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January 27, 2023, 09:05:51 AM
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It's not about chatgpt doing your work, it's about how we would find money after that. Lets be real, the industry age allowed less people to be employed afterwards, which meant that there would be less people needed in a factory, and the assembly line made it even harder to find a job there, so blue collar work became less and less paid job. Something that you could make a living from commonly, became harder.

But that opened the doors for people who had college degrees to find more and more jobs, and nowadays that is not good neither. Someone who has 2 masters degrees may never be able to buy a house in some cities, and now chatgpt will make it harder. So, where will we find money to survive? Where will our income come?
The unemployment problem that we have today is very much because everything is getting automated and that's basically getting even bigger with AI, I think it's a big problem. The industry part was true and that caused a big trouble, right now there are too many people who are unemployed and the older you get the harder it would be for you to find any job at all.

But at the same time, we are talking about now very young people not finding a job that easily, only people between 30-50 can find jobs easier than others, if you are a new graduate then it will be very hard already and now with AI getting bigger, it will become even worse. This will make bosses and CEO's richer, and hundreds of thousands more people unemployed.

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January 27, 2023, 01:06:43 PM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/chatgpt-ai-economy-automation-jobs/672767/

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In the next five years, it is likely that AI will begin to reduce employment for college-educated workers. As the technology continues to advance, it will be able to perform tasks that were previously thought to require a high level of education and skill. This could lead to a displacement of workers in certain industries, as companies look to cut costs by automating processes. While it is difficult to predict the exact extent of this trend, it is clear that AI will have a significant impact on the job market for college-educated workers. It will be important for individuals to stay up to date on the latest developments in AI and to consider how their skills and expertise can be leveraged in a world where machines are increasingly able to perform many tasks.

I'm personally skeptical on the ability of machine learning/neural networks to fully replace humans. I think it's more likely that it will boost productivity by performing the more simple and routine tasks, but there will still be the need for human touch. People will lose jobs because now a professional will be able to do the work of 2 professionals, but AI won't do the work of all professionals.
Do you have a link to the article behind a paywall / need-to-register?

Regarding your statement: Sure, nobody would argue that a complete replacement of "white collar work" is imminent. But I would 100% agree that many jobs are indeed becoming obsolete over the next few years, because they can be managed by just one person with the help of A"I".
All things take time and some industries will take longer to change, but it will happen.
New opportunities will (already are) arising of this, including new job opportunities, but I kind of doubt it will be enough to replace the old ones.

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January 28, 2023, 08:16:07 AM
Last edit: January 28, 2023, 09:59:22 AM by mindrust
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This is the biggest step to destroy the middle class. I mean the middle class weren’t alive much anyway but thanks to AI, job-wise whatever was left available for them will be gone soon.
Fear not however.
The Universal Basic Income will come to the rescue.
By 2030, everybody will be driving golf carts, eat insects, have their citizen scores and universal basic income. You won’t have to go to work. You will be at home watching netflix all day and your masters will send you $$$… as long as you keep eating them bugs.
Just don’t ever never demand to eat a damn steak.
Or we will have a problem.
Off to the gas chamber you freak! I zaid no meat!
Are you also a Klaus Schwab fan?
As I understand it, those nations that are used to resisting and not submitting to world leaders are now being destroyed.
And artificial intelligence will set limits for each resident for spending on certain needs.

Are you trying to insult me? No I am not a Klaus fan. I despise him but I also understand him somehow. You are right that most nations are basically slaves to wef and that's because almost every big international company is a wef member.

https://www.weforum.org/partners

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January 28, 2023, 01:24:53 PM
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The problem is that we often confuse learning systems/neural networks with artificial intelligence. These are completely different concepts and systems. And the goals are different.
ChatGPT can hardly be called an artificial intelligence or a "matrix" Smiley In fact, it is a huge repository of information that can find the right answers among trillions of blocks of information and formulate answers similar to human speech. A sort of Google search engine is a wrapped human-like interface for issuing search results.
Yes, neural networks and other technologies work here to collect and systematize primary information. But this system has no INTELLIGENCE.
I hope you have already seen this masterpiece: "The neural network was asked to draw a salmon swimming against the current. Well, she drew it."



