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January 25, 2023, 08:23:51 AM |
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In regards of my other thread, which ain't completely the same (you can find all the info over there) these people make false accusations and therefore don't belong here or does bitcointalk approve of sending out fake news?
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January 25, 2023, 08:52:21 AM |
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If you are talking about the false accusation/feedback on your profile, for your info, forum doesn't moderate trust feedback. So, don't expect any of them getting banned for tagging you. However, I have seen your other thread and for sure one more thread on the same topic isn't going to bring you any good result.
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January 25, 2023, 09:07:29 AM |
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JollyGood and ScamVirus can not be banned because they tag you, not part of the rules. If you are talking about the false accusation/feedback on your profile, for your info, forum doesn't moderate trust feedback.
If a user continue to use trust feedback to spam a user continuously, moderator will moderate that as it has happened in the past, someone showed me a link like that but I do not see the link again. But we can think that moderators do not moderate trust feedbacks, it is true because they do not interfere with it at all, just that spam exceptional case only was interfered. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 25, 2023, 09:20:09 AM |
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I believe you know there are procedures this platform would follow before anything of that nature you have said could be looked into. At first, these are senior forum members you are talking about for ban which would need you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt which you have none as I can see here. You made a comment about a previous thread but where is the link here, do you think people would believe you by just this mere post without any link to previous thread where you said you have started with such claims and also, no proof of your point on false accusations by the names as mentioned by you. I would advise you to let the bygone be bygones. Like as @little mouse has said, that forum does not moderate trust feedback and I think it would be difficult getting them banned for the tag on your account but you can still appeal your tag if you insist.
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January 25, 2023, 09:20:15 AM |
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JollyGood and ScamVirus can not be banned because they tag you, not part of the rules.
I didn't tag the OP. He has come to this condition because of his behavior. I said against 1xbit, I don't see why he would have a problem with that. If someone makes accusations, it is natural to ask for evidence to know more details. There are so many complaints against 1xbit if I support that gambler, what is his problem? He is busy making false arguments. I think he will be banned if he opens one thread after another!
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January 25, 2023, 09:28:23 AM |
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I believe you know there are procedures this platform would follow before anything of that nature you have said could be looked into. At first, these are senior forum members you are talking about for ban which would need you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt which you have none as I can see here. You made a comment about a previous thread but where is the link here, do you think people would believe you by just this mere post without any link to previous thread where you said you have started with such claims and also, no proof of your point on false accusations by the names as mentioned by you. I would advise you to let the bygone be bygones. Like as @little mouse has said, that forum does not moderate trust feedback and I think it would be difficult getting them banned for the tag on your account but you can still appeal your tag if you insist.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#newthats the thread, all evidence is in there (combined with the negative trust and 1xbit thread). I accuse them of making false accusations, because they have not provided any proof that what they say is real. So therefore they should be gone, maybe then the distrust is also gone, I don't know. The trust is just a part. Its not because someone is a senior member they know it all, in this case they clearly don't. So please investigate my comments and their comments and look at what proof people provided. JollyGood and ScamVirus can not be banned because they tag you, not part of the rules.
I didn't tag the OP. He has come to this condition because of his behavior. I said against 1xbit, I don't see why he would have a problem with that. If someone makes accusations, it is natural to ask for evidence to know more details. There are so many complaints against 1xbit if I support that gambler, what is his problem? He is busy making false arguments. I think he will be banned if he opens one thread after another! Again saying I make false arguments, where? Do you have proof?
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January 25, 2023, 12:23:06 PM |
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Before asking JollyGood to do anything for you, shouldn't you correct your own behavior? You sent two feedback to examplens and Rikafip, both seems inappropriate. Let's start working with it first before anything else.
I am not taking the opposite side, in fact I will want you to get the tag removed but you need to first prove yourself that you deserve it to raise a voice for you.
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January 25, 2023, 01:33:26 PM |
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Before asking JollyGood to do anything for you, shouldn't you correct your own behavior? You sent two feedback to examplens and Rikafip, both seems inappropriate. Let's start working with it first before anything else.
I told him that he can leave any feedback he wants to anyone and that he won't get banned for it or mods remove it so I guess that he is checking it by leaving that nonsense. What he obviously doesn't know is that if he keeps leaving such feedbacks he will end up excluded from trust list, like he just did from mine.
@MrBrightside1 you might wanna read LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system.
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January 25, 2023, 02:16:57 PM |
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They may not have tagged you had you provided proof in the form of signing a message from a wallet where your wd was sent to or something like that. If you are going to advocate for a site you have to be ready to show proof due to their reputation here on the forum.
