Admins, ban jollygood and scamvirus

[MrBrightside1]

Do you understand I don't need to provide proof? That I have the benefit of the doubt? That those users first need to come with proof?
Can you please get that? Instead of just defending the guys making the false accusations?

You are the one who came here and claimed that 1xbit paid you 10 BTC, therefore burden of proof is on you. After you failed to do that, you got negative feedback.

People around here are especially sensitive when it comes to 1xbit because they are regularly scamming people and using paid shillers, so when a member like you with no reputation here says something like that, people will ask for proof.

No it ain't there is where you are wrong, I just mentioned it and what you do with it is yours, but you can't claim it is false without prove. I couldn't care less about those other people, I use everything that happens with them and I make the best decision I can based on al the info I get. But I am not making accusations that what they said is false or right.

To go in even more detail, as I recall it has been some time, the guy asked for the transaction DI, which I already provided, so that is the reason why I started calling him an idiot. Then it became I need to sign (btw I even succumbed to do sonething like that, go look I made an announcement of a transaction with that address before it was confirmed on the chain), so after all I even provided the evidence, but will it ever be enough?

[ScamViruS]

JollyGood and ScamVirus can not be banned because they tag you, not part of the rules.

I didn't tag the OP. He has come to this condition because of his behavior. I said against 1xbit, I don't see why he would have a problem with that. If someone makes accusations, it is natural to ask for evidence to know more details.

There are so many complaints against 1xbit if I support that gambler, what is his problem? He is busy making false arguments. I think he will be banned if he opens one thread after another!

Again saying I make false arguments, where? Do you have proof?

What evidence do you want to see? I did not make any accusation against you, I supported the accusations against 1xbit. Stop your lies, you won't get anything back with this argument. Instead of proving your claim you are wasting time on this bad argument.

I quote you: "OP If I am not mistaken, then you are the person who speaks bad language to that member whenever any member says something against 1xbit."
Well here you are mistaken, I only acted against people whining and always saying the same, regarding individual cases of complaints I haven't said a word. So a false claim by you. Only the ones saying that I am a shill or that what I do is fake, only against them I react.

Your profile is enough proof for this, there is no need to provide it separately. You are showing your behavior so far here and that proves you have a behavior problem. You are asking the admin to ban me, without any reason. If you continue your activities like this you may get yourself banned.

I think the admin should ban you, this will reduce the pollution of this forum. Because you are arguing with everyone by posting one after another. Everyone tried to understand you but you don't agree to understand anything, you keep on arguing.

[MrBrightside1]

JollyGood and ScamVirus can not be banned because they tag you, not part of the rules.

I didn't tag the OP. He has come to this condition because of his behavior. I said against 1xbit, I don't see why he would have a problem with that. If someone makes accusations, it is natural to ask for evidence to know more details.

There are so many complaints against 1xbit if I support that gambler, what is his problem? He is busy making false arguments. I think he will be banned if he opens one thread after another!

Again saying I make false arguments, where? Do you have proof?

What evidence do you want to see? I did not make any accusation against you, I supported the accusations against 1xbit. Stop your lies, you won't get anything back with this argument. Instead of proving your claim you are wasting time on this bad argument.

I quote you: "OP If I am not mistaken, then you are the person who speaks bad language to that member whenever any member says something against 1xbit."
Well here you are mistaken, I only acted against people whining and always saying the same, regarding individual cases of complaints I haven't said a word. So a false claim by you. Only the ones saying that I am a shill or that what I do is fake, only against them I react.

Your profile is enough proof for this, there is no need to provide it separately. You are showing your behavior so far here and that proves you have a behavior problem. You are asking the admin to ban me, without any reason. If you continue your activities like this you may get yourself banned.

I think the admin should ban you, this will reduce the pollution of this forum. Because you are arguing with everyone by posting one after another.

What's with my profile, that I actually call people out if they say stupid things? That I am not here providing a daily contribution, but hop in from time to time when I "need" it, like the first time I went to 1xbit1 thread? Makes that me automatically ineligible to tell the truth?

