Can any one set up a Blockchain Court of Justice ?

[BitcoinMoses]

It will be great if some one help me by setting up a Blockchain Court of Justice ?  I think the legal matter and Justice need the decentralized, non government Blockchain Court of Justice, where any one and every can cast their verdict as Jury  after reading the case submitted by the Victims.

[franky1]

nothing need to be set up
its simple

a judge can say
if you find him guilty deposit your 0.0001 ($2) and fund his prison time to address X
if you find him innocent deposit your 0.0001 ($2) and fund his compensation for having his time wasted being accused

the court exists.. however. trying to get justice.. no code can program "human"
it just becomes who can social drama the best story of what events happened, and make their story the most viral to get most votes.. you cant program that

[jackg]

no code can program "human"
it just becomes who can social drama the best story of what events happened, and make their story the most viral to get most votes.. you cant program that

In summary, it'd just become a different or extra version of the currently disliked/suboptimal system.

Most courts can become victims of manipulation already and a decentralised one would do the same unless it's based off specific logic (such as decentralised exchanges).

[Dunamisx]

Going by your profile OP. I could see that you were last active on 23rd of November last year and 3rd of January this year before resurrecting back, now to start with your topic, don't you think legal or reputation will best fit in for these kind of thread, it seems you're also back this time around to continue your last year unfinished propagandas which i expect to receive a new beginning this year by turning a new leaf, why not stop the unnecessary trauma on what's not it and concentrate on how you can be able to contribute well to the forum.

[mendace]

It will be great if some one help me by setting up a Blockchain Court of Justice ?  I think the legal matter and Justice need the decentralized, non government Blockchain Court of Justice, where any one and every can cast their verdict as Jury  after reading the case submitted by the Victims.

While the concept of a decentralized, blockchain-based court of justice is an interesting one, it would likely be difficult to implement in practice. There are several challenges that would need to be addressed, such as ensuring the security and integrity of the voting process, protecting the privacy of those involved in the case, and ensuring that the outcome of the trial is legally binding. Additionally, it would be important to ensure that the individuals serving as jurors are qualified and unbiased. While it is possible that blockchain technology could be used to facilitate a decentralized court system in the future, it is currently a topic of ongoing research and development.

[franky1]

no code can program "human"
it just becomes who can social drama the best story of what events happened, and make their story the most viral to get most votes.. you cant program that

In summary, it'd just become a different or extra version of the currently disliked/suboptimal system.

Most courts can become victims of manipulation already and a decentralised one would do the same unless it's based off specific logic (such as decentralised exchanges).

blockchains just log the result of a protocol
blockchains already exists and are not complicated  to perform such a log

the protocol however that is the complex part
there are certain things that cannot be programmed.  and humans are not logical.. unfortunately

there have been many "justice" systems theorised. such as having an ID system where everyone is registered and how people earn reputation points for life stuff. and if asked to be on jury duty they are all put into a pool of possible jurors where their life attributes choose best candidates (peers) EG a black african suspect has more then 50% black peers as jurors.. but then comes the "privacy" "surveillance state"

other things like each piece of evidence is logged as a linkable hash to a file. and each piece of evidence has a 2 addresses, (for or against) determining if the evidence works for or against the defendant. which then adds up to which amount of evidence corroborates the defence or the prosecution narrative

[Ebede]

It will be great if some one help me by setting up a Blockchain Court of Justice ?  I think the legal matter and Justice need the decentralized, non government Blockchain Court of Justice, where any one and every can cast their verdict as Jury  after reading the case submitted by the Victims.

I like this idea but the problem is that this idea have to do with a lot of consultation because I have no see any necessary that we make a critical currency or a blockchain technology to have a court of justice. I'll tell you that in normal Court procedures when there is issue of block chain comes up the court will normally use already can also handle the differences so there is not any need for to have a Court of Justice for a block chain

[franky1]

moses YET AGAIN wants to promote a final idea. hoping to make money out of it. but always forgets to do the planning and actual work involved before promoting a product

he needs to explain the legal system he wants to see in words. before then asking people to convert it to code.
EG how do jurors vet the evidence, who choses the jurors . who stops alot of bias jurors or jurors with motivations to sway the judgement

how to prove jurors are independent and not just one victims/accused's relative with hundreds of addresses/accounts

[Yatsan]

no code can program "human"
it just becomes who can social drama the best story of what events happened, and make their story the most viral to get most votes.. you cant program that

In summary, it'd just become a different or extra version of the currently disliked/suboptimal system.

Most courts can become victims of manipulation already and a decentralised one would do the same unless it's based off specific logic (such as decentralised exchanges).