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If you think they are going to be banned for that, then you are having the wildest of dreams First sort out your mess before people can back you up or even the ones who tagged can consider removing for changing the tags. What I am looking right now is you digging a deeper hole instead by sending stupid retaliatory feedback. Who in their normal senses is really going to support you with such feedback? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwmADkgm.png&t=665&c=GWcoZJ_v3_AswA)
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January 25, 2023, 03:06:15 PM |
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bitcointalk approve of sending out fake news? Bitcointalk doesn't decide what's right or wrong. Even you are allowed to post your name calling here: I have seen a lot of people like you, who better shut the fuck up instead of opening their mouth. If you cant give a constructive answer then get out idiot. Ignore from this account too ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 25, 2023, 03:47:41 PM Last edit: January 25, 2023, 03:59:38 PM by MrBrightside1 |
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If you think they are going to be banned for that, then you are having the wildest of dreams First sort out your mess before people can back you up or even the ones who tagged can consider removing for changing the tags. What I am looking right now is you digging a deeper hole instead by sending stupid retaliatory feedback. Who in their normal senses is really going to support you with such feedback? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwmADkgm.png&t=665&c=GWcoZJ_v3_AswA) Can those people prove me that what I said ain't real? (and yes the first feedback, there is proof, this whole conversation) Regarding the second example: Please provide a 24/24 lifetime footage of you and I will remove the negative feedback? Do you guys now actually see how ridiculous this is that you ask me to proof things? I DONT need to prove anything. (for the record I actually did an hour ago in the other tthread that it is my address, but I will never use any 3rd party or other thing, I send a specific amount to a specific address before the transactionw as confirmed on the chain). So again, can you act like normal beings and discuss in a normal way. FACT: I get false accusations, they provide no proof and should be reprimanded for it. Stop turning things around. Before asking JollyGood to do anything for you, shouldn't you correct your own behavior? You sent two feedback to examplens and Rikafip, both seems inappropriate. Let's start working with it first before anything else.
I told him that he can leave any feedback he wants to anyone and that he won't get banned for it or mods remove it so I guess that he is checking it by leaving that nonsense. What he obviously doesn't know is that if he keeps leaving such feedbacks he will end up excluded from trust list, like he just did from mine.
@MrBrightside1 you might wanna read LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system. Im reading that, but from what I can tell, it will still be visible right? Even if you lower the settings, a shit person can still give a feedback although its listed under the unaccurate one? Before asking JollyGood to do anything for you, shouldn't you correct your own behavior? You sent two feedback to examplens and Rikafip, both seems inappropriate. Let's start working with it first before anything else.
I am not taking the opposite side, in fact I will want you to get the tag removed but you need to first prove yourself that you deserve it to raise a voice for you.
I ,ike your post, but that second is just the same kind of feedback that they require from me. Like I explained above, if they start seeing that I do not need to prove anything, then neither does Rikafip and I will remove it.
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January 25, 2023, 04:00:32 PM |
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JollyGood and ScamVirus can not be banned because they tag you, not part of the rules.
I didn't tag the OP. He has come to this condition because of his behavior. I said against 1xbit, I don't see why he would have a problem with that. If someone makes accusations, it is natural to ask for evidence to know more details. There are so many complaints against 1xbit if I support that gambler, what is his problem? He is busy making false arguments. I think he will be banned if he opens one thread after another! Again saying I make false arguments, where? Do you have proof? What evidence do you want to see? I did not make any accusation against you, I supported the accusations against 1xbit. Stop your lies, you won't get anything back with this argument. Instead of proving your claim you are wasting time on this bad argument.
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OP, if you're calling a feedback left for you that you disagree with (or any disputed feedback) "false news" then you're watching way too much TV or mainstream media crap--and that's in addition to you creating a straw man argument.
And again, you've been here long enough to know that bitcointalk doesn't even ban scammers, so why the fuck do you think moderators or Theymos are going to get involved with making a judgement call on whether a feedback is rightly or wrongly given? Do you know how many of them are given each day? I don't, but I'm guessing the number is enormous, and there's no way in hell there's enough time or staff to handle disputes.
Just stop bitching. Nobody is going to jump in here to support you, because we've all got problems and nobody likes whiners.
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January 25, 2023, 04:07:39 PM |
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JollyGood and ScamVirus can not be banned because they tag you, not part of the rules.
I didn't tag the OP. He has come to this condition because of his behavior. I said against 1xbit, I don't see why he would have a problem with that. If someone makes accusations, it is natural to ask for evidence to know more details. There are so many complaints against 1xbit if I support that gambler, what is his problem? He is busy making false arguments. I think he will be banned if he opens one thread after another! Again saying I make false arguments, where? Do you have proof? What evidence do you want to see? I did not make any accusation against you, I supported the accusations against 1xbit. Stop your lies, you won't get anything back with this argument. Instead of proving your claim you are wasting time on this bad argument. I quote you: "OP If I am not mistaken, then you are the person who speaks bad language to that member whenever any member says something against 1xbit." Well here you are mistaken, I only acted against people whining and always saying the same, regarding individual cases of complaints I haven't said a word. So a false claim by you. Only the ones saying that I am a shill or that what I do is fake, only against them I react. OP, if you're calling a feedback left for you that you disagree with (or any disputed feedback) "false news" then you're watching way too much TV or mainstream media crap--and that's in addition to you creating a straw man argument.
