I've been hacked (Electrum 4.3.2)

[Upgrade00]

Quite an unfortunate situation to come up so early in the year when most have lots of bills to settle.

Everyone would have an conjectures on the matter, whether or not the truth is being told or if someone is being dishonest and whichever way you swing you could have a point.

On the side of julerz, this would be such a silly way to try to make away with user funds. I would expect an experienced user to come up with a better conspiracy theory which would be well thought out and have fewer loopholes in the story.
Besides this we can only take him by his reputation on the forum. As ridiculous as the story could be, it could also be true.

On the flip side, there are so many questions to ask about how it happened and what other funds besides that of the two campaigns in question were stolen. Cause a hack is likely going to affect other funds held on that wallet.For now all we can do is watch and wait. julerz12 has hinted at paying the lost funds and coinomize has expressed understanding as long as the situation gets straightened out eventually. That's a positive step and shows the issue can be resolved fully.
Hopefully we see some action towards that commitment in the coming week (the earlier the better it is to show your willingness to fix the issue), this would ease some nerves of the parties involved.

Julerz12, it could all be overwhelming right now, but take some time to cool off as emotions would be running wild atm. Mistakes happen and we have no option but to learn from them. After a day or two, you would have more clarity and can return to some level of normalcy and work out a plan with the other parties.

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[ltcrstrbrt]

Julerz12  managed funds in ICO campaigns ( Bounty campaigns) in the past as well, when the rewards were much higher  and there were never any problems.
I've worked with him and every time I got my payment completely, on time, without any problem.
From my point of view and from my experience with him, therefore the hack probability is very high!
If  the system is not compromised ( including keyloggers etc..) we should be aware about Electrum (4.3.2 version )
From what I've checked right now, there was an update about a hour ago, to 4.3.3 version. ( see GitHub)

[CoinEraser]

Oh man, that's not good news and I'm a bit shocked. Unfortunately, you keep hearing about people getting their coins stolen, and this time it's even a BM. I don't really know what to think of the whole thing either, but somehow I believe the whole story.

Surely this event could have been prevented, but now it has happened and it can no longer be changed. Julerz12, life goes on, so don't despair. Usually there are always ways and means to make things right again.

[taufik123]

Entirely surprised by the news of the hacking of Julerz12's wallet containing escrow funds for the Coinomize and Yomix campaigns.
this is my first campaign with julerz12 and really didn't expect a hacking incident like this.

 Feel sorry for julerz12 because of this hacking case, but if julerz has stated that he will replace the lost funds, then it will be his responsibility to start clearing his name from allegations of fraud.

hey julerz12, you really have to learn from senior managers like Hhampuz who manage campaigns well and professionally, not only concerned with your comfort but thinking about the security of your escrow funds and wallet. Using a hot wallet is stupid when you have a hardware wallet which is certainly safer. it is a fatal mistake that you do.

Hopefully, this problem will be resolved soon and the campaign will be resumed, all campaign participants hope for the best and that this case will be resolved soon.

and why don't you use additional antivirus besides windows defender? it becomes a fatal error, because windows defender cannot be fully trusted to secure your device. I even use a premium antivirus to secure the device as a backup in case windows defender can't handle it.

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The problem is my system had no anti-virus or whatsoever, it does have windows defender but now, I think that shitty app isn't doing anything. -snip-

[CoinPayCard.net]

Julerz12  managed funds in ICO campaigns ( Bounty campaigns) in the past as well, when the rewards were much higher  and there were never any problems.
I've worked with him and every time I got my payment completely, on time, without any problem.
From my point of view and from my experience with him, therefore the hack probability is very high!
If  the system is not compromised ( including keyloggers etc..) we should be aware about Electrum (4.3.2 version )
From what I've checked right now, there was an update about a hour ago, to 4.3.3 version. ( see GitHub)

Personally, I wouldn't download Electrum via GitHub. Too risky. But then again, their website could also be composable. I use Bitgo for most of my personal funds.

[Rikafip]

What a clusterfuck, to say the least.

So if julerz12 told YoMix the escrow funds are stored in a hardware wallet then why is he using the Electrum hot wallet? Was this from a  on purpose?

You misunderstood something here. julerz12 was using Ledger for his own salary while funds for campaign were on his hot wallet (Electrum). And yes, it was very irresponsible to use hot wallet for the sake of convenience but it is what it is. Lesson learned the hard way.

[Coinomize.biz]

You really have noble morals, and it is fortunate that we got to know your project through the signature campaign, and I appreciate your generosity you will pay the participants in the [banned mixer] signature campaign for the first week tomorrow. I hope that Julerz will do his best to return the funds to you, even if it is "little" as you mentioned, but it is your right and your money, I feel bad for what happened and I hope you will give the BM time to collect the money that was hacked and return it to you as soon as possible.

Accept my full respect and appreciation for you  

I appreciate your generosity

We are all human and humans make mistakes. I think we all would not live anymore if we would do something like this because of money

Time will pass.

