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January 24, 2023, 08:24:24 PM
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Any time I see someone writing a post discussing how to limit volatility, I tend to assume they either have little concept of price discovery, or understand it but simply don't have any respect for it.  Either way, it seems as though such people are unwittingly asking for market rigging.  Perhaps I just subscribe to a different economic philosophy to most, but I don't think anyone should be in control of that.

It's only a problem when people try to meddle.  Just allow the market to do its thing.

Absolutely!

When you can gain some form of understanding of the way the markets act and
that yes they are volatile, then they will no longer be an issue, or something stressful.

It reads to me like the OP wants a happy Bitcoin utopia where the price either stays
static or constantly increases.

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January 25, 2023, 02:56:50 AM
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volatility is two sides of blades in my opinion, some people hated it but some people love it. like gold i think volatility of bitcoin will not gonna end unless there is some entity that control all centralized exchange and put limit on bitcoin price but i think is impossible for now

but for now enjoy the volatility buy low sell high on the same dates

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January 25, 2023, 03:45:06 AM
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Technically it's possible for government to reduce Bitcoin's volatility as long as they control almost of the exchange (centralized exchange) and they're setting the interval when the we can trade our Bitcoin similar like in stock trading.

But I will be the one who against the idea to reduce Bitcoin's volatility because the reason why I invest in Bitcoin is the high volatility and low risk. High volatility will boost Bitcoin price and the reason why I say Bitcoin has low risk because Bitcoin has the lowest risk among other cryptos.
Once there is regulation, and the government directly regulates the market, they will more or less reduce the volatility of bitcoin if they want to.

I would also oppose the idea of reducing bitcoin's volatility and don't expect that to happen. We invest in bitcoin because we like its volatility.
But you cannot say bitcoin is highly volatile and low risk, if compared to other cryptocurrencies, bitcoin is not more volatile than shitcoin, so it is less risky than shitcoin. But if you compare bitcoin with other assets, it is clear that bitcoin is very volatile and riskier.

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January 25, 2023, 10:34:32 AM
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volatility is two sides of blades in my opinion, some people hated it but some people love it. like gold i think volatility of bitcoin will not gonna end unless there is some entity that control all centralized exchange and put limit on bitcoin price but i think is impossible for now
The people who love volatility are the people who benefit from it, people only get angry and complain about it when they loose to the volatility. Why the hurry to end Volatility? Volatility is not a topic to discuss on how to end it, give it time the volatility of bitcoins will reduce and the price of it will become more stable.

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January 25, 2023, 11:04:15 AM
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One of the ways is to stop producing these altcoins revert year because they are one of the reasons why people divert their investment from bitcoins to those altcoins that will gonna turn shitcoins later on. They are just confusing investors and with their promising words when they first introduce their project, many are lured to invest but will gonna regret their decision after years because they will gonna see the bitcoin price rise, and their altcoins seem not to care no matter how good the situation of the market is and when a bearish trend comes, it will not gonna bounce back and remain at the bottom until their developers give up.

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January 25, 2023, 11:25:29 AM
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There's nothing artificial we can do to control the price and volatility because Bitcoin is not fiat and is decentralized. But I agree with the op that more daily transactions of using Bitcoin as payment could stabilize the price more. The high volatility is probably due to uncertainty of many people, of viewing Bitcoin primarily as an asset to hodl or trade. If it's more viewed and used as money, that could help. That being said, Bitcoin is often pretty stable at a certain price point for a long time, especially during the bear market. And I'm not sure if it will ever be less volatile than over the last few years, given that the majority are probably interested in Bitcoin as a source of profit, not a financial innovation. We should also consider the trade-offs of stability. How much control should go to some authorities and regulations for the sake of a more stable currency? Personally, I wouldn't want to see us going in that direction, as I don't think volatility is that bad and reducing it is that important.

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January 25, 2023, 11:51:22 AM
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The volatility of bitcoin won't end anytime, I think we have to give more time for more people to appreciate bitcoin and use it in daily business transactions. At the moment, I believe some form of regulation can help make things pretty much more stable than we have at the moment otherwise we shall experience more issues with volatility. The high price volatility of Bitcoin and other decentralized cryptocurrencies will never evaporate. On the perverse, if the expense of cryptocurrency will improve, the volatility will only boost, as the expense spectrum will develop.
As long as the price of cryptocurrency will depend on supply and demand, the high price volatility of cryptocurrency will remain. Still think the ETF funds can solve this problem, or at least will lessen the volatility of Bitcoin. The more control of the market, the less volatility it will be, now we still don't have any rule or laws to govern this market,.
 

