Unstoppable wallet {User experiences}

[Pmalek]

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Looking at the release notes, the reason why syncing is significantly faster is because Unstoppable Wallet has integrated Blockchair.com's API service. Judging by how they worded the update, users can still use the 'old' and slow P2P synchronization option. I am glad they did it. When I originally tested this wallet, it took a long time to sync and took up too much space on my phone. Hopefully, Bitcoin is just the beginning of many other networks that will be improved in this way. 

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[virasog]

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Looking at the release notes, the reason why syncing is significantly faster is because Unstoppable Wallet has integrated Blockchair.com's API service. Judging by how they worded the update, users can still use the 'old' and slow P2P synchronization option. I am glad they did it. When I originally tested this wallet, it took a long time to sync and took up too much space on my phone. Hopefully, Bitcoin is just the beginning of many other networks that will be improved in this way. 

Well they did mention in their version 0.37 update that there will be fast Bitcoin Sync and specifically mentioned for the bitcoin and bitcoin cash blockchains. However, i noticed that all other blockchain sync time is also considerably improved and the whole unstoppable wallets syncs within no time.

I think this update was much awaited and by far the best update in term of satisfying the user experience of using the app. Yes, there may be more better security updates in previous updates but those are all in the backend. This update will be mostly liked and noticed by everyone using the Unstoppable Wallet.

[Pmalek]

Well they did mention in their version 0.37 update that there will be fast Bitcoin Sync and specifically mentioned for the bitcoin and bitcoin cash blockchains. However, i noticed that all other blockchain sync time is also considerably improved and the whole unstoppable wallets syncs within no time.

I guess they are slowly working their way towards speeding up altcoin blockchains as well. Your reply is the opposite of what Charles-Tim said earlier. According to him, he now needs even more time to synchronize his Litecoin and Dash balances. Maybe it was just a temporary problem on his end or you have different assets, and some are now syncing faster, while others still aren't.   

[Charles-Tim]

I guess they are slowly working their way towards speeding up altcoin blockchains as well. Your reply is the opposite of what Charles-Tim said earlier. According to him, he now needs even more time to synchronize his Litecoin and Dash balances. Maybe it was just a temporary problem on his end or you have different assets, and some are now syncing faster, while others still aren't.   

I have not tested bitcoin cash on it before but it synchronized very fast when I tried it just now.

For litecoin, on my two mobile devices, it is not synchronizing at all now after I left it open for 5 minutes 0% synchronization. I tried it just now.

For dash, on both devices, it is very slow. The synchronization got to 26% after 5 minutes on the first device while 38% after 5 minutes on the second device. Also I tried it just now.

That is not the only problem if you have this kind of coins. If you want to send them, it can be pending for minutes and later become failed. It happened when I wanted to send litecoin in the past. I tried it there times before it was send successfully. The third time that I sent the coin, it was first pending for several minutes if not hours.

[Pmalek]

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I hope they can sort those issues out. The Unstoppable Wallet is a rare open-source occurrence in a sea of closed-source multi-coin software wallets in this industry. It would be too bad if they started losing their userbase because they can't get the basics right, like allowing people to sync their balances and make transactions properly. Fingers crossed.

[virasog]

For litecoin, on my two mobile devices, it is not synchronizing at all now after I left it open for 5 minutes 0% synchronization. I tried it just now.

There is no issue with my Litecoin and it instantly syncs once I open my unstoppable wallet. (Although i don't have much LTC in my wallet)

For dash, on both devices, it is very slow. The synchronization got to 26% after 5 minutes on the first device while 38% after 5 minutes on the second device. Also I tried it just now.