I am writing this because we are convinced that it was not intentional and he is not lying because he has done a very good job the last few days.
We hope of course that we can solve it together

[Coin_trader]

This is what happened to me when I updated my Electrum wallet app[1] on my computer last year before my desktop have a virus and not working anymore. I click the download link of button when the notification popup from electrum wallet pops and direct me to electrum website. I pretty check the website though but still my computer is not working anymore that result to loss of my wallet.

I really understood what Julerz12 feel because that money last is pretty is significant in PH. I really doubt that Julerz will gonna scam because his identity is already exposed on his linked in and other social media. He has a lot of active bounty campaign that pays him for his work weekly. Giving him some time to pay is the best for both party here.

I hope you're alright men. You can recover it.

[Mr.right85]

There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.

Don't say that! It's just a "little" money and not the end of the world! We will not open a scam accusation because of something like that. Sure it's not great, but it's not the end of the world as I said. The most important thing is that you straighten it out.

I feel sorry for all the parties to be loosing something to this hack on julerz12. Judging by his reputation, his been good at his job thus far and became a little carefree then got hit by this hack.
For all we know, it could be an inner circle hack for which his got to look into. I can't imagine this to be done by a far distant person and by the details to have be given on security and privacy, you never can tell how private your diary would have bee to your circle but, just a wrong move could have people reserve a copy.

Looking at [banned mixer] funds in wallet, that's about $1090+ worth with current btc price and them having to sympathise with the manager is so encouragement in the event of truth. So unexpected but, nice to see non the less.

This is a wake up call on security especially for managers and those offering escrow services. Let's be guided.

[tabas]

Sorry for what happened, you've just messaged us on the campaign that we're going on a week 2 and then it's come to noticed that the fund was hacked. I'm not thinking of any negative thing about you since you've made your reputation on the forum through the work that you've been through. Well, it's just two things, you're honest and you'll accept whatever is the condition to cover the hacked funds by paying it to the two campaigns that's involved and you can't take it emotionally since it's really draining you. Or you'll just forget all of the years of hard work you've made and the reputation you've built on and gone in an instant. I doubt the latter part will just be easy on you. @julerz, I'm hoping that you will be able to overcome this situation and I know that we're dealing with tough situations in life but I agree with those folks that it's not the end of your life and you'll bounce back soon. @yomix and @coinomize, I admire your patience and consideration on what has happened to both of you. You're just running your first campaigns and then a terrible experience has came.

[decodx]

julerz12, I don't mean to add insult to injury, but this really looks bad. If what you're saying is true, then I am truly sorry.

I understand that this may seem overwhelming and costly, but please know that it is not the end of the world. While money can be a concern, the most important thing to remember is that there is always a solution to every problem. Remember that money comes and goes, but resilience and determination can help us overcome any challenge.

At this time, the most important thing is to try to stay calm and reach out to the companies that trusted you with their money. By working together, you may be able to find a way to make things right and resolve the situation. Good luck!

If  the system is not compromised ( including keyloggers etc..) we should be aware about Electrum (4.3.2 version )
From what I've checked right now, there was an update about a hour ago, to 4.3.3 version. ( see GitHub)

No need to spread FUD. At this time, there is no evidence to suggest that Electrum version 4.3.2 has any critical security vulnerabilities. Version 4.3.3 is only a minor update and has been available since January 3. Please be sure to double-check the facts before sharing information to ensure accuracy.

[taufik123]

We are all human and humans make mistakes. I think we all would not live anymore if we would do something like this because of money

Time will pass.

I am writing this because we are convinced that it was not intentional and he is not lying because he has done a very good job the last few days.
We hope of course that we can solve it together

I really appreciate what you said "We are all human and humans can make mistakes". You are really wise to respond to this hacking case and don't get performed with some negative feedback about the theft of which julerz12 as your campaign manager is accused.

If an already trust julerz12 and this is just his carelessness, will you continue to use his services as a manager again when he replaces the lost funds, or will you switch to another manager?

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I really doubt that Julerz will gonna scam because his identity is already exposed on his linked in and other social media. He has a lot of active bounty campaign that pays him for his work weekly. Giving him some time to pay is the best for both party here.

I hope you're alright men. You can recover it.

Julerz12 has a clear identity on his social media and has become an active manager in recent months. Just waiting to replace the lost funds so that the problem can be resolved quickly.

[Coinomize.biz]

I really appreciate what you said "We are all human and humans can make mistakes". You are really wise to respond to this hacking case and don't get performed with some negative feedback about the theft of which julerz12 as your campaign manager is accused.

Well, we wouldn't get our money back now if we called him a scammer. You have to listen to the facts first.

He has done a good job, is always online and you get an answer within minutes and I dont think that someone puts his reputation on the line for a few thousand dollars. Anyone else would never come online again and disappear with the money.
Of course, the wallet hack sounds very implausible at first, but we have hope.

If an already trust julerz12 and this is just his carelessness, will you continue to use his services as a manager again when he replaces the lost funds, or will you switch to another manager?