I totally agree with you, when regulation across the world will be more present then volatility will drop. For now, there is about 4% in crypto which is low, I think with more adoption of cryptocurrency across the world there will be less volatility. I asked myself how the news will impact cryptocurrency, like in forex we can see how news of CB has impacted on the market. Crypto is a great opportunity to be as an individual or a company more efficient and more recognizable and so on. In the next few years, we will see more adoption on side of crypto, and then we can probably see less volatility.
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January 25, 2023, 12:34:41 PM
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It is like asking when Bitcoin becomes centralized so the price can be controlled. Otherwise, the volatility remains even if the government will take action.

But I guess OP, we have to accept the reality that Bitcoin has been created for such a thing and the price keeps moving up and down. Because what I think is that people become unhappy if the price becomes stable and it lessens the interest of the community if their chance of earning a huge profit is very slim.
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January 25, 2023, 12:54:28 PM
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The volatility of bitcoin won't end anytime, I think we have to give more time for more people to appreciate bitcoin and use it in daily business transactions. At the moment, I believe some form of regulation can help make things pretty much more stable than we have at the moment otherwise we shall experience more issues with volatility. The high price volatility of Bitcoin and other decentralized cryptocurrencies will never evaporate. On the perverse, if the expense of cryptocurrency will improve, the volatility will only boost, as the expense spectrum will develop.
As long as the price of cryptocurrency will depend on supply and demand, the high price volatility of cryptocurrency will remain. Still think the ETF funds can solve this problem, or at least will lessen the volatility of Bitcoin. The more control of the market, the less volatility it will be, now we still don't have any rule or laws to govern this market,.
 
Is it possible for bitcoin prices to go higher if you want to end bitcoin volatility? I don't think that because Bitcoin is the most volatile it has enough value globally. If bitcoin keeps a normal price instead of being volatile then no one will feel motivated to invest in bitcoins resulting in a withdrawal of investment from bitcoin and eventually nothing but loss of value. Investors are interested in Bitcoin because of its volatility. Bitcoin is decentralized so there is no chance for anyone to centralize it. So it is not possible to remove it from the volatile state. Many of us in crypto certainly want it to be more highly volatile but Bitcoin can be a big problem for risk averse people.

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January 25, 2023, 01:20:31 PM
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Is it just me or these topics OP creates in quick succession look suspicious as if they were something that an AI would create...

In some ways, yes, topics are somewhat redundant and the content too. Somehow it is the same with the others because it's like a clickbait because the OP is also answering its question after you open the thread. Also, it feels like it the construction of the OP's sentence is looking too good to be true, or is it just me? Huh

But to answer the OP's question, a little volatility surely helps and I believe it is there for a reason besides, I think it's almost impossible to actually stop it.

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January 25, 2023, 07:44:34 PM
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It is like asking when Bitcoin becomes centralized so the price can be controlled. Otherwise, the volatility remains even if the government will take action.

But I guess OP, we have to accept the reality that Bitcoin has been created for such a thing and the price keeps moving up and down. Because what I think is that people become unhappy if the price becomes stable and it lessens the interest of the community if their chance of earning a huge profit is very slim.
There are also coins who are centralized but their value is still volatile and then there's also stable coins who are decentralized, so no it has nothing to do with it. Despite BTC being volatile, there are still times where its value can become stable like on what we experience lately where the price seem to be stuck in 23k USD.

BTC being volatile is still a good thing and yes this is one of the thing which makes it popular. Another would be is that it is decentralized and has a limited supply. For the people who dislikes the volatility of BTC or any other crypto then they better use stables coins instead or the latest one that governments and banks created which was called CBDC.

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January 25, 2023, 07:52:41 PM
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This is a great/important topic and one I think we should all be having more often.  In my opinion one of the biggest things that we need in order to help bring more stability to bitcoin is....actually using it!  I'm fully convinced that bitcoin actually being used as a means of payment, is what's going to shoot it "to the moon".  There's still too many skeptics who point out it's lack of real world use for every day items and by starting to use it more often would be a huge boost to it's acceptance and therefore help volatility.

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January 26, 2023, 12:42:29 AM
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The people who love volatility are the people who benefit from it, people only get angry and complain about it when they loose to the volatility. Why the hurry to end Volatility?

The OP seems to ask how to end volatility. But like I have said before, volatility is good if you are a trader but if you are a long-term holder forget the noise of volatility in the short-term and keep HODLING right?? at the end of the day bitcoin still prove itself with the ATH every 4 year Cheesy

don't like volatility just use stablecoin  Cheesy

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January 26, 2023, 01:36:28 AM
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I am curious if Bitcoin is still volatile if we already have a lot of volume in the future. Before we reach a lot of volumes, I am imagining we are already x5 or more than the price of Bitcoin or the entire market cap is already multiplied. Does this guarantee that the volatility of Bitcoin will reduce?


