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January 28, 2023, 02:08:43 PM
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Even though this has been debated and addressed numerous times, it is clear that getting a loan to invest in Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency is a bad idea because you can never guarantee a profit from such an investment. Due to the volatility of the cryptocurrency market, investing your money could result in a profit or a loss. Many people took out loans to make investments; some made money, while others sank in debt. Remember to never invest more than you can afford to lose.

I agree, we can borrow money to do business or do other things, but investing in cryptocurrency is really a bad decision. It is true that cryptocurrencies can bring big profits for some people, but many people also lose a lot. And honestly, I see more losers than winners. Cryptocurrency is too volatile, and we don't know if it will continue to grow in the future or will never rise again, no one knows. Only invest with money we can lose, never invest with money we cannot lose.

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January 28, 2023, 08:25:08 PM
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There are a lot of threads here in the forum regarding this kind of question. Try to search it, but I would say the majority of people here will say no, but if you can pay it even if you lose it (not relying on getting profit on bitcoin as it is still not sure that you will gain profit), then take a loan. Just remember, are you willing to pay those loans or money even though you haven't held it or even used it? Then, if your feelings aren't hurt, take out a loan. But again, this is a bad move, and we have already warned you. Just save money instead of taking a loan.
Bitcoin is in fact much valuable than any other thing that people spend their money after they took the loan and then those things just disappear too quickly or can become obsolete over time but that won't ever happen with Bitcoin. Bitcoin is like a wine. The longer it gets, the better so why not? But, the loan amount shouldn't be too much that you will be having a hard time paying it.

I know most of us do have our jobs, so we can still be able to pay the loan without touching our Bitcoins but it will be better to take a loan when there is a dump and then you don't have a cash yet in your hands. This way you won't miss a good opportunity.

If you are so sure, why don't you sell your house, and sell all your assets to invest in bitcoin? To be fair, bitcoin is an extremely risky investment, we all just expect bitcoin to continue to rise in the future, but there is no proof of that for sure. Historically bitcoin has always rallied and hit ATH, but that doesn't mean 100% of history will repeat itself in the future.
Borrowing money to invest in bitcoin is like lending money for business, we can borrow but need to make sure that even if our investment fails, we can still repay those loans. Don't be too subjective that an investment will always be profitable without risk.

Why sell your assets when you are sure you will be profitable in your venture.  It would be better to take a loan and pay for interest than selling your house and rebuying it when you profit.  You can have your house as collateral for your loan though.

Looking at how many people profit in Bitcoin, I do not think it can be a very risky investment.  It has risk yes but smart people can calculate risk of Bitcoin market and take profit at the end.  If the person is really into buying Bitcoin and has no capacity to pay a loan, then I would suggest to buy little amount of BTC every now and then.  DCA if possible and accumulate overtime.  I believe this is a better solution if you wanted to avoid loans and debt.
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January 28, 2023, 09:53:22 PM
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I agree, we can borrow money to do business or do other things, but investing in cryptocurrency is really a bad decision. It is true that cryptocurrencies can bring big profits for some people, but many people also lose a lot. And honestly, I see more losers than winners. Cryptocurrency is too volatile, and we don't know if it will continue to grow in the future or will never rise again, no one knows. Only invest with money we can lose, never invest with money we cannot lose.
Using borrowed funds for crypto investments is not recommended because the purpose of the loan is for capital and profit, but crypto will not guarantee profit for a certain period but while you have to repay the loan monthly, so never use borrowed funds for risky investments. Investers should use the money allocated from the reserve fund so that the funds can be managed during a bear market without the need to disrupt funds for other needs.

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January 28, 2023, 11:46:15 PM
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I read several articles about debt which in the end remained at the same goal, namely debt will only harm you.
There are several reasons that are quite logical here, one of which is debt which actually makes you stressed.

