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January 30, 2023, 07:29:52 PM |
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Crypto gambling sites don't need to be completely transparent, but they need to be transparent to some extent in order to gain the trust of the public.
Some sites reveal their information to the public with good intentions while some other sites do so with nefarious intentions. Being transparent doesn't automatically translate to a trustworthy site.
Trust is earned little by little in various ways. This is why I feel that the team getting 100% doxxed won't solve the KYC issue.
Yes, because how many times have you seen projects stating that their team is a doxxed one? And yet, they still end up screwing their investors. It is not anymore an assurance that they will do things right. So even with gambling sites stating that their team is doxxed, they won't gain the credibility right away. It is thru the years how they will build their reputation in this business. A matter of years of existence where complaints are being handled promptly. Sometimes I feel that a project stating that their team is doxxed just wanted to get an approval from the community without so much effort, but people already learned their lessons in this market.
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January 30, 2023, 09:45:57 PM |
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Hi friends, I am still on the matter of helping a friend who wants to build his own gambling project, the question of the day is about KYC verification, why are popular crypto gambling platforms are not KYC verified themselves? I mean the team behind the online casino why are they not KYC verified and they ask for KYC instead?
Wouldn't it be more fair if they want to stay behind the veil and not as users KYC verification? If they are scared of the law/regulations it makes sense the are verified too, doxxed or something .
Anyway fast forward to my second question, will a gambling platform be more attractive for users if the team are 100% doxxed?
It's really not how it works. You have a pretty naive viewpoint if you think the staff of a financial company would expose themselves in such a way and why should people in a company not have privacy? KYC is designed to prevent financial abuse, it is not intended to share private information with the world. These companies and many even regulators in some countries might expect to see such personal details, but it is not fair and no worker would stick around to be put at risk like that. It's a complete liability to regular employees and would put them at much greater risk of things like kidnapping or blackmail if their information was shared, for no discernible benefit to anyone.
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uneng
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January 30, 2023, 09:55:55 PM |
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I guess regulated casinos (which require KYC from users) aren't anonymous. You have to investigate their licenses, so you will find more informations of where their headquarters is located, who is the responsible individual for the business, etc... Staff team doesn't expose themselves on their casino's website and social medias, but with some further research I believe it's possible to find the details you are looking for, because they shouldn't be completely hidden too.
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January 30, 2023, 11:29:41 PM |
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Doxxed team wont help new gambling platform.
1. We have already thousands of casinos. For a new casino it will tough to survive among others. Nearly impossible. 2. New casino needs a loud promotion campaign, welcome bonuses, something attractive and new, to keep users on a platform. 3. In a digital era, why would gamblers trust doxxed team? We have black ID market. Anyone can be anyone. If I show you my passport, linkedin account, picture, could you tell who is behind the keyboard? 18 years old girl with a candy or a greedy scammer?
I don't see any problem for more casinos to enter the market since you will.need to have a good product for gamblers to keep patronizing you brand and coming to your casino. Business is all about competition and any product or brand that are not ready for competition would fall aside without having continueous traffic from players.
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January 30, 2023, 11:33:21 PM |
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Doxxed team wont help new gambling platform.
1. We have already thousands of casinos. For a new casino it will tough to survive among others. Nearly impossible. 2. New casino needs a loud promotion campaign, welcome bonuses, something attractive and new, to keep users on a platform. 3. In a digital era, why would gamblers trust doxxed team? We have black ID market. Anyone can be anyone. If I show you my passport, linkedin account, picture, could you tell who is behind the keyboard? 18 years old girl with a candy or a greedy scammer?
I don't see any problem for more casinos to enter the market since you will.need to have a good product for gamblers to keep patronizing you brand and coming to your casino. Business is all about competition and any product or brand that are not ready for competition would fall aside without having continueous traffic from players. We have different kinds of casinos platform and all the casino platform and can say that they are into competition so it is the platform that I have benefit from easy people in the platform that people will patronize or work with so all these things is like a market competition when do you have not set up your platform very well it is when you have a difficultie in your platform
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January 31, 2023, 01:43:09 AM |
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I can speak for myself, I'm not sure if my pov is common or not. I feel more safe when a gambling website is registered with a gambling authority (no matter where in the world). Just gives me that extra feeling of security. I'm not really interested who runs/maintains the casino and their identity. But that's just me of course.
we all have our own decision about when and how we conduct or gambling activities , while you are looking for registered sites , I am for those who had been running for long time even if they are or not registered because that way I am more sure of their activities and their behavior as people will tell you who they are and not just because they have license that sometimes caring about nothing as they can still manage to scam players. You know, even well-known popular casinos sometimes refuse to pay the winners (not all of them obviously). At least you can see online reviews here and there claiming they didn't pay this and that. I know, sometimes these are false accusations, but still, certain negative reviews can be verified and are credible. Yes it is but at least in those popular casino here in our humble forum? the chance of being addressed properly ? and of course the gambling community here will push the site to act accordingly not like to those who have no big names here that can just deny answering those issues and may end up scamming to the players trust . and also negative reviews can be verified but also there are people that only wanted to ruin site reputation so lets be aware of those issues.