Difficult question. We will see how he solves all this now.
If then without escrow wallet.
We will then pay out the funds or use another escrow service if there is such a thing here.

[Broadanbig]

I really feel the pain you are going through right now. It is very painful and devastating to start seeing such all of a sudden. You never expected this to happen just like that.  You never can tell when such occurrence  might take place. Those things are not just ordinary things that would just happen and go but rather it lives either a good or a bad remark but our ability to contain it tells how matured and strong we are.  It will be very difficult for you to explain which I know you will try to do but people will find it difficult to believe and understand you not to talk of someone that has not experienced such before.
Please do not feel too bad about it as the money is not worth your life and peace of mind. Just try calm yourself down  so you could focus and take the right step in making decision to resolving the issue at hand so as not to do anything that would put you in a tough and tight situation.
I believe the people would see the truth you are saying in less than no time. Just cheer up and be at peace with yourself as you have always been. From the little post I have read here, I know you are a good manager and it still speaks for you.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I'm not entirely sure how this happened but I'm pretty sure I've been hacked.

Man!!! I am so sorry to hear it. Many members are expressing their doubts but I do not think it make sense in any way that a campaign manager who built his business for years will give up everything for few K? Very unlikely and suicidal act. Even for debate, if it was done by him then again it does not make sense to reply and let it know to others. He could logout, and never show off. It's all waste of time for him.

So, let's leave the doubt aside, whoever is doubting fuck you assholes. Imagine if you were in such situation, what the fuck would you think you would do considering it is a lot of money for you?

@julerz12, I am sorry again brother. The best course of action will be to make an arrangement with the owners. Show them your true intention and promise them to repay as per the deal you both will agree. Life is not easy, sometimes it's okay, sometimes it's very hard but it's always a blessing to live.

Next time use either hardware wallet or a multisignature wallet with having the keys in different devices. Never store the private key or seed phrase in digital format and in the same device for multisignature wallet. We all do mistakes and pay the price for it. You paid for it but don't let it happen again to pay for the same mistake.

[Taskford]

This is indeed a big problem mate since its hard to prove something hard to explain to the people but good thing one of your clients is good and understand the situation so maybe its time for you to prove things that you didn't do something wrong then solve this issue.

Hopefully you can get thru all of this and can settle this big problem occur to you this is really a big messed need to fix.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Now this has happened and even though this is a little difficult for you, you have to stay strong to go through something like this. You have responsibility for your responsibility for your family and of course your previous position regardless of this is your fault or not I think it doesn't matter.
It's not the end of the world and all you need to do is stand tall and face the problems that have happened right now. $5000 is a lot of money for most people but it is still up for grabs and it is certainly not the end of the world as some friends have said before.
You just need to prove that you can get through this and take responsibility for what other people have entrusted to you before. Of course this is a valuable lesson because basically we also need conditions when we are down like this because with that we will be more careful and not careless the next day.

[Cantsay]

I have only participate in one of julerz12's signature campaign and with the way he handles/organises all the activities that takes place in his campaign is just something else most especially his telegram group. I have always viewed him as one of the most organised CM. So I'm curious to know how on earth was it possible for an organised man like julerz12 to get hacked this is really freaking me out.
I have heard of losing funds by copying and pasting addresses if your system is infected with malware but I'm not sure if that's the case here since he said [banned mixer] money stayed in his wallet for up to a week before this hack. Or have hackers have devised a new method of stealing data from our system undetected? Wow this is shocking...

There's nothing I can provide that would prove my innocence. I would like to kill myself right now but I would prefer another alternative as I have two kids whom I would very much like to see grow up.

I know that the money is quite alot, with $5000 I would be able to accomplish so many things but that doesn't mean it's more valuable than your life. And just as you said in your post that you have children what do you think will be of them if you should take the suicidal path? Suicide won't stop anything it will only lead to the creation of more pain for those that you're going to leave behind.

All I can say right now is that you should be strong, make sure you check your health because I'm sure losing money that's has enormous has this can cause some mental stress and if perhaps you wish to pay back little by little you need to be alive to accomplish that so please just take your time to relax and don't forget medications. Remember health is wealth.

[BlackRexuz]

Sometimes, bad days are there to remind us that we have good ones to look forward to. Sad it happened, we'll run new campaign soon managed by Royse777.

Why not use the services of someone who is more experienced in managing campaigns and has extensive experience as a campaign manager, in my opinion @yahoo62278 and @Hampuz are worth replacing than you have to use the services of @Royse777, but if @Julerz12 wants to be responsible and willing to pay or replace  these funds, will it be continued again and continue to use the services of @Julerz12..

[icopress]

1. If you can't guarantor marketing funds, you shouldn't be in this business.

2. It seems strange to me to create a new wallet (given that you have been working with other clients for more than one year). I would understand if you said that you do this all the time, but this is also strange because having a notebook with different private keys, and constantly switching from one wallet to another is a complete disrespect for your personal time). As a client, I wouldn't send you money if you didn't sign a Bitcoin message from any Bitcoin Address you've previously used to store campaign funds (or at least the one linked to your account here).