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When you have debt, it's hard not to worry about how you're going to make your payments or how you'll keep from taking on more debt to make ends meet. The stress from debt can lead to mild to severe health problems including ulcers, migraines, depression, and even heart attacks. The deeper you get into debt, the more likely it is that you will face health complications.
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/reasons-debt-is-bad-960048

and I quite agree with what is said here because indeed with us in debt it is clear that our thinking will increase by having to think about how we pay installments every month.
and when we are in debt just to invest in bitcoin it is clear that our thinking will branch out even more because apart from us having to think about installments, many of us are also often in doubt about the conditions where the price of bitcoin drops and crashes like now which makes us panic.
From this alone, we actually have to be aware that even though we will indeed have an advantage if we are in bitcoin, we also have to look at it from the other side.

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January 28, 2023, 11:57:13 PM
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Its never been that recommended because if you do make up some loan just for the sake of taking up some investment here on crypto on where everything isnt really that sure whether you do make profits on time or not and just like the rest been saying that if you are heavily been that depending on your crypto earnings then it isnt something that you could rely with.You arent really that making yourself that get confident
when it comes to earnings which isnt something that you could really be that confident that you could payback it on time unless if you do have other sources then it might do or
not bad to take up some loan but if you are making this as your main source then it would be an another story.
It's better if he has other income then it's better to save it to invest in crypto than applying for a loan with high interest. It will be very detrimental to invest in crypto because of the risk of losing its value and forcing you to hold on for the long term. Even though my income is relatively low, I allocate my salary every month to be added to my portfolio.


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January 29, 2023, 12:15:01 AM
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IMO I don't think it's advisable to take a loan to start up an investment on cryptocurrency, digital coin is a very hot commodity and can be profitable. You can put yourself in serious dept while try to play smart with the market with money you don't have.
In some cases there are circumstances where taking a loan to start up an investment on cryptocurrency can be viable. Crypto investors advise to stay away from taking loan in other to avoid falling into serious dept risk, the percentage isn't 50/50.

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January 29, 2023, 05:32:12 AM
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Its never been that recommended because if you do make up some loan just for the sake of taking up some investment here on crypto on where everything isnt really that sure whether you do make profits on time or not and just like the rest been saying that if you are heavily been that depending on your crypto earnings then it isnt something that you could rely with.You arent really that making yourself that get confident
when it comes to earnings which isnt something that you could really be that confident that you could payback it on time unless if you do have other sources then it might do or
not bad to take up some loan but if you are making this as your main source then it would be an another story.
It's better if he has other income then it's better to save it to invest in crypto than applying for a loan with high interest. It will be very detrimental to invest in crypto because of the risk of losing its value and forcing you to hold on for the long term. Even though my income is relatively low, I allocate my salary every month to be added to my portfolio.

Yes, I am doing the same with my investment, no need to borrow to invest, there are many ways we can save some money to invest in bitcoin. I don't understand why they don't do the same as us but want to borrow, maybe they think that getting rich with bitcoin is easy and they will quickly repay that loan from the profits that bitcoin brings. But they forget one thing, bitcoin can also take away all the money they borrowed and they soon themselves at another impasse in life. If we do not have too much money to invest initially, let's invest little by little, gradually accumulating without borrowing.

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January 29, 2023, 05:59:54 AM
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I read several articles about debt which in the end remained at the same goal, namely debt will only harm you.
There are several reasons that are quite logical here, one of which is debt which actually makes you stressed.

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When you have debt, it's hard not to worry about how you're going to make your payments or how you'll keep from taking on more debt to make ends meet. The stress from debt can lead to mild to severe health problems including ulcers, migraines, depression, and even heart attacks. The deeper you get into debt, the more likely it is that you will face health complications.
https://www.thebalancemoney.com/reasons-debt-is-bad-960048

and I quite agree with what is said here because indeed with us in debt it is clear that our thinking will increase by having to think about how we pay installments every month.
and when we are in debt just to invest in bitcoin it is clear that our thinking will branch out even more because apart from us having to think about installments, many of us are also often in doubt about the conditions where the price of bitcoin drops and crashes like now which makes us panic.
From this alone, we actually have to be aware that even though we will indeed have an advantage if we are in bitcoin, we also have to look at it from the other side.
One of the most important treasures in life is our health. We should never do anything which has as collateral effect damage to health. If the responsability of taking a loan is going to cause stress on that level, this idea has to be completely discouraged and forgotten. When the individual takes the risk of borrowing money to invest in cryptocurrencies, he is putting himself under double risk: besides not being able to repay his debt, he also might end with severe diseases for the rest of his life.

