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January 10, 2023, 07:53:30 PM |
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Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her?
This is very annoying for this kind of treatment to the woman because it's just irrational for this to be generally accepted. Although I can blame the casino too because it look obvious that the machine had malfunctioned for the woman to win such a big amount of money that is unbelievable to happen on a normal ground. Since it's just a machine and it do not have a concrete evidence to back it up in order to fill the case to court. This shouldn't have been accepted but I am still thinking possible it could be for someone to win a big amount of money if the machine does not malfunctioned.
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January 10, 2023, 07:57:20 PM |
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Unfortunately, this happens a lot more than we know. Casinos don't mind taking your money, but as soon as you win big, there's all kinds of excuses. There was a man that took one of the big three to court in the UK over a multi million pound bet, I believe it was a sport bet. They refused to pay initially. I do believe he won in court though.
I can't imagine what it feels like to see that you've won some big money, legitimately, and then get rejected the withdrawal. If you take them to court, you'll likely win. However, it's the hassle of that, and I suppose they're hoping you take the easier route, and likely will attempt to settle outside of the court for much less than the actual winnings.
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January 10, 2023, 08:02:07 PM |
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Katrina Bookman was playing the slots at the Resorts World Casino in Jamaica, Queens when she secured what would have been the largest slot machine jackpot in US history - $42,949,672 (£35.4m). She took a selfie with the machine to mark the moment, and later said her whole body went 'numb' when she saw the life-changing figure. Bookman was told to come back the next day to discuss her winnings, but when she asked an employee what she'd be walking away with, he responded: "You didn't win nothing." The New York State Gaming Commission said Bookman’s machine had malfunctioned, and that she'd actually won just $2.25 (£1.86).The machine had a disclaimer stating 'malfunctions void all pays and plays', and as a result the commission said that they were required by law to give Bookman only what she'd actually won. Source: https://www.unilad.com/community/woman-won-43-million-offered-steak-dinner-instead-055644-20230108Some Casinos are just plain fraudulent. So this woman visited a casino, play slot and won $43million. She took a selfie with the amount displayed on the machine. The casino saw it and told her to return the next day so they could talk about the winnings. Next day she returned. Story changed. She was told the machine had malfunctioned and therefore it was what was responsible for the winnings. They went ahead to offer her a complimentary steak dinner. I got so livid reading this story. Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her? The casino should lose their license in this scenario, if the regulator actually had any teeth and were capable of doing their job properly. There should be no "get out" clause like that or they can literally say that any single jackpot that a machine shows up is null and void, thus defeating the whole point of playing towards a jackpot from the customer perspective. It's not only the casino at fault here, it is the government enforcement agency that are clearly powerless to do anything against fraudulent actions of a casino. By letting them get away with it once, it will just be easier for them to get away with it again in future and might even be abused more in future.
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January 10, 2023, 08:08:36 PM |
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Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her?
The mechince being faulty is non of the woman's problem, since the machine already displayed that she won and she is having evidence, then they should pay her the money, next time they should always make sure they carry out maintenance on their machine frequently. The woman shouldn't accept the dinner, she shouldn't take it easy with them, she should make sure she collect her money. The casino is just very stupid, how will someone win that kind of money and the only thing you can use to compensate the person is steak dinner, I think they should just plead with the woman and maybe give her half of her win or reasonable amount of money if she will accept their offer, but the only thing the can offer is just steak dinner. The problem is with her actually because she didn't observe her surroundings first if there is a sign or what but he just play the game directly. I think this can be the same to those who gamble online blindly where they will experience a problem later on. I know for some, they will blame the owner of the slot machine because why the heck they do this instead of replacing the whole thing? But, maybe that wasn't really their priority. Maybe they have other business (can be a restaurant) since it is said that the woman is offered by a dinner. The only put a slot machine there for their customers to have something to pass the time while waiting for their orders. If we are serious of making cash then we should go on a real casino, since they have more benefits there and we are sure that the machines are working fine or they are legit/fair.