Indeed, also, it would go in contrast with decentralisation. Given that this blockchain protects anonymity, how come would it be proven every transaction if a user can transfer it from one wallet to another? Tracing indeed is possible but as long as there are no IDs tagged with that wallet, it would be impossible to determine who's the owner. Let us stick with being vigilant with our funds and to others. Stealing and hacking on the other hand is a also something. All of these would lead to one's negligence as an investor. It is money we are talking about in the first place and that should be enough for us to put extra caution with every action and held ourselves liable for whatever outcome.

[PX-Z]

non government Blockchain Court of Justice, where any one and every can cast their verdict as Jury  after reading the case submitted by the Victims.

Sounds like it will be chaos and manipulation will be a big factor to that system.
Even a person accused without enough evidence is already judged in socmed where keyboard warriors and misinformation exists how much more on such system.
Also, this is legal talk and not everyone understand the law, so if the vote casts are from lawyers it might work for legal purposes, but it can't be called decentralized and anonymity is not a thing on that system.

[franky1]

real life court is faulty for one main reason

in court. the victim is not fighting the accused. its instead lawyer vs lawyer
and because the lawyers are not the victim/accused or witness. the lawyers can say anything they like as the versions of events that fit some narrative. and put their interpretations of how they see evidence fits their story

this has and does sway jurors. which is why even though jurors are suppose to only judge based on the presented evidence. the jury are swayed by the lawyers presentation of evidence. and also lack of supplying crucial evidence

EG getting evidence excluded
EG employing "experts" that are paid to say evidence means X instead of Y

unless all these things can be codified into rules that dont help biases. then a "justice" crypto is difficult

[BitcoinMoses]

moses YET AGAIN wants to promote a final idea. hoping to make money out of it. but always forgets to do the planning and actual work involved before promoting a product

he needs to explain the legal system he wants to see in words. before then asking people to convert it to code.
EG how do jurors vet the evidence, who choses the jurors . who stops alot of bias jurors or jurors with motivations to sway the judgement

how to prove jurors are independent and not just one victims/accused's relative with hundreds of addresses/accounts

franky1

You are wrong, Bitcoin Moses has no intention to make money out of 'Blockchain Court of Justice'. It is you have made very large amount of money out of Bitcoin Moses's 'Bitcoin Project'. Where you are today, it is because of Bitcoin Moses.

One day soon you will stop bullying Bitcoin Moses and regrate for your own pride and mistakes.

[hatshepsut93]

Blockchain is not the only way to have decentralization. Blockchains are not always decentralized, in fact it's likely that there's more of the centralized ones than the decentralized.

non government Blockchain Court of Justice, where any one and every can cast their verdict as Jury  after reading the case submitted by the Victims.

you just want direct democracy for court cases, this is obviously a very bad idea. First, you can't ensure that the voters will statistically represent the population if it's a free for all and not a random selection. This opens a lot of room for corruption and injustice. Second, regular people are poor judges. They don't know the law, they don't spend their time trying to understand the concept of justice, their judgements would be based on emotions, political views and other irrational things.

Verdict - it's a bad idea. Case closed.

[BitcoinMoses]

Blockchain is not the only way to have decentralization. Blockchains are not always decentralized, in fact it's likely that there's more of the centralized ones than the decentralized.

non government Blockchain Court of Justice, where any one and every can cast their verdict as Jury  after reading the case submitted by the Victims.

you just want direct democracy for court cases, this is obviously a very bad idea. First, you can't ensure that the voters will statistically represent the population if it's a free for all and not a random selection. This opens a lot of room for corruption and injustice. Second, regular people are poor judges. They don't know the law, they don't spend their time trying to understand the concept of justice, their judgements would be based on emotions, political views and other irrational things.

Verdict - it's a bad idea. Case closed.

Legal Codes or rules are made by a group of people sponsored by the nationsate government, but at the same time the same government provide facilties to the law  practioners to manipulate those legal codes to create opportunities for the bad guy to scape from crimes they commit.  On other site when victim sufer do not get the justice because of injustice system.  Therefore, a new better system can be structured and implemented, where may legal practioners will practice law profesion not for making money but to help the victims who has suffered because of the injudicious elements in the legal system.  I thinks this will be verymuch helpfull for people deserve real justice.

[franky1]

moses YET AGAIN wants to promote a final idea. hoping to make money out of it. but always forgets to do the planning and actual work involved before promoting a product

he needs to explain the legal system he wants to see in words. before then asking people to convert it to code.
EG how do jurors vet the evidence, who choses the jurors . who stops alot of bias jurors or jurors with motivations to sway the judgement

how to prove jurors are independent and not just one victims/accused's relative with hundreds of addresses/accounts

franky1

You are wrong, Bitcoin Moses has no intention to make money out of 'Blockchain Court of Justice'. It is you have made very large amount of money out of Bitcoin Moses's 'Bitcoin Project'. Where you are today, it is because of Bitcoin Moses.

