German Bundesliga Season 22/23 - Discussion & Prediction Thread

[bullrun2024bro]

German Bundesliga Season 22/23

(A self-moderated discussion and prediction thread)



Since the old Bundesliga thread has unfortunately turned into a mega spam-fest where reasonable discussions or chats are almost impossible, I took the chance to open another self-moderated thread.

This thread is supposed to be about the following topics:

1. Casual discussions about the Bundesliga and its clubs
2. Betting & tips on individual Bundesliga matches and/or parlays
3. Transfer rumours about Bundesliga players and coaches

To prevent this thread from ending up in a spam-fest as well, there will be some clear rules. This means that posts that do not comply with the rules (especially generic shitposts for signature campaigns) will be consequently deleted.

In this thread the discussion should be in the spotlight, so please only post if you are really interested in the Bundesliga - otherwise please check out the spamthreads.

Thread rules & guidelines:

1. No off-topic
2. No pyramid quotes (if you're quoting more than three people your post will be deleted. Use ~ or -snip- for longer quotes.)
3. No posts of generic quality (shitposts)
4. No defamation
5. No trolling
6. Good posts will be rewarded by me. So give your post some thought and get some merit.

[bullrun2024bro]

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[seek3r]

Great idea, I support that by 100%.

It was just annoying because ucould hardly have discussions/conversations. Example: ugo to a post via quote to have a serious conversation about it and there is never a reply.
This can depend on several factors. 1. the post got lost in all the spam posts or 2. the quoted post was itself a "spam post" to get on its post count for signature bounties.

A self-moderated thread should solve the problem - though that means some work for u. Thanks @bullrun2020bro 

[cygan]

when i saw the thread title, my first thought was... we already have a bundesliga thread, what the hell does bullrun2020bro want with a second one?
but when i visited the thread and read his 'why', i find this more than appropriate and a very great idea to create this self moderated thread.

but now to the actual topic...
today it is finally time and it goes on immediately with a top game tonight. bayern guests today (with its new goalkeeper Y. Sommer) in leipzig. a game on the same level, whereby bayern has the better individualists and goes into the game as the favorite. with an away win bayern münchen can expand the lead over rb leipzig to another 3 points (then 9 pts.)

[mole0815]

I think that's a good idea and I also wish good luck with the new thread.

Since my limited soccer knowledge is already too little for one place on the forum I will concentrate on the German language version.
But who knows - Maybe I'll come by again sometime.

So that it does not immediately drift into the OT yet a tip from me to today's game. Leipzig will win (3-1)

[Soonandwaite]

today i saw an interview with marco rose on ntv. Marco Rose has a lot of respect for the munich team, but he also thinks he has a chance of winning
tonight's top game against the team from munich. a few days ago, I bet on a bayern victory in the bundesliga betting game. today, after the interview,
i even think the leipzig team can pull off a surprise. personally, i would be very happy with a draw.
a victory for the leipzig team, however, would make the Bundesliga even more exciting.

if you don't have DAZN you can also watch the match live on Sat1. ( free tv )

[Trofo]

I am generally against self moderated threads but including this one on watch list to see how it will develop. I am also against multiple threads on same topic but that is another problem. I am personally in dilemma what to do with my Premier League and La Liga themes since they have been quite full of spam and I am doing all my discussing on pool threads that are closed to non participants. Something needs to be done but I haven't found perfect solution yet. Keeping an eye here in hopes to get some inspiration, or more probably I will just close those threads sooner than later which is a shame since they have a lot of history and some good conversations as well.

So that it does not immediately drift into the OT yet a tip from me to today's game. Leipzig will win (3-1)

We do want to stay on topic at least on first page My bet for today is both to score and I found the odds @1.52 for it which is more generous than I expected. I will go that far to say I expect both teams to score at least 2 goals but I have a feeling Bayern will edge it with result like 2:3 in the end.

[bullrun2024bro]

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Thanks for your support guys, let's see how it goes. I am confident that together we can build a cool and fun place for everything related to the Bundesliga. 

I am personally in dilemma what to do with my Premier League and La Liga themes since they have been quite full of spam and I am doing all my discussing on pool threads that are closed to non participants. Something needs to be done but I haven't found perfect solution yet.

Let's try to set a good example with this thread. Maybe it works out and we can manage to reduce the spam at least a little bit. And if it doesn't work, we will have to look for other solutions, I guess. But let's give this one a shot first.


Anyway, enough introductory talk, let's get on with the Bundesliga: Today's top match between RB Leipzig and FC Bayern just ended in a 1-1 draw a few minutes ago and I think that's probably a fair result overall. In the first half, I really felt FC Bayern were clearly the better team - but after the half-time, RB improved significantly, so the draw is okay in the end, tbh.

For the excitement in the Bundesliga, the draw is certainly not a bad result either, because if Freiburg scores a win tomorrow, they can get as close as two points to FC Bayern.

That's the schedule for tomorrow, plenty of exciting matches.



Source: Bundesliga, Google Results

Personally, I am very interested to see how Schalke 04 will start the second half of the season. After the disastrous first half, it's time to turn things around rather quickly if they don't want to be relegated to the second Bundesliga once again. It is quite remarkable what has happened to this great club with such a long tradition.

