I've been hacked (Electrum 4.3.2)

[julerz12]

Come to think of it, I have a question, julerz12.

Why did you make the campaign thread a self-moderated one?

I don't recall any other, apart from those of Royse777, who had good reasons, but you apparently didn't.

Easier to delete spam.
Newbies follow every thread I post and most of the time just automatically post Proof of Authentication posts without even knowing the contents of the thread.

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[Zwei]

You just learned a very expensive lesson @julerz12

The first thing you should do is find out how you got hacked, with that you can at least prove that you didn't steal the money, I'm not saying you did, but having evidence is better than just your words. also so you can protect yourself in the future.
And as many other members said, you can still try and join other signature campaigns if you work hard for a year you can pay the 5k back, an average of $100 per week for 52 weeks is $5200.

[Mpamaegbu]

~snipped~

I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.

Gosh! Come on man. Don't get suicidal, no matter what the situation is. That won't solve anything, instead it will exacerbate the situation for those who care about you. I'm a father too and I can understand this pain of one losing their source of income. Yes, the hurtful words will come in torrents as this is ongoing but you've to grow a thick skin at a time like this by finding a way out. That way out should be centred on repaying the debts to both companies. Nothing else can be a better strategy. We all make mistakes and mistakes they say is a natural human flaw in all.

[Cryptomiles1]

Come to think of it, I have a question, julerz12.

Why did you make the campaign thread a self-moderated one?

I don't recall any other, apart from those of Royse777, who had good reasons, but you apparently didn't.

Easier to delete spam.
Newbies follow every thread I post and most of the time just automatically post Proof of Authentication posts without even knowing the contents of the thread.

This could be some bot accounts, because I don't think reasonable Human Being would just came up posting POA without even reading the contents of the messages.

[jokers10]

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Sucky situation, however keep in mind that you can still offer a service here and participate in campaigns yourself in order to raise enough money so that you can pay back coinomize and YoMix - if you do care about it and if you feel devestated you know it'll be the right thing to do even if it may take a year+.

I plan on doing so. I know it will be a very long and hard road to overcome but I will most definitely try.
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That's IMO the best decision. And as you see you'll even meet support from other forum users on that way. May be someone of reputable even will help with escrowing funds for some of your new campaigns with which you'll get an opportunity to earn money both for your family and repaying lost. I hope and wish all will go better way for you!

[GxSTxV]

I’m very sorry to hear what happened for you and i hope you can refund that money for the owners, in the meanwhile i will say that i truly believe what you said for many reasons. I have been in few campaigns you managed and you where always helpful and trustworthy what happened now will really hurt your reputation unfortunately no matter what, the reason i believe that you truly got hacked is you will earn better money than that if you continue managing campaigns for couples months and without losing customers.
It’s a lesson everyone should learn about where to put and save their assets especially important ones. Lately we have seen enough scams on exchanges

[Bitstar_coin]

Shit happens, even one of the most prominent bitcoin devs, LukeJr got hacked recently and lost ~$3 mil worth of btc
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5432665.0

If someone like this can get hack then I don't understand why some people would think the OP made it up to ruined the rep he has build for years.

I think the only evidence to provide in situations like this is the wallet which the fund was held. I don't know why someone would think the evidence is not enough.
This is really an unfortunate situation and I sincerely hope the good members of this forum would give the OP the opportunity to redeem his rep back by paying for the lost funds.

I just want to say tagging OP red and expect him to pay for lost funds is not going to be easy on him assuming this is his major source where he will gets the most income to pay back.

@julerz12, what happen to you sucks but you should not let it demotivate you, and take comfort from @Hhampuz post, it make a lot of sense. Good luck.

[zasad@]

Electrum is ledger compatible.
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005161925-Set-up-and-use-Electrum?docs=true
I do not believe that julerz12 is a liar, but if, under the terms of the agreement, he was responsible for the deposit, then he must pay damages.

[Coinomize.biz]

There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.

Don't say that! It's just a "little" money and not the end of the world! We will not open a scam accusation because of something like that. Sure it's not great, but it's not the end of the world as I said. The most important thing is that you straighten it out.

[CoinPayCard.net]

There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.

Don't say that! It's just a "little" money and not the end of the world! We will not open a scam accusation because of something like that. Sure it's not great, but it's not the end of the world as I said. The most important thing is that you straighten it out.

Agreed, no money in the world is worth of destroying your life. I understand that in some countries and for some people that 5K is a lot of money, it is, but it's not the end of the world. If you took the money for yourself (not saying you did) you must think about if it's worth it. Sure, 5K is a year of salary in the PH but taking other people's hard earn money is something that morality and for some even religious just wrong no matter the size. It won't give you any satisfaction, and it won't make your life easier.