In ChatGPT, the picture is much better, but the intelligence never appeared there. Since one of the areas I do is IT (development), and like everyone else I saw how ChatGPT "produces ready-made ideal code." I tried to set a task for him, something from the area "Write code so that when you click something, something opens somewhere." The system began to ask clarifying questions so that the problem statement was extremely accurately described in order to understand which "code from the knowledge base to take." If there is no clear statement of the problem, you will not receive any code. More precisely, if there is a place where there can be variability and you need to figure out the essence of the process yourself, ChatGPT will not help you. Therefore, if we talk about "replacement" - perhaps he will replace some of the "pioneers" of developers, who are essentially "translators" from human to programming language, not difficult tasks. Although I agree that as the system learns and the knowledge base accumulates, the level of "replacement" may rise

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January 28, 2023, 08:55:10 PM
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The problem is that we often confuse learning systems/neural networks with artificial intelligence. These are completely different concepts and systems. And the goals are different.
ChatGPT can hardly be called an artificial intelligence or a "matrix" Smiley In fact, it is a huge repository of information that can find the right answers among trillions of blocks of information and formulate answers similar to human speech. A sort of Google search engine is a wrapped human-like interface for issuing search results.
Yes, neural networks and other technologies work here to collect and systematize primary information. But this system has no INTELLIGENCE.
I hope you have already seen this masterpiece: "The neural network was asked to draw a salmon swimming against the current. Well, she drew it."

In ChatGPT, the picture is much better, but the intelligence never appeared there. Since one of the areas I do is IT (development), and like everyone else I saw how ChatGPT "produces ready-made ideal code." I tried to set a task for him, something from the area "Write code so that when you click something, something opens somewhere." The system began to ask clarifying questions so that the problem statement was extremely accurately described in order to understand which "code from the knowledge base to take." If there is no clear statement of the problem, you will not receive any code. More precisely, if there is a place where there can be variability and you need to figure out the essence of the process yourself, ChatGPT will not help you. Therefore, if we talk about "replacement" - perhaps he will replace some of the "pioneers" of developers, who are essentially "translators" from human to programming language, not difficult tasks. Although I agree that as the system learns and the knowledge base accumulates, the level of "replacement" may rise
You do not seem to understand what ChatGPT is and confuse it with generative-adversarial neural networks for generating pictures, such as Midjourney or Stable Diffusion.

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January 28, 2023, 09:24:19 PM
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Do you have a link to the article behind a paywall / need-to-register?

Regarding your statement: Sure, nobody would argue that a complete replacement of "white collar work" is imminent. But I would 100% agree that many jobs are indeed becoming obsolete over the next few years, because they can be managed by just one person with the help of A"I".
All things take time and some industries will take longer to change, but it will happen.
New opportunities will (already are) arising of this, including new job opportunities, but I kind of doubt it will be enough to replace the old ones.
Yes you are right, actually it will not remove all the white collar jobs maybe some of it yes we cannot deny the fact but most of us only see chatgpt but I saw many AI tools that is already been in the market such as CopyAI but the thing with this tool instead of removing the work to most of the writers and copywriters it becomes a tool to help them, and not all business owner want this tool they still need generic ones. What I mean is technology is advancing so are we, we cannot deny the fact that technology will replace some works but let us all use CCTV that at first a major threat to Guards but still it proves that a human can still be above machines and technology since we are the one who creates and uses it.
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January 29, 2023, 01:05:14 PM
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The problem is that we often confuse learning systems/neural networks with artificial intelligence. These are completely different concepts and systems. And the goals are different.
ChatGPT can hardly be called an artificial intelligence or a "matrix" Smiley In fact, it is a huge repository of information that can find the right answers among trillions of blocks of information and formulate answers similar to human speech. A sort of Google search engine is a wrapped human-like interface for issuing search results.
Yes, neural networks and other technologies work here to collect and systematize primary information. But this system has no INTELLIGENCE.
I hope you have already seen this masterpiece: "The neural network was asked to draw a salmon swimming against the current. Well, she drew it."

