Why we do not have an official YT/social media channel to counter mainstream?

[elevates]

EL Salvador has set an example for other economically unstable countries to adopt Bitcoin as a legal tender. What a day for the global Bitcoin community and those who believe in it. What pisses me off is that none of the mainstream media that printed or posted or telecasted negative implications of Bitcoin being a legal tender have not posted any news of this achievement.

Media outlets like Yahoo, Bloomberg, and many more had said last year that El Salvador will default on their $800m sovereign debt because they adopted Bitcoin. I am aware of how these biased and banks sponsored content/media work. What I am unhappy and frustrated with are those people who read last year's news would still believe that Bitcoin is a failure.

We need a mechanism to stop this nonsense from mainstream media. We as a community should come up with an idea to counter the mainstream media and I think an official channel of Bitcointalk which is also active should be on Youtube or on other social media as a start. I know there have been discussions in the past about the same but when so many members on this forum are making good money with the signature campaigns a little bit of donation for this cause will help the community in the long term.

[mindrust]

There are more than enough youtubers on youtube that are crypto fans. How do you know if btt isn't on youtube? I think most of us that have a youtube channel is talking about crypto there. Just because people have a channel on youtube doesn't mean that they should link their forum account to their youtube channel.

I used to know a few famous youtubers that write in this forum but I can't remember their nicknames now. We are more crowded than you think.

[Helena Yu]

We already have it TheBitcoinTalkShow - 5 feb - Bitcointalk was hacked although it's an unofficial Bitcointalk youtube channel.

The reason why the Bitcointalk youtube channel is may likely lack of presenter, all of the 5 videos are have same presenter, maybe he's busy enough. Do you want to volunteering become the presenter?

[NeuroticFish]

We need a mechanism to stop this nonsense from mainstream media. We as a community should come up with an idea to counter the mainstream media and I think an official channel of Bitcointalk which is also active should be on Youtube as a start.

So your solution for countering mainstream media is... to use mainstream media channels.
Well, for your surprise, bitcointalk does have a YouTube channel, see discussion in this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351302.0
It's a fun channel though, hence probably not what you'd expect.

I think that a more impressive approach is CZ buying a big bunch of shares at Forbes (iirc), hence maybe allowing him watch over what they're publishing....

[elevates]

We already have it TheBitcoinTalkShow - 5 feb - Bitcointalk was hacked although it's an unofficial Bitcointalk youtube channel.

The reason why the Bitcointalk youtube channel is may likely lack of presenter, all of the 5 videos are have same presenter, maybe he's busy enough. Do you want to volunteering become the presenter?

What I am asking is an official Youtube channel of Bitcointalk after all Youtube is known as the second biggest search engine after Google.

So your solution for countering mainstream media is... to use mainstream media channels.

Yes, as they provide a global audience and for countering mainstream media you need to use their platform and excel in it.

I think that a more impressive approach is CZ buying a big bunch of shares at Forbes (iirc), hence maybe allowing him watch over what they're publishing....

If you believe in CZ then I have nothing to say.

[Helena Yu]

What I am asking is an official Youtube channel of Bitcointalk after all Youtube is known as the second biggest search engine after Google.

If you mean creating a video in youtube channel will gain more traffic and attract new people rather than this forum, there's no purpose to posting in this forum anymore since youtube is better than this forum.

I don't think it will work because Bitcointalk channel will have very small subscriber and educational video wouldn't become popular like youtuber which create video about clickbait trading and make thousand dollars in less than a hour etc.



However I think this person already explain very good about shitcoins, NFT, centralization and other Bitcoin enemies.

[NeuroticFish]

I think that a more impressive approach is CZ buying a big bunch of shares at Forbes (iirc), hence maybe allowing him watch over what they're publishing....

If you believe in CZ then I have nothing to say.

All I've said that his move is more impressive than what you think a bitcointalk YouTube channel would achieve. I certainly don't understand what you'd expect from putting our work onto Google's servers, where they can censor at will, hence allowing only what suits them best. Do you really think that those truly interested won't find this forum?!?!

And about believing him or not... the fact that you are jumping to conclusions like this tells a lot...

[elevates]

If you mean creating a video in youtube channel will gain more traffic and attract new people rather than this forum, there's no purpose to posting in this forum anymore since youtube is better than this forum.

It is the narrative I am questioning not the forum. To counter such a narrative you need a tool and that tool is available for free it does requires some money. Do not come to conclusion so early!

I don't think it will work because Bitcointalk channel will have very small subscriber and educational video wouldn't become popular like youtuber which create video about clickbait trading and make thousand dollars in less than a hour etc.

I never talked about subscribers or revenue. This forum is not enough to counter those who are spreading negative information about Bitcoin. It is 2023 we need to evolve as a community and also BTT.  

[Accardo]

I never talked about subscribers or revenue. This forum is not enough to counter those who are spreading negative information about Bitcoin. It is 2023 we need to evolve as a community and also BTT.  