One day soon you will stop bullying Bitcoin Moses and regrate for your own pride and mistakes.

i dont bully. i literally just speak frank to everyone.
oh and no you didnt make bitcoin

oh and if you had ANY skills you would not be asking other people to make a blockchain for you!!
this topic proves you have no skills

yep im being frank.
bye. case closed. witnesess dismissed

[Fundamentals Of]

How about the aspect of the law? Would anybody just vote according to their own personal sense of morality and interpretation? To be honest, this might actually be better than the current rotten justice system in which there is only one judge who is neither a saint nor objective. But is it possible to just base decisions on our personal sense of right and wrong? And who will enforce the decisions of the court? Are we going to set up a police force also?

[franky1]

How about the aspect of the law? Would anybody just vote according to their own personal sense of morality and interpretation? To be honest, this might actually be better than the current rotten justice system in which there is only one judge who is neither a saint nor objective. But is it possible to just base decisions on our personal sense of right and wrong? And who will enforce the decisions of the court? Are we going to set up a police force also?

which "anybody just vote"

what if there was an incident related to a small mom&pop retail store vs a hell angels gang.
where only the mom&pop family and friends vote one way. but the mass of the national and international biker gangs vote the other way about what occured at the event.

20 vs 2000

.. as said before moses has not out a single rational thought into it. no plan, no concept design. just an idea he want to pitch. get others to make so he can then sell it..

[goldkingcoiner]

It will be great if some one help me by setting up a Blockchain Court of Justice ?  I think the legal matter and Justice need the decentralized, non government Blockchain Court of Justice, where any one and every can cast their verdict as Jury  after reading the case submitted by the Victims.

How would you even attempt to decentralize justice? Even with our most modern first world justice, we still see problems like condemning the wrong people. And the laws cannot be interpreted exactly the same for every situation. And every situation is unique. So this is why we need a human judge to make a ruling.

Although if you were to ask me, I do not see the use of Blockchain in justice. I would prefer to decentralize everything possible. I am not against decentralization. I just don't see blockchain as the solution.

Maybe you could store past case information on a blockchain?

[franky1]

It will be great if some one help me by setting up a Blockchain Court of Justice ?  I think the legal matter and Justice need the decentralized, non government Blockchain Court of Justice, where any one and every can cast their verdict as Jury  after reading the case submitted by the Victims.

How would you even attempt to decentralize justice? Even with our most modern first world justice, we still see problems like condemning the wrong people. And the laws cannot be interpreted exactly the same for every situation. And every situation is unique. So this is why we need a human judge to make a ruling.

Although if you were to ask me, I do not see the use of Blockchain in justice. I would prefer to decentralize everything possible. I am not against decentralization. I just don't see blockchain as the solution.

Maybe you could store past case information on a blockchain?

yep one of moses other failures of understanding... blockchain is just for logging of results..

what he has failed to explain, suggest or show a design concept/theory of is the protocol strategy of forming a community consensus of a result/verdict

[BitcoinMoses]

moses YET AGAIN wants to promote a final idea. hoping to make money out of it. but always forgets to do the planning and actual work involved before promoting a product

he needs to explain the legal system he wants to see in words. before then asking people to convert it to code.
EG how do jurors vet the evidence, who choses the jurors . who stops alot of bias jurors or jurors with motivations to sway the judgement

how to prove jurors are independent and not just one victims/accused's relative with hundreds of addresses/accounts

franky1

You are wrong, Bitcoin Moses has no intention to make money out of 'Blockchain Court of Justice'. It is you have made very large amount of money out of Bitcoin Moses's 'Bitcoin Project'. Where you are today, it is because of Bitcoin Moses.

One day soon you will stop bullying Bitcoin Moses and regrate for your own pride and mistakes.

i dont bully. i literally just speak frank to everyone.
oh and no you didnt make bitcoin

oh and if you had ANY skills you would not be asking other people to make a blockchain for you!!
this topic proves you have no skills

yep im being frank.
bye. case closed. witnesess dismissed

A thief never say he or she is a thief. Find out who designed Bitcoin and Blockchain ?  yes, same as those two faketoshi you can also say that you have made bitcoin.  Funny !  I have not asked for some one to make blockchain for me.   Read the topic properly.  Are you blind ?  definitely you are not blind and not frank but you are just funny, with lots of bitcoin money.