In ChatGPT, the picture is much better, but the intelligence never appeared there. Since one of the areas I do is IT (development), and like everyone else I saw how ChatGPT "produces ready-made ideal code." I tried to set a task for him, something from the area "Write code so that when you click something, something opens somewhere." The system began to ask clarifying questions so that the problem statement was extremely accurately described in order to understand which "code from the knowledge base to take." If there is no clear statement of the problem, you will not receive any code. More precisely, if there is a place where there can be variability and you need to figure out the essence of the process yourself, ChatGPT will not help you. Therefore, if we talk about "replacement" - perhaps he will replace some of the "pioneers" of developers, who are essentially "translators" from human to programming language, not difficult tasks. Although I agree that as the system learns and the knowledge base accumulates, the level of "replacement" may rise
You do not seem to understand what ChatGPT is and confuse it with generative-adversarial neural networks for generating pictures, such as Midjourney or Stable Diffusion.

Well, actually, I participated in the process of testing this system, I have been using it for my own purposes for a long time.
Explain what you wanted to invent, but, as always, did not express it very skillfully? Smiley
Surely you can tell how he can write lyrics, draw pictures and write music on his own? It's not Artificial Intelligence, don't worry Smiley Or did you mean something else? Then explain? Just not the classic answer of a person who read the title somewhere, he doesn’t understand, and with any more or less complex question he answers something like “Well, what will I explain to you if you don’t know anything about him” or “search the Internet, I don’t have time to explain such simple things" Smiley

If you start to study the subject area and not snatch out "beautifully sounding abbreviations", then it is possible that you will understand what it is about, and what, for example, Neural Networks, Deep Learning, Machine Learning, Artificial Intelligence, decision-making systems, and much more. And most importantly - the DIFFERENCE between these concepts Smiley

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Oh, I think I understand - did you decide that this example shows the work and essence of ChatGPT ? Smiley)))) no, I showed that such powerful systems, almost endowed with "intelligence", are just processing and projection of those primary data with which they were trained. And I will add - in this example, the system knows exactly what the salmon fish looks like and not its fillet, but it cannot really understand the essence of the issue and compare the need, and draws the most frequently downloaded and requested "tag" with other entities. And only by adding this "error" to the training dataset, the system will once ask - "can you draw a whole live fish or steak" Smiley
But by the way, the formation of answers and questions is a different technology, and it is called LLM - Large Language Model. Plus a deep learning system.

Well, about texts and pictures - this is all the result of the work of the deep learning system, Dall-E 2, this is an "engine" that works separately from ChatGPT, but supplies "content for answers"

In the GPT-3 version, the system was trained on 570 gigabytes of initial "knowledge". On the basis of this, about 200 billion parameters were formed. I can tell you a lot more, but I won’t waste time, you have the American Internet at your fingertips, the American ChatGPT - they will help you Smiley

 
Although I agree that ChatGPT is called "artificial intelligence", and the name of the company unambiguously flaunts "Open + AI" or open artificial intelligence.

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   -   You know, as long as it is made by man or invented by man, I am sure that in the end it will be affected by a man too. And that means that everything invented by man is mostly destroyed by man. For example, cars, there would be no accidents on the road if no cars were invented, the next is a process that was also invented by humans, but even though most people know that processed food is not healthy, they continue to enjoy it, as a result, many people get sick.

That article is no different from what we are talking about in this topic.

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January 29, 2023, 02:22:49 PM
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I'm personally skeptical on the ability of machine learning/neural networks to fully replace humans. I think it's more likely that it will boost productivity by performing the more simple and routine tasks, but there will still be the need for human touch. People will lose jobs because now a professional will be able to do the work of 2 professionals, but AI won't do the work of all professionals.