[Adbitco]

These are the people who devote their time and efforts to make some personal research about members and their post over here, if they noticed you aren't honest it may warrants of giving bad feedback this doesn't mean they should get ban for no reason. And besides you should be the one to get ban if you may know, from your trust rating. jollygood is a reputable member who love digging into details about someone presentation to be either true or false. And if False then he will make it clear to you to show evidence of what you claimed of, If there is no clear evidence provided then he may leave a redtag on you.

[MrBrightside1]

These are the people who devote their time and efforts to make some personal research about members and their post over here, if they noticed you aren't honest it may warrants of giving bad feedback this doesn't mean they should get ban for no reason. And besides you should be the one to get ban if you may know, from your trust rating. jollygood is a reputable member who love digging into details about someone presentation to be either true or false. And if False then he will make it clear to you to show evidence of what you claimed of, If there is no clear evidence provided then he may leave a redtag on you.

These are the people that can't read, same as you. I have never been dishonest, so he has no proof. The guy is a first class idiot. I changed all of my feedback to an accurate thing and added some.

[Saisher]

Do you understand I don't need to provide proof? That I have the benefit of the doubt? That those users first need to come with proof?
Can you please get that? Instead of just defending the guys making the false accusations?

You are the one who came here and claimed that 1xbit paid you 10 BTC, therefore burden of proof is on you. After you failed to do that, you got negative feedback.

People around here are especially sensitive when it comes to 1xbit because they are regularly scamming people and using paid shillers, so when a member like you with no reputation here says something like that, people will ask for proof.

On his other thread, I ask him to sign the wallet where he was supposed to receive the 10 BTC from 1xbit because in the past we have seen how people shill this scam casino by posting that they received or won from 1xbit, people could not just believe that a casino with dubious reputation will send 10 BTC to one of their players, so failing to prove will result in getting you negative feedback.
Unfortunately, your wish will not be granted because you have a very poor reason, and sending negative feedback will not constitute banning, you have a lost cause on this one.

[Adbitco]

These are the people who devote their time and efforts to make some personal research about members and their post over here, if they noticed you aren't honest it may warrants of giving bad feedback this doesn't mean they should get ban for no reason. And besides you should be the one to get ban if you may know, from your trust rating. jollygood is a reputable member who love digging into details about someone presentation to be either true or false. And if False then he will make it clear to you to show evidence of what you claimed of, If there is no clear evidence provided then he may leave a redtag on you.

These are the people that can't read, same as you. I have never been dishonest, so he has no proof. The guy is a first class idiot. I changed all of my feedback to an accurate thing and added some.

I think It will be better I totally ignore you because I don't see any reason to reply here anymore.
Now I see why you were being tagged.

[MrBrightside1]

These are the people who devote their time and efforts to make some personal research about members and their post over here, if they noticed you aren't honest it may warrants of giving bad feedback this doesn't mean they should get ban for no reason. And besides you should be the one to get ban if you may know, from your trust rating. jollygood is a reputable member who love digging into details about someone presentation to be either true or false. And if False then he will make it clear to you to show evidence of what you claimed of, If there is no clear evidence provided then he may leave a redtag on you.

These are the people that can't read, same as you. I have never been dishonest, so he has no proof. The guy is a first class idiot. I changed all of my feedback to an accurate thing and added some.

I think It will be better I totally ignore you because I don't see any reason to reply here anymore.
Now I see why you were being tagged.

Do you understand I don't need to provide proof? That I have the benefit of the doubt? That those users first need to come with proof?
Can you please get that? Instead of just defending the guys making the false accusations?

You are the one who came here and claimed that 1xbit paid you 10 BTC, therefore burden of proof is on you. After you failed to do that, you got negative feedback.

People around here are especially sensitive when it comes to 1xbit because they are regularly scamming people and using paid shillers, so when a member like you with no reputation here says something like that, people will ask for proof.