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January 10, 2023, 08:17:14 PM |
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Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her? In any serious country, such a case would certainly cause the casino to permanently close its doors. Whether due to the obligation to pay the prize (without having the money) or fines and lawsuits filed against the casino by the person who won and also by local authorities. It is simply unacceptable to refuse to pay the premium on the basis of such a response. Did anyone other than the casino itself testify that the machine was out of order? Was this done in front of the woman who won, in front of some authority or someone "neutral" to this situation? Obviously not. We know that in most illegal casinos these machines really have a problem, but usually the problem is intentionally implanted to rob people. Then, when there is a "problem with the problem" of stealing money, they still deny it. Unfortunate! I hope that this woman does not give up her rights and that the authorities give the case the attention it deserves.
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January 10, 2023, 08:37:19 PM |
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Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her?
All i can say is that What the f*ck is that kind of reasoning?If it was broken in the first place then they should not play someone into that machine.This is rather just a bullsh*t reason or alibi because they dont want to pay up that amount to the winner.The wrong thing on which that woman had done is that she had agreed to leave the vicinity and comeback for another day.She could really be able to contest it out if the machine is broken or not.It is really just sad that $35M goes to nothing or a buck or couple which i cant really just believe such situation to happen but well im not surprised that Gaming commission does really receive some bribe. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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January 10, 2023, 08:38:44 PM |
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This is fucked up. I am just sensing racism on the casino winning issue. Probably because the lady came Africa (black) woman that was why she was denied to collect her winning. A casino machine never malfunction to a gambler. If a casino machine malfunction like that then how many gamblers have loss and won casino slot games that have complained. I have not heard any complain from gamblers like this one before. But all is well.
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January 10, 2023, 08:47:13 PM |
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Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her?
This is very annoying for this kind of treatment to the woman because it's just irrational for this to be generally accepted. Although I can blame the casino too because it look obvious that the machine had malfunctioned for the woman to win such a big amount of money that is unbelievable to happen on a normal ground. Since it's just a machine and it do not have a concrete evidence to back it up in order to fill the case to court. This shouldn't have been accepted but I am still thinking possible it could be for someone to win a big amount of money if the machine does not malfunctioned. Whether the casino was honest or not then there's nothing we can do since they had made out their negotiations in between the women and the company itself.If she had just dealt up with on the claims that it was broken then it is really just sad that she had just spiked and mind off about change of her life since shes already a millionaire but ending up that it was really just a dream given on this circumstances. Companies shouldn't allow broken machines if ever this was true and not really some excuse just not to pay up that huge win.
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January 10, 2023, 08:48:06 PM |
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Katrina Bookman was playing the slots at the Resorts World Casino in Jamaica, Queens when she secured what would have been the largest slot machine jackpot in US history - $42,949,672 (£35.4m). She took a selfie with the machine to mark the moment, and later said her whole body went 'numb' when she saw the life-changing figure. Bookman was told to come back the next day to discuss her winnings, but when she asked an employee what she'd be walking away with, he responded: "You didn't win nothing." The New York State Gaming Commission said Bookman’s machine had malfunctioned, and that she'd actually won just $2.25 (£1.86).The machine had a disclaimer stating 'malfunctions void all pays and plays', and as a result the commission said that they were required by law to give Bookman only what she'd actually won. Source: https://www.unilad.com/community/woman-won-43-million-offered-steak-dinner-instead-055644-20230108Some Casinos are just plain fraudulent. So this woman visited a casino, play slot and won $43million. She took a selfie with the amount displayed on the machine. The casino saw it and told her to return the next day so they could talk about the winnings. Next day she returned. Story changed. She was told the machine had malfunctioned and therefore it was what was responsible for the winnings. They went ahead to offer her a complimentary steak dinner. I got so livid reading this story. Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her? It is a scam obviously, any casino that knew that one or several of their slot machines were not working correctly will simply not allow anyone to play with them and will begin the process of figuring out what is wrong with them, they are just using this as an excuse to not pay the legitimate winnings of this woman, in this forum we remind people all the time to only gamble at online casinos with good reputations so this does not happen to them, but such advice should also be applied to regular casinos, and this is the perfect example of why that is the case.
