[ANN] SellDefi.com ~ Sell files for Bitcoin

[virasog]

what happens if a seller provide a description and upload a wrong file/damaged or just make a scam? how it can be trusted the contents? did you plan to make escrow on transactions?
what if there are virus/trojan/malware added to these files? did you plan to scan contents uploaded?

There is a note added on bottom of each product that files belong to seller and you must trust them. We do not provide escrow services but you will get what seller uploaded after making payment. Buyer must do that on their side.

Our system scans for viruses and we keep data encrypted so our system is protected. But for buyers someone can still upload a virus protected in password protected zip files so buyer must trust the seller before buying. That's why there is no option to view all products that are uploaded on our platform. Sellers only share links with their potential buyers themselves.

Your system scans for viruses etc and that is good but there is no grantee that we will get the product we paid for.

The note that files belong to seller, and we must trust them, makes no sense at all. Anyone can upload a fake file or nothing important at all and once we buy them , we will find out that we have been scammed.

You should provide the escrow Servies and protect the buyers interest otherwise it seems that you are only interested in the commission you get from these sales.

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[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Your system scans for viruses etc and that is good but there is no grantee that we will get the product we paid for.

The note that files belong to seller, and we must trust them, makes no sense at all. Anyone can upload a fake file or nothing important at all and once we buy them , we will find out that we have been scammed.

You should provide the escrow Servies and protect the buyers interest otherwise it seems that you are only interested in the commission you get from these sales.

Let's be honest. In themeforest or other marketplace how do we trust the files or products listed there? Let them do how they want to run their business. Over time depending on the service they will provide either they will flourish or they will disappear. I don't see there are anything negative to talk about them right now.

@bnbstorm for your marketing my recommendation will be Royse777 or julerz12. They are one of the few who can do your job well.

[virasog]

Your system scans for viruses etc and that is good but there is no grantee that we will get the product we paid for.

The note that files belong to seller, and we must trust them, makes no sense at all. Anyone can upload a fake file or nothing important at all and once we buy them , we will find out that we have been scammed.

You should provide the escrow Servies and protect the buyers interest otherwise it seems that you are only interested in the commission you get from these sales.

Let's be honest. In themeforest or other marketplace how do we trust the files or products listed there? Let them do how they want to run their business. Over time depending on the service they will provide either they will flourish or they will disappear. I don't see there are anything negative to talk about them right now.

@bnbstorm for your marketing my recommendation will be Royse777 or julerz12. They are one of the few who can do your job well.

After a bit of thinking, I fully agree with you that buyers and sellers have to trust each other on such marketplaces.

By the way, i was thinking that how can the site be the escrow in this case because the site has no idea if the file sold is right or wrong. Let's suppose the escrow is provided by the site and the file provided is correct one and the buyer falsely claim that he did not get the required product and, in this case, site can't process escrow in favour of buyer. For me, escrow is not possible in such sites.

[bnbstorm]

Your system scans for viruses etc and that is good but there is no grantee that we will get the product we paid for.

The note that files belong to seller, and we must trust them, makes no sense at all. Anyone can upload a fake file or nothing important at all and once we buy them , we will find out that we have been scammed.

You should provide the escrow Servies and protect the buyers interest otherwise it seems that you are only interested in the commission you get from these sales.

Let's be honest. In themeforest or other marketplace how do we trust the files or products listed there? Let them do how they want to run their business. Over time depending on the service they will provide either they will flourish or they will disappear. I don't see there are anything negative to talk about them right now.

@bnbstorm for your marketing my recommendation will be Royse777 or julerz12. They are one of the few who can do your job well.

Thank you for understanding. Exactly buyer always trust sellers in marketplaces like themeforest. Platform only provides guarantee that user will get files after sending payment which have been uploaded by seller.

Also thanks for marketing recommendations. We are in talk with Royse777

Your system scans for viruses etc and that is good but there is no grantee that we will get the product we paid for.

The note that files belong to seller, and we must trust them, makes no sense at all. Anyone can upload a fake file or nothing important at all and once we buy them , we will find out that we have been scammed.

You should provide the escrow Servies and protect the buyers interest otherwise it seems that you are only interested in the commission you get from these sales.