Saying that, the best steps to take is change every password on any platform you have, install a good virus installer (contact me I would love to provide you with a coupon code for free).

What I personally would do. Disconnect my pc from the internet. Copy any important files (NO PROGRAMS) to a hard drive. Complete reset your pc or even better reinstall windows from scratch.
Only use a Ledger for crypto or even better use Bitgo.

And do your best to make your clients whole, be honest with them how you can repay the damage. Don't make any promised you can't keep, be straight forward, that is the best way to go.

I want to end my message by saying it again: No money in the world is worth of destroying your life, keep your head up because I'm sure that there are a lot of people loving you and willing to help you.

[John Abraham]

I am sorry to hear that, man. This is the dark side of the internet.
Don't get broken. Trust in yourself. Try to recover it and pay them back. Good luck.

[albon]

There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.

Don't say that! It's just a "little" money and not the end of the world! We will not open a scam accusation because of something like that. Sure it's not great, but it's not the end of the world as I said. The most important thing is that you straighten it out.

You really have noble morals, and it is fortunate that we got to know your project through the signature campaign, and I appreciate your generosity you will pay the participants in the [banned mixer] signature campaign for the first week tomorrow. I hope that Julerz will do his best to return the funds to you, even if it is "little" as you mentioned, but it is your right and your money, I feel bad for what happened and I hope you will give the BM time to collect the money that was hacked and return it to you as soon as possible.

Accept my full respect and appreciation for you  

Since the wallet seems to have been hacked by our Bounty Manager @julerz12 (See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433643) we have to pause the signature campaign.

But we will pay everyone their money tomorrow.

[Crypto Library]

After seeing his reputation I don't think he is making any story. Because I do, his reputation will be more than this five thousand dollars. My condolences to julerz12 for this incident. I hope you will not despair and will continue to try to recover. And I think such mistakes will not happen again to you and I think people learn from mistakes Like you already got a big lesson from this incident. And I appreciate your decision to repay the fund.
And I think it is better not to escrow such a large fund if you don't have such a device to protect. It is best to refill the wallet every week.

Don't say that! It's just a "little" money and not the end of the world! We will not open a scam accusation because of something like that. Sure it's not great, but it's not the end of the world as I said. The most important thing is that you straighten it out.

I appreciate your generosity

[julerz12]

There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.

Don't say that! It's just a "little" money and not the end of the world! We will not open a scam accusation because of something like that. Sure it's not great, but it's not the end of the world as I said. The most important thing is that you straighten it out.

Thank you.

Agreed, no money in the world is worth of destroying your life. I understand that in some countries and for some people that 5K is a lot of money, it is, but it's not the end of the world. If you took the money for yourself (not saying you did) you must think about if it's worth it. Sure, 5K is a year of salary in the PH but taking other people's hard earn money is something that morality and for some even religious just wrong no matter the size. It won't give you any satisfaction, and it won't make your life easier.

I totally agree. I'm not* sure if this is worth it but I've held campaign funds equivalent to what was lost today (mostly stablecoins like USDT, USDC) and I have never even think of taking just 1 cent out it. All the funds I escrowed were distributed to all the campaign participants.

Saying that, the best steps to take is change every password on any platform you have, install a good virus installer (contact me I would love to provide you with a coupon code for free).

What I personally would do. Disconnect my pc from the internet. Copy any important files (NO PROGRAMS) to a hard drive. Complete reset your pc or even better reinstall windows from scratch.
Only use a Ledger for crypto or even better use Bitgo.

And do your best to make your clients whole, be honest with them how you can repay the damage. Don't make any promised you can't keep, be straight forward, that is the best way to go.

I want to end my message by saying it again: No money in the world is worth of destroying your life, keep your head up because I'm sure that there are a lot of people loving you and willing to help you.

Thanks for the tips. Yes, I plan on wiping my system and installing new OS, new programs. It's a pain in the @ss to go through all this but it is a necessary security measure. It just suck that I had to learn this the hard way.

I got a motorcyle that I bought 2 years ago which took me also 2 years of pain staking saving just to buy it, I'm gonna sell it so at least I can repay some of the stolen funds. I will update this thread about it very soon.

[Igebotz]

We don't know if OP is telling the truth or not, but we live in a dangerous time where even the most secure CEX has been hacked; if CEX that spend millions of dollars on security can be hacked, then OP is a piece of cake. I'd argue that because the OP has pledged to repay the funds and his account is the most important asset to make that happen, raising flags would cause him more harm and shit than he already is.