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CryptSafe
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January 31, 2023, 03:43:16 AM |
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Crypto gambling sites don't need to be completely transparent, but they need to be transparent to some extent in order to gain the trust of the public.
In business, transparency matters alot as it tells who you are and what you tend to be in the long run. Being transparent keeps your customers and shows them how reliable and trustworthy you and your business is. When seen as a person or business of such, that attracts more clients because already that has done the marketing for you through your clients because they would make recommendations for your own benefit. Some sites reveal their information to the public with good intentions while some other sites do so with nefarious intentions. Being transparent doesn't automatically translate to a trustworthy site.
It is true that some do reveal their information with good intentions while some plans to carrying out nefarious act which is not a good one. Being transparent do let people see the inward aspect of things and knowing what to do at the right time so as to avoid any ill situations. Trust is earned little by little in various ways. This is why I feel that the team getting 100% doxxed won't solve the KYC issue.
Building a trust line isn't a bed of roses. It takes time to do so based on your records milestones achieved and that will also work when you have been available for letting ng delivering Services without any complaint and also, quick response to customers complaints and inquiries with positive results and response overtime. So even with gambling sites stating that their team is doxxed, they won't gain the credibility right away. It is thru the years how they will build their reputation in this business. A matter of years of existence where complaints are being handled promptly. Sometimes I feel that a project stating that their team is doxxed just wanted to get an approval from the community without so much effort, but people already learned their lessons in this market.
And the approval which they seek for through that means would not be acknowledged by the community even if they have field the best team for the casino. Reputation takes time to build based on your services rendered. No body builds a house in one day. Everything is a gradual process which involves time and commitment.
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traderethereum
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January 31, 2023, 04:19:53 AM |
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Doxxed team wont help new gambling platform.
1. We have already thousands of casinos. For a new casino it will tough to survive among others. Nearly impossible. 2. New casino needs a loud promotion campaign, welcome bonuses, something attractive and new, to keep users on a platform. 3. In a digital era, why would gamblers trust doxxed team? We have black ID market. Anyone can be anyone. If I show you my passport, linkedin account, picture, could you tell who is behind the keyboard? 18 years old girl with a candy or a greedy scammer?
I don't see any problem for more casinos to enter the market since you will.need to have a good product for gamblers to keep patronizing you brand and coming to your casino. Business is all about competition and any product or brand that are not ready for competition would fall aside without having continueous traffic from players. We have different kinds of casinos platform and all the casino platform and can say that they are into competition so it is the platform that I have benefit from easy people in the platform that people will patronize or work with so all these things is like a market competition when do you have not set up your platform very well it is when you have a difficultie in your platform So actually, the identity of the casino owner is not a problem whether you want to be published or not because it will depend on how the casino can provide good service and comfort for gamblers to play gambling. This is a business and when people can benefit from it, they will not care who owns it or the team from the casino because they already feel the benefits. Of the many existing casino platforms, we see which are really serious about running their casinos in providing good service to their members. And maybe it's also why many gamblers don't want to know too much about the team behind the casino and want to gamble and earn from the casino.
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January 31, 2023, 10:10:01 AM |
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Doxxed team wont help new gambling platform.
1. We have already thousands of casinos. For a new casino it will tough to survive among others. Nearly impossible. 2. New casino needs a loud promotion campaign, welcome bonuses, something attractive and new, to keep users on a platform. 3. In a digital era, why would gamblers trust doxxed team? We have black ID market. Anyone can be anyone. If I show you my passport, linkedin account, picture, could you tell who is behind the keyboard? 18 years old girl with a candy or a greedy scammer?
I don't see any problem for more casinos to enter the market since you will.need to have a good product for gamblers to keep patronizing you brand and coming to your casino. Business is all about competition and any product or brand that are not ready for competition would fall aside without having continueous traffic from players. What??? I did not say that more casinos = problem. My point was, that having a doxxed team wont be a a huge benefit for gamblers to join OP's friends casino. The point was, that among 1000 casinos, it is useless to tell that we have a doxxed team, come join us instead of 999 others. Being doxxed does not make you special. Example - we knows lots of identities of hackers and scammers, and we cant do much about it. To get customers to new casino, doxxed team is not enough. Casino must offer something others dont. That is a simple business rule.