AI can only collect data from the internet to gather information to provide the best result. But human mind is so complicated and wonderful that they will come up with a new idea every day. Maybe not every day, but you get the point. In order to teach the AI to do that new thing, you have to teach it first. So yeah, we will always need the human touch. And everything has a limit, so does AI. So when it run out of new things, we have to come up with that new idea.
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January 29, 2023, 03:03:55 PM
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It's not about chatgpt doing your work, it's about how we would find money after that. Lets be real, the industry age allowed less people to be employed afterwards, which meant that there would be less people needed in a factory, and the assembly line made it even harder to find a job there, so blue collar work became less and less paid job. Something that you could make a living from commonly, became harder.

But that opened the doors for people who had college degrees to find more and more jobs, and nowadays that is not good neither. Someone who has 2 masters degrees may never be able to buy a house in some cities, and now chatgpt will make it harder. So, where will we find money to survive? Where will our income come?
The unemployment problem that we have today is very much because everything is getting automated and that's basically getting even bigger with AI, I think it's a big problem. The industry part was true and that caused a big trouble, right now there are too many people who are unemployed and the older you get the harder it would be for you to find any job at all.

But at the same time, we are talking about now very young people not finding a job that easily, only people between 30-50 can find jobs easier than others, if you are a new graduate then it will be very hard already and now with AI getting bigger, it will become even worse. This will make bosses and CEO's richer, and hundreds of thousands more people unemployed.
Problem is that people are choosing over-saturated professions. A lot of people finish university and want to enter entry-level jobs in professions like laws, finance, engineering and so on but they are unable to find and then blame older people and technological progress.
Who wants to become a carpenter? Who wants to become a plumber? Who wants to become an electrician? Who wants to become pavers installer? No one, while the older people in these fields are retiring and demand & salary for skilled workers is increasing. It's also easier to get entry-level positions with higher than entry-level office jobs payment.


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Ah, coincidentally I tried and tested this website a week ago, debating with my friend whether or not this ChatGPT is overhyped. After testing various tasks, such as writing a couple of paragraphs up to create an essay. I can say that this program is only a text spinner plus. You'll get caught fast if your editor has the skill/experience to catch plagiarism. The content itself is good, but it just copy-paste-and-spin/replaces here and there. It is much more like an art AI that creates artworks from images created by humans. So maybe this kind of AI will destabilize dumb works, but its capability is far from human.

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Ah, coincidentally I tried and tested this website a week ago, debating with my friend whether or not this ChatGPT is overhyped. After testing various tasks, such as writing a couple of paragraphs up to create an essay. I can say that this program is only a text spinner plus. You'll get caught fast if your editor has the skill/experience to catch plagiarism. The content itself is good, but it just copy-paste-and-spin/replaces here and there. It is much more like an art AI that creates artworks from images created by humans. So maybe this kind of AI will destabilize dumb works, but its capability is far from human.

I have seen it writing near perfect code. When you don’t like a certain part, it modifies that part and comes  up with a better one. It is definitely not a copy/paste search engine.

In the end it is just a tool and can be as smart as its user.

When you tell it to write a poem, it will bring a crap generic poem. When you give it lots of details it will write a way more detailed and original poem.

Even if it was a damn search engine, it is miles faster than google and actually getting shit done. (Google only points you the way and nowadays it is not even good at it)

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The problem is that we often confuse learning systems/neural networks with artificial intelligence. These are completely different concepts and systems. And the goals are different.
ChatGPT can hardly be called an artificial intelligence or a "matrix" Smiley In fact, it is a huge repository of information that can find the right answers among trillions of blocks of information and formulate answers similar to human speech. A sort of Google search engine is a wrapped human-like interface for issuing search results.
Yes, neural networks and other technologies work here to collect and systematize primary information. But this system has no INTELLIGENCE.
I hope you have already seen this masterpiece: "The neural network was asked to draw a salmon swimming against the current. Well, she drew it."