On his other thread, I ask him to sign the wallet where he was supposed to receive the 10 BTC from 1xbit because in the past we have seen how people shill this scam casino by posting that they received or won from 1xbit, people could not just believe that a casino with dubious reputation will send 10 BTC to one of their players, so failing to prove will result in getting you negative feedback.
Unfortunately, your wish will not be granted because you have a very poor reason, and sending negative feedback will not constitute banning, you have a lost cause on this one.

BOTH OF YOU IDIOTS SHOULD GO TO THE THREAD AND READ WHAT I SAID.
I have just proven that I have the ownership of the address. I announced an action by that address before it was confirmed on the blockchain, you can verify through time stamps.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#new
ANd I remain with this: there is no need that I need to provide evidence but dealing with a bunch of monkeys like you I succumbed. If you call me arrogant fine, I am not shilling, I am not scamming. I know one other thing you guys are dumb!

[ScamViruS]

What's with my profile, that I actually call people out if they say stupid things? That I am not here providing a daily contribution, but hop in from time to time when I "need" it, like the first time I went to 1xbit1 thread? Makes that me automatically ineligible to tell the truth?

I think it's best to ignore this user. Better to focus elsewhere than reading such nonsense. No matter how much you try to convince him, he will think that everyone is giving him priority.

This nonsense argument of yours will not help to remove your tag. This should have been resolved by talking to the person who tagged you like a gentleman. But you got into arguments with everyone, so now no one cares about you. From now on I also ignore you, I don't want to argue with you anymore.

[MrBrightside1]

What's with my profile, that I actually call people out if they say stupid things? That I am not here providing a daily contribution, but hop in from time to time when I "need" it, like the first time I went to 1xbit1 thread? Makes that me automatically ineligible to tell the truth?

I think it's best to ignore this user. Better to focus elsewhere than reading such nonsense. No matter how much you try to convince him, he will think that everyone is giving him priority.

This nonsense argument of yours will not help to remove your tag. This should have been resolved by talking to the person who tagged you like a gentleman. But you got into arguments with everyone, so now no one cares about you. From now on I also ignore you, I don't want to argue with you anymore.

It all originates from the following sentence:
If I sign the address then the address is mine.
I did not sign the address, but you guys jump making conclusions.
This is a fallacy and if you don't believe me.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Denying-the-Antecedent
So as you can see it's normal logic, but if you don't have the capacity to understand this, better go back to school idiots.

[robelneo]

What's with my profile, that I actually call people out if they say stupid things? That I am not here providing a daily contribution, but hop in from time to time when I "need" it, like the first time I went to 1xbit1 thread? Makes that me automatically ineligible to tell the truth?

I think it's best to ignore this user. Better to focus elsewhere than reading such nonsense. No matter how much you try to convince him, he will think that everyone is giving him priority.

This nonsense argument of yours will not help to remove your tag. This should have been resolved by talking to the person who tagged you like a gentleman. But you got into arguments with everyone, so now no one cares about you. From now on I also ignore you, I don't want to argue with you anymore.

It all originates from the following sentence:
If I sign the address then the address is mine.
I did not sign the address, but you guys jump making conclusions.
This is a fallacy and if you don't believe me.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Denying-the-Antecedent
So as you can see it's normal logic, but if you don't have the capacity to understand this, better go back to school idiots.

I'd like to take @ScamViruS advice but just can't help posting how ignorant he is if he is using a custodial wallet he could just post that he cannot sign because he is using a custodial wallet there are otherways to verify that, if he is using a non-custodial wallet then he has no reason why he cannot sign the wallet.
All he has to do is sign the wallet the instruction is already given why make a lengthy discussion out of it.

[MrBrightside1]

What's with my profile, that I actually call people out if they say stupid things? That I am not here providing a daily contribution, but hop in from time to time when I "need" it, like the first time I went to 1xbit1 thread? Makes that me automatically ineligible to tell the truth?

I think it's best to ignore this user. Better to focus elsewhere than reading such nonsense. No matter how much you try to convince him, he will think that everyone is giving him priority.

