Paris 2024 Olympic 🏊 Discussion & Predictions 🤺 Summer Games 🏋️ 🥅 🚴🏅

[rdluffy]

French Polynesia (Tahiti, Tuamotu and Marquesas islands) is an "overseas department" of France and therefore the French have the right to schedule some of the events there. But obviously it will give rise to a lot of logistical complexities. France is a colonial power, which still rules over bits and pieces of territories all over the world. And these territories are considered as part of France, and therefore if they don't give hosting rights, then the inhabitants of these regions will accuse the French Olympic authorities of discrimination. At least let us be relieved with the fact that they are not organizing any events in Adelie Land (French Antarctica).   

It's weird in my opinion hehehe, like the French border with Brazil in French Guiana.
I agree that Teahupo'o (Tahiti) have probably the best waves in all French territory, and it's really the top 2 waves in the world together with Pipeline Hawaii, it's a magical place, but it's extreme dangerous, this is one of the heaviest waves in the world. From 2006 until 2021 the women's championship was banned for safety reasons.

It's going to be weird that the surfers are so far away from Paris that it's going to seem like a totally different event than the Olympics, when you see most of the athletes together in one place.
And France has many great surfing spots, like Hossegor, Biarritz and Lacanau, which are much closer to Paris and would make more sense in my opinion, they have great waves but without the danger of Tahiti.

[inthelongrun]

I'm curious if chess a very old game that is played worldwide is going to be finally admitted to the Olympics. Esports is another type of sport that is growing rapidly and some of it and its events are bigger than many physical sports. Or maybe esports should organize its own event like the Olympics. That would be cool too.

Nonetheless, I always watch the Olympics ever since. I will be focusing mostly on boxing and basketball. Swimming and tennis are also interesting. I also hope that the Olympic committee one day allows no age limitations on football.

[rdluffy]

I also hope that the Olympic committee one day allows no age limitations on football.

The age limit was established in 1992, and it has several good reasons.
I didn't agree with it until a few years ago either, but now I do.

• With the age limit, the competition becomes different from the World Cup, and with chances for different teams to win or get better positions, like Nigeria in 1996, Cameroon in 2000, and Mexico in 2012.
• Countries are encouraged to invest in youth teams to strengthen soccer as a whole.
• Young players have the opportunity to participate more, rather than the same players in the major competitions.
• The soccer players who participate in other competitions such as the World Cup are used to competitions that make a huge amount of money, often more important than the sport itself, and this in my opinion does not exactly fit with the Olympics.

For these reasons above, I believe they made a good choice in limiting the age.
And yet they allow 3 players over 23, so the biggest soccer stars still have a chance to participate.

[Erumo]

The list of Olympic games is always weird.

Why there is triathlon and modern pentathlon? That looks like one and the same sport. I can accept triathlon, because it is running, swimming, cycling. Things that is common for most of people as "doing sports". But why make separate category as pentathlon and add fencing or pistol shooting? Is modern pentathlon a sport for those who suck at shooting, fencing and athletics as separate sport? Modern pentathlon athletes lack just a little to join national team aka failed at Olympic qualification. So not to waste time and effort, Olympics committee made made special discipline for them?

And breaking? There are 100+ dancing styles? Why not add all of them then? Jerking looks interesting. Google search shows even more interesting pictures. Why not add it to Olympic sports list? That will increase Olympic games viewers number.

[LTU_btc]

The age limit was established in 1992, and it has several good reasons.
I didn't agree with it until a few years ago either, but now I do.

• With the age limit, the competition becomes different from the World Cup, and with chances for different teams to win or get better positions, like Nigeria in 1996, Cameroon in 2000, and Mexico in 2012.
• Countries are encouraged to invest in youth teams to strengthen soccer as a whole.
• Young players have the opportunity to participate more, rather than the same players in the major competitions.
• The soccer players who participate in other competitions such as the World Cup are used to competitions that make a huge amount of money, often more important than the sport itself, and this in my opinion does not exactly fit with the Olympics.

For these reasons above, I believe they made a good choice in limiting the age.
And yet they allow 3 players over 23, so the biggest soccer stars still have a chance to participate.

I don't agree with you. In most sports competitions Olympic Gold medal is biggest achievement that you can get. In football, Olympics probably is just a bit more important than FIFA U-20 World championship. Without biggest stars interest in Olympic football tournament is low and probably not many can name winners of few last Olympics.
Look at basketball, NBA players have huge contracts, but they play in Olympics without getting paid for. Or best tennis players always participate in Olympics without getting rankinf points for.
In Winter Games hockey have similar problem like football. NHL don't want to release their players and without it tournament lose lot of prestige.

