[ANN] [banned mixer] | Best Bitcoin Mixer | Low fees | Fully automated

[Sarah Azhari]

We share 50% of our income if mixing order created with using your referral link.

It means, if I used my own referral link such as my own address (in registered) to a mixer, I can't get the commission, right?
So how do you know if someone cheats it by sending it to another address first before mixing it?

for example: https://[banned mixer]/_/stefan-marquardt ,

A unique identifier should make you anonymous too. It would be a bad thing if somebody links your address from your shortened link and identify your forum/personal name, or whatever personal data you used for your short link. A random string is better IMO. Sure you will share it on the forum/internet anyway but there is still an additional layer of privacy if you use a randomized string instead of a username/something similar.

Right now I try used short links for just to easy remembered it, I guess it does not show up my privacy if I shared it to my Instagram and Twitter

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[martyns]

Low fee is just for marketing purposes for now, it may increase in the near future. We have a lot of obfuscation inside about what i'll not going to tell here because of privacy purposes.

That would definitely help me sleep better knowing we are getting the highest level of obfuscation and the history of the inputs cannot be tracked. I do not mind higher fees, if it is still within a reasonable range and proportionate to the level of service.

In the future mixers will play a major role in how we transact online.

Mixers already play a major role in how we transact through crypto and would only get more popular and significant in online transactions.

- Jay -

I am very pleased with the way You!mix  have moved to another height because despite the fact that there is severe competition in the market,Yo!mix is still paving way to be very outstanding.I am already a witness to the role that the mixer have played in how crypto transactions are made and done,and we also believe that in future,the mixer will will be very crucial in the role they will play in online transactions.
As long as this mixer is still within a reachable range,and within an affordable price,it will be purchased allover.

[Saisher]

Low fee is just for marketing purposes for now, it may increase in the near future. We have a lot of obfuscation inside about what i'll not going to tell here because of privacy purposes.

Its understandable you have to start on something that will attract mixer users when you are starting out in this business, and you did the right thing by offering lower fees and launching a marketing campaign, I'm sure your users will understand but it's much better if it's slightly lower than those fully established mixer.
But as long as you keep your reputation clean and very active here you can build loyal users, it's a long way but since you started right you just need to keep up.

[nioctib_100]

@Yomix, DDOS-guard doesn't relay the entire website, right? Otherwise, that could open the site up to an MITM attack, that's why mixers don't use Cloudflare or similar protection. I'm not too familiar with DDOS-guard specifically, though, so the answer I'm hoping is that they only "vet" traffic as it first enters but then can't see or track any of the mixing that takes place on the site.

I want to put it out there that I don't want to be critical in a bad way, and I know I've given feedback a few times that is a bit constructive. I believe any honest attempt at a new mixer is good for the space, and I used Yomix once already with satisfactory results. I just worry that a lot of the feedback in here is people who are sort of just shilling the site and only saying positive things to keep up with the signature campaign. I think the Yomix founders would agree that honest feedback, delivered in a non-critical way, is what they need from all of us.

[Sarah Azhari]

I'm sure your users will understand but it's much better if it's slightly lower than those fully established mixer.

I know what you mean, In fact, is true, users all over the world will choose the mixer with lower fees and trust. It's the same as the exchange with the lowest fee is more interesting to be chosen when compared to the old trusted exchange, but has the highest fee. However, maybe a bit different when compared with a mixer, because there aren't many people around the world doesn't care about the privacy, they are reluctant to use mixer even is very important to hide his wealth.

[YoMix]

@Yomix, DDOS-guard doesn't relay the entire website, right? Otherwise, that could open the site up to an MITM attack, that's why mixers don't use Cloudflare or similar protection. I'm not too familiar with DDOS-guard specifically, though, so the answer I'm hoping is that they only "vet" traffic as it first enters but then can't see or track any of the mixing that takes place on the site.

I want to put it out there that I don't want to be critical in a bad way, and I know I've given feedback a few times that is a bit constructive. I believe any honest attempt at a new mixer is good for the space, and I used Yomix once already with satisfactory results. I just worry that a lot of the feedback in here is people who are sort of just shilling the site and only saying positive things to keep up with the signature campaign. I think the Yomix founders would agree that honest feedback, delivered in a non-critical way, is what they need from all of us.

For privacy purposes we always recommend to use TOR, clearnet can't be considered as safe w/ or w/o using ddos-guard/etc. As our site under DDOS 24/7 for last month for some reason (usually, if ddos fails it stops) we've been forced to use some protection like ddos-guard from the beginning.
We're already preparing our own L7 antiddos as ddos-guard is not so good in protecting our service (up to 60% of bad requests are still reaching origin), i think we'll need about a month or less to stop using it. But even w/o ddos-guard we'll strongly recommend to use TOR.
Thanks for your feedback!