This nonsense argument of yours will not help to remove your tag. This should have been resolved by talking to the person who tagged you like a gentleman. But you got into arguments with everyone, so now no one cares about you. From now on I also ignore you, I don't want to argue with you anymore.

It all originates from the following sentence:
If I sign the address then the address is mine.
I did not sign the address, but you guys jump making conclusions.
This is a fallacy and if you don't believe me.
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Denying-the-Antecedent
So as you can see it's normal logic, but if you don't have the capacity to understand this, better go back to school idiots.

I'd like to take @ScamViruS advice but just can't help posting how ignorant he is if he is using a custodial wallet he could just post that he cannot sign because he is using a custodial wallet there are otherways to verify that, if he is using a non-custodial wallet then he has no reason why he cannot sign the wallet.
All he has to do is sign the wallet the instruction is already given why make a lengthy discussion out of it.

I did an alternative thing to prove it is my wallet I finally succumbed to all the critic. You can find it in the other thread.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#new
I made a post about a transaction before it was confirmed on the chain.
(but I also think they are ignorant for just throwing out accusations, see the fallacy I posted, it's not because I didn't sign that it automatically is not my address)
Oh and for the record, first jollygood requested a transaction ID (which I provided) but then it was needs to sign. So again now, I provided proof that the address is mine, but do you think they will now believe that it is my address? For all I know they say I am now one of the company, and it's just a company address, so normal I have access to it. So there will never be 100% proof that it is mine, but they just can't throw out these bullshit reasonings.

[logfiles]

Can those people prove me that what I said ain't real? (and yes the first feedback, there is proof, this whole conversation)
Regarding the second example: Please provide a 24/24 lifetime footage of you and I will remove the negative feedback?

Do you guys now actually see how ridiculous this is that you ask me to proof things? I DONT need to prove anything. (for the record I actually did an hour ago in the other tthread that it is my address, but I will never use any 3rd party or other thing, I send a specific amount to a specific address before the transactionw as confirmed on the chain).

So again, can you act like normal beings and discuss in a normal way.

FACT: I get false accusations, they provide no proof and should be reprimanded for it. Stop turning things around.

I think you didn't get my point.

Let me rephrase it.
If someone tags you for something you believe is false, prove them wrong, and I can assure you some members will support you and perhaps tell that DT member to reverse their feedback since it doesn't seem right or they could even distrust him/her.

But if you go on overreacting and sending retaliatory feedback to anyone you feel disagreed with you, then most people are just going to back off and not even look into your case.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

If someone tags you for something you believe is false, prove them wrong,

Sometimes it's better if the accuser brings enough proofs and then go for tag or anything they want. If anyone needs to prove anything then it should be the accuser not the person who was accused. I don't want to name anyone which will definitely bring the conversation back which I don't want it to be in discussion again.

The campaign manager accused his client was told that they should not hire him (the campaign manger) and it was told by another forum member.

In this case if you, as the another user (the one was accused) indeed did not do that then how would you prove that you did not do anything. But if you indeed did then here are no point for you to prove anything but since there will be a pressure to cover it, you can just act that you do not know anything. So what the community will do then? My guess is their history will be taken in consideration.

In OPs case since he/she does not have a history to judge, it's easy to miss-understand him perhaps.

[MrBrightside1]

Can those people prove me that what I said ain't real? (and yes the first feedback, there is proof, this whole conversation)
Regarding the second example: Please provide a 24/24 lifetime footage of you and I will remove the negative feedback?

Do you guys now actually see how ridiculous this is that you ask me to proof things? I DONT need to prove anything. (for the record I actually did an hour ago in the other tthread that it is my address, but I will never use any 3rd party or other thing, I send a specific amount to a specific address before the transactionw as confirmed on the chain).

So again, can you act like normal beings and discuss in a normal way.

FACT: I get false accusations, they provide no proof and should be reprimanded for it. Stop turning things around.

I think you didn't get my point.

Let me rephrase it.
If someone tags you for something you believe is false, prove them wrong, and I can assure you some members will support you and perhaps tell that DT member to reverse their feedback since it doesn't seem right or they could even distrust him/her.