[KennyR]

Now every country players will be pushing hard to make their progress in the Olympics. Four new games added will have additional focus, because winning a new game for the first time becomes big history. Around 17 days of games with huge number of participants from all around the world makes the event enjoyable. Already Paris is much known for its beauty and now the Olympic games will make it more beautiful.

[Sithara007]

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And France has many great surfing spots, like Hossegor, Biarritz and Lacanau, which are much closer to Paris and would make more sense in my opinion, they have great waves but without the danger of Tahiti.

The competitions can be staged in mainland France. But then the outlying territories will accuse the Comité National Olympique et Sportif Français (CNOSF) of discriminating against regions that are populated mostly by ethnic minorities. Remmeber the fact that these territories (including French Polynesia) are considered as an integral part of the Republic of France (unlike the case with United Kingdom, where colonies such as Cayman Islands and Bermuda are treated as territories with their own government, but under the crown).

[inthelongrun]

The age limit was established in 1992, and it has several good reasons.
I didn't agree with it until a few years ago either, but now I do.

• With the age limit, the competition becomes different from the World Cup, and with chances for different teams to win or get better positions, like Nigeria in 1996, Cameroon in 2000, and Mexico in 2012.
• Countries are encouraged to invest in youth teams to strengthen soccer as a whole.
• Young players have the opportunity to participate more, rather than the same players in the major competitions.
• The soccer players who participate in other competitions such as the World Cup are used to competitions that make a huge amount of money, often more important than the sport itself, and this in my opinion does not exactly fit with the Olympics.

For these reasons above, I believe they made a good choice in limiting the age.
And yet they allow 3 players over 23, so the biggest soccer stars still have a chance to participate.

I don't agree with you. In most sports competitions Olympic Gold medal is biggest achievement that you can get. In football, Olympics probably is just a bit more important than FIFA U-20 World championship. Without biggest stars interest in Olympic football tournament is low and probably not many can name winners of few last Olympics.
Look at basketball, NBA players have huge contracts, but they play in Olympics without getting paid for. Or best tennis players always participate in Olympics without getting rankinf points for.
In Winter Games hockey have similar problem like football. NHL don't want to release their players and without it tournament lose lot of prestige.

We all the different views. But I am also not in favor of any limitations to the Olympics. Olympic boxing, for instance, does not allow professionals from competing so it was all amaterus but lately, it started to allow anyone to compete. The Olympics is supposed to be an event where the best of the best from different sports gather together. Football's FIFA World Cup though is a close rival to the Olympics as both are competing to be called the biggest sporting event. There might be something political behind it.

[masulum]

For the football, I personally will not give any hope for Indonesia national team participation maybe they are failed in qualification again. However, if Indonesia can qualify, this will be a good achievement for coach Sin Tae Young. My greatest hope is Badminton. Hopefully Indonesia still has the talent of players to bring gold in Badminton, even i can dream Indonesia can win all categories in this sport. 

[LFC_Bitcoin]

It is the Olympics already in summer 2024, that has come round fast. I mostly enjoy watching the athletics but I usually find myself bored, watching some really obscure sports. I have no doubt that Paris will put on a real festival of sport.

[rdluffy]

I don't agree with you. In most sports competitions Olympic Gold medal is biggest achievement that you can get. In football, Olympics probably is just a bit more important than FIFA U-20 World championship. Without biggest stars interest in Olympic football tournament is low and probably not many can name winners of few last Olympics.
Look at basketball, NBA players have huge contracts, but they play in Olympics without getting paid for. Or best tennis players always participate in Olympics without getting rankinf points for.
In Winter Games hockey have similar problem like football. NHL don't want to release their players and without it tournament lose lot of prestige.

But if they allowed any age, what would be the difference to other competitions like the World Cup?
And what would be a great incentive for the national teams to also invest in their youth teams and develop soccer in their countries?
I still believe that soccer in the Olympics is better this way because it is a great differential, you will see players that will possibly be playing in their national teams in a few years.

Another thing I haven't commented on, but five-a-side soccer would be a very nice category to include in the Olympics.


By the way, they released the pictograms of 2024 Olympics, take a look guys:


Source: https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1133448/paris-2024-pictograms-unveiled

You can see better in high definition here: https://www.paris2024.org/en/pictograms/

What do you think?