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January 29, 2023, 06:32:43 AM
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Taking a loan is one thing. Taking a loan to invest in bitcoin is another.
Personally, I dislike taking out loans. I had been a bit wild when I was younger and did a lot of crazy shit. Took out loans to do things I see now were not really worth it. I realized how foolish I had been when I started paying them off.

OP I wouldn’t advise your friend to take out a loan to invest in bitcoin. Trying to invest in bitcoin should not make you to take out a loan. Investments generally are risky and volatile. It is not wise to go into all that with money that is borrowed. You may likely not like the outcome.

For some, taking out loans is real easy. Paying back is what’s difficult. Just like a tube of toothpaste. Easy to come out and difficult to go back in.

I like your saying "Just like a tube of toothpaste. Easy to come out and difficult to go back in". Most peope don't realize that taking loans is like drugs, easy to get addicted to but difficult to get rid of. Never borrow money for investment cause the loan will grow much bigger than you can afford if the return doesn't come.
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It has risk yes but smart people can calculate risk of Bitcoin market and take profit at the end.
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Main question is with what do you expect repaying your loan? And are you sure that today is that day when bitcoin price is optimal for buying? Because you can buy at not a best price and repaying your debt all the time at a lower rates of bitcoin during a bear market. And if you would buy with your regular payments (you use to repay a loan) during that time you could buy more bitcoins. Loan is not something obvious.

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"Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin" this question was asked by a friend

My reply to her is this:
It is generally not advisable to take out a loan to purchase Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency markets are highly volatile and the value of a particular coin can fluctuate greatly in a short period of time. This means that the value of the coin you purchase with a loan could drop, making it difficult to repay the loan. It is important to do your own research and make sure you understand the risks before investing in any financial product, including Bitcoin.

What is your advice?
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   On your free will, you can take a loan to buy in Bitcoin or cryptocurrency at your own risk. But for most Financial experts this is
not recommended. Just remember the improtant things in which is carefully consider your financial situation and risk tolerance.
Because taking a loan to invest can also increase the potential loss if your investment does not perform as expected.


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Of course this depends on the courage we take risks, the first thing we have to understand is Bitcoin is very fluctuating so that prices can drop significantly and have proven many people bankrupt because of Bitcoin, if we take a loan then make sure that we have the ability to pay and not rely on Bitcoin because the market is difficult to guess.
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If you can find other ways to pay your debt then it won't be a problem. We all know that it's a risky move and you might not have any assurance that you could gain the profit that you want in a specific time frame. Bitcoin is volatile so loaning to invest in it might bring you into trouble if you have a payment deadline. But if you could repay it even before taking your profit, then it's fine. Always make sure to invest what you can only afford to lose or loan what you can afford to pay without facing difficult consequences. If you don't have any assurance of repaying your loan, then better take one step at a time by saving so you'll have funds for investment.
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On hindsight, I think it would have been a good idea to take a huge loan during the FTX meltdown. Grin

Unless we have another bottom in 2023, which is not very likely... historically the bottom of the new cycle is usually 1 year after the latest ATH.
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What is your advice?
Loans anywhere, with any collateral, Banks, loan sharks, and so on, all of that has risks, you have to bear the principal + interest payments every month, the risk burden is greater.

I once read one of the crypto investment stories of a farmer, within 4 years he has become a billionaire.
The story goes like this:
The farmer harvests the crop once every three months, meaning: he can earn from the farm three times a year more & less, the farmer only focuses on one type of crypto, i.e. Bitcoin, once harvest he bought Bitcoin for $ 500, he set aside 1/3 of the harvest, in a period of 4 years he collected 1 Bitcoin, at that time the price of Bitcoin was $6000, after in 2021 yesterday he sold his investment results at a Bitcoin price of $ 60k, the farmer received a profit many times the capital he invested.