Previously I had ZEC selected in my wallet and it never syncs. I added dash today just to check and it also does not sync as shown in below screenshot. I don't know what could be the reason for this, maybe the unstoppable wallet has some issues syncing privacy coins 

[Charles-Tim]

There is no issue with my Litecoin and it instantly syncs once I open my unstoppable wallet. (Although i don't have much LTC in my wallet)

I noticed that BIP44 litecoin addresses are easier to synchronize with the blockchain, although it took up to 1 minutes before it did. I noticed that BIP 49 was the next. Followed by BIP84. While BIP 86 was the slowest that took more than 3 minutes to get to 26% just now and I did not wait for it to finish synchronizing.

You have coin on it. If you open the wallet often, likely you might not know the synchronizing issue. But if you just want to use it or enable it to be on your coin list, you will notice the issue. Litecoin transaction fee is low, can you transfer the coin and see if there is any issue as I had issue with it in the past with pending and failed transaction.

If you open your wallet daily, you may not know the issue, especially if you have the coin on your list and you have several coins in a way you are not seeing litecoin unless you scroll down. But if you leave your wallet for some days or a week without opening it, you will see the synchronizing issue.

I have a wallet on the two devices that I have left for like 2 months now, for litecoin they are not even synchronizing at all and showing a triangle in red. I mean on both devices.

[AprilioMP]

Unstoppable has released several versions after releasing version 0.37.0.
As of version 0.37.1, sync issues in Tron and Bitcoin. In version 0.37.2, updated bitcoin-kit and I want to say that Unstoppable wallet in version 0.37.3 is the final version for now regarding Solana token balance sync.

Version 0.37.3. Released in the last 2 days.

[dkbit98]

Unstoppable has released several versions after releasing version 0.37.0.
As of version 0.37.1, sync issues in Tron and Bitcoin. In version 0.37.2, updated bitcoin-kit and I want to say that Unstoppable wallet in version 0.37.3 is the final version for now regarding Solana token balance sync.

Instead of adding solana and other junk they should work more on adding coin control for Bitcoin, and that should not be such a hard thing to do.
I don't see anyone suggesting that on their github page, but it would be good thing to do if someone has github or reddit/discord account.

[AprilioMP]

Unstoppable has released several versions after releasing version 0.37.0.
As of version 0.37.1, sync issues in Tron and Bitcoin. In version 0.37.2, updated bitcoin-kit and I want to say that Unstoppable wallet in version 0.37.3 is the final version for now regarding Solana token balance sync.

Instead of adding solana and other junk they should work more on adding coin control for Bitcoin, and that should not be such a hard thing to do.
I don't see anyone suggesting that on their github page, but it would be good thing to do if someone has github or reddit/discord account.

Agreed. Adding coin control for Bitcoin if they are willing to do it, I don't think it's a hard thing to do. I also don't see anyone suggesting about it on their github.
Just try if coin control for Bitcoin is added to Unstoppable, maybe their Android version of the wallet will be at the top of other wallets that support more than one coin.

Is it possible that there are no issues coming from github so they are not focusing on coin control for Bitcoin?
If we were the ones to suggest coin controls for Bitcoin, would they make that suggestion a priority and be executed?

[Charles-Tim]

Is it possible that there are no issues coming from github so they are not focusing on coin control for Bitcoin?
If we were the ones to suggest coin controls for Bitcoin, would they make that suggestion a priority and be executed?

Unstoppable wallet do not have replace-by-fee and child-pay-for-parent. No where to connect it to hardware wallet. No multisig function. I can not use it to spend coins with unconfirmed transaction. Unstoppable wallet have a long way to go if we are talking about bitcoin.

I just like how it is. Things are in a way I have my bitcoin separate from altcoins.

You can not use Unstoppable wallet offline as a cold wallet. Although, you can use it as a watch-only wallet.

There are still some syncing problem.

What I think should be fixed now is the litecoin, dash, zcash and other coins synching problem. Also to support other coins. I recommend a friend of mine the wallet. He complained to me that the wallet is not supporting doge and algo and some coins that he wants to gamble with. I think a wallet should support a coin that has a marketcap of over $1 billion.