What then is the forum doing? The forum provides answers to people's questions, give recent information about cryptocurrency, and direct investors towards the right investment; what kind of project to avoid. You are only misinterpreting what content is about. Some YouTubers gets their research from this forum, which is the function of written contents. It's how videos are created. That doesn't mean, you can't create a channel and cover updates coming from this forum there. But, suggesting a YouTube channel for the forum is like saying the forum is not doing enough work using this medium. Most threads rank on Google first page and that's enough publicity for people who seek for help.

However, it's always good to use other mediums, but I've not seen a forum with a YouTube channel, blogs do. We can only use what we have to get results. No much difference between the main stream media and this forum in terms of crypto. Many people understands that the truth can be found here and that most times the main media get manipulated. What matters is the fact that the content on this forum is more than enough and ranks easily on Google like the mainstream media.

[mk4]

Unless you have enough budget to actually go against mainstream media, then you're likely to not end up doing anything meaningful. Like, there have been so much FUD since the past years even though there are lots of good content out there that already have debunked most FUD — but yet, here we are with still lots of FUD.

[Lucius]

EL Salvador has set an example for other economically unstable countries to adopt Bitcoin as a legal tender. What a day for the global Bitcoin community and those who believe in it. What pisses me off is that none of the mainstream media that printed or posted or telecasted negative implications of Bitcoin being a legal tender have not posted any news of this achievement.

What are the effects of what El Salvador did - do you have data showing how much Bitcoin as legal tender has changed anything in that country? The media has always been mostly negative towards everything that has to do with Bitcoin, but the reason lies in their owners trying to protect their interests.

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We need a mechanism to stop this nonsense from mainstream media. We as a community should come up with an idea to counter the mainstream media and I think an official channel of Bitcointalk which is also active should be on Youtube as a start. I know there have been discussions in the past about the same but when so many members on this forum are making good money with the signature campaigns a little bit of donation for this cause will help the community in the long term.

Do you want to fight against the most powerful media corporations with one YT channel? Well, it's like going with a wooden gun at the most powerful tank or shooting a fighter plane with a slingshot. In addition, it is not that there are no initiatives to debunk some lies such as to denounce Faketoshi or to dispel the myth that Bitcoin is dangerous for the environment, but one should be realistic with the set goals.

If the forum decided to do something about your idea, then donations would not even be necessary considering that the forum has enough resources to finance such a project.

[virasog]

Unless you have enough budget to actually go against mainstream media, then you're likely to not end up doing anything meaningful. Like, there have been so much FUD since the past years even though there are lots of good content out there that already have debunked most FUD — but yet, here we are with still lots of FUD.

Infact we just cannot compete with the mainstream media. Most of the media houses and crypto new sites are influenced by the whales. They have enough money to buy these media houses and produce the news in their favor.

Even if bitcointalk has an active YouTube channel, it would not so popular as the bitcointalk site. Also, we can still compete with the media through this forum and there is no need for any video competition.

[Findingnemo]

There is no official in the decentralization so we have to fight against the centralized power with the community and everyone is free to express their opinion about cryptos and when the news is legit it will get awareness about certain range but remember still we are posting them on the centralized media so if there is a day when we have complete freedom to express what we want to tell and there is no censorship then we may achieve the highest reach as possible.

[elevates]

Unless you have enough budget to actually go against mainstream media, then you're likely to not end up doing anything meaningful. Like, there have been so much FUD since the past years even though there are lots of good content out there that already have debunked most FUD — but yet, here we are with still lots of FUD.

In the beginning, we can start with a small budget. We can request forum community members to follow as well as share the information provided in those videos. The other option is to create a child board on the YT channel and the rest would be taken care. I am not looking to compete with the mainstream media but want the forum to have a mouthpiece of its own on any social media. The forum itself would not be sufficient to fight those lies. We need a social media channel to counter them.

Infact we just cannot compete with the mainstream media. Most of the media houses and crypto new sites are influenced by the whales. They have enough money to buy these media houses and produce the news in their favor.

Even if bitcointalk has an active YouTube channel, it would not so popular as the bitcointalk site. Also, we can still compete with the media through this forum and there is no need for any video competition.

Let's take Twitter or Reddit in place of YT, are there any official active media handles of Bitcointalk? No, then how can we compete with any media houses which are trying to defame Bitcoin every time? Apart from the forum, we need a tool to fight against those lies and FUD. There are many here who would love to volunteer for such a cause. I am ready and I think many here would be too.

[electronicash]

don't be surprised. even the people in the forum are not very happy about Bitcoin being the legal tender in El Salvador. they hate Kax Keiser either. the forum somehow has people that don't like BTC being the reason for the country to success. El Salvador had gone enough using the USD as thier currency. they don't have thier own.

but I think The Orange Pill youtube channel of Max Keiser and Stacy is countering fud already.