OP shit happens but listen I don't agree or disagree with your explanation, but pay attention. SUCIDE is not an option; put your shit up and come up with a solution. Best wishes. Don't give up; you've got this..

if someone now wants to put a flag or a red tag on you, then it will be well deserved.

Actually, unless OP pays them back, I believe a Flag is needed. Doesn't matter if OP did it on purpose or really "got hacked", by ignoring basic safety precautions, this applies:

Due to various concrete red flags, I believe that anyone dealing with this user has a high risk of losing money.

I know all of you will not believe me but I will do everything I can to repay the lost funds even if it takes a while.

[Renampun]

-There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.

-Not that I know of. No one is even allowed in my room where I keep my PC. Not even my kids can touch it.

To be honest, I was very surprised by this incident and did not expect this to happen to you when you handled 2 mixer campaigns with a large total escrow fund. kill yourself? and you shouldn't do that, your 2 children really need you. I'm curious about what actually happened and how the hacker could infiltrate your wallet!

-I plan on doing so. I know it will be a very long and hard road to overcome but I will most definitely try.

-Again, I'm not planning on leaving this forum. I earn my living here (which is a shitty way of telling, I have no real job). My whole family depends on me and I would most definitely not let them down.

your intention is very good to return the funds slowly, and I see that the DT team only marks you with neutral feedback, this is a very valuable experience for all campaign managers, and I wish you good luck.

[Smartvirus]

This is so not the news we hope to see in this forum. I can imagine the position both campaign manager in the person of Julerz12 and both [banned mixer]/[banned mixer] would be in at the moment. A time of disbelief and trying to comprehend what must have taken place. Funds and reputation on the line but somehow, the bottom of this would be reached.

The error in this is having to serve as escrow instead of getting getting actual mediator to serve in that regard.

I can understand wanting to hold several weeks worth of budgets for a bounty/sig campaign but while doing so you also assume all the risk associated with holding said funds. Most of my campaigns, even though I make sure I can cover a week or two, are on a week-to-week basis with receiving funds and sending it out to participants. It makes it easier, it makes it more secure and it gives me a lot less of a headache in case anything were to happen.

I think this is highly necessary and it's quite noble to give some advise on how to go about campaign managemmin the person of Hhampuz.

[julerz12]

I'm curious about what actually happened and how the hacker could infiltrate your wallet!

That is what's been bothering me.
The Electrum wallet wasn't even open. It was closed and I only opened it again when I got informed by Coinomize team that the funds were traansferred. My jaw dropped and I almost fainted when I saw that a new transaction was in the history tab and the balance is zero.

From what I know, they needed my password to initiate a transaction, correct? They must have somehow logged that password when I opened the wallet to sign an address for the Yomix team to deposit the BTC funds 'cause prior to that $1,000 was just sitting on it from Coinomize for almost a week amd nothing happened to it.

The 12 word phrase was also stored offline, on my personal notebook. Ot was never written on any document on my pc or online.

Needless to say, I will wipe the shit of this OS tomorrow and install a new one with just minimal apps and zero hotwallets.

[yhiaali3]

Sorry for what happened to you @julerz, I'm really sad for you.

I was out and when I came back, I found two messages, one telling me that I was accepted into the [banned mixer] campaign, and the other, shortly after, telling me that the campaign had been suspended because the escrow wallet had been hacked.

I was very surprised when I heard what happened, I believe you, you are not one of the people who do such bad things, but it is your fault in the end and I am sorry to say that you bear full responsibility for what happened. Everyone agrees with me on that.

I hope you can return the guarantee money as soon as possible so that it does not affect your reputation in the forum.

[joker_josue]

First of all I want to say that I'm sorry about the situation that happened to the OP.

I would just like to complete a few points, to what has already been said, not wanting to make value judgments and condemnations (much has already been done in this regard).


One thing I suggest to the OP is that he do a careful analysis of his PC, in order to try to understand what went wrong and where the problem could have been.
Doing this is essential for 3 reasons:
- Perhaps you will be able to gather evidence or information that you have been hacked.
- Maybe you'll find out where I fail to make this situation happen and that way I don't repeat the same mistakes.
- Sharing what went wrong will help the whole community to continue to improve their security levels and be more prepared.

We shouldn't look at the problem as just a problem, but also as an opportunity for learning and for everyone to improve.

This is not to devalue the victims' loss of money! Heads up! Everything must be done to get that money back.

I think that these types of events, even though they are very sad for everyone involved, should serve to improve. And it is in that sense that I am saying these words.


Good luck to the OP and everyone involved!