In ChatGPT, the picture is much better, but the intelligence never appeared there. Since one of the areas I do is IT (development), and like everyone else I saw how ChatGPT "produces ready-made ideal code." I tried to set a task for him, something from the area "Write code so that when you click something, something opens somewhere." The system began to ask clarifying questions so that the problem statement was extremely accurately described in order to understand which "code from the knowledge base to take." If there is no clear statement of the problem, you will not receive any code. More precisely, if there is a place where there can be variability and you need to figure out the essence of the process yourself, ChatGPT will not help you. Therefore, if we talk about "replacement" - perhaps he will replace some of the "pioneers" of developers, who are essentially "translators" from human to programming language, not difficult tasks. Although I agree that as the system learns and the knowledge base accumulates, the level of "replacement" may rise

Perhaps the picture you provided was generated by the "midjourney" neural network for artists.  I would not draw conclusions about the failure of neural networks based on one picture ...

Firstly, neural networks appeared relatively recently.  For example, the "midjourney" neural network has four versions.  And the last - version 4, it is the most advanced in technical terms.  And it is quite possible that this most advanced version of the neural network already perceives the essence of salmon not in the form of canned food, but in the form of live fish. 

Secondly, at present, neural networks are not able to directly interact with the real world.  The neural network only knows about salmon from people.  The neural network is guided by information from the Internet. 

When the neural network connects directly to the real world through a video camera system, it will be able to see a live salmon and understand that it is he who swims in the river, and not canned food. 

Thirdly, you need to be able to communicate with neural networks.  An experienced user of neural networks is able to explain the neural network - what kind of picture he wants to get from it.

 
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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/chatgpt-ai-economy-automation-jobs/672767/

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In the next five years, it is likely that AI will begin to reduce employment for college-educated workers. As the technology continues to advance, it will be able to perform tasks that were previously thought to require a high level of education and skill. This could lead to a displacement of workers in certain industries, as companies look to cut costs by automating processes. While it is difficult to predict the exact extent of this trend, it is clear that AI will have a significant impact on the job market for college-educated workers. It will be important for individuals to stay up to date on the latest developments in AI and to consider how their skills and expertise can be leveraged in a world where machines are increasingly able to perform many tasks.

I'm personally skeptical on the ability of machine learning/neural networks to fully replace humans. I think it's more likely that it will boost productivity by performing the more simple and routine tasks, but there will still be the need for human touch. People will lose jobs because now a professional will be able to do the work of 2 professionals, but AI won't do the work of all professionals.
Actually, nowadays many things have been replaced by machines. When it comes to education issues, before we needed to buy books to learn something related to education or whatever we needed, now we just need to open Google to learn and study whatever we need. It's as if right now we don't need books to study, we just have to buy an electronic device in the form of a cellphone or laptop and then access all of that. And now we don't need teachers, just ask on google, and google is ready to answer everything we want.

Maybe five years from now, the sophisticated tools you mentioned can also replace many things, thereby reducing jobs, or human services are needed only a little.

But there are important things that need human services to teach them, one of which is morality. Because this does not need theory, but requires direct practice from the teacher.

Another simple thing, before it required a lot of farmers to work a piece of land, now there are machines that can only be done by one person.

I don't talk too much about technology, because technological problems have been going on for a long time, it's just that technology is getting more and more sophisticated.

Previously a person's sex could only be known after giving birth, now 4 to 5 months the human sex has been known. This is the sophistication of technology that can change everything, and can replace everything.