[nioctib_100]

We're already preparing our own L7 antiddos as ddos-guard is not so good in protecting our service

That'd be quite revolutionary to have a clearnet mixer that has its own DDOS protection and does not need to rely on DDOS-guard or Cloudflare. Probably no easy task at all, but if you all can get that accomplished, that will really stand out.

[Sarah Azhari]

For privacy purposes we always recommend to use TOR, clearnet can't be considered as safe w/ or w/o using ddos-guard/etc.

If it's very recommended, better to put that link on our signature also like other companies. ( I just saw that onion link on full member signature only).

I ever use TOR, and maybe if the user wants to use that onion link, better to have high bandwidth internet because when I tried in past, it was so slow if only have a 1-3 Mbps hotspot from the phone.

[Flexystar]

For privacy purposes we always recommend to use TOR, clearnet can't be considered as safe w/ or w/o using ddos-guard/etc.

If it's very recommended, better to put that link on our signature also like other companies. ( I just saw that onion link on full member signature only).

I ever use TOR, and maybe if the user wants to use that onion link, better to have high bandwidth internet because when I tried in past, it was so slow if only have a 1-3 Mbps hotspot from the phone.

Just asking question out of the blues, why we need privacy based browsers when we use mixing services or it is just an optional way to add more privacy to our transactions?

I am just trying to understand the principle behind the same because if I know one thing, if I am using lets say YoMix for minting entirely new coins from my old one's then I am trying to rely on the service for my privacy only. The question is why would I need TOR like browser to use such service if they are already providing what I am seeking.

It could be dumb question for which I would be happy to get answered, considering my curiosity for the same.

If it's very recommended, better to put that link on our signature also like other companies. ( I just saw that onion link on full member signature only).

If using TOR really makes any difference then definitely we should have it either published on the YoMix site as well as have the corner of Signature code updated displaying TOR or relevant browser name for additional security or whatever purpose it may solve.

[nioctib_100]

Just asking question out of the blues, why we need privacy based browsers when we use mixing services or it is just an optional way to add more privacy to our transactions?

I am just trying to understand the principle behind the same because if I know one thing, if I am using lets say YoMix for minting entirely new coins from my old one's then I am trying to rely on the service for my privacy only. The question is why would I need TOR like browser to use such service if they are already providing what I am seeking.

Aside from increased privacy, it's definitely safer to use the Tor site in the sense that you're more protected from hackers/scammers. Clearnet sites are hacked easier, or it's possible you have a malicious extension on your browser that changes addresses when you copy and paste them. That's very unlikely to happen on Tor.

[Sarah Azhari]

If it's very recommended, better to put that link on our signature also like other companies. ( I just saw that onion link on full member signature only).

I ever use TOR, and maybe if the user wants to use that onion link, better to have high bandwidth internet because when I tried in past, it was so slow if only have a 1-3 Mbps hotspot from the phone.

Just asking question out of the blues, why we need privacy based browsers when we use mixing services or it is just an optional way to add more privacy to our transactions?

I was the same question with you on the past, and I find the answer is, yes, we mixing the bitcoin address, but we don't mixing the IP address right?, because on that fact we must use TOR browser for more anonym, mixing the bitcoin address and also mixing the IP with 3 relay IP address. People can't find our bitcoin address transaction, but it would easy find our IP address if use clearnet browser like chrome or firefox.

[joniboini]

Just asking question out of the blues, why we need privacy based browsers when we use mixing services or it is just an optional way to add more privacy to our transactions?

In general, IMO it is a good thing to add a layer of privacy regardless if you're trying to mix or not. If your ISP provider tracks you and logs the websites you visited, it can be a nightmare if those data got leaked and abused by other parties, or even your ISP in general. Such as blocking your access to some websites, an increase in scam e-mails, profiling, etc. On the other side, you can also argue that hiding your real IP address, in general, allows you to keep being trustless in the sense that you don't need to rely on the hope that Yomix or other mixers don't abuse your IP data or something similar. It is a win-win solution.

If using TOR really makes any difference then definitely we should have it either published on the YoMix site as well as have the corner of Signature code updated displaying TOR or relevant browser name for additional security or whatever purpose it may solve.

Nice suggestion. That being said, most users who use service like a mixer is usually well aware of how important privacy for their activity is. So using ToR is usually a requirement for them.

[Flexystar]

Just asking question out of the blues, why we need privacy based browsers when we use mixing services or it is just an optional way to add more privacy to our transactions?

In general, IMO it is a good thing to add a layer of privacy regardless if you're trying to mix or not. If your ISP provider tracks you and logs the websites you visited, it can be a nightmare if those data got leaked and abused by other parties, or even your ISP in general. Such as blocking your access to some websites, an increase in scam e-mails, profiling, etc. On the other side, you can also argue that hiding your real IP address, in general, allows you to keep being trustless in the sense that you don't need to rely on the hope that Yomix or other mixers don't abuse your IP data or something similar. It is a win-win solution.

