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[Husna QA]

This means Tor or No Tor it doesn’t matter when the codes generated. You can just use any type of browser and still safe about it.

Even if you use a browser other than Tor, at least use a private/incognito window so that when you access the Yo!Mix website, all your activities, including the mixing code-generated session, can be more private and not stored in the browser history, but that does not make you anonymous.

Unlike the Tor browser, which provides more features, such as disguising the user's IP address so that it is not easily tracked.

Okay, that's what I thought. So, I think it's better to use this mixer without mixing code because it's a popular mixer with high mixing volume I assume. If the volume is high, then the chances of getting my coins back should be very low or the time when I receive my coins back, they will already be clean.

In the "Your Mixing Order" session, you cannot delete the Mixing code listed there, so you have to use it, whether it's new code or code that has been generated before.

[logfiles]

Okay, that's what I thought. So, I think it's better to use this mixer without mixing code because it's a popular mixer with high mixing volume I assume. If the volume is high, then the chances of getting my coins back should be very low or the time when I receive my coins back, they will already be clean.

Small Bitcoin volumes, yes, but this is a very different opinion from someone looking to mix 10 or 50 BTC each week or month 

[Synchronice]

In the "Your Mixing Order" session, you cannot delete the Mixing code listed there, so you have to use it, whether it's new code or code that has been generated before.

I believe I don't have to use that code and it absolutely depends on my free will.

Okay, that's what I thought. So, I think it's better to use this mixer without mixing code because it's a popular mixer with high mixing volume I assume. If the volume is high, then the chances of getting my coins back should be very low or the time when I receive my coins back, they will already be clean.

Small Bitcoin volumes, yes, but this is a very different opinion from someone looking to mix 10 or 50 BTC each week or month 

Personally, I don't know how mixers manage their wallets to offer anonymous service and it will be very interesting if someone, at least briefly explains the case. Mixers should be doing coinjoin inside the system to refresh received coins, they also need to move funds between different addresses. Operating of mixer safely to protect your and users privacy shouldn't be an easy process.

[Gladitorcomeback]

Even if you use a browser other than Tor, at least use a private/incognito window so that when you access the Yo!Mix website, all your activities, including the mixing code-generated session, can be more private and not stored in the browser history, but that does not make you anonymous.

Unlike the Tor browser, which provides more features, such as disguising the user's IP address so that it is not easily tracked.

its mean we should always use fo Tor browser for mix btc to hide our IP and our browsing history. In most of the browser I notice that there is " Incognito Tab " where history not saving. If we use this, will it will be safe to use Yomix swap or still there is possibility of leaking information?

[Husna QA]

In the "Your Mixing Order" session, you cannot delete the Mixing code listed there, so you have to use it, whether it's new code or code that has been generated before.

I believe I don't have to use that code and it absolutely depends on my free will.

But there is no option not to use the mixing code that appears when you use the Yo!Mix service. An option still possible is using a new code every time you transact there.

/en/pages/faq]
What mixing code is?

After first mixing at [banned mixer] you will receive a unique code. With help of this code, we guarantee that you will never receive your own coins from previous transactions. Simply use this code for all your future mixing orders.

its mean we should always use fo Tor browser for mix btc to hide our IP and our browsing history.

You don't always have to use the Tor Browser, but if you want more privacy, at least Tor Browser currently has that feature compared to other browsers (https://tb-manual.torproject.org/about/).

In most of the browser I notice that there is " Incognito Tab " where history not saving. If we use this, will it will be safe to use Yomix swap or still there is possibility of leaking information?

You can read more about it at the following link:
https://nordvpn.com/blog/incognito-mode-not-as-private-as-you-think/

[Synchronice]

In the "Your Mixing Order" session, you cannot delete the Mixing code listed there, so you have to use it, whether it's new code or code that has been generated before.

I believe I don't have to use that code and it absolutely depends on my free will.