But if you go on overreacting and sending retaliatory feedback to anyone you feel disagreed with you, then most people are just going to back off and not even look into your case.

GUYS I PROVIDED PROOF THAT I AM THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!!! go look
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#new

If someone tags you for something you believe is false, prove them wrong,

Sometimes it's better if the accuser brings enough proofs and then go for tag or anything they want. If anyone needs to prove anything then it should be the accuser not the person who was accused. I don't want to name anyone which will definitely bring the conversation back which I don't want it to be in discussion again.

The campaign manager accused his client was told that they should not hire him (the campaign manger) and it was told by another forum member.

In this case if you, as the another user (the one was accused) indeed did not do that then how would you prove that you did not do anything. But if you indeed did then here are no point for you to prove anything but since there will be a pressure to cover it, you can just act that you do not know anything. So what the community will do then? My guess is their history will be taken in consideration.

In OPs case since he/she does not have a history to judge, it's easy to miss-understand him perhaps.

Why can the others not think like you (the accuser providing the evidence and not the accused, this is common practice IRL) But like I said above I now even provided it (while I still stay with my point that I shouldn't)

[logfiles]

Sometimes it's better if the accuser brings enough proofs and then go for tag or anything they want. If anyone needs to prove anything then it should be the accuser not the person who was accused. I don't want to name anyone which will definitely bring the conversation back which I don't want it to be in discussion again.

This could be either way though, depending on the situation. If there is a scam site around and some newbie account came up and said that he managed to withdraw a sizeable amount out of it, obviously the first instinct from members would be show the proof or else it's just a shill, right?

I am one person who doesn't like 1xbit, but my negative feedback is mostly for those who advertise it knowing that it's a scam. With cases such as OP's, I don't just leave feedback anyhow.

I had to dig deep to find the post that lead to OP getting tagged.

Could this be it?

Hello @1xbit_official
I have been gambling a long time now at 1xbit, never had any problems even with large withdrawals like 10BTC, they were always very fast not gonna lie about that despite all the other remarks on the web.
However now I made a withdrawal it was rejected and support told me to try again later. So when I try to make a new withdrawal, it seems all my withdrawal options are gone and after contacting support again they told me that I have to contact security, I did so yesterday, but I haven't received any kind of answer yet. So maybe its a little bit fast to contact you here, but could you maybe look into it?
Kind regards

I want to draw my conclusions after knowing why exactly OP was tagged

In OPs case since he/she does not have a history to judge, it's easy to miss-understand him perhaps.

You are right.

[Rikafip]

I had to dig deep to find the post that lead to OP getting tagged
Could this be it?
...

Yep, that was the first post made by MrBrightside1, that started all this mess. After that JollyGood asked him to provide some evidence that he is indeed received 10 BTC from 1xbit, and after he failed to sign the message, he tagged him few days later.

First proof is a clickable link to a blockchain website such as blockchain.com/blockchair.com that shows you sent funds from your BTC wallet to the 1xbit scammers.

The second proof is a clickable link to a blockchain website such as blockchain.com/blockchair.com that shows the 1xbit scammers sent funds from their BTC wallet to your wallet.

The third would be for you to sign that address that you received funds from the 1xbit scammers with a message to prove you own it.

@JollyGood did you have time to check if what he is saying correct?

GUYS I PROVIDED PROOF THAT I AM THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!!! go look
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#new

[MrBrightside1]

Sometimes it's better if the accuser brings enough proofs and then go for tag or anything they want. If anyone needs to prove anything then it should be the accuser not the person who was accused. I don't want to name anyone which will definitely bring the conversation back which I don't want it to be in discussion again.

This could be either way though, depending on the situation. If there is a scam site around and some newbie account came up and said that he managed to withdraw a sizeable amount out of it, obviously the first instinct from members would be show the proof or else it's just a shill, right?