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maydna
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January 31, 2023, 10:46:19 AM |
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..... But I am still required by law to publish my personal information in public records as the CEO of the company. Why should an online casino be any different?
All types of companies are already required to submit their personal information to regulators are they not? Those records are not readily available to the public and they have to make some request before they can get it from what I know. The difference in what the OP is trying to do is that they're planning to release info that's probably beyond what's required by law. And only the regulators will know the personal information of each of these companies. We as the public, will not know about it and the casino itself will not issue any news to the public about it either. And we don't need to worry about it. We just keep playing and hope to win. Whether the identity of the casino owner and his team are published or will remain anonymous will not be a problem for gamblers because if his identity is revealed to the public but the casino cannot provide good performance for its users, it will mean nothing. It does not necessarily means that for casinos to be patronized, the CEO would or the casino would make public the identities of the board of directors or otherwise. I just believe since casinos are licensed by the government, they have the right to operate and government are in possession of their identity profiles so that should not call for alarm. Just as you have said, gamblers and bettors only aim and goals are just to play and win their games and as we all know not every time it is so. Sometimes you win and sometimes you loss that is the nature of the casino business so any one going in for it should be prepared mentality, psychologically, emotionally and otherwise so as not to get unexpected reaction from an event on result of game play. As to the identities of casinos ownership, it does not really matter to gamers as long as the casino git a government license to operate. I myself am okay by that. Every one has his or her own opinion about that. And if only the regulator knew the profile of the casino owner and the team behind the casino, we couldn't do anything about it. Maybe the regulations from the regulator are already like that. But if we have any problems, we can directly contact the regulators to help solve our problems, especially if, in this case, the casino doesn't want to pay our winnings and let the regulators force the casino. I also feel fine with the identity of the casino owner that I don't know because they must have their own reasons that make them unable to tell the public. And as long as the casino can pay out my winnings fairly without asking me to do many requirements and making it more complicated, that would be better for me.
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Haunebu
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January 31, 2023, 01:30:55 PM |
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But let's be clear: there's no easy way to gain people's trust, and making all your information public could have just as many (if not more) pitfalls as benefits.
True. This is why most gambling sites think twice before sharing any of their private details with the public. They end up relying on licenses to help prove their legitimacy ultimately. Sometimes I feel that a project stating that their team is doxxed just wanted to get an approval from the community without so much effort, but people already learned their lessons in this market.
Many crypto sites used this particular strategy to scam the public and ran away without a second thought(HYIP scams etc).
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Broadanbig
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January 31, 2023, 02:39:38 PM |
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Crypto gambling sites don't need to be completely transparent, but they need to be transparent to some extent in order to gain the trust of the public.
Some sites reveal their information to the public with good intentions while some other sites do so with nefarious intentions. Being transparent doesn't automatically translate to a trustworthy site.
Trust is earned little by little in various ways. This is why I feel that the team getting 100% doxxed won't solve the KYC issue.
Yes, because how many times have you seen projects stating that their team is a doxxed one? And yet, they still end up screwing their investors. It is not anymore an assurance that they will do things right. So even with gambling sites stating that their team is doxxed, they won't gain the credibility right away. It is thru the years how they will build their reputation in this business. A matter of years of existence where complaints are being handled promptly. Sometimes I feel that a project stating that their team is doxxed just wanted to get an approval from the community without so much effort, but people already learned their lessons in this market. Most times When a project comes on air and say that their team is doxxed I do not bother myself with them because that is not what my concern is. I really do not pay attention to the issue of project team being doxxed or not whether casino or otherwise what I really look at is their license because that I where the identities of the ownership of the project lies. Since they have Government issued certificate to operate, it means that the government is fully aware of their presence and business so getting them anything and any day would not be an issue but as long as they are delivering their services to desired satisfaction, I have no problem with the casino because I can easily get them.
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worldofcoins
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February 11, 2023, 10:07:27 AM |
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Hi friends, I am still on the matter of helping a friend who wants to build his own gambling project, the question of the day is about KYC verification, why are popular crypto gambling platforms are not KYC verified themselves? I mean the team behind the online casino why are they not KYC verified and they ask for KYC instead?
Wouldn't it be more fair if they want to stay behind the veil and not as users KYC verification? If they are scared of the law/regulations it makes sense the are verified too, doxxed or something .
Anyway fast forward to my second question, will a gambling platform be more attractive for users if the team are 100% doxxed?
It is unlikely that a gambling platform would be more attractive to users if the team were entirely "doxxed," meaning that their personal information was publicly revealed. It would have an adverse effect, as the site would be no more trustworthy.