But there is no option not to use the mixing code that appears when you use the Yo!Mix service. An option still possible is using a new code every time you transact there.

/en/pages/faq]
What mixing code is?

After first mixing at [banned mixer] you will receive a unique code. With help of this code, we guarantee that you will never receive your own coins from previous transactions. Simply use this code for all your future mixing orders.

Okay, let me clarify this thing.
You said that I have to use code, I underlined it in your quote. You have to means that I must do, I'm forced to use that code and all I said is that I'm not forced and it absolutely depends on me whether I use that code or not.
There is an option to not use the mixing code, simply leave the field empty.
We probably misunderstood each-other 

[Husna QA]

Okay, let me clarify this thing.
You said that I have to use code, I underlined it in your quote. You have to means that I must do, I'm forced to use that code and all I said is that I'm not forced and it absolutely depends on me whether I use that code or not.
There is an option to not use the mixing code, simply leave the field empty.

On the start page or the first time you use Yo!Mix, you can still leave the empty code;



But when you proceed to the next step on 'Your Mixing Order' as I mentioned here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432724.msg62675758#msg62675758
The mixing code is automatically filled, and you can't delete it.



Please try to prove it.

[Synchronice]

But when you proceed to the next step on 'Your Mixing Order' as I mentioned here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432724.msg62675758#msg62675758
The mixing code is automatically filled, and you can't delete it.



Please try to prove it.

That code is unique for each mixing session where you left the Mixing Code field empty.
When you start a new mixing session, you get mixing code, like you got ein6nqjgenl. Let's assume you finished the mixing session. Now open a new tab and you want to mix coins. You are free to leave the Mixing Code empty. If you leave it empty, then new Mixing Code will be generated but that means absolutely nothing we I don't use it, so, you are not forced to use mixing code. If you were forced to do, then you wouldn't be able to leave Mixing Code field empty on your every next session.

[Mr.right85]

Okay, that's what I thought. So, I think it's better to use this mixer without mixing code because it's a popular mixer with high mixing volume I assume. If the volume is high, then the chances of getting my coins back should be very low or the time when I receive my coins back, they will already be clean.

Small Bitcoin volumes, yes, but this is a very different opinion from someone looking to mix 10 or 50 BTC each week or month 

Personally, I don't know how mixers manage their wallets to offer anonymous service and it will be very interesting if someone, at least briefly explains the case. Mixers should be doing coinjoin inside the system to refresh received coins, they also need to move funds between different addresses. Operating of mixer safely to protect your and users privacy shouldn't be an easy process.

It probably isn’t an easy process as you already sense given the fact that, mixers don’t hold users coins more than the network congestion would allow and the time frame set to process certain transactions either it’s set at a fast pace or reduced fee to extend mixing time but in most cases, it’s usually within minutes.
Hence, they’ve got to have a lot of holdings of there own to do the mixing in between addresses as well. Just trying to understand but, it would take a lot of automated process that guarantees customers safety and gains there confidence.

When you say, chances of getting larger volumes initiated for mixing is slim,
Are you in anyway referring to the possibility of mixers having to do away with your funds because it’s worth ending there services for?

[blue Snow]

I don't know if this captcha is for a user TOR only, but for a site that manages user funds is a good step for security. and, sometimes I have to do it twice because got a wrong answer, but I feel there is no fault I did before. I don't know if this is a TOR connection problem, or the captcha. But so far, I don't have a problem with the mixer as long as I use it.

[Learn Bitcoin]

I don't know if this captcha is for a user TOR only, but for a site that manages user funds is a good step for security. and, sometimes I have to do it twice because got a wrong answer, but I feel there is no fault I did before. I don't know if this is a TOR connection problem, or the captcha. But so far, I don't have a problem with the mixer as long as I use it.

I am not a big fan of TOR as I cannot use a fast internet connection. TOR slows it down further, so I am unsure if it's the same with the TOR. But I just tried the clearnet domain, which is [banned mixer], and everything is so smooth. I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.

