Loan Defaulted [SiNeReiNZzz]

[holydarkness]

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Anyway, the person who is operating the telegram is aware of the scam of this fund.

This is a very curios case for me as well for the reason said numerous times here that the amount dued can be paid with small efforts by such rank and reputation of the borrower and I can't fathom a reason of deliberate default for such amount with "collateral" as high as their account. Just in case, yesterday I notified the person who operates their TG as well.

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[shasan]

I have just checked and came to know that on telegram the was inactive for about a week though yesterday I noticed the showed recently. And before taking the screenshot it showed me last seen within a week and now showing recently. That means the bitcointalk forum account has not been hacked. So, now I think the borrower is no more or in jail or changed ownership. But at the time of the loan which telegram account was used to conversation is still active even it has been active before few seconds/minutes of posting this.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

@shasan, looks like you are doing charity on the forum LOL. I am wondering this business eventually is making you profit or you are in huge loss? I saw several of your threads with loan default and I feel that you have lost a handful number of bitcoin so far.

Sorry for your loss brother. Flag supported and left a feedback too.

It's obvious that he is ignoring you. Reading all these text from notification but not tapping the conversation so that you think he has not seen it.

[seek3r]

My first thought when I saw that he hasn't been online since March 2022 was that maybe something has happened to him, but I guess that's not the case.

Yeah can confirm that he was active on the Stake German chat. Wasn't that active for the last 1 1/2 months but might have a look at it.

He was active on twitter last November so nothing happened to him since the loan.
I will keep my eyes open if I can spot him in Stake German chat.

Maybe we can catch him there and give him the hint to watch this thread. Maybe it's just a misunderstanding and he's paying off his debt.
The chance is there, but as you've already correctly pointed out, he's a gambler and every single satoshi counts. In this case, the mind probably stops, so that one puts his entire reputation at risk. 

[shasan]

@shasan, looks like you are doing charity on the forum LOL. I am wondering this business eventually is making you profit or you are in huge loss? I saw several of your threads with loan default and I feel that you have lost a handful number of bitcoin so far.

Before providing 2022 I was at a huge loss but day by day the ratio of defaulters decreased and try to recover the loss. Don't know when the loss will start increasing again and again. Still, I do not want to stop this service as many forum members actually need the loan. They can manage funds but that is time sensitive. For the right people, this forum is the easiest way to take a loan. Note: The main default is more than you can see on the scam accusation thread.

It's obvious that he is ignoring you. Reading all these text from notification but not tapping the conversation so that you think he has not seen it.

You are obviously right that the person who is operating the telegram is ignoring me.  But I doubt that is operating by the borrower.

[sheenshane]

Supporting the flag as well, let me know if this (scammer) borrower will wake up and pay you.

I'm also a borrower and I understand that sometimes we're in a situation where we can't able to pay our debt as promised date but it's not good if you'll disappear nowhere.  I know OP is very understanding when it comes to a situation like this and gives an extention if ever.  But being inactive shows no interest to pay.

Hopefully, that borrower will pay.

[shasan]

I understand that sometimes we're in a situation where we can't able to pay our debt as promised date but it's not good if you'll disappear nowhere.  I know OP is very understanding when it comes to a situation like this and gives extinction if ever.

Borrowers take loans for emergencies and if face any problems. And until recovered the situation borrower can't repay the full amount in this case there is nothing to do. We have to extend the repayment time. But those who leave the forum there might have an unknown reasons but those who are online on the forum and/or online on other communication gateway but have no response/communication means defaulting on the loan.

[Sarah Azhari]

Since he is also a gambler we know where the money might have gone.

Very sad to waste a legendary account because of this.

Hope you somehow get it back Shasan.

The SiNeReiNZzz is a legendary member this amount could be gained only less than a month by joining on the signature campaign. I could not understand the reason for defaulting on the loan. The has had several green/positive trusts too on his/her profile. I am a loser but SiNeReiNZzz is more loser than me as his/her profile was more valuable than my fund.

I can't guess where that exact money run, but still this is the money, because at that time: 12th November 2021, the bitcoin price is about $64K which means he got about $640. I believe at that time he was planning it to steal it. $600 is big money (for me) maybe the same for him, I can do anything with that money, I heard the Legendary account is matching that price, so indirectly he sold his legendary account without bothering to open stall.

the problem here is very easy to rank up, the scammer who stolen money will back here as a newbie and rank up easily because know trick how to rank up even merit is hard to get it, but if know the trick, it will not hard again.

Believe me, it will happen again in the future. we know, scammers are still scammers even if dressed as angel.

[Despairo]

I can't guess where that exact money run, but still this is the money, because at that time: 12th November 2021, the bitcoin price is about $64K which means he got about $640. I believe at that time he was planning it to steal it. $600 is big money (for me) maybe the same for him, I can do anything with that money, I heard the Legendary account is matching that price, so indirectly he sold his legendary account without bothering to open stall.