But machine technology still needs humans to control it. I think that machine technology cannot run optimally, let alone replace all human work. I think the more sophisticated the technology, the more human services are needed to operate it, at least to control the working motion of the machine itself. It's just that those who don't have the skills will be left behind, and lose their jobs.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/chatgpt-ai-economy-automation-jobs/672767/

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In the next five years, it is likely that AI will begin to reduce employment for college-educated workers. As the technology continues to advance, it will be able to perform tasks that were previously thought to require a high level of education and skill. This could lead to a displacement of workers in certain industries, as companies look to cut costs by automating processes. While it is difficult to predict the exact extent of this trend, it is clear that AI will have a significant impact on the job market for college-educated workers. It will be important for individuals to stay up to date on the latest developments in AI and to consider how their skills and expertise can be leveraged in a world where machines are increasingly able to perform many tasks.

I'm personally skeptical on the ability of machine learning/neural networks to fully replace humans. I think it's more likely that it will boost productivity by performing the more simple and routine tasks, but there will still be the need for human touch. People will lose jobs because now a professional will be able to do the work of 2 professionals, but AI won't do the work of all professionals.

AI has been a buzz word for long time, I still remember Deep Blue "beating" Kasparov and all. But I do not think that most white collar work can be achieved even in the next decade. It may be a close collaborator to white collars, basically removing the need to do the repetitive bits of the work. I am kind of happy that google guesses half of the time what I am going to write... but still is only 50% Smiley

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https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/01/chatgpt-ai-economy-automation-jobs/672767/

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In the next five years, it is likely that AI will begin to reduce employment for college-educated workers. As the technology continues to advance, it will be able to perform tasks that were previously thought to require a high level of education and skill. This could lead to a displacement of workers in certain industries, as companies look to cut costs by automating processes. While it is difficult to predict the exact extent of this trend, it is clear that AI will have a significant impact on the job market for college-educated workers. It will be important for individuals to stay up to date on the latest developments in AI and to consider how their skills and expertise can be leveraged in a world where machines are increasingly able to perform many tasks.

I'm personally skeptical on the ability of machine learning/neural networks to fully replace humans. I think it's more likely that it will boost productivity by performing the more simple and routine tasks, but there will still be the need for human touch. People will lose jobs because now a professional will be able to do the work of 2 professionals, but AI won't do the work of all professionals.

AI has been a buzz word for long time, I still remember Deep Blue "beating" Kasparov and all. But I do not think that most white collar work can be achieved even in the next decade. It may be a close collaborator to white collars, basically removing the need to do the repetitive bits of the work. I am kind of happy that google guesses half of the time what I am going to write... but still is only 50% Smiley

This is just the beginning...

We are entering an era of technological singularity.  Technologies begin to develop so quickly that after a while a person will no longer understand the principle of their work. 

Suppose that after some time, the developers will enable the ChatGPT and midjourney neural networks to communicate directly (without human mediation).  These neural networks will invent a new language for communicating with each other and begin to evolve rapidly.  At the same time, a person will not understand either the language of communication of these neural networks, or the final result of their work. 

Human interaction with such systems is well described in Stanislav Lem's legendary novel "Solaris".

 
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AI has been a buzz word for long time, I still remember Deep Blue "beating" Kasparov and all. But I do not think that most white collar work can be achieved even in the next decade. It may be a close collaborator to white collars, basically removing the need to do the repetitive bits of the work. I am kind of happy that google guesses half of the time what I am going to write... but still is only 50% Smiley

Yes, it seems the most likely outcome is that AI will boost efficiency of existing workers rather than fully replacing them. Which still means that hundreds of millions will lose jobs. And if tech companies will have high profit margins due to boosted productivity, maybe high taxation and wealth redistribution will become more viable than it is now. Plus I think some entirely new job opportunities will be emerging with new technologies and trends, so humanity is not doomed like some people like to say.
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I have seen it writing near perfect code. When you don’t like a certain part, it modifies that part and comes  up with a better one. It is definitely not a copy/paste search engine.

In the end it is just a tool and can be as smart as its user.

When you tell it to write a poem, it will bring a crap generic poem. When you give it lots of details it will write a way more detailed and original poem.