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January 10, 2023, 08:52:13 PM |
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Katrina Bookman was playing the slots at the Resorts World Casino in Jamaica, Queens when she secured what would have been the largest slot machine jackpot in US history - $42,949,672 (£35.4m). She took a selfie with the machine to mark the moment, and later said her whole body went 'numb' when she saw the life-changing figure. Bookman was told to come back the next day to discuss her winnings, but when she asked an employee what she'd be walking away with, he responded: "You didn't win nothing." The New York State Gaming Commission said Bookman’s machine had malfunctioned, and that she'd actually won just $2.25 (£1.86).The machine had a disclaimer stating 'malfunctions void all pays and plays', and as a result the commission said that they were required by law to give Bookman only what she'd actually won. Source: https://www.unilad.com/community/woman-won-43-million-offered-steak-dinner-instead-055644-20230108Some Casinos are just plain fraudulent. So this woman visited a casino, play slot and won $43million. She took a selfie with the amount displayed on the machine. The casino saw it and told her to return the next day so they could talk about the winnings. Next day she returned. Story changed. She was told the machine had malfunctioned and therefore it was what was responsible for the winnings. They went ahead to offer her a complimentary steak dinner. I got so livid reading this story. Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her? It is a scam obviously, any casino that knew that one or several of their slot machines were not working correctly will simply not allow anyone to play with them and will begin the process of figuring out what is wrong with them, they are just using this as an excuse to not pay the legitimate winnings of this woman, in this forum we remind people all the time to only gamble at online casinos with good reputations so this does not happen to them, but such advice should also be applied to regular casinos, and this is the perfect example of why that is the case. We know that it does really give out that overall different experience when we do play a slot machine physically compared when you do just simply deal with those online slots which its not still an assurance that you would be get paid off with huge winnings even if you do deal up with online but its true that it would really be just sensible that you would be sticking into those known or reputable sites which is really that understandable or something that normal for a person to do so. It is really scam obviously, if the machine is broken or doesnt function well then why they do let that women do play freely? They arent making some complaints since they are the ones who do make money but on the time where huge hit happens then this is where their reasoning would come out.
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blockman
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January 10, 2023, 08:57:43 PM |
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I'd sue the casino for telling me that. They should just give her winnings as they've acknowledged her win during that particular moment. But then again, maybe that casino doesn't have much money left which I doubt so they're declining her winnings. It's certainly stupid to say that she did win nothing and just had given a steak as a consolation. I'd even decline anything they offer except the actual amount or near to that amount less taxes.
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Sanitough
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January 10, 2023, 09:22:15 PM |
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This is a scam by the casino to prevent further losses with what happened. I don’t think it should be possible to do that to a people. Imagine if it’s someone of power and they do that to them. They would probably be fuming in anger with that.
I do hope that they find some way to pay for that. They owe her that much and not just a steak.
I don’t believe that the machine is malfunctioning, because if that’s the case, they should have removed it before the gambler use it. This is certainly another big scam made by the casino itself so they can avoid paying such a huge amount, which I think even if they pay, the casino bankroll will never be enough. The player should somehow report this to the gambling boards authority so that the casino will be reprimanded of its own action.
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Russlenat
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January 10, 2023, 09:32:13 PM |
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Some Casinos are just plain fraudulent. So this woman visited a casino, play slot and won $43million. She took a selfie with the amount displayed on the machine. The casino saw it and told her to return the next day so they could talk about the winnings. Next day she returned. Story changed. She was told the machine had malfunctioned and therefore it was what was responsible for the winnings. They went ahead to offer her a complimentary steak dinner. I got so livid reading this story.
Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her?
Frankly, this whole story looks doubtful in many details. In any case, if something like this actually took place, then the final decision will be made in court. The casino cannot say that "the machine was broken, you did not win anything" this must be proven. In addition, I was struck by the fact that she went home to "come back tomorrow and discuss the winnings." I understand that she was in shock, but you can't do that. The casino is obviously making it’s own shallow excuse just to avoid paying the big amount of winnings. Maybe the casino is used to this that’s why it’s easy for them to make an excuse. But if I were the player, I should never settle with that. I should at least receive a significant amount even if it’s not equivalent from my winnings. Otherwise, if the casino still refuse to pay, this case should be carry to the court and only the court by then will decide if casino’s action is valid or not.