[Balmain]

Nice Thread, I like the rules and details in the thread. I haven't watched or followed the Bundesliga for a long time. There was a Leipzig and Bayern Munich match yesterday, I watched a little bit, after all, it's a good match. RB Leipzig drew at home. Leipzig is still promising. The points for the top positions in the league are very close to each other. Bayern Munich opened the goal at 37 minutes. Shortly after the second half started, Leipzig caught the draw and they evened the situation. Even though a foul was expected, I think the position was clean.

[Unknown01]

I also like the idea of ​​this topic, because the other topics are almost exclusively used for spamming.

The games today were really crazy, Köln (Cologne) 7-1 or Wolfsburg 6-0 were high-scoring games. Bayern München (Munich) is currently weak and they are playing badly, actually Leipzig had a big chance to win the game. Somehow I feel like Bayern are currently missing the good old players.

[seek3r]

I also like the idea of ​​this topic, because the other topics are almost exclusively used for spamming.

The games today were really crazy, Köln (Cologne) 7-1 or Wolfsburg 6-0 were high-scoring games. Bayern München (Munich) is currently weak and they are playing badly, actually Leipzig had a big chance to win the game. Somehow I feel like Bayern are currently missing the good old players.

Yeah the opener yesterday was not what I was expecting. Especially Kimmich and Goretzka (Note 4 & 5) disappointed. In the meantime, Choupo-Moting just keeps on scoring... that should be interesting in the future.

The Bremen game was really hard to watch as a fan... originally I would have gone to Cologne - now I'm glad I didn't.
It will be exciting for the next games - I hope that the mistakes from the first 45min will remain as an one-time incident.

Besides Bremen, Freiburg was the biggest surprise for me. Who would have predicted that they would be shot out of the stadium like that? Let's see what the two Sunday-games will bring...

[seek3r]

Today winning for Eintracht Frankfurt and Union Berlin made a good change in the German Bundesliga table. Now seeing Frankfurt and Berlin so close with 5 point difference behind Bayern Munich. I knew it was never going to end until Bundesliga's top 4 standing undergoes an adjustment to its usual state which is, Bayern, and a few other top clubs likes, like Frankfurt, Leipzig, and Dortmund, followed by few others.

Can you please leave us alone if you are just here for post hunting? This quoted Post of @Docnaster is the perfect example why this thread exist!
Just a random post with zero reference to any posts before. If you go to the other Bundesliga thread with the 34345345 pages you only see posts like this. <_<

@bullrun2020bbro: I think you will delete his post, so I quoted it again, so that you at least understand the reference. Maybe he will reply to it though - but from past experience I would say that won't happen!


And now: do not get angry and back to the topic: BUNDESLIGA!

[bullrun2024bro]

The games today were really crazy, Köln (Cologne) 7-1 or Wolfsburg 6-0 were high-scoring games. Bayern München (Munich) is currently weak and they are playing badly, actually Leipzig had a big chance to win the game. Somehow I feel like Bayern are currently missing the good old players.

The weekend's games were completely bonkers, if you ask me. As a FC Bayern fan, I was not only disappointed about the 1:1 against RB Leipzig, but also that FC Köln literally blew Bremen out of the stadium with a score of 7:1, LOL. My bet that both teams would score came off. But a result like that? WTF.

Nevertheless, there was also quite a surprise for me personally. Despite the crazy results, I was able to win the matchday in our German Bundesliga betting game and win a 2 mBTC free bet on Betnomi. That makes the weak performance of FC Bayern very easy to forget, haha.

The Bundesliga table currently looks like this. FC Bayern leads the table with 35 points, followed by Eintracht Frankfurt, Union Berlin and SC Freiburg with 30 points each. IMHO, none of these three rivals will finish on a Champions League spot at the end of the season, but we'll see. Will be more likely something like RB Leipzig, Dortmund and Gladbach?



Source: Bundesliga, Google Search

Don't miss: The next matchday already starts tomorrow, as there are also matches on Tuesday and Wednesday this week.

[bullrun2024bro]

Tonight we continue with the 17th matchday of the Bundesliga and the following matches are scheduled:



Source: Google, Bundesliga Spieltag 17

On paper, it should be two easy wins for RB Leipzig and FC Bayern today. But at Bayern in particular, it's hardly been about football in recent days, but rather about the tiresome goalkeeper discussion, which peaked yesterday with the sacking of goalkeeper coach Toni Tapalović. As a reason, irreconcilable differences with the rest of the coaching team were cited by the media. If you ask me, a very unfortunate end for a co-trainer who had been working with Bayern (and Manuel Neuer ofc) since 2011.

But perhaps now is exactly the right time for the team to finally get back to normal and focus fully on the games in the second half of the season (Neuer is injured anyway until the end of the season, why are we having this goalkeeper discussion at all?). I mean there are tough opponents waiting in the Champions League - you simply can't afford discussions off the pitch tbh.

And concerning the Leipzig game: Probably a 5:0 or something? Pretty, pretty sure Schalke getting smashed today.  