Let's be honest. In themeforest or other marketplace how do we trust the files or products listed there? Let them do how they want to run their business. Over time depending on the service they will provide either they will flourish or they will disappear. I don't see there are anything negative to talk about them right now.

@bnbstorm for your marketing my recommendation will be Royse777 or julerz12. They are one of the few who can do your job well.

After a bit of thinking, I fully agree with you that buyers and sellers have to trust each other on such marketplaces.

By the way, i was thinking that how can the site be the escrow in this case because the site has no idea if the file sold is right or wrong. Let's suppose the escrow is provided by the site and the file provided is correct one and the buyer falsely claim that he did not get the required product and, in this case, site can't process escrow in favour of buyer. For me, escrow is not possible in such sites.

Buyer will get files which were uploaded by seller. Payment processing and file delivery is automatic process. Also what we can do here is we can introduce a rating system for each product. If someone buys from a buyer and its a bad product they can rate them 0 so no one else buy that product. We can save people from getting scammed.

what happens if a seller provide a description and upload a wrong file/damaged or just make a scam? how it can be trusted the contents? did you plan to make escrow on transactions?
what if there are virus/trojan/malware added to these files? did you plan to scan contents uploaded?

There is a note added on bottom of each product that files belong to seller and you must trust them. We do not provide escrow services but you will get what seller uploaded after making payment. Buyer must do that on their side.

Our system scans for viruses and we keep data encrypted so our system is protected. But for buyers someone can still upload a virus protected in password protected zip files so buyer must trust the seller before buying. That's why there is no option to view all products that are uploaded on our platform. Sellers only share links with their potential buyers themselves.

Your system scans for viruses etc and that is good but there is no grantee that we will get the product we paid for.

The note that files belong to seller, and we must trust them, makes no sense at all. Anyone can upload a fake file or nothing important at all and once we buy them , we will find out that we have been scammed.

You should provide the escrow Servies and protect the buyers interest otherwise it seems that you are only interested in the commission you get from these sales.

If we make it work like an escrow service we will have to manually open and check each file and match it with its description. Which to some extent breaches security and privacy expects for seller. We cannot access their files without paying. So we are only scanning for viruses and saving encrypted files. Buyers can pay and get those files. Our aim is to provide provide anonymous selling platform for digital content. Bitcoin helps us build such platform and we don't need to ask users to provide their emails or kyc.


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[bnbstorm]

Feature Update:

We have added a new feature "Number of Views" for each product. Now sellers and buyers can check total traffic on a product. It can help sellers to understand how their product is performing. And also can help sellers to understand how famous a product is. "Number of Views" on each product show total times a product page is opened. While "Number of Downloads" shows total number of times when someone paid to get that product. We are continuously improving our service to serve Bitcoin community.

[CryptSafe]

Feature Update:

We have added a new feature "Number of Views" for each product. Now sellers and buyers can check total traffic on a product. It can help sellers to understand how their product is performing. And also can help sellers to understand how famous a product is. "Number of Views" on each product show total times a product page is opened. While "Number of Downloads" shows total number of times when someone paid to get that product. We are continuously improving our service to serve Bitcoin community.

This is good as improvement on your end shows you hid to advise and suggestions which means you will have no issues in the future listening to participants here as they are the one seeing and adding more value to your project. You said you have added a new features of "number of views" and if I may ask you a question, is the number of views the number of times you personally log or load the page or what  because I noticed it when I load the page it counts my own view as per I loaded the page which should not be so because if it counts seller own loading, how would seller know the actual number of people that have viewed his or her own uploaded file for sale. It looks funny how only seller would be loading his page to see how many has viewed but only his or her own loading is counting as number of views. It is misleading and not genuine. I would advise this is looked into so as to stop misleading potential sellers on your platform because it does not reflect what you have said as the new features. It is misleading.

[bnbstorm]

Feature Update:

We have added a new feature "Number of Views" for each product. Now sellers and buyers can check total traffic on a product. It can help sellers to understand how their product is performing. And also can help sellers to understand how famous a product is. "Number of Views" on each product show total times a product page is opened. While "Number of Downloads" shows total number of times when someone paid to get that product. We are continuously improving our service to serve Bitcoin community.