And again, you've been here long enough to know that bitcointalk doesn't even ban scammers, so why the fuck do you think moderators or Theymos are going to get involved with making a judgement call on whether a feedback is rightly or wrongly given? Do you know how many of them are given each day? I don't, but I'm guessing the number is enormous, and there's no way in hell there's enough time or staff to handle disputes.
Just stop bitching. Nobody is going to jump in here to support you, because we've all got problems and nobody likes whiners.
Ok, but that says enough about this platform? If your community has no integrity, then you are a disgrace to humanity.
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January 25, 2023, 04:12:04 PM |
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A little suggestion to OP. Just use your trust setting and put the people that you trust in the forum if your concern is just the negative trust. And use the distrust function “~” on user that you didn’t like judgement on using the trust system. You are not a regular forum user and I think that distrusting someone that you don’t like will give you a better forum experience rather than to deal with them and act childish.
There’s rules in the forum and maybe you should start reading the Meta and Beginners and Help sticky to guide you.
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January 25, 2023, 04:21:31 PM |
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A little suggestion to OP. Just use your trust setting and put the people that you trust in the forum if your concern is just the negative trust. And use the distrust function “~” on user that you didn’t like judgement on using the trust system. You are not a regular forum user and I think that distrusting someone that you don’t like will give you a better forum experience rather than to deal with them and act childish.
There’s rules in the forum and maybe you should start reading the Meta and Beginners and Help sticky to guide you.
I'll tell you the reason why I asked for it, it was because one site that now made a post about me, said that I maybe should ask for it to be removed, I coudn't care less about you guys (no offence), I'm a misanthrope in that regard. But from my pov, if a site makes something that mentions me and then there is the negative trust, then users won't like it. So I did it for their good. Disclaimer; I have no benefits from that site, there is no affiliation of any kind, I dont even know if they care that much that I hate this platform. Nonetheless: the reason that trusted members are on vendetta's and suffering from confirmation bias, maybe means your whole trust system is garbage as is this platform if even after clear examples people don't understand the skill of arguing and providing evidence. Because acting childish? Are the people who not understand that I don't need to provide any evidence not the children? I only use it as a way to try to let you guys understand how wrong it is, but of course if the average guy here is incapable of understanding, says a lot of those guys (and the platform). So maybe it is time for those initial whiners, who make the false claims to look into their own. And I still await those users their coming to the light and I will remove my feedback, in the hope that they finally understand the point I make.
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Im reading that, but from what I can tell, it will still be visible right? Even if you lower the settings, a shit person can still give a feedback although its listed under the unaccurate one? Even if you are not on DT (which you will probably never be if you continue leaving feedbacks similar to the one you left me) your feedbacks will be visible, but only under "Untrusted feedback". The only ones who will see that under "Trusted Feedbacks" are those who include you in their Trust list. So again, can you act like normal beings and discuss in a normal way.
You should listen to your own advice. I tried to explain you how Trust system works around here, yet you behaved like a spoiled brat and left me that nonsense feedback. What you don't understand is that even though you are free to leave any feedback as you want, it will have some weight only if you are using that system correctly. Otherwise, everyone will just ignore it and will be worthless, like the one you left me.
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January 25, 2023, 04:25:40 PM |
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Im reading that, but from what I can tell, it will still be visible right? Even if you lower the settings, a shit person can still give a feedback although its listed under the unaccurate one? Even if you are not on DT (which you will probably never be if you continue leaving feedbacks similar to one you left me) your feedbacks will be visible, but only under "Untrusted feedback". The only ones who will see that under "Trusted Feedbacks" are those who include you in their Trust list. So again, can you act like normal beings and discuss in a normal way.
You should listen to your own advice. I tried to explain you how Trust system works around here, yet you behaved like a spoiled brat and left me that nonsense feedback. What you don't understand is that even though you are free to leave any feedback as you want, it will have some weight only if you are using that system correctly. Otherwise, everyone will just ignore it and will be worthless, like the one you left me. Do you understand I don't need to provide proof? That I have the benefit of the doubt? That those users first need to come with proof? Can you please get that? Instead of just defending the guys making the false accusations?
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January 25, 2023, 04:31:59 PM |
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Do you understand I don't need to provide proof? That I have the benefit of the doubt? That those users first need to come with proof? Can you please get that? Instead of just defending the guys making the false accusations?
You are the one who came here and claimed that 1xbit paid you 10 BTC, therefore burden of proof is on you. After you failed to do that, you got negative feedback. People around here are especially sensitive when it comes to 1xbit because they are regularly scamming people and using paid shillers, so when a member like you with no reputation here says something like that, people will ask for proof.
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