[acroman08]

By the way, they released the pictograms of 2024 Olympics, take a look guys:

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You can see better in high definition here: https://www.paris2024.org/en/pictograms/

What do you think?

overall it looks fine. it's probably just me but I have to say that some of the pictograms are hard to distinguish on what sport they symbolize. I am probably just used to the old pictogram designs they usually use. they did say on the website that they "reinvented" the concept of the Olympic and Paralympic pictograms, so the design is pretty new(at least for me).

[LTU_btc]

But if they allowed any age, what would be the difference to other competitions like the World Cup?
And what would be a great incentive for the national teams to also invest in their youth teams and develop soccer in their countries?
I still believe that soccer in the Olympics is better this way because it is a great differential, you will see players that will possibly be playing in their national teams in a few years.

Another thing I haven't commented on, but five-a-side soccer would be a very nice category to include in the Olympics.

Without age limitation it would be become more prestigous tournament. In all other sports, winning World Cup or EURO is very important, but Olympic gold is biggest achievement that you can get. And I doubt that getting medal in Olympics is among main reasons why countries invest in football development. They do it to grow up players for clubs and national team.
5 on 5 football, never heard about it. There is already 3x3 basketball or Rugby 7 in Olympics, so, why not. Or it would be interesting to see futsal or beach soccer added

By the way, they released the pictograms of 2024 Olympics, take a look guys:

Source: https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1133448/paris-2024-pictograms-unveiled

You can see better in high definition here: https://www.paris2024.org/en/pictograms/

What do you think?

It looks very different from pictograms that we had in previous Olympics. I agree with post above that some don't look clear enough to see what sport it represent. I prefer more minimalistic style.

[Sithara007]

But if they allowed any age, what would be the difference to other competitions like the World Cup?
And what would be a great incentive for the national teams to also invest in their youth teams and develop soccer in their countries?
I still believe that soccer in the Olympics is better this way because it is a great differential, you will see players that will possibly be playing in their national teams in a few years.

Another thing I haven't commented on, but five-a-side soccer would be a very nice category to include in the Olympics.

I agree with the current age criteria. Olympic competitions are not intended to showoff the star power, but rather it needs to showcase the popularity of the sport and talent from all around the world. Given this, I would agree with the current criteria of U-23 players + 3 members of the senior side. In this way, the clubs also don't have much to worry about losing their players (I really don't know what is their problem in releasing the players for a couple of weeks, for a competition that occurs once every four years). And regarding 5-a-side soccer - strict no. We don't need these sham competitions in Olympics.

[Renampun]

For the football, I personally will not give any hope for Indonesia national team participation maybe they are failed in qualification again. However, if Indonesia can qualify, this will be a good achievement for coach Sin Tae Young. My greatest hope is Badminton. Hopefully Indonesia still has the talent of players to bring gold in Badminton, even i can dream Indonesia can win all categories in this sport. 

as an Indonesian citizen.. Indonesian football team, I also fully support them, and I hope that Mr Erick Thohir (candidate for chairman of PSSI) is elected and can improve the quality of Indonesian football before the Paris Olympics starts. Besides badminton, Indonesia has also won gold medals in archery - rowing - surfing - weightlifting. badminton team!! they are my biggest hope for a gold medal later.

It is the Olympics already in summer 2024, that has come round fast. I mostly enjoy watching the athletics but I usually find myself bored, watching some really obscure sports. I have no doubt that Paris will put on a real festival of sport.

if you feel bored watching athletics, there are many other sports that you can enjoy at the Paris Olympics later. I'm sure, the Paris Olympics will be very successful.

[YuginKadoya]

I used to watch Battle of The Year break dancing event videos and judging criteria was usually crowd reaction. Dancers performed various elements, but the crowd gave much noise when one of the dancer performs windmill. No matter how difficult the elements dancer showed (often they required a lot of strength, strong joints), when opposite dancer performs windmill, the crowd goes crazy. What looks cool, gets higher score. Such scoring system is bad for international challenges of Olympic games level. Such a score system is not objective.