[Welsh]

Ultimately, we're a discussion based forum. We aren't typically cut out for presenting. Now, that's no knock on Cyrus, and co because what they've done has been entertaining. However, that format doesn't exactly get views. Just look at Youtube, and the most popular videos the format is almost always the same. Unfortunately, Bitcoin probably isn't interesting enough to the vast majority, and therefore trying to come up with a format that works, as well as be entertaining enough is difficult. I'll reiterate, we're a discussion based forum so an official Youtube channel would likely have to be related to the forum, right? However, I can't think of a format that would be entertaining to those outside of the forum.

You'd get outliers being interested, but you could never generate viral content to achieve what you're suggesting. Cryptocurrencies are already peddled by other bigger unrelated Youtubers, and therefore that's the impression viewers get of cryptocurrency. We can't combat that as a forum, simply because we're a discussion forum. Now, certain individuals which basically gain a following via their personality, and not because of the forum could work. However, that's still nothing to do with the forum then. 

[elevates]

Ultimately, we're a discussion based forum. We aren't typically cut out for presenting. Now, that's no knock on Cyrus, and co because what they've done has been entertaining. However, that format doesn't exactly get views. Just look at Youtube, and the most popular videos the format is almost always the same. Unfortunately, Bitcoin probably isn't interesting enough to the vast majority, and therefore trying to come up with a format that works, as well as be entertaining enough is difficult. I'll reiterate, we're a discussion based forum so an official Youtube channel would likely have to be related to the forum, right? However, I can't think of a format that would be entertaining to those outside of the forum.

You'd get outliers being interested, but you could never generate viral content to achieve what you're suggesting. Cryptocurrencies are already peddled by other bigger unrelated Youtubers, and therefore that's the impression viewers get of cryptocurrency. We can't combat that as a forum, simply because we're a discussion forum. Now, certain individuals which basically gain a following via their personality, and not because of the forum could work. However, that's still nothing to do with the forum then.  

Okay! I understand what you have said about YT. What about having a social media mouthpiece that can enable us as a community to counter those lies and constant FUD? We can use any centralized platform like YT, Twitter, or Reddit and there are many here who can volunteer as MODS for free.

It is 2023 and we need a social media weapon to counter those who have been preaching negative and irrelevant shit about Bitcoin. Even most governments have their mouthpiece either on Twitter or Instagram. We need a social media branch to counter these shitholes that are constantly trying to pollute our financial independence.

If Bitcointalk cannot be on social media then we should get a child board that can help us individual YT or any social media influencer/enthusiast, who talk as well as counter negative information. As a community, I am sure we will view, share and subscribe to those handles and spread positive news

[mk4]

In the beginning, we can start with a small budget. We can request forum community members to follow as well as share the information provided in those videos. The other option is to create a child board on the YT channel and the rest would be taken care. I am not looking to compete with the mainstream media but want the forum to have a mouthpiece of its own on any social media. The forum itself would not be sufficient to fight those lies. We need a social media channel to counter them.

You're probably overestimating how much power the Bitcointalk community has. In the grand scheme of things — taking into consideration both Reddit and Twitter communities, Bitcointalk is just a drop in the bucket — a very small minority.

[Welsh]

My question would be; are we responsible for the negative news out there about Bitcoin? Are we even capable of combating that, as mk4 suggests; we're a very small minority, and for those involved in Bitcoin they generally know when the news is talking crap. However, the one's that we'd actually want to make an impression on unfortunately will rely on their mainstream new's which are sometimes even funded by public funds or the government. We can't really compete against that no matter the budget.

If someone is sick enough of their current money system, they'll find an alternative. We just need to make sure the process of getting into Bitcoin isn't cumbersome enough to prevent them from progressing. Bitcoin is still quite complex to understand, whereas fiat you don't necessarily need to understand the whole system to use it. Bitcoin has, made some good steps over the years though to becoming a little more simple to use. Still, not quite there yet though. That's what I think we should be focusing on, instead of combating a losing battle.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

We need a mechanism to stop this nonsense from mainstream media. We as a community should come up with an idea to counter the mainstream media and I think an official channel of Bitcointalk which is also active should be on Youtube or on other social media as a start.

No.  That channel was supposed to be primarily about forum happenings, and apparently whoever started it got pooped out very quickly.  It wasn't intended--nor should it have been--to be just another bitcoin-hyping Youtube channel.  There are plenty of those, and they all suck dicks.

I'd also pose the question as to whether people in El Salvador are turning to bitcoin instead of another stable fiat currency.  I recall hearing lots of stories about how much bitcoin and alts like Dash were being used in Venezuela during their hyperinflationary crisis, but from what I've heard since those reports were exaggerated at best.  My point is that if mainstream media isn't telling the truth about something, that ought to be challenged, but in an appropriate venue.  Bitcointalk's YT channel isn't appropriate at all.