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April 18, 2023, 09:48:42 AM
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Due loan is productive and have manage well controlling for investing in Bitcoin its seems not matter when taking loan and use as investment capital, almost the same with businessman take much loan and use for building their business and have capacity repaying loan on deadline days. Bigger risk always waiting for when getting loan invest in bitcoin, some time out predicting if bitcoin dropped drastically and should recovery back up money repaying loan if won't higher interest later. Probably not matter with loan and use for investing in bitcoin trough loan capacity under 80% of our assets. Don't take loan for investing in Bitcoin above 50% your assets because when bitcoin drop difficult looking for recovery money.



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April 18, 2023, 01:20:24 PM
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likewise I won't do it - I did it once in my life and I suffered a huge loss. Now I won't do it again in my life ever again.
I suffered loss and I suffered depression and my health suffered so much . . Life was a chaos when I did that.
Now I won't do it again.

I completely agree with your opinion that taking loan to invest in a risky asset can lead to dire consequences, in case your investment incurs losses and your income from other sources is not sufficient to cover the installments of loan. It is always advisable to invest from your own saving, no matter how low amount is available for investment.

Regularly investing in Bitcoin on major price dips with long term perspective has the potential to yield significant benefits.
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April 22, 2023, 11:49:39 PM
Last edit: April 23, 2023, 02:22:46 AM by Cryptock
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There is no need to jump with huge money rather you can invest with small money also aka Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA). The basic idea in DCA is to put small money regularly and that's a guaranteed strategy that will give you good return.  

About DCA. The key question is when you start investing small money. If you do so when bitcoin is just starting to enter a bearish phase, you will only be losing for an indefinite period of time (a new bottom will be present). Yes, so far bitcoin has started its rise after a fall - but will it always be like that? And if you invest a small amount of money for two years - it will add up to quite a lot of money.


point well stated!
but if we have no money for the investment - then it would be hard to wait and invest
Sometimes one needs an emergency fund. That is so desperately needed and one cannot wait for that long.

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April 22, 2023, 11:53:38 PM
Last edit: April 23, 2023, 02:38:35 AM by Theones
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Defaulting a loan is a disaster, most got lucky because they don't serve jail time because AFAIK, you can go to a small claims court if your borrower defaulted the loan. I totally agree that it's a follish game to do especially that no one can win. It's alright to borrow money to invest in bitcoin or any type of investment, I mean businesses do it all the time, and it's in billions if not millions but you have to understand that loan is a social contract that you need to fulfill at your end.

It is a disaster for honest people, and I know some who tried to cheat the system, but main thing is that none of them are happy with that, it is not a way. Some can be fugitive from justice for years, but what they got from not paying their debt is not enough for that, so they have less than in regular life.

But even to take a loan for too risky enterprise even if has less risks anyway is not good. Paying a debt when lose with investing can be hard both emotionally and financially.
that is what is on my mind too.
Honest person should not take loan at first place. Because they are not used to it.
And they will take loan and will spend most of their life repenting for what they have done so far.

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April 23, 2023, 10:52:19 AM
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that is what is on my mind too.
Honest person should not take loan at first place. Because they are not used to it.
And they will take loan and will spend most of their life repenting for what they have done so far.

That's right. Let's look at it using this year situation: first bitcoin doubled its rate to USD, then it was growing a little. And when it went over $30k many started saying it is definitely a bull time, and next level will be at $33k. And what do we see now? Bitcoin lost about 10%. Well, if we hold some savings in it, then it is not a problem, we are just waiting until true bulls. But if there is a loan taken an $30k+ then what can a person feel when he sees that his assets are already down and no guarantees that it is a small correction before bulls. It could be so that it is a correction before flat. Or less likely bear return. I guess the one with a loan can be very nervous what can lead to health problems and regrets of course. Better not to risk that way.

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April 23, 2023, 12:37:33 PM
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Those who are experienced in trading platforms and try to invest in trading business with loans. There are several things that an investor should carefully consider before making a loan. Because if the loan is taken, the cost increases. A specific amount of money is to be paid to the bank or any other institution as installments every month. Also how much assurance is there where you invest. As far as cryptocurrencies are concerned, Bitcoin is still about 60 percent below its all-time high, so if you had invested at that time, you would have been at a loss and would have had to pay extra. As a result, a person can lose from both sides. So try to invest with your own money in Bitcoin and what you can afford to lose.

