would be YoMix as it's my first actual use case besides just reading the articles about the mixers and how they really work technically. Will surely drop a review about it.
Ofcourse,you are right my mate,that the rate at which yo!mix is gaining popularity is alarming,and with such popularity, one can bet that in due time,most people will be using it.The mixers are putting their hands to deck to ensure the product at their hand gain more recognition and more acceptance despite the fact that there are other mixers out there who are also looking for a way to getting the attention of people.Anywhere anyday,if I am to engage in the mixing game as well, ofcourse the yo!mix is my most prefered one.
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January 16, 2023, 05:29:45 AM
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I don't use yet but I will do it asap when I got the salary.

I have the question?

1. Can I use YoMix with VPN on clearnet browser?.
2. what is Mixing code?, Can I mix without use the code?

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3. I've used mixer, I usually did on chipmixer, I don't know how possible if Yomix any feature we can use for free without a fee like chipmixer?

4. is transfer delay will affect our anonymity? the longer the delay, the more anonym we can get?.


1. Can't see why not.

2. Explained in FAQs:

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After first mixing at [banned mixer] you will receive a unique code. With help of this code, we guarantee that you will never receive your own coins from previous transactions. Simply use this code for all your future mixing orders.


3. Mixing comes at a cost. There must be some fees, otherwise the business is not viable. If you ever see a mixing service that it's 100% free - steer clear, they're probably will take your coins or are some sort of honey pot. Maybe with exception of some promotional periods etc.

4. Yes. The greater the delay, the greater the layer of privacy. It'd probably be worth it to put that in FAQs as well.


It would also probably be worth using different amounts of transfer delay to confuse blockchain scanners/analysis, or bad-actors that have been following your Bitcoin activity. Plus using a randomized amount of onchain transaction fees might probably help too, especially if you're using Electrum or other SPV wallets. We can't truly be sure if the node we have connected to is trustworthy.

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January 16, 2023, 07:43:15 PM
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I have gone through the yomix website to be frank, it is a touch of excellence. The UI is unique no wonder the Services rendered by yomix is second to none. I saw a feature which I believe most of the other mixers have not which is  a good edge over other mixer  service and it is  no other than the restore order.


This particular feature on the yomix services would give potential customers and already registered mixers confidence to want to use her services so that when any issues arises, they can be able to restore their order which is a good services point for yomix. This would further build the reliability and credibility of the yomix project.
 Nevertheless, I  also came across a particular place where it is written about minimum amount to mix but there was no amount in value of bitcoin that was written there and if I may ask, does yomix have a minimum amount for mixing? If yes can you please tell so we can know.?

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Recently, I participated in Mixero review campaign, I received bitcoins on my own address and then deposited them on my Binance account, only to discover that the balance was frozen and I was unable to use it until after 24 hours. Binance support did not provide a clear explanation.
Less than a week later, I deposited $80 from the same address that I received bitcoins from Mixero, then i was surprised to find that my account was completely frozen and that I had to contact support. The support team said that they suspected some activity on the account and that the verification process will take a month.
I believe that Binance succeeded in tracing the chain of transfers and recognized that its source is the mixer. I don't know what technology Binance uses to do this.
Is it possible for the same thing to happen to Mixing balance from YoMix? Can these transactions be tracked?
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January 19, 2023, 09:08:50 AM
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Recently, I participated in Mixero review campaign, I received bitcoins on my own address and then deposited them on my Binance account, only to discover that the balance was frozen and I was unable to use it until after 24 hours. Binance support did not provide a clear explanation.
Less than a week later, I deposited $80 from the same address that I received bitcoins from Mixero, then i was surprised to find that my account was completely frozen and that I had to contact support. The support team said that they suspected some activity on the account and that the verification process will take a month.
I believe that Binance succeeded in tracing the chain of transfers and recognized that its source is the mixer. I don't know what technology Binance uses to do this.
Is it possible for the same thing to happen to Mixing balance from YoMix? Can these transactions be tracked?
They have a number of blockchain transaction tracing tools at their disposal, so it's likely that they were able to trace the transactions. The other mistake you did was to reuse the address. If you are privacy conscious, once you reuse an address, the privacy level drops, and you made the job so easy for them.

IMO, I think mixing coins should go hand in hand with using a good noncustodial p2p service. Unfortunately, one of my most use p2p service, localcryptos is shutdown their business. I don't see the point of mixing coins then sending them to a centralized exchange.

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