There are many bitcoin open source wallets like Electrum and Sparrow, or Bluewallet and Samourai for mobile that Unstoppable wallet can not be compared with. Bitcoin users will prefer to use those bitcoin-only wallet that has more functionality. No milticoin wallet that has more functionality that those bitcoin-only wallet if it about bitcoin.

[AprilioMP]

There are many bitcoin open source wallets like Electrum and Sparrow, or Bluewallet and Samourai for mobile that Unstoppable wallet can not be compared with. Bitcoin users will prefer to use those bitcoin-only wallet that has more functionality. No milticoin wallet that has more functionality that those bitcoin-only wallet if it about bitcoin.

I am a Bitcoin user who does not use 1 wallet for all assets with various special considerations. Instead of using 1 wallet for all coins, placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

Unstoppable is only an option for storing altcoins. No more than that. Just like you, I recommend Unstoppable Wallet for people who still use Trust Wallet as a wallet for storing altcoins.

Just wish they had the initiative to add coin control instead of them putting focus on altcoin types.

[NotATether]

I am a Bitcoin user who does not use 1 wallet for all assets with various special considerations. Instead of using 1 wallet for all coins, placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

Most multi-coin wallets are made by companies that don't really put enough effort into security and auditing, and on top of that are also closed source. So the fact that we regularly hear about exploits against these kind of wallets is not surprising. Unstoppable Wallet is the exception, and it definitely is possible to make a wallet that can connect to bitcoin SPV nodes, EVM nodes, Polkadot, BSC, etc. but few people have the motivation for that.

[virasog]

I am a Bitcoin user who does not use 1 wallet for all assets with various special considerations. Instead of using 1 wallet for all coins, placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

That's the best thing you can do is to keep the Bitcoin in wallets that are made dedicated only for Bitcoin like Electrum, Sparrow wallet or the blue Wallet etc and keep the altcoins separately. I also follow a similar practice.

Most multi-coin wallets are made by companies that don't really put enough effort into security and auditing, and on top of that are also closed source. So the fact that we regularly hear about exploits against these kind of wallets is not surprising. Unstoppable Wallet is the exception, and it definitely is possible to make a wallet that can connect to bitcoin SPV nodes, EVM nodes, Polkadot, BSC, etc. but few people have the motivation for that.

People need to be educated about why they want to use or experiment with different multi-coin wallets (open source or closed source) ?
Simply if they use one wallet for the altcoins that is an Unstoppable wallet, that is enough to meet their needs and also have peace of mind that they are using a good trusted Open Source wallet. People mostly use trust wallets instead because of their extensive marketing but they need to know the difference and consequences of using an Open Source and a Closed source wallet.

[LoyceV]

placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

This can't be repeated often enough: none of this is going to help you if your system is compromised. Keep your Bitcoins in cold storage, and only use hot wallets for small payments.

[AprilioMP]

I am a Bitcoin user who does not use 1 wallet for all assets with various special considerations. Instead of using 1 wallet for all coins, placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

That's the best thing you can do is to keep the Bitcoin in wallets that are made dedicated only for Bitcoin like Electrum, Sparrow wallet or the blue Wallet etc and keep the altcoins separately. I also follow a similar practice.

Based on the experiences of other people that I have followed and studied myself through reading habits, it is true that the best practice in storing assets such as Bitcoin is not to put them together in one wallet. Electrum is very popular and has been tested by many users, following in the footsteps of those who have recognized the advantages of Electrum as the best wallet, it is not wrong even though I am not as knowledgeable as they are.

I have never used Sparrow, but I still use Bluewallet for storing BTC which is not in large quantities.
And Unstoppable, I only use it as a wallet to store altcoins.

placing Bitcoin in a dedicated Bitcoin wallet is the best choice such as Bluewallet (mobile) that you mentioned besides Electrum which is the top priority as a software wallet on Windows desktop.

Keep your Bitcoins in cold storage, and only use hot wallets for small payments.

I will store this command in memory indefinitely.