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April 23, 2023, 02:34:54 PM
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"Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin" this question was asked by a friend

My reply to her is this:
It is generally not advisable to take out a loan to purchase Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency markets are highly volatile and the value of a particular coin can fluctuate greatly in a short period of time. This means that the value of the coin you purchase with a loan could drop, making it difficult to repay the loan. It is important to do your own research and make sure you understand the risks before investing in any financial product, including Bitcoin.

What is your advice?

I suggest not to invest when you are ready because borrowing money to buy bitcoin is a very high risk thing, what's more, the cryptocurrency market is very volatile, so avoid things like that, buy bitcoin when you are ready and accept all the risks because there is no  bitcoin guarantee will go up do your own research before buying.

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April 23, 2023, 05:23:59 PM
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Those who are experienced in trading platforms and try to invest in trading business with loans. There are several things that an investor should carefully consider before making a loan. Because if the loan is taken, the cost increases. A specific amount of money is to be paid to the bank or any other institution as installments every month. Also how much assurance is there where you invest. As far as cryptocurrencies are concerned, Bitcoin is still about 60 percent below its all-time high, so if you had invested at that time, you would have been at a loss and would have had to pay extra. As a result, a person can lose from both sides. So try to invest with your own money in Bitcoin and what you can afford to lose.

Well at least I was thinking the same thing as you. And keep in mind also that investing in bitcoin is only suitable for the long term. whereas if someone invests in bitcoin with money he borrows from the Bank, then of course that person must continue to pay loan installments every month to the Bank. while the borrowed money has been invested in bitcoin which may only benefit if he keeps it as a long-term investment. And if the borrower thinks that he can benefit from short-term investments or from day trading then I think that's a big mistake. because he takes a big risk and puts it in an investment that is also high risk. so it is true that it is wiser to use only the money we can afford to lose.

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April 23, 2023, 06:10:16 PM
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Those who are experienced in trading platforms and try to invest in trading business with loans. There are several things that an investor should carefully consider before making a loan. Because if the loan is taken, the cost increases. A specific amount of money is to be paid to the bank or any other institution as installments every month. Also how much assurance is there where you invest. As far as cryptocurrencies are concerned, Bitcoin is still about 60 percent below its all-time high, so if you had invested at that time, you would have been at a loss and would have had to pay extra. As a result, a person can lose from both sides. So try to invest with your own money in Bitcoin and what you can afford to lose.

Well at least I was thinking the same thing as you. And keep in mind also that investing in bitcoin is only suitable for the long term. whereas if someone invests in bitcoin with money he borrows from the Bank, then of course that person must continue to pay loan installments every month to the Bank. while the borrowed money has been invested in bitcoin which may only benefit if he keeps it as a long-term investment. And if the borrower thinks that he can benefit from short-term investments or from day trading then I think that's a big mistake. because he takes a big risk and puts it in an investment that is also high risk. so it is true that it is wiser to use only the money we can afford to lose.

That's right, stablecoins are suitable for long-term only, while altcoins and NFT are actually gambling, not investments. In general, taking a loan is a problem for everyday life: there have to be at least small stable income to pay the debts. Things bought with borrowed money should bring a good mood, and buying cryptocurrencies with borrowed money brings expectations of price growth, which is possible to never happen. So taking loans for buying cryptocurrency is not a good idea in terms of "emotional profit".

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April 23, 2023, 06:37:03 PM
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Taking loan is not advisable but if the coin is bitcoin then taking loan is not much risky but try to understand that how to deal with the volatility and when to sell and what step should take when the market is not good.

Just buy bitcoin at this time surely next time you will successfully return your loan as well as you will also get benefit because next your there will be greater enhancement in this price of bitcoin.

Taking loan does not sound good but if you have no other option then take it but return it as you get little profit I mean that if your money enhances little then sell your bitcoin to return the loan and use your profit again in bitcoin investment.

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Taking a loan to invest is never a good idea. Debt is a burden you have to carry until you are able to repay the debt. And investment is not such a safe place no matter where you invest your money will be at risk. 
Especially if you invest in these online platforms, the amount of risk is a little high. If you take a loan from a relative you know and invest in Bitcoin, the money can ruin your relationship. Again, if you invest by taking a loan from the bank and if you cannot pay the specified time, then the bank will harass you in various ways. So there is no need for these things, save some money for investment and then invest with that money.