Average of signature campaign payment for Hero/Legendary rank is $70-$100, which mean he need to be active in this forum for 10 weeks or 2 months and half to get that's money. I check your signature campaign and you can earn $60/week, do you think you want to sell your account for $640 while you have potentially to earn more after 3 months?

If SiNeReiNZzz want to leave this forum completely, he can ask for more loan and sold his account without let anyone know, it doesn't make sense he just want to get $640.

the problem here is very easy to rank up, the scammer who stolen money will back here as a newbie and rank up easily because know trick how to rank up even merit is hard to get it, but if know the trick, it will not hard again.

Really? if rank up and getting merit is very easy why your merit doesn't exceed your activity?

Currently you have 420 activity, next 10 weeks you activity already met the requirement to rank up Hero rank, can you prove me you will earn 239 Merit for the next 10 weeks?

Believe me, it will happen again in the future. we know, scammers are still scammers even if dressed as angel.

Scammers wouldn't stop, when they see a chance they will do it.

It's started from a user who trade for small amount or scam buster to get positive feedback to scam huge amount money in the future.

[Timelord2067]

I vaguely recall SiNeReiNZzz had a twitter account - can anyone recall what it is, or, other social media profiles?

[Jawhead999]

I vaguely recall SiNeReiNZzz had a twitter account - can anyone recall what it is, or, other social media profiles?

This is his social media accounts, I'm not sure how useful it's because his social media account also inactive too. There's a user already contact him via telegram and haven't get any reply. I'm not sure does the @OP will taking serious in this case, but if you think you want to dox his identity and gather more information, he high likely already share his location to Roobet since he's active to gambler on Roobet and Roobet is a KYC casino.

1. SiNeReiNZzz's twiiter account
2. SiNeReiNZzz's youtube account

[_BlackStar]

I can't guess where that exact money run, but still this is the money, because at that time: 12th November 2021, the bitcoin price is about $64K which means he got about $640. I believe at that time he was planning it to steal it. $600 is big money (for me) maybe the same for him, I can do anything with that money, I heard the Legendary account is matching that price, so indirectly he sold his legendary account without bothering to open stall.

I guess there's only very small possibility of what you think of SiNeReiNZzz. Moreover, the number of loans taken by SiNeReiNZzz was not comparable to the reputation it had at that time. He could have made $400 per month if he was on campaign that paid him $100/week instead of planning sale of his account which involved such bad reputation like this. That seems far-fetched, and I don't think it makes any sense to do so specifically for user like SiNeReiNZzz.

Even if you can, I think it will take time for your efforts to earn merit to rank up to Member, Full Member, Sr, Hero and Legendary. My speculations about SiNeReiNZzz are not wild like this.

[holydarkness]

This is his social media accounts, I'm not sure how useful it's because his social media account also inactive too. There's a user already contact him via telegram and haven't get any reply. I'm not sure does the @OP will taking serious in this case, but if you think you want to dox his identity and gather more information, he high likely already share his location to Roobet since he's active to gambler on Roobet and Roobet is a KYC casino.

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The one handling his telegram is most likely deliberately ignored my message, like what's described above that they read my message through the screen notification and once learned the gist of my chat, they ignored them. Because just like Shasan's situation, when I first initiate the chat, their online activity was "recently", then went to "within a week", and earlier today --and as per when I typed this post-- is "recently" again, means they're at least was online today.

I think I'll leave the tag as well.

And in case our assumption is correct that something happened to the original SiNeReiNZzz account and his telegram is now handled by someone else, I would like to urge anyone reading this thread, or anyone in the future looking for a reference because they've been contacted by username @SiNeReiNZzz or any other username claiming they're him, to consider that the one reaching you is probably not the original reputable member of this forum, and his previous reputation, all the positive feedback, merit, and rank, is no longer valid and shouldn't be used to vouch for credibility of the telegram username.

[shasan]

12th November 2021, the bitcoin price is about $64K which means he got about $640. I believe at that time he was planning it to steal it. $600 is big money (for me) maybe the same for him

640$ is a big amount for me too. And many people in the world cant earn 640$ in a year. But the account of which we are talking about could earn more than 640$ within few weeks. For example if lowest campaign he can join then monthly income will be 200$ so s/he need only 13 weeks. ANd after the repayment s/he could earn a lot after the repayment of mine. Even if he can repay the loan then s/he will be able to earn a lot than this.

[Sarah Azhari]

Really? if rank up and getting merit is very easy why your merit doesn't exceed your activity?

Currently you have 420 activity, next 10 weeks you activity already met the requirement to rank up Hero rank, can you prove me you will earn 239 Merit for the next 10 weeks?

That is my just guess and possibility. maybe there is and maybe is not, but this must be considered so it doesn't keep repeating.

Even if you can, I think it will take time for your efforts to earn merit to rank up to Member, Full Member, Sr, Hero and Legendary. My speculations about SiNeReiNZzz are not wild like this.

when the job begins with a member, it's not hard to next rank. The lender must consider it because this is like a bubble which is about a time to explode.