[virasog]

I have never used Sparrow, but I still use Bluewallet for storing BTC which is not in large quantities.
And Unstoppable, I only use it as a wallet to store altcoins.

You got the right point, that is storing BTC in Open Source software wallet only in small quantities. Ideally, it should be the amount that you need to transact with often otherwise if you're storing your bitcoins for the long term, hardware wallets / cold storage is the best option. For the altcoins too, you can store the ones that you need to trade often move in and out of the exchange and unstoppable wallet (in case you are a spot trader) and the investment of these altcoins should find a place in the hardware wallet.

I buy the coins on an exchange for trading in the spot, move them to my Unstoppable wallet, and then move them again to the exchange if i want to sell after a few days or sometimes use the Swap feature within the Unstoppable wallet to sell the coins for stable coins or bitcoin. The purpose of altcoin trading/investment should always be to increase your assets in stable coins or in bitcoins.

[taufik123]

Unstoppable has released several versions after releasing version 0.37.0.
As of version 0.37.1, sync issues in Tron and Bitcoin. In version 0.37.2, updated bitcoin-kit and I want to say that Unstoppable wallet in version 0.37.3 is the final version for now regarding Solana token balance sync.

Instead of adding solana and other junk they should work more on adding coin control for Bitcoin, and that should not be such a hard thing to do.
I don't see anyone suggesting that on their github page, but it would be good thing to do if someone has github or reddit/discord account.

Unstoppable Wallet Maybe they didn't want to go out of trend, and they added Solana because it was hype.
Multi-Chain wallets will always add every new network even if no one suggests it, they follow the trend but ignore the security on the network.

Now see how the Solana Blockchain has always been problematic and even to the point of death and need to restart.
This seems to have become a common case in Solana networks.

According to analysts, there is a design flaw in the Solana blockchain, Solana uses Proof Of History(PoH) consensus,
which is untested, while Proof Of Stake (PoS) has gone through a very long research and testing process.

source:
[1] https://cointelegraph.com/news/solana-network-outage-block-production-halted

[AprilioMP]

I have never used Sparrow, but I still use Bluewallet for storing BTC which is not in large quantities.
And Unstoppable, I only use it as a wallet to store altcoins.

I buy the coins on an exchange for trading in the spot, move them to my Unstoppable wallet, and then move them again to the exchange if i want to sell after a few days or sometimes use the Swap feature within the Unstoppable wallet to sell the coins for stable coins or bitcoin.

The process of using the exchange and wallet that you should do, I think is on the right track because you choose to go in and out of the exchange to the wallet because storing assets on the exchange is not a recommendation to do, even in small amounts.

When I use Unstoppable, the process is the same as yours. Buy altcoins on exchange and I move to wallet. Interested in selling because I have made a profit due to the increase in price, from wallet send again to exchange.

Since using the Unstoppable wallet, I have never used the swap feature available on this wallet.

The purpose of altcoin trading/investment should always be to increase your assets in stable coins or in bitcoins.

Depends on individual choice.

[virasog]

Unstoppable Wallet Maybe they didn't want to go out of trend, and they added Solana because it was hype.
Multi-Chain wallets will always add every new network even if no one suggests it, they follow the trend but ignore the security on the network.

Now see how the Solana Blockchain has always been problematic and even to the point of death and need to restart.
This seems to have become a common case in Solana networks.

For sure, they need to add Solana and other chains too. Since Unstoppable wallet is known to be a multi coin wallet, everyone expects that they will incorporate all the chains in it. Otherwise who want to store Solana will be disappointed. By the way, if the SOL blockchain has a problem, it has nothing to do with the Unstoppable wallet. It's the people choice whether they want to buy and store the SOL token in their wallet and by the looks of the SOL price, it seems that people are not being disturbed the the problematic solana blockchain.  

Since using the Unstoppable wallet, I have never used the swap feature available on this wallet.

I guess, although the swap feature is easy to use but it is more expensive as compared to moving the coins back to the exchanges and then sell those coins.