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January 26, 2023, 01:55:30 AM
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Why would we want to get rid of volatility in an artificial way.  Tongue
Volatility is one of the reasons so many traders are into this market and willing to provide huge liquidity through exchanges, of course in the hope of getting a quick buck, in exchange, besides, if I remember correctly satoshi was okey for Bitcoin to have a floating exchange rate and to this day volatility has not represented a problem for our ecosystem.

For those who need stable coins, there some in the market which do not seem to be in the brink of collapse anytime soon.

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January 26, 2023, 02:01:51 AM
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First, I'm afraid we cannot just easily make volatility end. Many are saying the price of Bitcoin is manipulated. It may be to a certain extent, but nobody could just like pump and dump Bitcoin. It is almost a $0.5 trillion asset and it has tens of billions of daily volume. You can't easily remove volatility from it. It should also imply you also need to manipulate the news and the sentiment around it.

Second, I think as Bitcoin grows older, adoption widens, more people own Bitcoin, circulating supply more scattered, its use as a currency grows, and so on, volatility would somehow wind down. At this point, Bitcoin is very young, supply is heavily focused to a few individuals and institutions, only a tiny percentage of the world's population owns it, and so on. Volatility is expectedly high.

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January 26, 2023, 04:01:12 AM
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First, I'm afraid we cannot just easily make volatility end. Many are saying the price of Bitcoin is manipulated. It may be to a certain extent, but nobody could just like pump and dump Bitcoin. It is almost a $0.5 trillion asset and it has tens of billions of daily volume. You can't easily remove volatility from it. It should also imply you also need to manipulate the news and the sentiment around it.

bitcoin is not a 'almost $0.5trill asset'

at best this week is a ~$23k asset. but even that does not mean it needs 23k to trade..
people trade 0.02 amounts(sub $500). so it only needs (sub 500) per order average per trade to keep the price near the $23k this week. and by doing arbitrage loops can do it with the same $360 allotment over and over and over hundreds of times to churn/eat/buzzthrough the opposing orders trying to freemarket away from $23k

the 0.5t is just a meaningless multiplier number of math after effect. not a value/reserve amount protecting bitcoin. the market cap is a end result of high school math. not a source reason of value security

with that aid the manipulators can keep prices within regions for 1-8 weeks but even they get bored and want to move the market or run out of small side holdings to keep up the resistance walls

anyway as alrady mentioned in other posts. peole dont care about volatility, becasue we have got used to it so much we dont see it. it usually requires media to high light it to death until people se it again

take food prices
same batch of goods are $188 in new hamshire and $555 in hawaii
so there is a 3x disparagement of value sentiment across just america about how much people value bread, lettuce potato etc
https://www.move.org/the-average-cost-of-food-in-the-us/#Methodology

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January 26, 2023, 08:44:31 AM
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Why would we want to get rid of volatility in an artificial way.  Tongue
Volatility is one of the reasons so many traders are into this market and willing to provide huge liquidity through exchanges, of course in the hope of getting a quick buck, in exchange, besides, if I remember correctly satoshi was okey for Bitcoin to have a floating exchange rate and to this day volatility has not represented a problem for our ecosystem.

For those who need stable coins, there some in the market which do not seem to be in the brink of collapse anytime soon.

Yeah, I don't see volatility as a problem too. But many people are trying to make BTC a payment method, but it can't be done globally with that volatility. But I don't think that's even needed.
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January 26, 2023, 12:42:58 PM
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when bitcoin was 2 years old(2011) swinging by 100x in a few months ($0.30 to $30) was a big deal
we have not seen a 100x swing since

when bitcoin was 4 years old(2013) swinging by 85x in a year (jan $14 to dec $1.2k) was a big deal
we have not seen a 85x swing since

when bitcoin was 8 years old(2017) swinging by 20x in a year (jan $1k to dec $20k) was a big deal
we have not seen a 20x swing since

when bitcoin was 12 years old(2021) swinging by 3x in a year (jan $25k to nov $70k) was a big deal
we may see a 3-7x swing again

the swings are not getting wider. things are calming down

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January 26, 2023, 12:48:55 PM
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when bitcoin was 2 years old(2011) swinging by 100x in a few months ($0.30 to $30) was a big deal
we have not seen a 100x swing since

when bitcoin was 4 years old(2013) swinging by 85x in a year (jan $14 to dec $1.2k) was a big deal
we have not seen a 85x swing since

when bitcoin was 8 years old(2017) swinging by 20x in a year (jan $1k to dec $20k) was a big deal
we have not seen a 20x swing since

when bitcoin was 12 years old(2021) swinging by 3x in a year (jan $25k to nov $70k) was a big deal
we may see a 3-7x swing again

the swings are not getting wider. things are calming down

Bitcoin went from 3k in 2020 to 70k a year later no ? But ok indeed it's slowly getting less and less volatile

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