12th November 2021, the bitcoin price is about $64K which means he got about $640. I believe at that time he was planning it to steal it. $600 is big money (for me) maybe the same for him

640$ is a big amount for me too. And many people in the world cant earn 640$ in a year. But the account of which we are talking about could earn more than 640$ within few weeks. For example if lowest campaign he can join then monthly income will be 200$ so s/he need only 13 weeks. ANd after the repayment s/he could earn a lot after the repayment of mine. Even if he can repay the loan then s/he will be able to earn a lot than this.

maybe my thinking is too negative, but if you can understand it, I'm sure you can't get trapped again in the future.

[holydarkness]

Even if you can, I think it will take time for your efforts to earn merit to rank up to Member, Full Member, Sr, Hero and Legendary. My speculations about SiNeReiNZzz are not wild like this.

when the job begins with a member, it's not hard to next rank. The lender must consider it because this is like a bubble which is about a time to explode.

12th November 2021, the bitcoin price is about $64K which means he got about $640. I believe at that time he was planning it to steal it. $600 is big money (for me) maybe the same for him

640$ is a big amount for me too. And many people in the world cant earn 640$ in a year. But the account of which we are talking about could earn more than 640$ within few weeks. For example if lowest campaign he can join then monthly income will be 200$ so s/he need only 13 weeks. ANd after the repayment s/he could earn a lot after the repayment of mine. Even if he can repay the loan then s/he will be able to earn a lot than this.

maybe my thinking is too negative, but if you can understand it, I'm sure you can't get trapped again in the future.

You need to factor in that the rank level ups requirements are double of the previous one. Arguably, ranking from member to full member is "easy" because it "only" needs 90 merits,  d from FM to SM, 150 more. But, from Senior to hero, it'll need an extra 250, and from hero to legendary, it required the whooping 500 extra merits.

If I may use your very own account as an analogy, you managed to accumulate 219 merits in the past 150 days --which, quite impressive, by the way-- it'll roughly need you a year and a half more from this point, assuming you managed to have the same pace of merit flow, 250ish every 150 days, to reach his level.

And that's merit alone, not the whole positive feedback he managed to achieve.

With such efforts, it'll be quite logical for people with his rank and status to find it counterproductive to "sell" his account for a "mere" $640. And even if he did planned for such scenario, it'll be much more logical to ask for as many lending from as many different people before he finally got tagged, since he's intending to abandon the account, anyway.

[shasan]

maybe my thinking is too negative, but if you can understand it, I'm sure you can't get trapped again in the future.

Till we do not know the exact reason all of us are right and all of us have a valid point. The person who has defaulted the loan could take more than 1500$ as the person was in legendary, there was positive trust and he was engaged in a signature campaign. So, all the positive aspects were on the account of the defaulter. But if the account was hacked/bought then the scenario could be different.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Before providing 2022 I was at a huge loss but day by day the ratio of defaulters decreased and try to recover the loss. Don't know when the loss will start increasing again and again. Still, I do not want to stop this service as many forum members actually need the loan. They can manage funds but that is time sensitive. For the right people, this forum is the easiest way to take a loan. Note: The main default is more than you can see on the scam accusation thread.

Good luck with the charity my man. It seems you have a good heart for forum members but these scammers are taking chances and trying to scam as much as they can. People are too ungrateful to the people who help them when they are in need.

But I doubt that is operating by the borrower.

Why do you think so?

I vaguely recall SiNeReiNZzz had a twitter account - can anyone recall what it is, or, other social media profiles?

Shasan was saying the telegram account is not operated by the SiNeReiNZzz, he is not on the forum (if I read correctly). It does not make sense to scam $6xx. Is he still with us or passed away. Sorry, I may sound harsh but we have lost a lot of members so far.

[Timelord2067]

Is he still with us or passed away. Sorry, I may sound harsh but we have lost a lot of members so far.

Not at all - I started a thread concerning the Grim Reality of the COVID pandemic.  If you know for certain the names of users who have died as a result of contracting Covid, then I invite you to add them to the Honour Roll.

[_BlackStar]

Even if you can, I think it will take time for your efforts to earn merit to rank up to Member, Full Member, Sr, Hero and Legendary. My speculations about SiNeReiNZzz are not wild like this.

when the job begins with a member, it's not hard to next rank. The lender must consider it because this is like a bubble which is about a time to explode.

I think the lender knows what the risks are, and I also don't think that things like this will discourage him from continuing to run his services. We never know whether someone out there is still healthy or gone, but for whatever your fantasy about SiNeReiNZzz I can't agree with it.

I remember one case in the past, when the borrower's reputation was damaged - then suddenly his friend announced that the borrower was dead and his friend would pay all the loans. The case was resolved smooth between the borrower and the lender. I think one of these is yours, so consider that.

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