From the story above, it can be concluded: invest little by little from the results of your efforts, in the type of crypto that you believe in, that's better, rather than you having to borrow at the risk of having to pay each month for your loan, not to mention other risks.

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January 29, 2023, 02:53:07 PM
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"Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin" this question was asked by a friend

My reply to her is this:
It is generally not advisable to take out a loan to purchase Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency markets are highly volatile and the value of a particular coin can fluctuate greatly in a short period of time. This means that the value of the coin you purchase with a loan could drop, making it difficult to repay the loan. It is important to do your own research and make sure you understand the risks before investing in any financial product, including Bitcoin.

What is your advice?
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   On your free will, you can take a loan to buy in Bitcoin or cryptocurrency at your own risk. But for most Financial experts this is
not recommended. Just remember the improtant things in which is carefully consider your financial situation and risk tolerance.
Because taking a loan to invest can also increase the potential loss if your investment does not perform as expected.



I am not a financial expert, but I would still like to say that borrowing to invest in bitcoin is very risky and not advisable. I used to take out a business loan, and my business failed, and it can be said that I worked very hard to pay that debt, and during that time, I could barely get enough sleep, couldn't eat enough, and could hardly do anything but save up to pay off my debt. Everything is very scary. Your troubles will only get worse if you borrow money to invest in a market that is considered the riskiest, it's really not worth trying.

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Taking loan to invest in bitcoin is not a bad move but you have to bear two things in mind , in every investment you either make profit or you loose your money, bitcoin is not steady as the value can drop or increase at any time, if it increases the you are at profit but if it reduces then you at loss , so you have to have a contingency plan on how to pay back the money if the market doesn't favour you because the person lending you the money will surely come back for his money.
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Taking loan to invest in bitcoin is not a bad move but you have to bear two things in mind , in every investment you either make profit or you loose your money, bitcoin is not steady as the value can drop or increase at any time, if it increases the you are at profit but if it reduces then you at loss , so you have to have a contingency plan on how to pay back the money if the market doesn't favour you because the person lending you the money will surely come back for his money.
I tried taking loan and invested and it was a scam - I lost peace of mind and I lost the amount and worked day and night to payoff the loan.
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I agree, we can borrow money to do business or do other things, but investing in cryptocurrency is really a bad decision. It is true that cryptocurrencies can bring big profits for some people, but many people also lose a lot. And honestly, I see more losers than winners. Cryptocurrency is too volatile, and we don't know if it will continue to grow in the future or will never rise again, no one knows. Only invest with money we can lose, never invest with money we cannot lose.
Actually, borrowing money for Bitcoin investment and other businesses is the same. Both have risks and no guarantee for profits. I never heard that any business that can guarantee certain profits. However, we can't deny that investing in Bitcoin is riskier because it is very volatile and unpredictable. So, for un experienced people, never try to use borrowed money for Bitcoin investment. But for the experts (experienced investors/traders), using borrowed money is no problem as long as it isn't excessive. Experts must know how to deal with the risks, know the way to secure profits, and understand how to manage borrowed money.


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I agree, we can borrow money to do business or do other things, but investing in cryptocurrency is really a bad decision. It is true that cryptocurrencies can bring big profits for some people, but many people also lose a lot. And honestly, I see more losers than winners. Cryptocurrency is too volatile, and we don't know if it will continue to grow in the future or will never rise again, no one knows. Only invest with money we can lose, never invest with money we cannot lose.
Actually, borrowing money for Bitcoin investment and other businesses is the same. Both have risks and no guarantee for profits. I never heard that any business that can guarantee certain profits. However, we can't deny that investing in Bitcoin is riskier because it is very volatile and unpredictable. So, for un experienced people, never try to use borrowed money for Bitcoin investment. But for the experts (experienced investors/traders), using borrowed money is no problem as long as it isn't excessive. Experts must know how to deal with the risks, know the way to secure profits, and understand how to manage borrowed money.


Read in comment above and like it - - "Loans anywhere, with any collateral, Banks, loan sharks"  that is correct that you have to bear the principal and the interest and on the other hand the risk is high.
So dont play on loan - try to save some money and they make a move.

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