I remember when I used a VPN, even Google asked me to verify the re-captcha to show the search results. I don't know the exact reason, but as they say, Your computer sends too many requests or something. I have been using a paid VPN for the last few months and haven't seen re-captcha since then (for Google search).

[logfiles]

I don't know if this captcha is for a user TOR only, but for a site that manages user funds is a good step for security. and, sometimes I have to do it twice because got a wrong answer, but I feel there is no fault I did before. I don't know if this is a TOR connection problem, or the captcha. But so far, I don't have a problem with the mixer as long as I use it.

Sometimes it's easy to miss other numbers in the captcha box because they are written in different colours so you have to be very keen especially if you have some colour blindness disorder.

I tried to recreate the same issue on Tor with 5 random orders, but I didn't get any issue solving the captcha on the first attempt. The captcha is definitely put there to avoid things like DDoS attacks, which are rampant on Bitcoin mixers lately.

[blue Snow]

Sometimes it's easy to miss other numbers in the captcha box because they are written in different colours so you have to be very keen especially if you have some colour blindness disorder.

It's possible that one of the color numbers is blurry, so in this case, I can't read it correctly. Maybe this could be a serious problem for those who have a color-blind.

I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.

Yes, maybe true what you said, That looks like random because when I tried to use it back with TOR today, the site didn't ask me for a captcha again. maybe this depends on the TOR relay, Maybe the other day I got a relay where the location have a lot of traffic.

[examplens]

I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.

Yes, maybe true what you said, That looks like random because when I tried to use it back with TOR today, the site didn't ask me for a captcha again. maybe this depends on the TOR relay, Maybe the other day I got a relay where the location have a lot of traffic.

Captcha is not random but depends on several situations. Like, are you coming from a new IP address, Has the IP address you are currently using already accessed that site, Are you as a user already solving a captcha from the same provider (it may even be a completely different website)
That's why it can happen that sometimes it's enough to just click on the captcha field, and sometimes it's enough to go through a complete verification.

[Learn Bitcoin]

I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.

Yes, maybe true what you said, That looks like random because when I tried to use it back with TOR today, the site didn't ask me for a captcha again. maybe this depends on the TOR relay, Maybe the other day I got a relay where the location have a lot of traffic.

Captcha is not random but depends on several situations. Like, are you coming from a new IP address, Has the IP address you are currently using already accessed that site, Are you as a user already solving a captcha from the same provider (it may even be a completely different website)
That's why it can happen that sometimes it's enough to just click on the captcha field, and sometimes it's enough to go through a complete verification.

In my case, most of the time, it happens if I use free VPNs. Even If I try to access the google.com home page, it asks for a captcha verification. Sometimes even it does not let me verify the captcha saying my computer sending too many requests. Which I believe is because of the free VPN I use. Possibly a large number of users using same IP address to access google at that time.

So I agree that the same thing may applied to other website as well. Sometimes solving captcha is frustrating because even if I select the right image, it asks me to verify again and it happens multiple times.

[logfiles]

In my case, most of the time, it happens if I use free VPNs. Even If I try to access the google.com home page, it asks for a captcha verification. Sometimes even it does not let me verify the captcha saying my computer sending too many requests.

Probably because the attackers mostly use those free VPN services and Tor to attack the websites. So those IP addresses get blacklisted by Cloudflare or any other DDoS protection service. No, when you decide to use the same VPN to access such a site, you are instantly taken to a checkpoint.

I noticed this when use my Opera browser with the free VPN turned on. Almost every Cloudflare protected site hates the Opera VPN mode, with various checks on most websites.

The captcha challenge Yomix uses is actually better, the most annoying is the one of with grainy images of crosswalks, bicycles, traffic lights 

[Learn Bitcoin]

I noticed this when use my Opera browser with the free VPN turned on. Almost every Cloudflare protected site hates the Opera VPN mode, with various checks on most websites.