Well, they could apply some implications for the crowd to judge the performance but with a certain percentage, because in some Criteria for judging a performer, there these Audience impact criteria that may lead the judges in making judging a bit immediately known to the public because of the Audience, the likeliness for some judges if they would not go with the Audience reaction they could have some issue about it, that is just the negative points for that kind of criteria but surely it could also lead to some not questioning the judge's decision, for me if they would include break dancing in the Olympics they surely need to learn how to handle this kind of event,

I agree with the current age criteria. Olympic competitions are not intended to showoff the star power, but rather it needs to showcase the popularity of the sport and talent from all around the world. Given this, I would agree with the current criteria of U-23 players + 3 members of the senior side. In this way, the clubs also don't have much to worry about losing their players (I really don't know what is their problem in releasing the players for a couple of weeks, for a competition that occurs once every four years). And regarding 5-a-side soccer - strict no. We don't need these sham competitions in Olympics.

Most likely they will not get well-known players, but in some cases, if that well-known is really good at something then they might put some legality to it, pretty much they didn't need star power in getting to this point and there could be a lot of issues involving known personality that might ruin the Olympics reputation,

For now, we still have plenty of time to discuss for me I could share some combat sports that involve in the Olympics, and what I think about the fight, but surely it is hard to predict if they could make a good quality Olympics we could base it on the recent ones they have but surely this is the new era and a lot have change,

[Merit.s]

I love Olympics games and during this period,these games will entertain you when you are less busy because,there are various games that are very interesting. I am a football fan and I also love surfing.

Breaking

This is going to be fun breaking,I guess break dance like Michael Jackson and the rest or am I lost here. I can't wait to watch next year Olympics.

[Sithara007]

Most likely they will not get well-known players, but in some cases, if that well-known is really good at something then they might put some legality to it, pretty much they didn't need star power in getting to this point and there could be a lot of issues involving known personality that might ruin the Olympics reputation

Well.. let the players take the decision. For some players, winning an Olympic medal for their country would be one of the highest priorities. But for some others, playing for the club is more important. The current eligibility criteria (U-23 plus 3 senior) is well suited here, since it gives enough room for those senior players who have an Olympic ambition. And this criteria has resulted in some of the African countries winning the gold medal. Nigeria won the gold in 1996 and Cameroon in 2000. So in general, the changed eligibility criteria have been beneficial for the globalization of football.

[TopTort777]

I don't agree with you. In most sports competitions Olympic Gold medal is biggest achievement that you can get. In football, Olympics probably is just a bit more important than FIFA U-20 World championship. Without biggest stars interest in Olympic football tournament is low and probably not many can name winners of few last Olympics.
Look at basketball, NBA players have huge contracts, but they play in Olympics without getting paid for. Or best tennis players always participate in Olympics without getting rankinf points for.
In Winter Games hockey have similar problem like football. NHL don't want to release their players and without it tournament lose lot of prestige.

But wasnt it that all the time NHL play-off happens during Winter Olympic games-hockey tournament ? If the team is kicked from playoff, NHL players usually fly to help their national teams. If the NHL team still plays, then why should they release their employees when they have work to do? Also I know, that if your team isnt in playoff anymore, you can just fly to play during Olympic games, you have to be announced to the team. Before Olympic games, coaches make team roasters. They create a team from everyone who is available, plus add some super start from NHL with a hope they will be free. It is hard to form a players combo, if part of the players are on the ice, others are in NHL (regular season or playoff), and train them. Imho a combination of 2-3 average players, who trained together for some time is stronger than individual from NHL, who only "might join" team during Olympics.

[Sithara007]

But wasnt it that all the time NHL play-off happens during Winter Olympic games-hockey tournament ? If the team is kicked from playoff, NHL players usually fly to help their national teams. If the NHL team still plays, then why should they release their employees when they have work to do? Also I know, that if your team isnt in playoff anymore, you can just fly to play during Olympic games, you have to be announced to the team. Before Olympic games, coaches make team roasters. They create a team from everyone who is available, plus add some super start from NHL with a hope they will be free. It is hard to form a players combo, if part of the players are on the ice, others are in NHL (regular season or playoff), and train them. Imho a combination of 2-3 average players, who trained together for some time is stronger than individual from NHL, who only "might join" team during Olympics.

During the recently concluded FIFA World Cup at Qatar also we faced similar issues. Some of the clubs were saying that they will not release the players. They had a point though, as the FIFA World Cup this time had slightly shifted from the normal date, to take in to account the extreme climatic conditions at Qatar. So there was an overlap with the European leagues. But then they need to remind the fact that world cup is an event that occurs only once every 4 years. And it lasts for less than a month, compared to the leagues that stretch for many months.