[cygan]

as reported today by the german sports magazine kicker, the transfer of Konrad Laimer (rb leipzig) to bayern münchen has now been completed. the austrian international is considered to be Julian Nagelsmann's desired player and will then move on a free transfer after the end of this season ... nothing is known yet about the duration of the contract.
thus one can now also claim that bayern remains true to its strategy and continues to weaken the competition...
https://www.kicker.de/laimer-hat-den-vertrag-bei-bayern-unterschrieben-934312/artikel

[Blawpaw]

I'll leave my tips for some of today's games:


MAINZ 05 vs DORTMUND

I believe the most likely scenario for this match will be for both teams to score at least one goal. I expect to see a very balanced match. Even so, the two squads usually go for the attacking strategy, where goal opportunities arise quite easily. I should note that the market Both team Score was the winner in the last two matches played by Mainz and in four of the last six official matches for Dortmund. Thus, a very open match is expected, with goal situations on both sides.

Both Teams Score

FREIBURG vs FRANKFURT

I believe the most likely scenario for this match will be the existence of several goals. In addition to the Eintracht Frankfurt team presenting better arguments, both individual and collective, for this game, Freiburg is going through a very good phase at the offensive level in home matches. Having that said, I believe risking in favor of the Above 2.5 Goals is a good option.

Above 2.5 Goals

[bullrun2024bro]

as reported today by the german sports magazine kicker, the transfer of Konrad Laimer (rb leipzig) to bayern münchen has now been completed. the austrian international is considered to be Julian Nagelsmann's desired player and will then move on a free transfer after the end of this season

I had already read a few weeks ago that Laimer had a great interest in a Bayern transfer next summer. Pretty interesting that the transfer went so quickly in the end. But honestly it's starting to get pretty tough when it comes to the Bayern midfield. Top-class players everywhere. It will be pretty exciting to see whether some players leave the club in the summer and ofc who will be in the starting squad next season.



Source: transfermarket.com, Bayern

thus one can now also claim that bayern remains true to its strategy and continues to weaken the competition...

Haha, the everlasting argument of Bayern's opponents: Bayern buys the top players of the closest rivals in order to weaken them.

MAINZ 05 vs DORTMUND

Both Teams Score

Good bet. And a pretty interesting game tbh. Fortunately, Dortmund still managed to score in the 90+3 minute and thus come a little closer to Bayern. Very good for the league, if you ask me.

FREIBURG vs FRANKFURT

Above 2.5 Goals

Yikes, close call. I would have expected more goals here, but in the end the 1:1 is probably a fair result for both teams. Sucks for your bet though. Haha.

[Blawpaw]

I'll leave my tips for some of today's games:


MAINZ 05 vs DORTMUND

I believe the most likely scenario for this match will be for both teams to score at least one goal. I expect to see a very balanced match. Even so, the two squads usually go for the attacking strategy, where goal opportunities arise quite easily. I should note that the market Both team Score was the winner in the last two matches played by Mainz and in four of the last six official matches for Dortmund. Thus, a very open match is expected, with goal situations on both sides.

Both Teams Score

FREIBURG vs FRANKFURT

I believe the most likely scenario for this match will be the existence of several goals. In addition to the Eintracht Frankfurt team presenting better arguments, both individual and collective, for this game, Freiburg is going through a very good phase at the offensive level in home matches. Having that said, I believe risking in favor of the Above 2.5 Goals is a good option.

Above 2.5 Goals

Down to the Final Results:

MAINZ 05 1 vs DORTMUND 2

Both Teams Score

WIN

FREIBURG 1 vs FRANKFURT 1

Above 2.5 Goals

LOSS

Unfortunately, I wasn't too lucky with my tips for the 25th of January. Got half right and half wrong, but the odds did not helped me and ended up not recovering the initial investment.

[Ulven]

The 29-year-old Brooks signed a deal through June 2024, Hoffenheim said  in a statement. Kicker magazine reported Hoffenheim paid 300,000 euros ($327,000) for the transfer.

After the resumption of the league, Hoffenheim did not achieve any positive result, a draw against Stuttgart and a loss against union.

I think Brooks would be an additional solution for a club at the moment, right?

[bullrun2024bro]

Unfortunately, I wasn't too lucky with my tips for the 25th of January. Got half right and half wrong, but the odds did not helped me and ended up not recovering the initial investment.

Too bad buddy. What are you picks for the next matchday? I guess you're betting again, right?

RB Leipzig vs. VfB Stuttgart tomorrow X @4.80 sounds pretty interesting too me. As inconsistent as Leipzig has performed so far, I think the game could well end in a draw.

I think Brooks would be an additional solution for a club at the moment, right?

Pretty excited to see Brooks back in the Bundesliga again, tbh. IMHO, he significantly strengthens Hoffenheim's defence and I can also imagine that he will already be in the starting line-up on Saturday.

I mean, he knows the Bundesliga, is an experienced central defender and hopes to get more playing time after his time in Benfica.


In general: Guys please make sure that you participate in the discussion. Don't quote yourself, quote others and talk to each other.