I agree. The fact that ChatGPT is working flawlessly is extremely impressive. But in order to create a massive supply chain of data for AI, it also squeezes out human labor based on whatever aspect is a problem. I think to use human labor -> increase the risk of unemployment and job loss for workers correspondingly inhumane. And because it's a tool, it can create 2 sets of opposite faces with replaced code snippets. After all, AI is also a technology that allows humans to form and apply based on the end goal. Suddenly want to see the movie about rebellious robots. Lol

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February 01, 2023, 10:07:30 PM
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AI has been a buzz word for long time, I still remember Deep Blue "beating" Kasparov and all. But I do not think that most white collar work can be achieved even in the next decade. It may be a close collaborator to white collars, basically removing the need to do the repetitive bits of the work. I am kind of happy that google guesses half of the time what I am going to write... but still is only 50% Smiley

Yes, it seems the most likely outcome is that AI will boost efficiency of existing workers rather than fully replacing them. Which still means that hundreds of millions will lose jobs. And if tech companies will have high profit margins due to boosted productivity, maybe high taxation and wealth redistribution will become more viable than it is now. Plus I think some entirely new job opportunities will be emerging with new technologies and trends, so humanity is not doomed like some people like to say.

If you look globally, then the problem of Mankind is not in the lack of jobs, but in the slowdown in population growth and the lack of new undeveloped territories. 

The history of scientific and technological progress is directly related to the growth of the population of the planet Earth. 

However, this growth has been exponential.  The larger the population of the Earth, the more smart people among them, the more smart people, the more scientists, researchers, mathematicians, engineers, visionaries, futurologists, philosophers.  Currently, the growth of the world's population has begun to slow down. 

As a result, there was a risk of slowing down scientific and technological progress. 

However, neural networks will come to the aid of humanity!  Modern scientists will have tireless and smart assistants at their disposal to help make new scientific discoveries!

 
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February 02, 2023, 03:36:24 PM
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The problem is that we often confuse learning systems/neural networks with artificial intelligence. These are completely different concepts and systems. And the goals are different.
ChatGPT can hardly be called an artificial intelligence or a "matrix" Smiley In fact, it is a huge repository of information that can find the right answers among trillions of blocks of information and formulate answers similar to human speech. A sort of Google search engine is a wrapped human-like interface for issuing search results.
Yes, neural networks and other technologies work here to collect and systematize primary information. But this system has no INTELLIGENCE.
I hope you have already seen this masterpiece: "The neural network was asked to draw a salmon swimming against the current. Well, she drew it."



In ChatGPT, the picture is much better, but the intelligence never appeared there. Since one of the areas I do is IT (development), and like everyone else I saw how ChatGPT "produces ready-made ideal code." I tried to set a task for him, something from the area "Write code so that when you click something, something opens somewhere." The system began to ask clarifying questions so that the problem statement was extremely accurately described in order to understand which "code from the knowledge base to take." If there is no clear statement of the problem, you will not receive any code. More precisely, if there is a place where there can be variability and you need to figure out the essence of the process yourself, ChatGPT will not help you. Therefore, if we talk about "replacement" - perhaps he will replace some of the "pioneers" of developers, who are essentially "translators" from human to programming language, not difficult tasks. Although I agree that as the system learns and the knowledge base accumulates, the level of "replacement" may rise

That's one of the funniest things I've seen in a while.

I semi-agree on your statement about "intelligence" - it's just a complex term, and does not fully apply to what is considered intelligent in a human.
There are a lot of levels however, where it's already not possible to distinguish between an AI and a human creation - be that images or a text or any other sort of "creative" output.
With further adjustments / added filters and improved databases I think the gap towards something that feels identical to the interaction we would see from a human will become smaller and smaller and finally vanish. - Unless conscious efforts are made to preserve some sort of difference.

It doesn't matter that the way by which the output was reached has nothing to do with the way the "output" of a human works - If you cannot see the difference in the result anymore this will have massive impacts on human society. There's no way around it.

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