I have Opera browser installed as well and it keeps asking to make it the default browser. Poor Opera doesn't know I like Edge more since the last update of it. Opera Improved a lot but I didn't It has a built-in VPN in it. I guess I have heard before but did not try. Thanks for the reminder anyway.

The captcha challenge Yomix uses is actually better, the most annoying is the one of with grainy images of crosswalks, bicycles, traffic lights  

Motor cycle, cars and bus suck as well. The frustrating thing is when I keep solving it ask for the next captcha. Supposedly I completed four captcha but in the end it incorrect captcha and I had to do it multiple times. It mostly happens when I try to login into the forum. My ISP never knows when it provides 50mbps speed and when it provides 50kbps speed. Sometimes the captcha does not even load and says cannot connect reCaptcha. LOL.

[Husna QA]

I don't know if this captcha is for a user TOR only, but for a site that manages user funds is a good step for security. and, sometimes I have to do it twice because got a wrong answer, but I feel there is no fault I did before. I don't know if this is a TOR connection problem, or the captcha. But so far, I don't have a problem with the mixer as long as I use it.

I am not a big fan of TOR as I cannot use a fast internet connection. TOR slows it down further, so I am unsure if it's the same with the TOR. But I just tried the clearnet domain, which is [banned mixer], and everything is so smooth. I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.  -snip-

I just tried opening /]https://[banned mixer]/ (Clearnet) using Firefox and /]http://[banned mixer]/ (Tor Domain) using Tor Browser; Captcha appears only on Tor Domain.
Several times, I filled in answers that I was sure were correct but were considered Wrong captcha answers, and on the third time, I was finally able to continue with Mixing Order.

 

I tried creating an order, but it did not ask for a captcha verification. So, either it's only for TOR or random for every user.

Yes, maybe true what you said, That looks like random because when I tried to use it back with TOR today, the site didn't ask me for a captcha again. maybe this depends on the TOR relay, Maybe the other day I got a relay where the location have a lot of traffic.

It may be due to common causes such as the following:

What triggers a CAPTCHA test?

Some web properties just automatically have CAPTCHAs in place as a proactive defense against bots. Other times, a test may be triggered if user behavior seems to resemble a bot's behavior: if users request webpages or click hyperlinks at a far higher rate than average, for instance.

[hugeblack]

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This topic was posted a while ago, which indicates the possibility of hacking central mixing services^[1] because mixing services follow a specific pattern. With deep analysis, you may be able to understand this specific pattern, and then it will be easy for you to know the deposits of all users (their patterns are random) compared to the deposits of the mixing service (coins). Mixer bitcoins which usually follows a systematic approach and accordingly you can link income transactions with output by deducting fees and you will get a list of user addresses before and after mixing.

What I am trying to say here is that I noticed in [banned mixer] withdrawal fees are not chosen by the user. If there was an option to make them available to the user or make them random, it would enhance privacy.

Other than that I didn't find anything, you did a great job especially NO java script version.

[1] Breaking Mixing Services

[YoMix]

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This topic was posted a while ago, which indicates the possibility of hacking central mixing services^[1] because mixing services follow a specific pattern. With deep analysis, you may be able to understand this specific pattern, and then it will be easy for you to know the deposits of all users (their patterns are random) compared to the deposits of the mixing service (coins). Mixer bitcoins which usually follows a systematic approach and accordingly you can link income transactions with output by deducting fees and you will get a list of user addresses before and after mixing.

What I am trying to say here is that I noticed in [banned mixer] withdrawal fees are not chosen by the user. If there was an option to make them available to the user or make them random, it would enhance privacy.

Other than that I didn't find anything, you did a great job especially NO java script version.

[1] Breaking Mixing Services

No javascript site generates random fee every time you reload page, in full version you can manually set it using slider.
Also, we have multitransaction option which totally breaks this problem you mentioned .