This is good as improvement on your end shows you hid to advise and suggestions which means you will have no issues in the future listening to participants here as they are the one seeing and adding more value to your project. You said you have added a new features of "number of views" and if I may ask you a question, is the number of views the number of times you personally log or load the page or what  because I noticed it when I load the page it counts my own view as per I loaded the page which should not be so because if it counts seller own loading, how would seller know the actual number of people that have viewed his or her own uploaded file for sale. It looks funny how only seller would be loading his page to see how many has viewed but only his or her own loading is counting as number of views. It is misleading and not genuine. I would advise this is looked into so as to stop misleading potential sellers on your platform because it does not reflect what you have said as the new features. It is misleading.

Total Number of views represents total number of time a page is loaded. Also you are correct it also counts seller visits in views as well. But we cannot exclude seller visits from views because it will require us to log seller information like IP addresses and then remove visits from their IP addresses.
It is not difficult to implement but this logging of information is against our anonymous policy "WE DO NOT COLLECT ANY PERSONAL USER DATA". So total Number of views metric is just to give an estimation to seller about their product. And seller will definitely know either views are from himself refreshing multiple time or from buyers.

[MAAManda]

I just saw and realized the existence of this platform after @Royse777 launched a Signature Campaign, @bnbstorm, I think a signature campaign will not be enough, it would be better if apart from the signature campaign, you launch a review campaign too and see how people respond in this forum related the platform you are running on.

Here are the examples: Zenland | Utopia Ecosystem | Satoshi Auction | Fryx Finance

[bnbstorm]

I just saw and realized the existence of this platform after @Royse777 launched a Signature Campaign, @bnbstorm, I think a signature campaign will not be enough, it would be better if apart from the signature campaign, you launch a review campaign too and see how people respond in this forum related the platform you are running on.

Here are the examples: Zenland | Utopia Ecosystem | Satoshi Auction | Fryx Finance

It is good idea we will look into it. Thanks

[bnbstorm]

ANN Thread graphics has been updated.

A Hack Attempt was made on https://selldefi.com. 1100+ Fake products/files were uploaded with some automated software while trying to manipulate system with every uploaded product. A mixture of XSS and SQL injection vulnerabilities were tried. Our input fields are sanitized according to latest security patches available. And we are glad to announce that all 1100+ fake products were deleted and our system is working fine and secure.

[bnbstorm]

ANN Thread graphics has been updated.

A Hack Attempt was made on https://selldefi.com. 1100+ Fake products/files were uploaded with some automated software while trying to manipulate system with every uploaded product. A mixture of XSS and SQL injection vulnerabilities were tried. Our input fields are sanitized according to latest security patches available. And we are glad to announce that all 1100+ fake products were deleted and our system is working fine and secure.

Due to recent hack event we have added a spam control feature. This is a small number verification field where user enters a number shown in image. We did not use Google Captcha or any other service because these services collect data. Our current verification system generate images on server and after verification deletes them. There is no user info stored on servers. You can check added feature in screenshot below or can visit https://selldefi.com/

[digaran]

Hi, can we sell pornography items like pictures, videos etc? What happens if one uploads banned porn content?
What about copyrights?
I will post more after visiting your website.

Do you need remote support staff by any chance? I am willing to work with competitive salary.

[bnbstorm]

Hi, can we sell pornography items like pictures, videos etc? What happens if one uploads banned porn content?
What about copyrights?
I will post more after visiting your website.

Do you need remote support staff by any chance? I am willing to work with competitive salary.

We/Dev Team cannot look into uploaded files because they are saved in encrypted form on our server. But people can definitely report if they find any such stuff selling in this forum post and we will delete it. All they need to report is post a product link in comments of this thread and provide a reason to report. You can sell any product that belongs to you unless its not Child pornography or any such banned items. You can read our Terms of Service Here

Thank you for showing interest. Currently, we are not requiring more staff but once we will have burden of work we will surely contact you.