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April 23, 2023, 07:01:50 PM
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Those who are experienced in trading platforms and try to invest in trading business with loans. There are several things that an investor should carefully consider before making a loan. Because if the loan is taken, the cost increases. A specific amount of money is to be paid to the bank or any other institution as installments every month. Also how much assurance is there where you invest. As far as cryptocurrencies are concerned, Bitcoin is still about 60 percent below its all-time high, so if you had invested at that time, you would have been at a loss and would have had to pay extra. As a result, a person can lose from both sides. So try to invest with your own money in Bitcoin and what you can afford to lose.

Of course, your explanation makes a lot of sense to me. If the OP or someone wants to invest in bitcoin especially in the long term, then it's better for him to do it with his own budget instead of making a loan from bank or something like that. If they have to loan, then it's a good idea to loan from friend or family member where loan repayment plan can be arranged by agreement for certain period of time or maybe when they make profit on the investment.

But if they have some options like owning jewelry, a car that's rarely used, or anything else of value that isn't turning profit at the moment, then it's far better to sell it to get budget investment instead of making loan plus interest. They can buy it again after the expected return is achieved, but set a budget amount and think about the risks.

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Taking loan is not advisable but if the coin is bitcoin then taking loan is not much risky but try to understand that how to deal with the volatility and when to sell and what step should take when the market is not good.

Just buy bitcoin at this time surely next time you will successfully return your loan as well as you will also get benefit because next your there will be greater enhancement in this price of bitcoin.

Taking loan does not sound good but if you have no other option then take it but return it as you get little profit I mean that if your money enhances little then sell your bitcoin to return the loan and use your profit again in bitcoin investment.
Taking a loan isnt bad as long you are really be able to repay it on time without having to rely with those bitcoin or crypto investment then you should be fine but if you are relying on it then better avoid such decision.

Never ever consider out this kind of action considering that it is really just that too risky on doing so.Just like on what mentioned that if ever you do able to pay then go ahead.We do really need to take
measures or actions if ever we do see an opportunity for us to make some profits specially in long term.We've seen on how bitcoin did really be able to progress over a decade
which is something that we cant really be able to deny that it is really worth on holding on.


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April 23, 2023, 11:47:04 PM
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that is what is on my mind too.
Honest person should not take loan at first place. Because they are not used to it.
And they will take loan and will spend most of their life repenting for what they have done so far.

That's right. Let's look at it using this year situation: first bitcoin doubled its rate to USD, then it was growing a little. And when it went over $30k many started saying it is definitely a bull time, and next level will be at $33k. And what do we see now? Bitcoin lost about 10%. Well, if we hold some savings in it, then it is not a problem, we are just waiting until true bulls. But if there is a loan taken an $30k+ then what can a person feel when he sees that his assets are already down and no guarantees that it is a small correction before bulls. It could be so that it is a correction before flat. Or less likely bear return. I guess the one with a loan can be very nervous what can lead to health problems and regrets of course. Better not to risk that way.
This is a good example - people who have purchased bitcoin in early days are lucky enough to get profit

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Those who are experienced in trading platforms and try to invest in trading business with loans. There are several things that an investor should carefully consider before making a loan. Because if the loan is taken, the cost increases. A specific amount of money is to be paid to the bank or any other institution as installments every month. Also how much assurance is there where you invest. As far as cryptocurrencies are concerned, Bitcoin is still about 60 percent below its all-time high, so if you had invested at that time, you would have been at a loss and would have had to pay extra. As a result, a person can lose from both sides. So try to invest with your own money in Bitcoin and what you can afford to lose.

Of course, your explanation makes a lot of sense to me. If the OP or someone wants to invest in bitcoin especially in the long term, then it's better for him to do it with his own budget instead of making a loan from bank or something like that. If they have to loan, then it's a good idea to loan from friend or family member where loan repayment plan can be arranged by agreement for certain period of time or maybe when they make profit on the investment.

But if they have some options like owning jewelry, a car that's rarely used, or anything else of value that isn't turning profit at the moment, then it's far better to sell it to get budget investment instead of making loan plus interest. They can buy it again after the expected return is achieved, but set a budget amount and think about the risks.
rightly said - i think the best investment is gold, in our culture parents used to give gold to their daughter which turned out to be a good investment later in life.