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carlfebz2
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January 10, 2023, 09:35:59 PM |
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This is a scam by the casino to prevent further losses with what happened. I don’t think it should be possible to do that to a people. Imagine if it’s someone of power and they do that to them. They would probably be fuming in anger with that.
I do hope that they find some way to pay for that. They owe her that much and not just a steak.
I don’t believe that the machine is malfunctioning, because if that’s the case, they should have removed it before the gambler use it. This is certainly another big scam made by the casino itself so they can avoid paying such a huge amount, which I think even if they pay, the casino bankroll will never be enough. The player should somehow report this to the gambling boards authority so that the casino will be reprimanded of its own action. A big scam indeed and they do just make out that kind of excuse that it was broken, if it was broken then why the heck it is really still operating on the vicinity? Just some posters said above that it would definitely be suing them out and trying to make up some arguments and some legal actions considering that this isnt only talking a small sum of money.Offering a steak dinner instead of my winnings is something that i couldn't really accept.Its a scam and its pretty obvious.
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Finestream
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January 10, 2023, 09:40:06 PM |
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This happened in 2016 just in case anyone is wondering. I tried to search for the verdict of the lawsuit she filed against the casino but it looks like it's still pending. I personally doubt she'll win the case since the NY Gaming Commission already sided with Resort World. The said machine's maximum payout is supposedly $6500 only. Here's a more updated story if you want to read https://bonuslots.net/katrina-bookman-vs-resorts-world-casino/ Maybe the slot machine is really malfunctioning that time but the casino staffs should have fixed it, otherwise players should be warned not to play on it. But i felt sorry for that woman because knowing that the NY Gaming Commission has sided with the casino, then I don’t think she will still receive her won amount. But at least she will still be given the maximum payout and not just settle with a simple dinner.
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Johnyz
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January 10, 2023, 09:41:51 PM |
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Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her?
That casinos is not honest at all and If i were the one who won that kind of money, I won’t go home without it or without a proof that I won that money. I will not exchange it into a steak, that casino should pay regardless of the reason. I hope she can still get her winnings, the good thing here she took a picture of it and can use that as her evidence, better to put this in court and expose that casino for not paying the winning prize.
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Gozie51
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January 10, 2023, 10:00:08 PM |
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It would have been nicer if they said it was a joke. Or they would have said they only felt it was for bonanza and that such games are disqualified but to offer some dinner to the lady who won , that is a fraud because it means they have accepted that should won by that offer they made to her. The casino has to be reported for defrauding the customer and people need to stay away from them.
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passwordnow
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January 10, 2023, 10:00:26 PM |
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That casinos is not honest at all and If i were the one who won that kind of money, I won’t go home without it or without a proof that I won that money. I will not exchange it into a steak, that casino should pay regardless of the reason.
Me too, I'll stay until they give me my winnings and that's a lot of money. Well, can't blame the woman who won that amount and then told to go home and she can come back tomorrow. Those that are into local casinos and might have hit a jackpot soon, you'll all learn from this scenario. Don't settle for anything until you get the whole amount that you deserve. This is a crazy casino and I think this is just one of them there are more horror stories like this from other gamblers. I hope she can still get her winnings, the good thing here she took a picture of it and can use that as her evidence, better to put this in court and expose that casino for not paying the winning prize.
That's possible since she's got a selfie of it but in defense of that, the casino will just lie and say that there's a glitch and then let the court decide.
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Queentoshi
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January 10, 2023, 10:09:56 PM |
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Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings? Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it? How could they do this to her?
It is just too bad and will be an experience that has the potential to stop her from gambling. I believe the case went the way of the casino and the judges because the casino has more financial influence and most likely have influenced the outcome of the case. These kinds of situations will not stop happening because casinos can get away with it every time. It will be a story that she will always talk about.
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January 10, 2023, 10:13:50 PM |
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It was already very suspicious at first. The casino wants to discuss today's winning on the next day? that sounds ridiculous. They can discuss it for further details on the next day, but they must provide a proof of winning or a claim stub signed by the casino and the winner. That was nothing but a deliberate plan when someone wins a huge prizes. They need at least a day to fabricate a story that the machine malfunctioned and a fake proof will be provided as well. This casino must be investigated and sued, and most importantly put a huge fine on top of it if they want to retain their license.
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