[digaran]

It's good and simple, however who is going to trust me as a seller if they don't know who I am, buyers can't tell if they are buying from me or someone else, therefore I can't build a reputation meaning I can never be trusted. Maybe I sell my item in a day and decide to sell another item in the next week, maybe a certain buyer is waiting for more products from me, how can they recognize me? Do I need to provide a link here every time for someone to know that they are dealing with me?

https://selldefi.com//20qjMVWPe9EZeLywr4pR#

Lol the above link is just for test,  I wish you could use something like lightning network to enable micro-transactions, that way we could sell an item 100times with a price of $2 per purchase amounting a total $200.

[logfiles]

Since according to your terms and conditions, you say a user must be above 18 years old and also in the same terms and conditions you mention that your service is fully anonymous, and that don't collect any user information, How do you go about ensuring that the users accessing your platform are indeed above 18 without collecting any user data?

[bnbstorm]

It's good and simple, however who is going to trust me as a seller if they don't know who I am, buyers can't tell if they are buying from me or someone else, therefore I can't build a reputation meaning I can never be trusted. Maybe I sell my item in a day and decide to sell another item in the next week, maybe a certain buyer is waiting for more products from me, how can they recognize me? Do I need to provide a link here every time for someone to know that they are dealing with me?

https://selldefi.com//20qjMVWPe9EZeLywr4pR#

Lol the above link is just for test,  I wish you could use something like lightning network to enable micro-transactions, that way we could sell an item 100times with a price of $2 per purchase amounting a total $200.

Usually sellers have profiles on some platforms. Like for example seller can be a Youtuber and they can sell their code to their viewers by adding a selldefi link in description of each video. Their viewers can buy whatever code they want and seller do not need to process each payment and deliver product to everyone.

We are working to accept lighting.

Since according to your terms and conditions, you say a user must be above 18 years old and also in the same terms and conditions you mention that your service is fully anonymous, and that don't collect any user information, How do you go about ensuring that the users accessing your platform are indeed above 18 without collecting any user data?

It is important for business to write all rules and terms. And then try their best to implement them. These terms are useful in legal processes. Some countries or network providers can ban our website because they think we sell products to minors. But once we have written it in our Terms of Services everyone knows we only offer our services to adults only. Also if we ever know someone is abiding by our rules then we can delete their products. For example if an underage Twitch streamer (less than 18 yo) puts SellDefi link to some magazine or game coupons for selling to their viewers then we can delete their product because we can find that streamer is not 18 years old.

[mendace]

What kind of marketing services do you provide?

I find your service innovative, finally something "new" that works with Bitcoin.  I would like to discuss with you in private can I send a DM?

[digaran]

I really liked the idea of having an option to sell multiple items, really useful. Thanks man, I wish you the best and hope to see more features, improvements in the future.
Don't worry too much about building a reputation, it's a slow process but you'll get there, just give it time.
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sorry for the following joke.

Wow amazing, guys hurry! Buy my new images, moon being destroyed by nuke explosion, devastating scene. You could buy and see the images from this link: https://selldefi.com//gLPQZOpnel9raKBzyVXv
They are really cheap right now and limited, go go go and buy them all before someone make a NFT out of them. Don't say I didn't tell you.🤑🤑

[bnbstorm]

What kind of marketing services do you provide?

I find your service innovative, finally something "new" that works with Bitcoin.  I would like to discuss with you in private can I send a DM?

Thank you.
Yes sure you can dm.

I really liked the idea of having an option to sell multiple items, really useful. Thanks man, I wish you the best and hope to see more features, improvements in the future.
Don't worry too much about building a reputation, it's a slow process but you'll get there, just give it time.
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sorry for the following joke.

Wow amazing, guys hurry! Buy my new images, moon being destroyed by nuke explosion, devastating scene. You could buy and see the images from this link: https://selldefi.com//gLPQZOpnel9raKBzyVXv
They are really cheap right now and limited, go go go and buy them all before someone make a NFT out of them. Don't say I didn't tell you.🤑🤑

Thank you for appreciation. Yes we will build reputation with time.

Good luck with your art. Try sharing your link on social media, Hopefully you will sell it.

[mendace]

Thank you.
Yes sure you can dm.

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