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April 24, 2023, 12:15:26 AM
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Life is long and if someone thinks he is good in fooling others there'll be the one who is better in that and who will fool the first one. So it is better even not to start playing that game and if started then to stop. I saw some who started and none of them won from that. Taking a loan not to return it is a bad game and I'd not recommend it to anyone.
Defaulting a loan is a disaster, most got lucky because they don't serve jail time because AFAIK, you can go to a small claims court if your borrower defaulted the loan. I totally agree that it's a follish game to do especially that no one can win. It's alright to borrow money to invest in bitcoin or any type of investment, I mean businesses do it all the time, and it's in billions if not millions but you have to understand that loan is a social contract that you need to fulfill at your end.
but many people do it. They might not do it with bank but they will do it with the people around, as stated above if someone think they have fooled people and have gained money from them. They lives in fool paradise - this is something worth reading today!

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April 24, 2023, 02:37:27 AM
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likewise I won't do it - I did it once in my life and I suffered a huge loss. Now I won't do it again in my life ever again.
I suffered loss and I suffered depression and my health suffered so much . . Life was a chaos when I did that.
Now I won't do it again.

I completely agree with your opinion that taking loan to invest in a risky asset can lead to dire consequences, in case your investment incurs losses and your income from other sources is not sufficient to cover the installments of loan. It is always advisable to invest from your own saving, no matter how low amount is available for investment.

Regularly investing in Bitcoin on major price dips with long term perspective has the potential to yield significant benefits.

I agree that borrowing money to invest is risky, but if you don't take risks, don't step out of your comfort zone, how can you succeed? Time does not stop for anyone, over time, the higher the bitcoin price, the more opportunities we lose. If we have a job with a stable income and have a specific plan, we can consider borrowing money to invest.
Assuming that the worst case scenario is that our investment fails, but we can still pay that loan with our income, there's no reason why we shouldn't take a risk to invest. But if we don't have any income and just rely on that loan to expect miracles, then we better stop that stupid idea.

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"Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin" this question was asked by a friend

My reply to her is this:
It is generally not advisable to take out a loan to purchase Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency markets are highly volatile and the value of a particular coin can fluctuate greatly in a short period of time. This means that the value of the coin you purchase with a loan could drop, making it difficult to repay the loan. It is important to do your own research and make sure you understand the risks before investing in any financial product, including Bitcoin.

What is your advice?

Yes it is not advisable to get a loan just to invest in bitcoin. That loan would just be a burden to your friend, because there is a lot of what if, what if his investment fall down? How can he repay his loan? Just advice your friend that making an investment in crypto currency should not be done in form of loan. Investing in crypto currency is investing what you can afford to loose. There are people who applied for a loan and invested  in crypto currency and ended up loosing.

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I agree that borrowing money to invest is risky, but if you don't take risks, don't step out of your comfort zone, how can you succeed? Time does not stop for anyone, over time, the higher the bitcoin price, the more opportunities we lose. If we have a job with a stable income and have a specific plan, we can consider borrowing money to invest.
Assuming that the worst case scenario is that our investment fails, but we can still pay that loan with our income, there's no reason why we shouldn't take a risk to invest. But if we don't have any income and just rely on that loan to expect miracles, then we better stop that stupid idea.
Do you mean take a loan to buy bitcoin and give it back from your salary?

This may only be a good idea if you buy bitcoin at the bottom, but you understand that no one can know when this will happen. You can take out a loan, buy bitcoin and pay it off with every paycheck, but imagine that every month bitcoin becomes cheaper and cheaper, every month its price falls, and the bear market will be much longer than you expected. And besides that, you will pay the bank interest on the loan.

Therefore, such a step can be taken, but here, in addition to everything, luck is also important so that you are lucky to buy bitcoin at the bottom, but it is not so easy.

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April 24, 2023, 08:16:01 AM
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For the sake of investing bitcoin do not be desperate to take a loan. Taking loan might bring you to a much more higher interest rates and surcharges specially if your bitcoin investment goes down. If that happens you might not be able to pay your debt and the interests will go higher and higher. Better yet save some money and do not in a hurry to invest. There are still a lot of time you can invest. Do not risk on getting a loan because it can make your life miserable if you did not profit on your bitcoin investment.

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