I am one person who doesn't like 1xbit, but my negative feedback is mostly for those who advertise it knowing that it's a scam. With cases such as OP's, I don't just leave feedback anyhow.

I had to dig deep to find the post that lead to OP getting tagged.

Could this be it?

Hello @1xbit_official
I have been gambling a long time now at 1xbit, never had any problems even with large withdrawals like 10BTC, they were always very fast not gonna lie about that despite all the other remarks on the web.
However now I made a withdrawal it was rejected and support told me to try again later. So when I try to make a new withdrawal, it seems all my withdrawal options are gone and after contacting support again they told me that I have to contact security, I did so yesterday, but I haven't received any kind of answer yet. So maybe its a little bit fast to contact you here, but could you maybe look into it?
Kind regards

I want to draw my conclusions after knowing why exactly OP was tagged

In OPs case since he/she does not have a history to judge, it's easy to miss-understand him perhaps.

You are right.

Exactly, I didn't shill, I have no signature campaign. I came here because I had an issue. Could I still be this "sock puppet" yes, but does signing those things make any difference? NO
And like you do, just don't give me any feedback unless you can prove that I am actually that "sock puppet".

I had to dig deep to find the post that lead to OP getting tagged
Could this be it?
...

Yep, that was the first post made by MrBrightside1, that started all this mess. After that JollyGood asked him to provide some evidence that he is indeed received 10 BTC from 1xbit, and after he failed to sign the message, he tagged him few days later.

First proof is a clickable link to a blockchain website such as blockchain.com/blockchair.com that shows you sent funds from your BTC wallet to the 1xbit scammers.

The second proof is a clickable link to a blockchain website such as blockchain.com/blockchair.com that shows the 1xbit scammers sent funds from their BTC wallet to your wallet.

The third would be for you to sign that address that you received funds from the 1xbit scammers with a message to prove you own it.

@JollyGood did you have time to check if what he is saying correct?

GUYS I PROVIDED PROOF THAT I AM THE OWNER!!!!!!!!!!!! go look
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436623.new#new

Regarding this, I didnt use a third party service or anything and I never will! But I hope people are smart enough to understand what I did. (but you have to look at the time of the message/post and the time of the transaction although it's also highly remarkable that after more than a yar that address became suddenly active while I became active here). But I repeat, I shouldn't be doing it and it even doesn't lead to anything, might as well be a company wallet, but with your practice how many innocents would end up in jail because of your "feeling".

Oh @Rikafip regarding your feedback, you don't get the point of it, not to mention your reference is no longer applicable because I changed it to an accurate feedback.

[Rikafip]

But I repeat, I shouldn't be doing it and it even doesn't lead to anything, might as well be a company wallet, but with your practice how many innocents would end up in jail because of your "feeling".

You are barking at the wrong tree, I am not the one who left you the negative feedback, JollyGood did. And he is the only one that can remove it.

Oh @Rikafip regarding your feedback, you don't get the point of it, not to mention your reference is no longer applicable because I changed it to an accurate feedback.

Accurate maybe according to you, but looking at the feedbacks you left so far, you are still using them inappropriately

[MrBrightside1]

But I repeat, I shouldn't be doing it and it even doesn't lead to anything, might as well be a company wallet, but with your practice how many innocents would end up in jail because of your "feeling".

You are barking at the wrong tree, I am not the one who left you the negative feedback, JollyGood did. And he is the only one that can remove it.

Oh @Rikafip regarding your feedback, you don't get the point of it, not to mention your reference is no longer applicable because I changed it to an accurate feedback.

Accurate maybe according to you, but looking at the feedbacks you left so far, you are still using them inappropriately

It ain't because you didn't leave me negative feedback, that I shouldn't call you out for your BS reasoning.

And yes it's very accurate now, every person that doesn't understand the fact that I have no obligation to proof (I mean I actually can't disproof his claim about me being a "sock puppet", because like I said, the wallet might be a company wallet), so nice world you want to live in.

@scamvirus can you please tell me where I LIED? I mean give it to me, I even now provided proof and you say I LIE? Based on what? My account?