If using TOR really makes any difference then definitely we should have it either published on the YoMix site as well as have the corner of Signature code updated displaying TOR or relevant browser name for additional security or whatever purpose it may solve.

Nice suggestion. That being said, most users who use service like a mixer is usually well aware of how important privacy for their activity is. So using ToR is usually a requirement for them.

Damn, I did not know that ISP provider can do that. I thought we usually have the confidential agreements while procuring the internet connections. Lolz. I might be having some corporate mix ups here but ISP's should not be doing that.

Imagine on one fine day I am mixing my coins and suddenly my ISP sees the usual activity. Does it mean that they can interfere with the whole process? Like capture my web activity and control it in the middle of process and take the charge? I might sound noob in this regards, because I am not tech guy here and with the increasing internet features, it all takes a phishing attack to lose it all. That's why more concerned about it.

Now that makes me think, why TOR could be safer layer if such activities are open. Before this post I thought, it was only thing of public WiFi, but it seems we are not safe anywhere now.

[jimzzz]

I've been trying to load yomix but it's not working. "Onionsite Not Found - The most likely cause is that the onionsite is offline." I'm quite new to this stuff so I'd like to ask what could cause this type of things? thx

[YoMix]

I've been trying to load yomix but it's not working. "Onionsite Not Found - The most likely cause is that the onionsite is offline." I'm quite new to this stuff so I'd like to ask what could cause this type of things? thx

Yes we're experiencing huge DDOS attack (even DNS got attacked). TOR mirror is working now (may be a bit slow and down sometimes), clearnet is on the way. It doesn't affect mixing in any way, so, even if site is down, all mixing orders will be completed in time and coins will be send. For now, please use only TOR mirror until further updates.
Stay tuned.

Update:
[banned mixer] is working, can be down sometimes, we're working on it, please use TOR instead.

Update2:
Both clearnet and onion work well atm.

[nioctib_100]

I've been trying to load yomix but it's not working. "Onionsite Not Found - The most likely cause is that the onionsite is offline." I'm quite new to this stuff so I'd like to ask what could cause this type of things? thx

The TOR site is properly online for me at the moment, so seems fixed.

[logfiles]

I've been trying to load yomix but it's not working. "Onionsite Not Found - The most likely cause is that the onionsite is offline." I'm quite new to this stuff so I'd like to ask what could cause this type of things? thx

It seems to have been a coordinated DDoS attack on some services, perhaps Bitcoin mixers. There was a similar case reported on another thread just a day before your complaint here.

The Good news is that both clearnet and onion site are now work, though DDoS guard was triggered on my computer even when I was not using any VPN service. On mobile, no DDoS guard was triggered.

[Flexystar]

Good to see YoMix has DDoS protection enabled. Everytime I enter to the site it's doing it's job so we all know we are protected.

So it's understandable that site gonna have downtime now and then considering our safety and more important our funds!

By the I am still wondering why would I want to Delay my order and how does it affect the mixing process? I got the hint about Service fees, the more it is the more stricter mixing would be.

However, what does Time Delay contribute into this? Does increasing the time would get me far more mixed / fresh coins and is it vice versa if I just want my order quickly executed. What is coding strategy behind this one!



FYI: The UI is very easy and friendly. Specially for the people who wants to use mixers all the time. It's quick, and very handy.

[Saisher]

Good to see YoMix has DDoS protection enabled. Everytime I enter to the site it's doing it's job so we all know we are protected.

Businesses like Mixing should be ready for this, DDOS can happen, because there is money on it they will do denial of service for many reasons I'm sure [banned mixer] started to build its reputation in this industry and will spend to combat this DDOS, there will be more of this in the future until they found it futile to do DDOS against [banned mixer]

FYI: The UI is very easy and friendly. Specially for the people who wants to use mixers all the time. It's quick, and very handy.

This is very important because mixing is something not all people are aware of and they need something that will clearly explain its benefits when doing transactions.

[nioctib_100]

However, what does Time Delay contribute into this? Does increasing the time would get me far more mixed / fresh coins and is it vice versa if I just want my order quickly executed.

The longer the time delay, the harder it is for a blockchain analyst to trace your mixing, so yes, you do get "more mixed" with a longer time delay. For best practices, you should vary your time delay between all transactions to something long but relatively random. If you want it quickly executed, you should stick to some sort of whole-number, like .10BTC or .5 BTC. If you mix something random and specific on a short time delay, like .3821851 BTC on a 30 minute delay, that would be pretty easy to track through the mixing process. Something like .3BTC on a 30 minute delay would be much harder since there are dozens of people sending .3BTC in any given hour, but only one sending your very specific amount of .3821851 BTC.