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QueenVera
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February 11, 2023, 11:35:37 AM |
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Privacy has been a very core thing of interest and a case of concern of recent times in the gambling industry and most times I think it will be more better that the team stays anonymous at least for their safety and most times this KYC issues should be more related to the licensing bodies who gave the license to the casino.
We've also heard about some casinos in the past who claimed to be doxxed and still yet ends up messing up the trust and credibility so even if it is doxxed or not, it doesn't make any sense to me.
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mak013
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February 11, 2023, 07:03:15 PM |
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Hi friends, I am still on the matter of helping a friend who wants to build his own gambling project, the question of the day is about KYC verification, why are popular crypto gambling platforms are not KYC verified themselves? I mean the team behind the online casino why are they not KYC verified and they ask for KYC instead?
Wouldn't it be more fair if they want to stay behind the veil and not as users KYC verification? If they are scared of the law/regulations it makes sense the are verified too, doxxed or something .
Anyway fast forward to my second question, will a gambling platform be more attractive for users if the team are 100% doxxed?
A good question. But the casino often shows us a big part of data - license, the owner, address, etc. One more question - how it can help the gambler? The most time the ToS have several paragraphs that allow them to ban account any moment and the gambler can do nothing with it. The second moment is that casino works like the bank. They deposit and withdraw your money. Do you often see bank that shows their KYC verification? I don`t think so.
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February 11, 2023, 07:18:10 PM |
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Anyway fast forward to my second question, will a gambling platform be more attractive for users if the team are 100% doxxed?
What difference does it even make? Just because the team won't hide their faces doesn't mean that they won't cheat their users in the future. At worst, they'll just lose their license, that's all. And to be frank, most casinos are sub-licensed.
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February 11, 2023, 07:37:06 PM |
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Anyway fast forward to my second question, will a gambling platform be more attractive for users if the team are 100% doxxed?
What difference does it even make? Just because the team won't hide their faces doesn't mean that they won't cheat their users in the future. At worst, they'll just lose their license, that's all. And to be frank, most casinos are sub-licensed. Exactly and this is why they do really to have that conclusive approach that if someone do show up their faces then they do assume out that it would be 100% secure or they do believe that hacking and stealing couldn't really be that possible which is a BS kind of mindset or idea to have.There would be no assurance no matter what service do really show up their faces.They can ran off anytime if they wanted to. It is really just that there are ones who are really that basing up with their standards, well yes its really that good if ever to be on that way to have that transparency but most of them decided not to show up their faces or making their identities been exposed but what matter most is that they do still give out that service that we are wanting or needing.
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DoublerHunter
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February 11, 2023, 08:25:56 PM |
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Anyway fast forward to my second question, will a gambling platform be more attractive for users if the team are 100% doxxed?
What difference does it even make? Just because the team won't hide their faces doesn't mean that they won't cheat their users in the future. At worst, they'll just lose their license, that's all. And to be frank, most casinos are sub-licensed. ^Definitely right and that is only in Curacao e-gaming licensing authority which most gambling casinos license have. These authorized bodies of Curacao offer two types of licenses, the Master License and the one you have said, the Sub-License. But in other licensing casino authorities, it is hard to lose their license because it is hard to obtain another one, the Malta Gaming Authority, and the UK Gambling Commission, it takes 10-16 weeks before you can obtain a license not like Curacao license only 2-3 weeks you can have a license very quick. So the doxxed team on the very hard-to-obtain gaming license will probably have a chance of assurance not to scam us in the future, but I don't think so in Curacao licensing, it seems very easy.
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February 11, 2023, 09:34:57 PM |
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I guess regulated casinos (which require KYC from users) aren't anonymous. You have to investigate their licenses, so you will find more informations of where their headquarters is located, who is the responsible individual for the business, etc... Staff team doesn't expose themselves on their casino's website and social medias, but with some further research I believe it's possible to find the details you are looking for, because they shouldn't be completely hidden too.
They still can be. A license cost money and that's supposed to be the incentive for a casino to stay fair and obey the law. If there are complaints, the issuer of the license takes it away. It doesn't mean a commission that sells these licenses is some kind of detective agency. They require someone's name and address and that person could be a drunkard or a drug addict who they pay. A license doesn't mean transparent staff. It means there were fees paid and there weren't enough complaints yet for that license to be taken away.
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usekevin
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February 11, 2023, 10:06:18 PM |
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Actually it’s better to find the own ideology for the crypto gambling.We can’t trust blindly anyone or anymore.It’s essential to do background verification for the gambling sites.From that you get some good knowledge about gambling site.The Kyc based gambling is mostly not used by most of the people,Since they look for gambling without any kyc.Because even they play gambling with the unaccounted money.It doesn’t matter and so they may not like to use their own identity.Some may not to share because of their family members to know they playing of gambling.
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